Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
There are some more dots to connect. http://www.livescience.com/29111-speed-of-light-not-constant.html Speed of Light May Not Be Constant, Physicists Say "The speed of light is constant, or so textbooks say. But some scientists are exploring the possibility that this cosmic speed limit changes, a consequence of the nature of the vacuum of space." On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 2:33 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > Dear Francis X, > > I am coming around to your way of thinking. > > Regarding... > > “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of > the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s > true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ > > The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of > positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low > energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic > interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce > longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the > "false" vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to > keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum > energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum > energy. > > The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough > to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s > momentum laws. > > > Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR > reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into > positive and negative zones. > > This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value > in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of > forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from > one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of > virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle > creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon > virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s > interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average > maximum speed of light through the vacuum. > > In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. > This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per > unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the > speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. > Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. > > LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative > zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone > suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. > > LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. > This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive > atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression > in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of > negative vacuum energy. > > If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle > production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to > the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. > > In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was > reduced to 6 microseconds. > > That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR > are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of > negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in > the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of > matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton > soliton > > I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time > acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure > where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma > production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then > the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the > EmDrive and in LENR. > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X < > francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > >> We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough >> about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims >> and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed >> inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood >> that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to >> directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a >> buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we >> won't get a bubble from microw
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Dear Francis X, I am coming around to your way of thinking. Regarding... “when lasers were fired through the EmDrive’s resonance chamber, some of the beams appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. If that’s true, it would mean that the EmDrive is producing a warp field or bubble. “ The resonant shape of the microwave EmDrive cavity produces a pattern of positive and negative vacuum energy that corresponds to the high and low energy pattern of microwave radiation generated by electromagnetic interference. The zone of increased positive vacuum energy may produce longer lived virtual particles whose lifetime is proportional to the "false" vacuum value characterize by the zone of EMF excited vacuum. But to keep energy conservation of the vacuum constant, a positive zone of vacuum energy must also correspond with and be offset by a negative zone of vacuum energy. The lifetimes of these longer lived virtual particles may be long enough to provide a reaction platform that meets the requirements of Newton’s momentum laws. Furthermore, there could be a connection between the EmDrive and the LENR reaction. That connection could be the partitioning of the vacuum into positive and negative zones. This might mean that the speed of light increases beyond its nominal value in a zone of negative vacuum energy. In a homonginous vacuum, the speed of forward photon propagation is determined by how fast the photon goes from one virtual particle creation event to the next based on the density of virtual particles produced in the vacuum by the averge virtual particle creation rate. In a homogenous vacuum, If the average rate of photon virtual particle interaction is steady, This steady rate of light’s interatcion with the particles of the vacuum will produce a steady average maximum speed of light through the vacuum. In a zone of negative vacuum energy, less virtual particles are produced. This reduces the density of virtual particles encountered by the photon per unit time. Less friction from the vacuum results, thereby increaseing the speed of light through the zone of negitive vacuum energy. Time speeds up when the speed of light in increased. LENR seems to separate the vacuum into a positive zone and a negative zone. The positive zone produces the fusion reaction, and the negative zone suppresses the gamma and stabizes the radioactive results of the fusion. LENR will dramatically increase the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. This might be caused by the entanglement of the nucleus of the radioactive atom with the zone of negitive vacuum energy. The speed of time progression in the radio active atom might be same as the speed of time in the zone of negative vacuum energy. If this reaction is true, the rate of reduction of virtual particle production in the zone of negative vacuum energy might be proportional to the speed up of the rate of radioactive decay produced by LENR. In one experiment, a radioactive isotope with a half-life of 69 years was reduced to 6 microseconds. That is 15 orders of magnitude reduction. Most halflife reductions in LENR are instantaneous. Time could be moving very rapidly in the zone of negative vacuum energy. There looks to be a way to share that increase in the speedup of the rate of time with matter through the entanglement of matter with the zone of negative vacuum...AKA the surface plasmon-polariton soliton I segest this experiment with the EmDrive to verify this theory of time acceleration. Place a gamma emmiting isotope inside an EmDrive enclosure where the microwave interference is descriptive. If the rate of gamma production is reduced and/or the half-life of the isotope is reduced then the effects of negative vacuum energy on time will be verified both in the EmDrive and in LENR. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Roarty, Francis X < francis.x.roa...@lmco.com> wrote: > We don't know enough to answer the question because we don't know enough > about the origin of the force. Even if it is relativistic as Shawyer claims > and the spatial area occupied by the device modifies the encompassed > inertial frames that breach the isotropy there remains a strong likelihood > that an equal and opposite frame is created and the device is only able to > directionalize gravity to produce thrust..NOT able to accumulate a > buoyancy. IMHO his use of the term thrust is probably correct and that we > won't get a bubble from microwaves in a shaped cavity. > Fran > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 9:50 PM > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com > Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above > the Theoretical Limit > > Hovering does not violate Newton's laws IMHO. Energy and momentum are > conserved. > > Bob Cook > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the > Theoretical Limit > > > In
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
Here is an interesting thought, if this did work to produce thrust that did not act against the earth, then the earth would be moved in the direction of the device due to attraction to the device (flying car) equal to the weight of the object (it is attracted to the whole mass of the earth, and the whole mass of the earth is attracted to it). Since more of these flying vehicles would end up existing in the Northern hemisphere, especially the US the earth would be set off course. Not sure by how much but over time it would become significant, megatons of force applied to one side of the earth for long enough would end up being disastrous I am sure. On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 4:06 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > > > > > Personally, I think it is a bogus premise to assume that Newton’s laws are > not being violated when this EM device is speculated to be “hovering” a few > feet above the surface of Earth. As Dave rightly points out if the > “hovering” device were to be situated outside the influence of Earth’s > gravity field the contraption would most certainly be caught in the act of > accelerating – which presumably then means it’s violating Newton’s laws. My > point is that if the EM device is presumably breaking Newton’s laws outside > of Earth’s gravity field I don’t believe we can conveniently insert an > exception to the rule and suddenly proclaim that within Earth’s gravity > field the same EM device isn’t breaking those same laws. That makes > absolutely no logical sense to me. It strikes me as a fudge factor. > > > > Nature, specifically our perception and quaint understanding of gravity > fields, appears to be playing a very subtle trick on us. It’s most likely > due our own ignorance hampering a better understanding of Newton’s laws > being played out here, specifically the phenomenon we call gravity. > > > > Regarding gravity, our human bi-pedal brains have a very difficult time > trying to grasp and understand the consequences of the simple but > paradoxical equation “1/r^2”. IMHO, it is generally not perceived (or for > that matter accepted) that as we stand on the surface of Earth that we are > in a constant state acceleration. The point being: If we are accelerating > why aren't we moving? However, according to Einstein: gravity and > acceleration are precisely the same phenomenon being played out in > different spatial fields. Our human perception is used to perceiving the > phenomenon of acceleration as OBSERVING an object move, or more technically > speaking the velocity of the object observed in a constant state of > changing. We observe changes in velocity (acceleration) in *flat* spatial > fields. But if you start bending (or subsequently concentrate) those > spatial fields, such as what “1/r^2” does when approaching a large mass > like Earth, it is possible to play tricks on our human perception. For > example we perceive (and subsequently believe) stationary objects are at > rest on the surface of earth, and that they have weight. It is ludicrous > for our bi-pedal brains to perceive such stationary objects possessed with > "weight" as accelerating, or moving. But according to Einstein such objects > are accelerating. Therefore they are also in a constant state changing > their velocity. That means they are moving! But we don't perceive them as > moving! It's the curvature of the spatial field that results in such > objects not appear to be moving (form our perception) which our bi-pedal > brains are having a horrible time with. > > > > We are caught in a nasty paradox for which we have been trying to resolve > with little success for centuries. For example, one of the most profound > paradoxes we try not to think too much about is that if it takes a constant > expenditure of energy (fuel) to keep a helicopter hovering 10 feet above > the surface of earth – well then, where’s the energy (fuel) coming from > that keeps gravity turned constantly “on” and us firmly planted on the > surface of Earth? > > > > Obviously, we are missing something important here. ;-) Personally, I > suspect one the subtle points we may have been glossing over is our > ignorance of the consequences of manipulating spatial fields. If we can > learn how to manipulate them out of the normal flat spatial planes that we > typically exist in, and do so without having to consume gigawatts of > energy, I think we would be in for a big surprise. I can't say what's has > been happing under wraps in black ops for decades, but as far as we are > concerned we don’t yet know how to bend or concentrate 3D SPACE on the > human scale in the same manner that large bodies of mass have been bending > spatial fields on the planetary scale since the beginning of time. But if > we could learn how to do it, it will likely reap many untold benefits. > Anti-gravity for example. Alas, this is a tough one. For millions of years > our bi-pedal brains have had a difficult time wrapping around t
Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I > must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. > Here is the latest headline from the New York Times: > > North Korea Said to Execute a Top Official, With an Antiaircraft Gun This tidbit of news was recently called into doubt: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/14/south-korea-rows-back-over-north-korea-anti-aircraft-gun-execution-claim Knowing what other kinds of purges have taken place, I suppose this is only a question about a point of fact, and not one of whether North Korea would resort to something like this. Eric
Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: Personally, I think it is a bogus premise to assume that Newton’s laws are > not being violated when this EM device is speculated to be “hovering” a few > feet above the surface of Earth. As Dave rightly points out if the > “hovering” device were to be situated outside the influence of Earth’s > gravity field the contraption would most certainly be caught in the act of > accelerating – which presumably then means it’s violating Newton’s laws. When contemplating antigravity thought experiments, one is reminded that a device that feels the earth's gravitational pull is part of a system of two objects, which comprises the earth and the device. The two orbit around their common center of mass, which is, effectively speaking, the same as the earth's center of mass. A mechanism able to counter this equal gravitational attraction between the two objects would have the effect of separating the two from one another a little in their common orbit. I suppose that could either be accomplished by altering the fabric of spacetime for the two objects (and presumably them alone) so that spacetime is less curved; or, alternatively, by increasing the rate at which they orbit one another around their common center of mass. Regarding gravity, our human bi-pedal brains have a very difficult time > trying to grasp and understand the consequences of the simple but > paradoxical equation “1/r^2”. IMHO, it is generally not perceived (or for > that matter accepted) that as we stand on the surface of Earth that we are > in a constant state acceleration. The point being: If we are accelerating > why aren't we moving? However, according to Einstein: gravity and > acceleration are precisely the same phenomenon being played out in > different spatial fields. You have raised a very interesting question here. Eric
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Giovanni, I think you said it better than I could. I say it is a little bit of narcissism if you want to see the negative side. However, why would it be true that the bad people would be the one surviving , Jed? I am sure you are wrong and making Huizenga an example smacks of poor judgement. He might have had a different opinion. He might have been wrong. His ability to make life good for him is what it is all about in this question. No, it is not as noble as you say Jed. Much more me, myself and I. Anybody reading this wants to say; "I am below the level of contribution so let me die". No, nobody wants to say so, I find that good. I think if there is a way of making life interesting and be productive, the date on the birth certificate does not matter. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > And if people minds are kept young and vibrant there is no need for > physical death to bring change and progress. > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Giovanni Santostasi < > gsantost...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Jed, >> Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like >> a spell. >> People glorify and justify death as a good thing. >> It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it >> is by old age. >> We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive >> impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for >> indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can >> imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In >> particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that >> could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell >> wrote: >> >>> God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old >>> people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end >>> to progress -- which happens "funeral by funeral." >>> >>> - Jed >>> >>> >> >
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
And if people minds are kept young and vibrant there is no need for physical death to bring change and progress. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > Jed, > Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a > spell. > People glorify and justify death as a good thing. > It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it > is by old age. > We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive > impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for > indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can > imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In > particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that > could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. > > > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old >> people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end >> to progress -- which happens "funeral by funeral." >> >> - Jed >> >> >
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Giovanni Santostasi wrote: > We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In > particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that > could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. > Yeah? What makes you think the creative productive people would be preserved? No way! It would be the wealthy and brutal people. If we had this in the 20th century, Stalin would still be in charge of Russia. J. Gould and the other robber barons would still be running Wall Street. The Kim family would run North Korea forever. In cold fusion, opponents such as Huizenga would make policy for the next 500 years, and they would never allow research. Young people would never be able to contribute, or even grow up. Even James Watt became an impediment to progress at the end of his life. Death leads to turnover. It gives young people with fresh perspectives a chance. Most great science is done by young people. If the old scientists never get out the way, new ideas will never be published. I agree with Max Planck. Death is sad for the individual, but it is a blessing to society, and it is essential. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People glorify and justify death as a good thing. It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it is by old age. We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive impaired and not productive but keeping people young and healthy for indefinite life spans. This is the most noble and worthwhile goal one can imagine. We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 7:07 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old > people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end > to progress -- which happens "funeral by funeral." > > - Jed > >
[Vo]:Quasar quartet puzzles scientists - Halton Arp rises from the Grave!
This is a classic example of Halton Arp's concept of how galaxy clusters form - note all 4 are in a strait line - no mention of location of this chain of Quasars - afraid someone might associate it with a closer galaxy! http://www.mpg.de/9229786/quasar-quartet?filter_order=L&research_topic= http://www.haltonarp.com/articles/origins_of_quasars_and_galaxy_clusters Two of the best books by Arp on this subject: Seeing Red - Redshifts, Cosmology and Academic Science Catalogue of Discordant Redshift Associations
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships
David L. Babcock wrote: You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals > required. I suppose a star ship would have to be made of stronger materials than steel. Something more like what you make a space elevator out of. > Confounding that it's not just peak oil we're at, it's peak nearly > everything. > By the time we make star ships, we will already have colonized the solar system. We will have all of the steel, carbon and other materials on all planets and asteroids, which is a far larger mass of material than we have available on earth. However, as I said, I think it would be more convenient to collect a large fraction of the sun's light and convert it back from energy into mass. Assuming this can be done. The sun loses 4 million tons per second in mass-energy conversion. If we collect and convert it back into whatever elements we need, that is enough to build any number of star ships in a short time. The largest cruise ships today are 100,000 tons and they carry 5,000 people. So we could launch 40 cruise ships per second, enough to carry 200,000 people crammed together in 21st century quarters. Say, we launch one ship per second, of 4 million tons, and it carries only 10,000 people in luxury. That would be 700,000 seconds to accommodate the entire present world population. That's 194 hours, or 8 days. > Jed would argue, I think, that enough energy combined with engineering and > plant materials -renewables- will make feasible cheap replacements for > almost any sort of spacecraft components. Not renewable. Extra-terrestrial. > I argue that the tonnage does you in. Visualize an ocean liner for every > small town, a fleet of them for every city. > Visualize 40 ocean liners per second and you will have a more realistic notion of what people will be capable of making -- a few thousand years from now. Not that people will construct such things, of course. Robots will. Trillions and trillions of robots. Most of them no larger than an insect, I suppose. Do not ask where they will come from. That is like asking where bacteria come from. From other bacteria! They are self reproducing. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships
You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals required. Confounding that it's not just peak oil we're at, it's peak nearly everything. Jed would argue, I think, that enough energy combined with engineering and plant materials -renewables- will make feasible cheap replacements for almost any sort of spacecraft components. I argue that the tonnage does you in. Visualize an ocean liner for every small town, a fleet of them for every city. One -big- fleet making round trips till the job is done? Time. Unless FTL. This is Vo, but... Ol' Bab On 5/14/2015 1:03 PM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote: The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century. :) Cheap energy makes everything cheap. Craig --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
[Vo]:3D metal printing
3D metal printing is coming along nicely. A 3D-printed mini jet engine that performs at 33,000 RPM http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-3d-printed-mini-jet-engine-that-performs-at-33000-rpm I like the idea of a micro turbine gen set for the Hot Cat better than the seemingly more popular Stirling engine. There are quite a range of these in commercial use now. It seems to me relatively simple to replace the natural gas heating by Hot Cats. I thought this was neat example of a very small one. (400 W) https://youtu.be/Al8elCF816g
Re: [Vo]:news for May 14, 2015
My opinion regarding this statement... “4. Norman D. Cook, Andrea Rossi, «On the Nuclear Mechanisms Underlying the Heat Production by the E-Cat», http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1504/1504.01261.pdf I confess I like how this author thinks!” Analysis of the experimental evidence from Lagano contradictes this reaction mechanism. A more appropriate Analysis goes as follows... The complete conversion of a 10 nm diameter nickel particle might provide supporting evidence that protons find their way into the center of these massive nickel particles by quantum teleportation supported by the entanglement of protons in the hydrogen gas that riddle outside the nickel particle and the atoms of nickel inside the particle. Yes, Teleportation...like in star trek. A proton located in the hydrogen gas envelope does not need to find its way through large amounts of nickel by bumping and grinding their way through all that nickel. These protons just appear like magic inside the micro particle. This conclusion might seem ridiculous on it face but this conclusion is fully supported by the experimental evidence from Lagano. If the protons or in fact any subatomic particle did physically penetrate the nickel particle, we would expect that the outer layers of the particle would experience more nuclear reactions than the center of the particle. This penetration type of reaction would produce a layered ash profile. The outmost surface of the particle should have some copper and/or zinc content, and the inside should still have some untouched lower Z isotopes of nickel...like Ni58. But NO, the particle is pure Ni62, completely homogeneous Ni62, utterly pure Ni62. It must be that the protons that make up the gas envelope see no material resistance to the penetration of the nickel. The entangled protons mated with each nickel atom move through the nickel particle via the 5th dimension in which entanglement works directly through the nickel bulk to its entangled nickel mate into the center of the micro particle or to its dedicate nanowire edge with equal probability. This looks like proton teleportation to me. And even more perplexing, the delicate nickel nanowire surface covering of the miro particle is pure NI62. This delicate surface nano sized feature has suffered no subatomic particle impact damage what so ever. This ash looks the same as the fuel...physically unchanged but isotopically different. No neutrons were detected so the active subatomic particle supporting the Ni58 to Ni63 transmutation must be protons from the gas outside the particle. These protons change themselves into neutron after they enter the Ni58 nucleus. Yes, this is impossible to believe, If it weren't for logic and the results of Lagano experiment, what other answer could there be? Norman D. Cook abd Andrea Rossi are inventing theory that has no experimental foundation from Lagano data. How can you admire such a misrepresentation of reality? On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Dear Readers, > > Things happen, I comment mainly if/when I know and understand them > > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-newsnot-earth-wide-as-yesterday.html > > > It happens, > > Peter > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Death awareness is different from survival instinct. It is death awareness that allows we humans to make value judgements like the one you made about the structure of scientific revolutions, and act on those values. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > James Bowery wrote: > > The reason people are hysterical about death . . . >> > > . . . is the same reason all animals are. It is the instinct of self > preservation. Even cockroaches are terrified of death. If they were not, > predators would have hunted them to extinction eons ago. > > - Jed > >
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote: > The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. > Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of > our billions. Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century. :) Cheap energy makes everything cheap. Craig
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Ol' Bab On 5/14/2015 7:21 AM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 07:07 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. [...] You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Craig --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
James Bowery wrote: The reason people are hysterical about death . . . > . . . is the same reason all animals are. It is the instinct of self preservation. Even cockroaches are terrified of death. If they were not, predators would have hunted them to extinction eons ago. - Jed
[Vo]:news for May 14, 2015
Dear Readers, Things happen, I comment mainly if/when I know and understand them http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-newsnot-earth-wide-as-yesterday.html It happens, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
I looked up dysgenic. Well, maybe I did not get it. I think Jed is correct. I think the problem is that I do not think Jed's analysis includes me.:) All others and the theory is perfect. No, if we need a more sophisticated word than selfishness let us try narcissism. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648 “Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 8:15 AM, James Bowery wrote: > The reason people are hysterical about death, including religious from the > Abrahamic to Transhumanism, is because civilization is dysgenic and in a > dysgenic society every death is a loss of Creation. > > On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell > wrote: > >> Craig Haynie wrote: >> >>> >>> You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's >>> plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to >>> live forever. >>> >> >> Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, "The >> Last Question": >> >> http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html >> >> Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having >> them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural >> districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is >> depressing, let me tell you! >> >> The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially >> people in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that >> progress in science occurs "funeral by funeral." >> >> A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and >> making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, >> and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. >> >> >> We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death >> is as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. >> >> It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer >> and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, >> but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders >> should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and >> people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began >> building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam >> engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could >> not have made things like steam locomotives. >> >> - Jed >> >> >
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The reason people are hysterical about death, including religious from the Abrahamic to Transhumanism, is because civilization is dysgenic and in a dysgenic society every death is a loss of Creation. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > Craig Haynie wrote: > >> >> You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's >> plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to >> live forever. >> > > Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, "The > Last Question": > > http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html > > Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having > them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural > districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is > depressing, let me tell you! > > The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially people > in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that progress > in science occurs "funeral by funeral." > > A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and > making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, > and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. > > > We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death is > as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. > > It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer > and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, > but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders > should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and > people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began > building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam > engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could > not have made things like steam locomotives. > > - Jed > >
[Vo]:STEORN news: THE IRISH TIMES - Self-charging battery causes a stir in Dublin pub test
Enjoy: http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/self-charging-battery-causes-a -stir-in-dublin-pub-test-1.2211622 http://tinyurl.com/kcvvcqa Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
Craig Haynie wrote: > > You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's > plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to > live forever. > Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, "The Last Question": http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html Besides, old people are not likely to travel so we we would end up having them clutter up the earth, like the old people who are left in rural districts in Japan after the young people moved to the big cities. That is depressing, let me tell you! The older I get, the less patience I have for old farts. Especially people in science such as Huizenga and Park. I agree with Max Planck that progress in science occurs "funeral by funeral." A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it. We need to be rid of old people, to give young people their turn. Death is as essential to social evolution as it is to biological evolution. It is essential to technology as well. James Watt was a gifted engineer and he made some of the greatest contributions to technology in history, but when he got old he held up progress. He insisted that steam cylinders should be kept at low pressure for safety. He had great authority and people stuck to his recommendations. After he died, Young Turks began building high pressure cylinders, which reduced the weight of steam engines, and improved the power to weight ratio. Without that, they could not have made things like steam locomotives. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
The Eschimoo style retirement system is a partial solution. I have confronted it for almost 16 years. Peter On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson < orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: > It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested > with a highe percentage of seniors who are older than me. > > > > I guess Australia is no longer on the table for the disposal of riff-raff. > > > > Regards, > > Steven Vincent Johnson > > svjart.orionworks.com > > zazzle.com/orionworks > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested with a highe percentage of seniors who are older than me. I guess Australia is no longer on the table for the disposal of riff-raff. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 07:07 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: > God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old > people cluttering up society. [...] You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Craig
Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?
God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens "funeral by funeral." - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21
I can ask Mike what will he tell there but usually he writes his speeches in the last minute to be inspired and up-to-date. So has he done t ICCF-19 too were he made a very good compromise between the old (PdD) and the new, LENR+ You can remark that McKubre tries to be uptodate with the new trend despite being one of the champions of the FP Cell a great electrochemist. In direct contrast with Ed Storms, for example. My best greetings to you- see you at the today's demo. Peter On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:13 AM, Alain Sepeda wrote: > thanks, I integrated those new data > > 2015-05-13 18:59 GMT+02:00 Peter Gluck : > >> See please Ego Out of today. >> We can ask Mike about details. >> >> Peter >> >> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Alain Sepeda >> wrote: >> >>> Pietro F and Pelgrim 108 found that there will be a presentation by >>> Michael McKubre on LENR at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21 >>> >>> http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/ssc/atc/colloquia.html >>> >>> http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/news/index.php/News/92-Lockheed-Martin-Palo-Alto-Colloquia-May-21-%E2%80%93-Low-Energy-Nuclear-Reactions-LENR-D/ >>> >>> does anyone have more information on that event ? >>> >>> It seems a video/audio broadcast... >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
