RE: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

From: Bob Higgins Ø Piantelli believes Rydberg matter to be part of his theory of how Ni-H works - wherein the surface grains each become a BEC – Bob - Piantelli seems to be asking for way too many miracles. No experiment has ever demonstrated bosonic hydrogen at even room

[Vo]:Re: redefining misinformation in LENR

Cooper pairs of H would be bosons and may form a condensate in an correctly sized nano Ni particle. Bob Cook From: Jones Beene Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:05 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR From: Bob Higgins Ø Piantelli believes

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Hi Bob, The calculation I was thinking of was this: p+7Li → 2*4He + Q (16.8 MeV) 16.8 MeV / ( 2 * 4He * ( 4 nucleons / 4He ) ) = 16.8 MeV / 8 nucleons = 2.1 MeV / nucleon The per-nucleon calculation just gives one a sense that the 4He are traveling pretty fast. I assume there would be

[Vo]:Re: Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

I think high energy alphas cause lots of lattice damage like happens in fission reactor fuel. Liquid fuel would not be structurally so damaged however. I would expect nano particles would be modified pretty quickly. Fission energy release is around 200 Mev, most of which goes into fission

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

A muon track could look like a proton track in a cloud chamber. How can you tell the difference? We can use a magnetic field to see which way the particle bends, either positive for the proton or negative for the muon. I don't think that Piantelli has proved the the particle he is seeing is a

[Vo]:Re: Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Eric-- What about 3 Li-6 going to 3 alphas and 1 D or 1 Li-7 and 2 Li-6 going to 3 alphas and 1 T. Maybe the higher binding energy of the D and/or the T would reduce the high per nucleon energy you are concerned about. Bob Cook From: Eric Walker Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2015 2:42 PM To:

Re: [Vo]:Re: Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Does anyone remember reading how Piantelli supports his contention that the particle coming out of his nickel bar in the cloud chamber is a proton? On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Mark Jurich wrote: > Axil Axil wrote: > > | A muon track could look like a proton track

Re: [Vo]:Sticky tape generates X-rays

In reply to Jack Cole's message of Mon, 07 Sep 2015 00:44:58 +: Hi, [snip] >http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081022/full/news.2008.1185.html > >Interesting that there is speculation that fusion is the cause given that >most researchers dismiss CF. Wouldn't it be ironic if fusion could be

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 6 Sep 2015 14:55:05 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Greenyer suggests that the "mouse" is a process that results from the >occasional transmutation of nickel by H- ions. In this process, some >reactions are thought to fail to occur and result instead in the ejection

Re: [Vo]:Sticky tape generates X-rays

They also glow in the dark. If you pull the tape, when your eyes are used to the dark, you will see that.

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

More... http://www2.chem.gu.se/~holmlid/ Ultra-dense deuterium was recently shown to be the first room-temperature superfluid, see Ref. 196 below. It also shows a Meissner effect at room temperature (Ref. 204) and is thus probably also superconductive at room temperature. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

I don't believe Dr. Piantelli proposes Rydberg states of hydrogen - he proposes BEC-like effects across a small crystallite on the surface of the Ni. Such BEC-like effects may not be a sustained manifestation, but perhaps only a transient one. For example, at some temperatures the grains may be

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 10:12 PM, wrote: >One thing I was wondering was whether there could be a reaction involving > >an accelerated 6Li into a 7Li and what the possible daughters might be. > ??? Sorry, I left out some details there. I was thinking of your post sometime

[Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Bob Greenyer has posted an interesting piece speculating what the "cat" and "mouse" are in Rossi's E-Cat: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/09/06/the-new-fire-mk1-bob-greenyer/ Greenyer suggests that the "mouse" is a process that results from the occasional transmutation of nickel by H- ions. In

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

In reply to Axil Axil's message of Sun, 6 Sep 2015 18:02:31 -0400: Hi, [snip] >A muon track could look like a proton track in a cloud chamber. How can you >tell the difference? > >We can use a magnetic field to see which way the particle bends, either >positive for the proton or negative for the

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sun, 6 Sep 2015 16:42:34 -0500: Hi, [snip] >Possibly from a neutron stripping reaction? Presumably that could be due >to deuterium being stripped of a neutron, resulting in a fast proton. But >that would not explain the peak at 62Ni in the Lugano results and

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Eri-- I did not follow your conclusion that there would be 2.1 Mev per nucleon (which is pretty fast) resulting from a 16.8 Mev decay of the short-lived Be-8 nucleus. Why do you say it is fast per nucleon? I think the binding energy given up as kinetic energy of the alphas by the Be-8

[Vo]:Sticky tape generates X-rays

http://www.nature.com/news/2008/081022/full/news.2008.1185.html Interesting that there is speculation that fusion is the cause given that most researchers dismiss CF. Wouldn't it be ironic if fusion could be triggered just by peeling off some tape? :) Jack Of particular note from the article:

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

This analysis is not consistent with the info that Rossi has supplied concerning the Cat an mouse throughout his comments. Search on cat and mouse though the Rossi comments and correlate. This is a lot of work, but if you want to understand the truth, work is required.. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

According to Lief Holmlid hydrogen Rydberg matter is a superconductor at room temperature, This includes the meissner effect. On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 5:05 PM, Jones Beene wrote: > *From:* Bob Higgins > > > > Ø Piantelli believes Rydberg matter to be part of his theory of

Re: [Vo]:Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 4:37 PM, wrote: This is obvious nonsense. A failed reaction doesn't produce energy, and > hence > would not produce an energetic proton. > I agree. It's one of the reasons I don't like Piantelli's explanation. > A more likely scenario is that a

[Vo]:Re: Bob Greenyer's thoughts on what the "cat" and "mouse" are

Axil Axil wrote: | A muon track could look like a proton track in a cloud chamber. | How can you tell the difference? One can tell the difference by observing the Track Density and Curvature in a known, Large Magnetic Field, especially near the end of the track. | We can use

RE: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

From: Axil Ø Ø … Aluminum monoxide can form rydberg matter just like potassium can because the valance electron configuration between the aluminum compound and the potassium is the same. It is fair to assume that in all of our discussions about “dense hydrogen” where the electron

[Vo]:inexact translation- when ,eventually, will LENR prevail?

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/09/sep-06-2015-quo-vadis-lenr.html The things are slowly accelerating- this a half-oxymoron. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

If the key to LENR activity is the configuration of valance electrons in a chemical compound, then a single ion of silicon oxide may be just as good as potassium or lithium as a LENR catalyst. The goal of LENR based chemistry might be to find what configuration of valance electrons work and how

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

http://www.news.vcu.edu/article/Protecting_Groups_Go_Rogue_in_Aluminum_Superatoms “This work offers new intuition on what criteria allow the formation of stable clusters, and how to induce these clusters into becoming effective catalysts,” said Khanna. Chemistry works at a higher level than the

Re: [Vo]:Investment fund adds Italian company to portfolio

On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:16 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: > > http://www.grbj.com/articles/83253-investment-fund-adds-italian-company-to-portfolio > > Investment fund adds Italian company to portfolio >From interview with E-Cat World:

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

Note: Most of the references for Rydberg matter and LENR are not referring to f/H or IRH - they are referring to large ensembles of atoms in a BEC that can behave in a single quantum state. Piantelli believes Rydberg matter to be part of his theory of how Ni-H works - wherein the surface grains

Re: [Vo]:redefining misinformation in LENR

http://www.gizmag.com/high-temperature-superconductor-aluminum/36317/ ow the USC team led by professor Vitaly Kresin has discovered hints of yet another family of superconductors which work at relatively high temperatures. Specifically, they found out that while single atoms of aluminum only turn