Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[mixent]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 23:58:02 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>The answer is simple
>
>q^2 --> rm. Charge square is proportional to rotating mass. In a proton 
>much more mass is needed to produce the same charge. Ergo adding an 
>electron can do nothing...
>
>J.W.
Given that both mass & charge of the proton are known, what radius do you
calculate?

Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Jonathan Berry]

The original unusual coil was thin magnet wire wound around another strand
of thin magnet wire...

Because the wire does not have the strength to be wound around, I would
wind it on a pin, slide it off, wind more and thread the other wire though
it.
The outer wire is a right handed helix.

Then the this compound coil was wound around a large Zinc coated roofing
nail, again in a right handed helix.
Then I attached a signal generator and put power though the coil.
Note: I have also found that the odd number below an even number tends to
feed it energy, so Copper 29 feeds energy to Zinc 30.

The longer this ran and the longer I felt for the energy, the stronger it
got.
At first I assumed what I had was "Aether flow" whatever that means, but
eventually I came to realize that there was a right handed energy, a lesser
amount of left handed energy, and if both of those energies were removed
there were other energies.
Some appear to act as though they are pseudo negative charges (right
handed), some as though they are positive charges (left handed), these
energies will convey through a twisted wire join, they act like they are a
spin field, then there are energies that appear more longitudinal and
neutral in those respects.

I found that some people could feel these energies, technologically
created, even when the device was hidden and they knew nothing about it.
And, for the record, this was true even if the device was given to another
party.

I then found that all sorts of things can affect the vacuum, light is
perfectly able to (though the "energy" formed is not as dense as that of
matter), much as Dan A. Davidson discloses in his book "Shape Power", I
found that I could affect this medium with images, with light!

So, if you wish, though there is at best a 50% chance you will feel it,
maybe lower from those with a scientific or skeptical bent, I could send
you images that structure this aether, or, virtual particle flux, pr
whatever it is.

I got here by correlating a lot of Free Energy and Antigravity devices that
seemed to suggest something along the ideas of an "Aether Vortex", this was
a common theory, or observation with many on the list making it, but few or
none have chased this down as I have.

I suspect that most of what I have discovered could be re-framed as quantum
physics, or more correctly sub-quantum physics of virtual particles.

This can all be proven as real, it is despite the currently subjective
nature of it's detection quite objectively real, and demonstrably so.
But most people have blinders on that won't let them dive into this kind of
thing, it's like the robots in West World, "It doesn't look like anything
to me".

But, the promise of this technology is Antigravity, Free Energy and much
more, and it can be experimented with for free, rapidly once sensitivity
and comprehension has been gained with images.
Though, I really need to move back into hardware, but that is a lot slower
an area in which to experiment.


Jonathan Berry

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 11:40 PM Brian Ahern  wrote:

> What was the unusual coil?
>
> --
> *From:* Jonathan Berry 
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:56 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Antimatter
>
> BTW, a necessary part of that theory of "part filled containers". the idea
> that electrons, protons and such might be able to exist with less that
> their regular level of energy and density, and that such energy might be
> hard to detect and read...   Yet be felt as Bioenergy, Chi, Orgone, Scalar.
> etc...
>
> But if a form of subtle matter and antimatter and it can annihilate, why
> doesn't it annihilate with regular matter releasing lots of energy???
> My guess would be that it does/can, but that equal sums of energy are
> extracted from both and as such the regular particle loses close to nothing
> as it can only lose as much as the lesser party, unless the "soft" particle
> has quite a bit of energy in it.
>
> It could however be that neither can interact or annihilate unless they
> are at the same or a very close level of energy.
>
> If this interpretation of virtual particles not reasonable?
>
> Couldn't I have found a way of increasing the virtual particle
> flux/emission/production?
>
> BTW, following this line of reasoning I have created my most tangible
> energy yet.
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
> Hi Vorts, I have an interesting connection my research has made that seems
> to connect to anti-matter.
>
> As some of you might know (I have been on this list for what, 20 years) I
> began researching the aether, and then 7-8 years ago I made an unusual coil
> that emitted an energy that could be felt, that seemed to be "aether" like.
> One observation I made about this technology was the tendency for an
> energy to form in the center of a circle, and then this energy would have
> "beams" come out of it, with one energy going up, and down, one north, one
> south, one east, 

Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

The answer is simple

q^2 --> rm. Charge square is proportional to rotating mass. In a proton 
much more mass is needed to produce the same charge. Ergo adding an 
electron can do nothing...


J.W.

Am 30.08.19 um 22:44 schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 22:36:57 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]

Unluckily charge is only known for the electron. The charge inside a
nucleus is given by a topological relation between waves. Charge is a
function of rotating mass. Thus your idea is to simple for next
generation of physics models.

J.W.

Then simplify the situation by only considering Hydrogen, which has the simplest
possible nucleus, comprising only a single proton, of which the charge is known
with great accuracy.
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success





--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[mixent]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 22:36:57 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>Unluckily charge is only known for the electron. The charge inside a 
>nucleus is given by a topological relation between waves. Charge is a 
>function of rotating mass. Thus your idea is to simple for next 
>generation of physics models.
>
>J.W.
Then simplify the situation by only considering Hydrogen, which has the simplest
possible nucleus, comprising only a single proton, of which the charge is known
with great accuracy.
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

Unluckily charge is only known for the electron. The charge inside a 
nucleus is given by a topological relation between waves. Charge is a 
function of rotating mass. Thus your idea is to simple for next 
generation of physics models.


J.W.


Am 30.08.19 um 21:45 schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:59:28 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]

First a small theoretical update.

A proton consists of a 2x2 core relativistic wave structure that couples
with a three wave excess-energy flux part and a two wave charge
structure. In SO(4) we have a 5 rotation structure where core mass only
can have 4 and charge has 5. This model is highly accurate and allows
e.g. to calculate nuclear properties like e.g. the magnetic moment of
Deuterium and of course it's exact mass.

 From an energy point of view it is completely impossible that adding an
electron to a proton will ever generate an anti proton because you would
need to completely inverse the flow of all magnetic mass. In the
electron case the annihilation is straight forward because the external
visible orbits do match in shape and energy! But a proton and electron
never match.

1) The energy of a ( positron + anti-proton ) = ( electron + proton ), thus from
an energy standpoint there is no problem.

2) They don't need to match, because we are not talking about annihilation, we
are talking about a charge exchange mechanism, where the proton becomes
negative, and the electron positive, i.e. electron -> positron & proton ->
anti-proton.

3) Annihilation occurs when the newly formed anti-proton meets another normal
proton, where the structures do match. (Ditto for the positron.)

Taking this into consideration, please have another go at explaining why it's
impossible. Note that I think you may be right, but would like to understand the
real reason why.






[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success





--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[mixent]

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 13:59:28 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>First a small theoretical update.
>
>A proton consists of a 2x2 core relativistic wave structure that couples 
>with a three wave excess-energy flux part and a two wave charge 
>structure. In SO(4) we have a 5 rotation structure where core mass only 
>can have 4 and charge has 5. This model is highly accurate and allows 
>e.g. to calculate nuclear properties like e.g. the magnetic moment of 
>Deuterium and of course it's exact mass.
>
> From an energy point of view it is completely impossible that adding an 
>electron to a proton will ever generate an anti proton because you would 
>need to completely inverse the flow of all magnetic mass. In the 
>electron case the annihilation is straight forward because the external 
>visible orbits do match in shape and energy! But a proton and electron 
>never match.

1) The energy of a ( positron + anti-proton ) = ( electron + proton ), thus from
an energy standpoint there is no problem.

2) They don't need to match, because we are not talking about annihilation, we
are talking about a charge exchange mechanism, where the proton becomes
negative, and the electron positive, i.e. electron -> positron & proton ->
anti-proton.

3) Annihilation occurs when the newly formed anti-proton meets another normal
proton, where the structures do match. (Ditto for the positron.)

Taking this into consideration, please have another go at explaining why it's
impossible. Note that I think you may be right, but would like to understand the
real reason why.






[snip]
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

RE: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Robin—



I think you are close to the real model of protons  and neutrons.  This 
consideration reflects P. Hatt’s model of nucleons as validated by high energy 
inelastic electron scattering experiments.



The experiments have been evaluated by William Stubbs in several papers and in 
his recent book on nuclear physical structures.  The analyses he has 
accomplished brings into question the generally accepted  model of quarks and a 
“sea” of  gluons.



Bob Cook






From: mix...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 7:37:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 01:59:00 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]
>PS: And please forget the matter anti matter story. It is childish old
>physics thinking. Why e.g. can a nucleus expel antimatter 
>(positron...) Annihilation is only one option when e- e+ meet.

Perhaps under the right conditions, an electron can combine with a proton,
expelling a positron, and converting the proton into an anti-proton.
Then the anti-proton annihilates a normal proton.
The expelled positron annihilates an external electron.
Charge is conserved because two electrons & two protons have gone.
The net result is the complete conversion of mass into energy.
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Anti-matter

[Jürg Wyttenbach]

First a small theoretical update.

A proton consists of a 2x2 core relativistic wave structure that couples 
with a three wave excess-energy flux part and a two wave charge 
structure. In SO(4) we have a 5 rotation structure where core mass only 
can have 4 and charge has 5. This model is highly accurate and allows 
e.g. to calculate nuclear properties like e.g. the magnetic moment of 
Deuterium and of course it's exact mass.


From an energy point of view it is completely impossible that adding an 
electron to a proton will ever generate an anti proton because you would 
need to completely inverse the flow of all magnetic mass. In the 
electron case the annihilation is straight forward because the external 
visible orbits do match in shape and energy! But a proton and electron 
never match.


Jonathan:

Now to the Tesla coil setup. You will see the same as we see in side a 
nucleus. Two parallel ring currents induce by two quasi "parallel" 
(toroidal!) fields currents do a coupling according Biot Savard. This 
happens as a virtual mass. The weight of this this virtual mass is = the 
energy needed to separate the two toroidal fields. So far no virtual 
particles no energy gain nothing just plain physics.


But we have no clue how the background (ether) works. This is beyond 
SO(4) physics, that certainly will replace most of SM nonsensical 
inventions like Higgs particles virtual particle coupling etc..
Around 1910 physics (e,p,h,alpha,c) have been defined around the 
electron magnetic mass. Then came the mathematicians that only could 
solve square equations and bingo they switched from magnetism to 
potentials...
Thus most SM is nonsense or fringe science (exchange particles, time 
reversal, parity violation, quark, bifidus, yogurt...Higgs, hick's,..)




Am 30.08.19 um 04:37 schrieb mix...@bigpond.com:

In reply to  Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Fri, 30 Aug 2019 01:59:00 +0200:
Hi,
[snip]

PS: And please forget the matter anti matter story. It is childish old
physics thinking. Why e.g. can a nucleus expel antimatter 
(positron...) Annihilation is only one option when e- e+ meet.

Perhaps under the right conditions, an electron can combine with a proton,
expelling a positron, and converting the proton into an anti-proton.
Then the anti-proton annihilates a normal proton.
The expelled positron annihilates an external electron.
Charge is conserved because two electrons & two protons have gone.
The net result is the complete conversion of mass into energy.
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success





--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Brian Ahern]

What was the unusual coil?


From: Jonathan Berry 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:56 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

BTW, a necessary part of that theory of "part filled containers". the idea that 
electrons, protons and such might be able to exist with less that their regular 
level of energy and density, and that such energy might be hard to detect and 
read...   Yet be felt as Bioenergy, Chi, Orgone, Scalar. etc...

But if a form of subtle matter and antimatter and it can annihilate, why 
doesn't it annihilate with regular matter releasing lots of energy???
My guess would be that it does/can, but that equal sums of energy are extracted 
from both and as such the regular particle loses close to nothing as it can 
only lose as much as the lesser party, unless the "soft" particle has quite a 
bit of energy in it.

It could however be that neither can interact or annihilate unless they are at 
the same or a very close level of energy.

If this interpretation of virtual particles not reasonable?

Couldn't I have found a way of increasing the virtual particle 
flux/emission/production?

BTW, following this line of reasoning I have created my most tangible energy 
yet.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Jonathan Berry 
mailto:aethe...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Vorts, I have an interesting connection my research has made that seems to 
connect to anti-matter.

As some of you might know (I have been on this list for what, 20 years) I began 
researching the aether, and then 7-8 years ago I made an unusual coil that 
emitted an energy that could be felt, that seemed to be "aether" like.
One observation I made about this technology was the tendency for an energy to 
form in the center of a circle, and then this energy would have "beams" come 
out of it, with one energy going up, and down, one north, one south, one east, 
one west and then also diagonals, making 8 primary beams in each direction.   
But the number isn't important.

This turns out to be not to be a unique discovery, this has been noted by 
others
Then the other day I came to realize that the energy going in the opposite 
direction, happens to "cancel" out the energy!
So the energy that goes north and the energy that goes south annihilate each 
other!

So, then I started to wonder with more seriousness, "What if my 'Aetheric 
Energy'" is virtual particle pairs?
I did also find that applying a potential (magnetic, electric, or other) would 
polarize and increase this activity.

So, I began to speculate the following...
Circles with the right energetic activity create a focal point that expresses 
more virtual particles than the background...
That the fields helps split the virtual particles apart...

And, now we come to the Crux of this post...

When two virtual particles annihilate, what happens???
Answer, nothing!

What happens when two regular particles annihilate???
Release of energy, Gamma!

What happens when one half of a virtual particle pair falls into the event 
horizon of a black hole according to accepted science? (Hawking radiation)
It becomes a real particle that if it then annihilates with another real 
particle releases energy...

So, the crux of the question is, "what change occurs to the virtual particle to 
make it real"?
And I would propose the answer is simply, Time!

Here is what i suspect is going on!
When a virtual particle is made, it is like an empty container, when it 
annihilates nothing happens.
However, if energy is "given" to the virtual particle, then it isn't any longer 
empty, but it might not have enough energy to be detected as a regular solid 
particle yet.

However, when it now annihilates, it will release the energy it does have.

I think the idea that just because it's other half fell into a black hole it 
instantly becomes "real" is nonsense, what if it's partner annihilated with 
another virtual particle, wouldn't that accomplish much the same!  Now I just 
implied that all of space should emit Hawking radiation.

When I look at some of the details of Free Energy device claims,
Antigravity and the like, there is evidence of "half way" electrons and 
mysterious releases of light, could this be partly filled "virtual" particles 
annihilating and releasing light?
it would make a lot of sense, and it makes sense with regards to Quantum 
Physics too!

If anyone wants to experience the forms that create this tangible energy, just 
ask.


John

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Brian Ahern]

Brian  Ahern wants to know more about your aether issues.


From: Jonathan Berry 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:43 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: [Vo]:Antimatter

Hi Vorts, I have an interesting connection my research has made that seems to 
connect to anti-matter.

As some of you might know (I have been on this list for what, 20 years) I began 
researching the aether, and then 7-8 years ago I made an unusual coil that 
emitted an energy that could be felt, that seemed to be "aether" like.
One observation I made about this technology was the tendency for an energy to 
form in the center of a circle, and then this energy would have "beams" come 
out of it, with one energy going up, and down, one north, one south, one east, 
one west and then also diagonals, making 8 primary beams in each direction.   
But the number isn't important.

This turns out to be not to be a unique discovery, this has been noted by 
others
Then the other day I came to realize that the energy going in the opposite 
direction, happens to "cancel" out the energy!
So the energy that goes north and the energy that goes south annihilate each 
other!

So, then I started to wonder with more seriousness, "What if my 'Aetheric 
Energy'" is virtual particle pairs?
I did also find that applying a potential (magnetic, electric, or other) would 
polarize and increase this activity.

So, I began to speculate the following...
Circles with the right energetic activity create a focal point that expresses 
more virtual particles than the background...
That the fields helps split the virtual particles apart...

And, now we come to the Crux of this post...

When two virtual particles annihilate, what happens???
Answer, nothing!

What happens when two regular particles annihilate???
Release of energy, Gamma!

What happens when one half of a virtual particle pair falls into the event 
horizon of a black hole according to accepted science? (Hawking radiation)
It becomes a real particle that if it then annihilates with another real 
particle releases energy...

So, the crux of the question is, "what change occurs to the virtual particle to 
make it real"?
And I would propose the answer is simply, Time!

Here is what i suspect is going on!
When a virtual particle is made, it is like an empty container, when it 
annihilates nothing happens.
However, if energy is "given" to the virtual particle, then it isn't any longer 
empty, but it might not have enough energy to be detected as a regular solid 
particle yet.

However, when it now annihilates, it will release the energy it does have.

I think the idea that just because it's other half fell into a black hole it 
instantly becomes "real" is nonsense, what if it's partner annihilated with 
another virtual particle, wouldn't that accomplish much the same!  Now I just 
implied that all of space should emit Hawking radiation.

When I look at some of the details of Free Energy device claims,
Antigravity and the like, there is evidence of "half way" electrons and 
mysterious releases of light, could this be partly filled "virtual" particles 
annihilating and releasing light?
it would make a lot of sense, and it makes sense with regards to Quantum 
Physics too!

If anyone wants to experience the forms that create this tangible energy, just 
ask.


John

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Axil Axil]

Hawking radiation is comprised of two entangled photons, One photon is an
IR photon and the other is a photon that has a negative frequency partner
to the IR photon.

The negative frequency photon when normalize to a positive frequency turns
into a UV photon.

Time stops at the event horizon. The UV photon is frozen on the event
horizon until the black hole is destroyed. In a cosmological black hole,
one formed by intense gravity, the cosmological black hole is never
destroyed. The cosmological black hole is self perpetuating. But when a EMF
black hole forms through pumping of EMF such as through the application of
heat, light, or RF, the black hole will be destroyed when the pumping is
stopped. When the EMF black hole is destroyed, the energy that it contains
is released. The UV photon is free to radiate into our reality.

Rossi pumps his EVOs with an alternating RF signal. On every cycle of that
signal the EMF black hole accumulates UV photons that are stored on the
event horizon. When the signal stops, the EMF black hole dies and the UV
photon is released. this pumping cycle happens billions of times each
second.

Getting deeper into the weeds, the EMF black hole is actually a Bose
condensate. When the pumping stops, the condensate falls below the level of
coherence that produces an event horizon, and when the pumping stops it
goes subcritical and quesent. When the pumping begins again, the condensate
gets more powerful to the point where the event horizon reforms.

You can see that the SK reactor is a magnificent piece of technology. It is
amazing that it was created by trial and error.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 3:01 AM Axil Axil  wrote:

> Actually, the process that produces the vacuum effects in the LENR
> reaction is a Bose condensate. This condensate is a duel of the
> cosmological black hole. What that means is that the Bose condensate
> adheres to the same equations that describes a black hole. But there is no
> gravity effects involved. Accumulation and concentration of mass is not
> required to produce the event horizon. But time dilation seems to be
> occuring in the process of transmutation and energy release.
>
> This Bose condensate is a special type. It may be a Higgs field
> condensate. This field gives mass to fermions and this drives quarks into a
> state of disorganization. Matter falls apart when exposed to this ultra
> dense Higgs field. This generation of extra quark mass is what produces
> transmutation. But the nature of the coherent condensate hides the energy
> and particles produced by that condensate from our reality. MFMP has
> actually taken a picture of this condensate that has come out of LENR fuel
> and it appears to be a dark blob with a hexagonal pattern showing on its
> inside. This is a sign that it is a supersolid. This is what Rossi calls "a
> compact neutral aggregates at a pico-metric (10-12 m) scale", But in
> reality, this blob as pictured was 100s of microns in size and visible to
> the unaided eye. Rossi must keep his blobs small to keep his reactor from
> turning to dust. These blobs can grow very large and powerful. Fabiani has
> said that he has seen these blobs that looks like tini stars eating away
> the structure of Rossi's reactor.
>
> Fabiani: "We have photographs of creatures that emit pure light that have
> completely melted the reactor down, all in a very quiet way."
>
>
> The LENR reaction is very misleading. Two processes are going on at the
> same time: transmutation and energy generation. Transmutation usually does
> not result in energy production.
>
> Radiation mitigation in transmutation is a result of quantum
> superposition.
>
> causal observer: "Multiple pathways could even be interfering with each
> other," BINGO.
>
> Superposition hides the effects of transmutation. All we get out of
> transmutation is cold ash. When something is in Quantum superposition, it
> is not observable.
>
> Quantum superposition
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
> 
>
> in the Cat state, you cannot see the cat, it is still in the box. if the
> cat is dead, over a long time the cat rots away, When you open the box, all
> you see is the bones of the cat.
>
> the Cat state
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
> 
>
> [image: Thumbnail]
> 
>
>
> There is a density threshold that the Bose condensate must surpass for
> quantum superposition to become established. If that threshold is not
> surpassed, then all the effects of the nuclear activity of transmutation
> will manifest since global quantum superposition is not yet established.
> This occurs in a weak reaction. For example, Russ George reports the
> 

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Axil Axil]

Actually, the process that produces the vacuum effects in the LENR reaction
is a Bose condensate. This condensate is a duel of the cosmological black
hole. What that means is that the Bose condensate adheres to the same
equations that describes a black hole. But there is no gravity effects
involved. Accumulation and concentration of mass is not required to produce
the event horizon. But time dilation seems to be occuring in the process of
transmutation and energy release.

This Bose condensate is a special type. It may be a Higgs field condensate.
This field gives mass to fermions and this drives quarks into a state of
disorganization. Matter falls apart when exposed to this ultra dense Higgs
field. This generation of extra quark mass is what produces transmutation.
But the nature of the coherent condensate hides the energy and particles
produced by that condensate from our reality. MFMP has actually taken a
picture of this condensate that has come out of LENR fuel and it appears to
be a dark blob with a hexagonal pattern showing on its inside. This is a
sign that it is a supersolid. This is what Rossi calls "a compact neutral
aggregates at a pico-metric (10-12 m) scale", But in reality, this blob as
pictured was 100s of microns in size and visible to the unaided eye. Rossi
must keep his blobs small to keep his reactor from turning to dust. These
blobs can grow very large and powerful. Fabiani has said that he has seen
these blobs that looks like tini stars eating away the structure of Rossi's
reactor.

Fabiani: "We have photographs of creatures that emit pure light that have
completely melted the reactor down, all in a very quiet way."


The LENR reaction is very misleading. Two processes are going on at the
same time: transmutation and energy generation. Transmutation usually does
not result in energy production.

Radiation mitigation in transmutation is a result of quantum superposition.

causal observer: "Multiple pathways could even be interfering with each
other," BINGO.

Superposition hides the effects of transmutation. All we get out of
transmutation is cold ash. When something is in Quantum superposition, it
is not observable.

Quantum superposition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...


in the Cat state, you cannot see the cat, it is still in the box. if the
cat is dead, over a long time the cat rots away, When you open the box, all
you see is the bones of the cat.

the Cat state
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...


[image: Thumbnail]



There is a density threshold that the Bose condensate must surpass for
quantum superposition to become established. If that threshold is not
surpassed, then all the effects of the nuclear activity of transmutation
will manifest since global quantum superposition is not yet established.
This occurs in a weak reaction. For example, Russ George reports the
production of radiation in his reactors. In addition, radiation appeared
during startup and shutdown on Rossi's early reactors when the Bose
condensate was either building strength or dying away. The density of a
Bose condensate is dictated by the amount of energy pumping that it
receives. Vigorous pumping at reaction initiation will suppress the
production of nuclear radiation products that accompany transmutation.

All the EUV light that the SK reactor produces comes from the extraction of
energy from the vacuum. The strength of the Bose condensate carried by the
EVOs in the plasma is enough to shield the production of energy, if any,
from transmutation.

The term vacuum is also misleading, Space time is full of energy. 68% of
the universe is energy (dark energy). Only 4% is matter and light,

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:38 AM Axil Axil  wrote:

> Do you know the story of Direc and the positron?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron
> 
>
> The positron is a negative particle going backward in time, but when time
> is reversed so is the charge and the energy of the positron is turned
> positive (parity-time (PT) state change) (PT symmetry breaking) .
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hermitian_quantum_mechanics
> 
>
> In a gravity black hole, the gravitational singularity reverses time and
> the positive energy particle becomes a negative energy particle again.
>
> In an analog black hole (a polariton condensate), there is no singularity
> so the infalling particle remains a positive energy particle. This is true

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Axil Axil]

Do you know the story of Direc and the positron?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positron


The positron is a negative particle going backward in time, but when time
is reversed so is the charge and the energy of the positron is turned
positive (parity-time (PT) state change) (PT symmetry breaking) .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Hermitian_quantum_mechanics


In a gravity black hole, the gravitational singularity reverses time and
the positive energy particle becomes a negative energy particle again.

In an analog black hole (a polariton condensate), there is no singularity
so the infalling particle remains a positive energy particle. This is true
for photons. Photons with negative frequency are positive energy particles.
These negative frequency photons are where the 100 to 200 nm EUV photons
are coming from in the SK reactor each time the analog black hole explodes
(Bosenova). . Unlike in a gravity based black hole, there is no
gravitational singularity to reverse time in an analog black hole and the
positive energy negative frequency photon stays a positive energy particle.

Yes it is complicated, and it is a work in progress.

On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:24 AM Axil Axil  wrote:

>
> https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEOXYLtbVuvynWTHXLXofKSUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowzuOICzCZ4ocDMO7xqQY?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen
>
> Quantum properties can be separated from particles. If particles are also
> waves, tt's like separating the music produced by drums from the sounds
> produced by a band.
>
> An electron is comprised of a set of quantum properties just like the
> music of a band is composed of sounds made by individual instruments.
> These properties direct the behavior of the electron. Unlike free electrons
> in a vacuum, these quantum properties can be isolated from other quantum
> properties when the electron is part of a solid.
>
> The coming thing in condensed matter physics and quantum engineering is
> the ability in general to select these quantum properties of both fermions
> (electrons) and/or bosons (photons) that are useful and discard the others.
>
> It is two of these properties (isospin and hypercharge) called spinors
> that make up the contents of the Bose condensate.  Hypercharge gives quarks
> and electrons mass. It is what the Higgs field is comprised of. It is
> possible to isolate this property and apply it to quarks.
>
> It is now possible to build a material (LENR Fuel) that hosts electron
> based quasiparticles that mix and match the quantum properties selected
> from one or more of its fundamental particle quantum properties that are
> useful (EVO) and to ignore or restrict the other less advantageous ones.
> The selected quantum properties can be strengthened and protected while
> other properties can be ignored.
>
> It is possible to isolate hypercharge from electrons and condense this
> mass giving property into a plasmoid. called an EVO. When the greatly
> amplified analog Higgs field that has been extracted from electrons are
> applied to quarks, this field  produces transmutation.
>
> The Higgs field carries the weak force. It is possible to greatly amplify
> the Higgs field by extracting  hypercharge   from the electron and
> condensing it in a bose condensate.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:56 PM Jonathan Berry 
> wrote:
>
>> BTW, a necessary part of that theory of "part filled containers". the
>> idea that electrons, protons and such might be able to exist with less that
>> their regular level of energy and density, and that such energy might be
>> hard to detect and read...   Yet be felt as Bioenergy, Chi, Orgone, Scalar.
>> etc...
>>
>> But if a form of subtle matter and antimatter and it can annihilate, why
>> doesn't it annihilate with regular matter releasing lots of energy???
>> My guess would be that it does/can, but that equal sums of energy are
>> extracted from both and as such the regular particle loses close to nothing
>> as it can only lose as much as the lesser party, unless the "soft" particle
>> has quite a bit of energy in it.
>>
>> It could however be that neither can interact or annihilate unless they
>> are at the same or a very close level of energy.
>>
>> If this interpretation of virtual particles not reasonable?
>>
>> Couldn't I have found a way of increasing the virtual particle
>> flux/emission/production?
>>
>> BTW, following this line of reasoning I have created my most tangible
>> energy yet.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Jonathan Berry 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Vorts, I have an interesting connection my research has made that
>>> seems to connect to anti-matter.
>>>
>>> As some of you might know (I have been on this list for what, 20 years)
>>> I began researching the aether, and then 7-8 years ago I made an 

Re: [Vo]:Antimatter

[Axil Axil]

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEOXYLtbVuvynWTHXLXofKSUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowzuOICzCZ4ocDMO7xqQY?hl=en-US=US=US%3Aen

Quantum properties can be separated from particles. If particles are also
waves, tt's like separating the music produced by drums from the sounds
produced by a band.

An electron is comprised of a set of quantum properties just like the music
of a band is composed of sounds made by individual instruments.  These
properties direct the behavior of the electron. Unlike free electrons in a
vacuum, these quantum properties can be isolated from other quantum
properties when the electron is part of a solid.

The coming thing in condensed matter physics and quantum engineering is the
ability in general to select these quantum properties of both fermions
(electrons) and/or bosons (photons) that are useful and discard the others.

It is two of these properties (isospin and hypercharge) called spinors that
make up the contents of the Bose condensate.  Hypercharge gives quarks and
electrons mass. It is what the Higgs field is comprised of. It is possible
to isolate this property and apply it to quarks.

It is now possible to build a material (LENR Fuel) that hosts electron
based quasiparticles that mix and match the quantum properties selected
from one or more of its fundamental particle quantum properties that are
useful (EVO) and to ignore or restrict the other less advantageous ones.
The selected quantum properties can be strengthened and protected while
other properties can be ignored.

It is possible to isolate hypercharge from electrons and condense this mass
giving property into a plasmoid. called an EVO. When the greatly amplified
analog Higgs field that has been extracted from electrons are applied to
quarks, this field  produces transmutation.

The Higgs field carries the weak force. It is possible to greatly amplify
the Higgs field by extracting  hypercharge   from the electron and
condensing it in a bose condensate.



On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 10:56 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:

> BTW, a necessary part of that theory of "part filled containers". the idea
> that electrons, protons and such might be able to exist with less that
> their regular level of energy and density, and that such energy might be
> hard to detect and read...   Yet be felt as Bioenergy, Chi, Orgone, Scalar.
> etc...
>
> But if a form of subtle matter and antimatter and it can annihilate, why
> doesn't it annihilate with regular matter releasing lots of energy???
> My guess would be that it does/can, but that equal sums of energy are
> extracted from both and as such the regular particle loses close to nothing
> as it can only lose as much as the lesser party, unless the "soft" particle
> has quite a bit of energy in it.
>
> It could however be that neither can interact or annihilate unless they
> are at the same or a very close level of energy.
>
> If this interpretation of virtual particles not reasonable?
>
> Couldn't I have found a way of increasing the virtual particle
> flux/emission/production?
>
> BTW, following this line of reasoning I have created my most tangible
> energy yet.
>
> On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:43 PM Jonathan Berry  wrote:
>
>> Hi Vorts, I have an interesting connection my research has made that
>> seems to connect to anti-matter.
>>
>> As some of you might know (I have been on this list for what, 20 years) I
>> began researching the aether, and then 7-8 years ago I made an unusual coil
>> that emitted an energy that could be felt, that seemed to be "aether" like.
>> One observation I made about this technology was the tendency for an
>> energy to form in the center of a circle, and then this energy would have
>> "beams" come out of it, with one energy going up, and down, one north, one
>> south, one east, one west and then also diagonals, making 8 primary beams
>> in each direction.   But the number isn't important.
>>
>> This turns out to be not to be a unique discovery, this has been noted by
>> others
>> Then the other day I came to realize that the energy going in the
>> opposite direction, happens to "cancel" out the energy!
>> So the energy that goes north and the energy that goes south annihilate
>> each other!
>>
>> So, then I started to wonder with more seriousness, "What if my 'Aetheric
>> Energy'" is virtual particle pairs?
>> I did also find that applying a potential (magnetic, electric, or other)
>> would polarize and increase this activity.
>>
>> So, I began to speculate the following...
>> Circles with the right energetic activity create a focal point that
>> expresses more virtual particles than the background...
>> That the fields helps split the virtual particles apart...
>>
>> And, now we come to the Crux of this post...
>>
>> When two virtual particles annihilate, what happens???
>> Answer, nothing!
>>
>> What happens when two regular particles annihilate???
>> Release of energy, Gamma!
>>
>> What happens when one half of a virtual particle pair falls into the
>> event horizon