, and the isotopic
composition may well be indistinguishable
from that of natural copper.
Now if that enrichment process is feasible, we need to run some
numbers to see if 200 W.h is in the ball park
for 5 x enrichment of Ni-64.
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are
present swirling in the opposite direction. I don't know how that
would affect the Ni2+ ions.
Any physicists / electrochemists in the room?
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for the depleted feedstock. That is key.
There seldom is a market, but since nickel has that as its major feature,
then an enriched isotope on a mass production scale, for a NiH energy system,
is not out of the question.
-Original Message-
From: Berke Durak
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011
ratio in natural nickel is not enough for self-sustained operation.
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Hi Pasha,
Could you give an estimate for the energy required for
preparing 10 kg of nickel following that procedure?
Rossi claims 200 W.h is sufficient.
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, and the amount of iron required would be about 250 kg
per module.
Look at the pictures of the e-Cat. The modules are standing on pieces of metal
supported by 5 cm x 5 cm angle sections about 5mm thick. I don't think you can
put 500 - 750 kg over 1.5 m on such angle sections.
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9.5e9/5.25e9 = 1.81 cubic meters.
Assume you have 50 modules of 70 cm x 30 cm x 45 cm.
That makes 4.7 cubic meters. Not enough space for cement
(unless you know of some special kind of cement.)
Using iron, it would fit, but it would weight way too much, at
250 kg per module.
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is false, anything goes and there is nothing left to
investigate. You have
to put faith in something, otherwise it is pointless to discuss - just
call it a scam and move on.
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. In the 1MW demo, the steam is condensed and fed back in,
there is no way of knowing how much water was actually vaporized.
How did they get the 3716 liters of vaporized water figure then?
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that can be there only if this
is a hoax, such models won't speak for the hoax hypothesis.
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before we
poison what little drinkable water is left by fracking or nuclear
disasters. Maybe we deserve to die.
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) Are there other techniques for getting rid of water?
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was escaped
neither to drain nor air.
That's not getting rid of water.
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liters of
water in 5.5 hours so that it escapes into the atmosphere?
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. The input energy was only 238 MJ.
There is clearly a large amount of excess energy, unless we assume
that the whole report and everything else was falsified.
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On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Peter Heckert
peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Am 13.11.2011 01:47, schrieb Berke Durak:
Even if only water flowed through the pipe, and even if we assume
that its temperature was actually only 100 degrees, then at least
1.17 GJ of energy would be required
After watching the available footage and looking at the pictures of
the Oct. 28th demo, I have
just drawn a diagram of the system as I think it was that day.
http://i.imgur.com/Ipn7W.png
Please report any inaccuracies or misuse of engineering symbols.
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in the video available on Youtube. It has a sticker that
reads Altertecno 450 KVA. I can add another 300 KVA genset for
version 2.
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.)
http://imgur.com/Nxaj2
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. Where these the pumps you meant,
Albert?
Missing are :
- the automatic valves for keeping the water level.
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.
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.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=12#comment-118170
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m pipe length to the condensers is correct.
Also, these measurements are based on a container width of 2.6 m as
given in the report - corroborated by a deduced floor tile size of 30
cm.
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So you have water in the two 1000 l reservoirs with an average temperature of
~18 degrees (Celsius).
Output temperature was 104.5 C average.
I don't give a damn about steam. I presume the boiler wasn't operating at
sub-atmospheric pressure, right? So let's just say that the water was heated
to
, but it would weight way too much, at
250 kg per module.
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of excess energy, and the only
non-cold-fusion explanation involves an international conspiracy and
technologically non-trivial deception.
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it a bit for only 1 kW.
Claiming that the energy comes from that amount of hydrogen is equivalent
to admitting nuclear reactions.
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path of technological innovation and have been mostly met
with accusations of fraud. They noticed that no conceivable
demonstration would be good enough for pseudoskeptics, so they focus
on commercialization, which is the only way to get the devices
accepted.
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might have come from
the pre-heating period need to provide plausible accumulation, storage
and retrieval mechanisms compatible with the claimed geometries
of the reactors.
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the
thing running?
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this disinformation about Rossi being a chalatan
with a fake PhD from a diploma mill coming from?
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the pumps were controlled.
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. The
input temperature rises by a few degrees.
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I'm being told that Dottore Magistrale in Filosofia is the
equivalent to a master's degree,
and not to a Ph.D.
Are there any Italian-speaking persons familiar with Italian research
education here
that could comment on this?
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) there is a frigging control system.
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.
I find your rate of change of power transfer too high vs thermal
inertia argument intriguing, but it would be nice if you could
explain it logically and numerically. Currently, your explanations
are entangled with a multitude of hypotheses and suppositions.
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. If you pump in water, you may cover more of the
heating element if it has vertical surfaces, and thus arbitrarily
increase the power transfer.
Sincerely,
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. The
current can be ramped up very quickly.
So if you start pumping more, the water level rises, and so does the
evaporation rate and the power transfer. In principle, you just have
to control the pumps and provide enough power to have a dQ/dt as high
as you wish (within limits, of course).
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. I like that idea, but
maybe someone knows better.
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to capacity? Please explain.
What was the capacity of the pumps? How many pumps were on? Do you know
how they were they controlled? If you have all that information, why
don't you share?
Sincerely,
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know how fast
the water mixed, nor where the input temperature sensor
was.
Here is a diagram explaining this scenario:
http://i.imgur.com/LLtrR.png
Also, note that for water to boil at 112 degrees you need a
pressure of about 150 kPa, which is about five meters of
water.
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
David Roberson proposed a theory where a water clog forms
because of condensation.
Because of this clog, pressure and temperature rises until
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 8:50 AM, vorl bek vorl@antichef.com wrote:
Since lead melts at 327 Celsius, is there some lead alloy that
would keep it solid at 450?
What's wrong with tungsten?
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of 277 l.
The modules were arranged in 8 or 10 rows of 5 m (since that is the dimension of
the container). That's likely 40 to 50 m of tubing. That tubing with an
inner radius of 2.66 - 3 mm.
It all makes perfect sense to me.
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Sorry I meant diameter. The inner DIAMETER of tubing would have to be
2.66 - 3 mm.
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On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 7:04 AM, Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote:
Doesnt happen to a Nato Colonel with 30 years of experience.
These guys are topfit, far above average.
Are you seriously claiming that a category of people doesn't make mistakes?
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sarcasm.
I'd be happier when you guys come up with real arguments and not silly I don't
like his handwriting! arguments.
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be
protected from vulgar language?
PS. How about a ban on ad hominem attacks and unsusbtantiated
accusations or insinuations of scam or incompetence?
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the use of at least 25 GJ. That's 29 days of use for a 10 kW
e-Cat.)
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person.
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demo, so
minor adjustments and reasonable hypotheses are needed to make sense
of it.
So far I haven't found anything significantly wrong with the 1 MW
demo. Also I still don't understand your instantaneous power
transfer discontinuity argument.
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in that
range wouldn't have been detected by Villa - this is clearly stated in
the abstract.
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excess heat.
(3) You cannot exclude a small amount of energetic gammas being
produced. So you could get most of the heat from 200 keV photons,
plus the occasional 750 keV photon.
Remember that guy who measured a gamma spike while Rossi was adjusting
a reactor in the other room?
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CF/LENR/CANR/whatever
it turns out to be.
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is heavier than the most abundant isotope Ni-58 by a
hopping 10%, making separation way easier than, say, uranium
enrichment.
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and participated!
Free for non commercial use.
Televisions, radios, newspapers, in or out the net, and web sites with
advertising can contact us for permission:l...@phizero.it
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.
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is needed, but we cannot
rule out the possibility that raising the Ni-64 fraction by a couple
percentage points would not be sufficient.
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during its functioning.
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may be right
about that. But there might very well be low energy radiation. Also,
there might still be high-enery radiation since the physics of the
device are not understood -- how about that heavy electron shielding?
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ordinary scintillators and probes. There was a hole in the shielding,
but there's plenty of material left to shield the reactions.
So you just cannot say that there was or wasn't low-energy ( 200 keV)
gammas.
Finally, why all the hate?
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Axil Axil wrote:
I think I can safely say no one understands quantum mechanics, the
late physicist Richard Feynman once famously explained.
Does anyone know if and how entanglement effects are explained in
stochastic electrodynamics?
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-based forums can inject malware, and web sites can be
blocked. Lots of people may
be reading Vortex e-mails from work; if Vortex moves to a web-based
forum, some of them
may no longer be able to participate due to IT policies in effect at
their workplaces.
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are
discussed, this is totally inappropriate.
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3. The clamp ammeters are incapable of detecting not only DC but also
incapable of detecting frequencies above about 60 Hz.
I think you meant 60 kHz.
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Andrew andrew...@att.net wrote:
Some points to ponder, if you run the numbers:
1. To produce the supposed
Wouldn't harmonics show on the power analyzer?
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM, Duncan Cumming spacedr...@cumming.info wrote:
With chopped DC, a clamp on ammeter will show the AC component. So if you
had 0 to 1 amp chopped, the ammeter would show 0.5 amps peak AC. So you get
a partial reading,
In fact I said the 3-phase input to the box was particularly unnecessary
*because* only single-phase was used for the box.
There are legitimate reasons to prefer 3-phase input. If the output
of the control box is a pulse width-modulated DC signal, then you need
a high-power DC source.
There
.
The map = Theory
The territory = Experiments
It's not on the map = No good theory
If it's not on the map, it can't exist! (Our map makers are very
good.) = It doesn't fit physics thus it's pseudo-science! (Our
scientists are very good.)
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indeed Rossi bother with that if he didn't have a true need to
industrialize his product?
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works. Triphase is legit and not suspicious, that's all I'm
saying.
Your claim that it only makes sense as a scamming aid remains unsupported.
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To deceive an electronics guy, one may use a chemistry trick.
To deceive a chemist, one may use software tricks.
To deceive a computer scientist, one may use a physics trick.
But using an electricity trick to deceive a group of experts sent
by a power industry association is stupid.
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Does anyone know if the power analyzer sees DC *VOLTAGES*?
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Dave,
Can the power analyzer sense DC voltages? I haven't been able to
figure this out from the manual or the datasheet, but I'm sure someone
who has actual experience with three-phase power measurements should
be able to answer that question.
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dependence on third-party
infrastructure is minimal and replaceable but it's a bit too easy for
opponents to flood and derail discussions.
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On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote:
Berke Durak,
My interest was to get Wiki to correct their entry. Not clear to me how
Reddit can help that.
The idea is that pro-LENR people could collaboratively work on a wiki
where they have editorial control, whose
poltergeist effects.
That's why we need to know if the power analyzer senses DC voltages.
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codes tattooed on our foreheads might be prerequisites
for letting CF develop. But it seems like we need cheap energy for
world peace to begin with. So maybe Rossi didn't die in a car
accident early in the game because his device is not readily
weaponizable...
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equipment nor
giving RF burns to anyone.
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could say that they switched DC
off while they had a multimeter hooked.
My point is then that even (3) IS IMPOSSIBLE IF the power meter can
sense DC voltages. That holds true even if the experimenters hadn't
checked for DC, because it would require very high currents.
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of excess power.
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integrals over time,
so the error is:
U_DC * I_DC.
In other words DC times AC cross-products do not contribute net power.
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be possible, as the temperature would
drop rapidly and this would immediately show on the IR video / temp
curve.
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using other means.
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trillion behemoth — will shrink to $1.3 billion, one-fourth the size
of the bubblegum business.
With stakes that high, shouldn't we expect LENR researchers to get
offers they can't refuse?
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:
The use of the raw electrical signal from the sensor instead of the
manufacturer-calibrated temperature represents a new situation and introduces
additional unknowns that make the estimation of the output power unreliable.
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On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:01 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote:
So they want a custom-made camera with raw output from the sensor!?
I doubt it. The way I read this point was that they wanted the raw data
Works for me. There, I shortened it: http://tinyurl.com/lyxu8f9
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote:
I was using chrome, so I tried FF and then IE, and still it can't resolve
the domain.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
popular press. These claims have been
extensively debunked and are not acceptable references under the Physics
Forums rules.
Their list of banned topics does not include continental drift.
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