Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles

2009-02-16 Thread grok
- -- grok the communist. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru these sites movements

Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles

2009-02-16 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, R C Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Hey Grok, You're sending mixed messages. Not sure if you're confessing or advocating. Richard You're just making an unwarranted assumption, komrad

Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles

2009-02-17 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, R C Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Ok Grok, I get your message. You have an identity problem.. you dont know who you are. Hey, the fun of life is you can be anybody you want ..or nobody

Re: [Vo]:OT: Economic long cycles

2009-02-17 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, R C Macaulay walha...@cvctx.com mounted the barricade and roared out: hey grok, You may not know who you are.. I didn't say I didn't know who you are.. you're easy.. just look at your advertizing below your posts. I must

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-21 Thread grok
they want, invoking their rabid individualist ideology or whatever -- but that doesn't make what I've just said any the less necessary as what we must aim for. And we can seetoday, too, where individualism(sic) gets us, for that matter... - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
the capitalist mode of production itself -- as the entire Planet has just found out, and can clearly see for itself right now. 'Atlantis' indeed... Beam me up. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA* RSS/XML newsfeeds

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
, guys. - -- grok. As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: I agree with Edmund ;) On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: I agree with John, However, there seems to be a basic misunderstanding about

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-23 Thread grok
attempting to fill the world-wide political- economic vacuum left after the Cold War. In any case, I can't see how people can believe any of this stuff. And *marxism* is supposed to be illogical..?? - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK

Re: [Vo]:Who is John Galt?

2009-02-23 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok wrote: Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently explained to me

Re: [Vo]:Socialist centrally planned science sure don't work

2009-02-24 Thread grok
the obstacle to scientific advancement in recent decades... - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews: UNfair UNbalanced * * Get mediaworx for your group/Internet/pirate tv/radio station

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 So, NO SHELLFISH FOR YOU! I love scallops. Pork too, for that matter. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott Bourgeois Mass-Media * Political Comix Cartoons

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-26 Thread grok
the xians think, but I woulds assume that E.T. would (and should) declare Open Season on the human species. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews: UNfair UNbalanced * * Get mediaworx for your

Re: [Vo]:OT: Galaxy may be full of 'Earths,' alien life

2009-02-26 Thread grok
make some exceedingly scurrilous and offensive jokes here... but I won't. ;P - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru these sites

Re: [Vo]:OT: Someone's solution to the fiscal crises

2009-02-27 Thread grok
that essential drift. Not even the collective willpower of the libertarians on Vo. But by all means continue to beat your antennae against the windowpane -- or your heads against the brick wall. We can harness all that expended energy. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:OT - The Rapture

2009-02-27 Thread grok
the xians think, but I woulds assume that E.T. would (and should) declare Open Season on the human species. Maybe they all ready have, eh? [INSERT ANAL PROBE JOKE HERE] - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS

Re: [Vo]:~*^*~\ MANHATTAN PROJECT 2009/USA: GRAY-JET DarkEnergy SINGULARITY QuantumGrav REACTOR code-named 'StarGate Project'~

2009-03-03 Thread grok
never heard of this shite B4 (not like I was paying much attention). How to sift the wheat from the chaff... (sigh) - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott bourgeois analysis *Get your daily dose from

Re: [Vo]:Threat of nuclear war is low

2009-03-03 Thread grok
to say this. Of course they don't believe this. Point is that the Republicans are liars, thieves and mass murderers -- hell, just like the Democrats -- and will say absolutely anything, if they think it will get them something. And on that we could likely agree 100%. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL

Re: [Vo]:Threat of nuclear war is low

2009-03-03 Thread grok
is full of people who want to impose the sort of dystopia that Orwell wrote about. Ya. They're called the U.S. oligarchy. Part of the problem is that Jed and Grok have been drinking of the Communitarian cool aid. I just listened to John Leoffler deliver a lecture on the subject see, http

Re: [Vo]:Author believes energy breakthroughs have been suppressed

2009-03-04 Thread grok
huge massive buildings right into their footprints. And talk about mis-direction... (bah-bah-boomp. Somebody cue the next act, please.) - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott bourgeois mass-media * Political Comix Cartoons

Re: [Vo]:Author believes energy breakthroughs have been suppressed

2009-03-04 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Finally, as for grok's most recent contributions, predictably he felt compelled to say something that he felt was presumably witty about this extremely contorted subject. I wish grok would post something useful or informative. Continuing to post

Re: [Vo]:Author believes energy breakthroughs have been suppressed

2009-03-04 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Rick Monteverde r...@highsurf.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Grok killfile Useless troll, no contribution whatsoever - typical megalomaniac problems. Request removal by list owner. Contribute to what? Ayn Rand

Re: [Vo]:Author believes energy breakthroughs have been suppressed

2009-03-04 Thread grok
. I have already nailed Grok so his postings do not trouble me. - Jed You seem to think that this is a monumental development or something... (Please anyone note I'm only responding to get in the last word in this dumb-ass pettiness.) And of course, you could care less that you people actually

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
these disclosures..? [Too bad some people won't get this email ;P ] - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE * ** Critical endorsement only * Gift-giving Year-round

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: ... making Jean Paul Sarte into somewhat more of a modern day prophet than he already was ... Huis Clos. Hell is indeed other people. ;P - -- grok

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-06 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Grok sez: As the smoke cleared, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Ever since Iran reportedly accumulated

Re: [Vo]:OT-OT-OT A special sandbox for special people

2009-03-07 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The fun begins: As the smoke cleared, OrionWorks svj.orionwo...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Ok, Grok, I've decided it's worth my time to try to participate in a conversation with you - at least for now. Perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Energy News of the Weird: Denmark tilting at windmills

2009-03-07 Thread grok
, this doesn't obviate the need for more local, independent, 'off-grid' sources as well. The Grid is the fallback backup system for everyone. - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get your news analysis

Re: [Vo]:OT-OT-OT A special sandbox in Grok's Honor

2009-03-07 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You know, this is the modus operandi of the secret police too, BTW. Just thought you should know what (intellectual) company you keep. - -- grok. As the smoke cleared, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net mounted the barricade and roared out

Re: [Vo]:OT-OT-OT A special sandbox for special people

2009-03-07 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Cynthia McKenny??!? Oh my gawd, she is such an embarrassment to my hometown of Atlanta! You're quite the philistine, aren't you, fella? I didn't read

Re: [Vo]:OT-OT-OT A special sandbox for special people

2009-03-07 Thread grok
of trying to get email thru to the early Internet by way of the UUCP/Bitnet gateway too. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru

Re: [Vo]:OT-OT-OT A special sandbox for special people

2009-03-07 Thread grok
, Learn to paint red tractors. Enjoy your barricade building, comrade Grok. Bye bye. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks Proving exactly nothing. Except your extreme ignorance on the matter, and apparent rather narrow sense of self-satisfaction

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: This would be similar to the fact that many people are obese because they they can get far more sugary food than was available to our ancestors.

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
are obvious to anyone with a brain. Implications, eh? Like the implications of how why this stuff is getting from wherever it comes from -- and down everybody's pie-hole, like fatted geese being force-fed with a funnel..? - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok, the reason is that either out of malice or disregard there are businesses (people) who are happy to hurt people, make them sick and kill them

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-08 Thread grok
their claims on all our past, present and future resources into their offshore accounts, etc., there will never be the resources available to do much of anything worthwhile. Like saving the Earth. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-08 Thread grok
plain rotten at its core. Even if you have money. It does not bring out the best in people - -- despite much propaganda to the contrary. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE

Re: [Vo]:Lots of people reading Claytor today

2009-03-09 Thread grok
. I've never had that request before. Ever. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews: UNfair UNbalanced * * Get mediaworx for your group/Internet/pirate tv/radio station! * Critical endorsement only

Re: [Vo]:Asteroid 2009 DD45

2009-03-09 Thread grok
this oft-made reasonable request with a working device..? The lack of any known response is what is giving all the skeptix a field-day. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE

[Vo]:Science series podcasts from CBC

2009-03-09 Thread grok
and its history, etc. (aside from, of course, the inevitable -- and telling -- blindspots so invariable to even the enquiring bourgeois mind... ;) Youse all really might enjoy this stuff. Connect to your roots, and all that. ;P Easy MP3 downloads. 24(?) shows. - -- grok. IDEAS (show): HOW TO THINK

Re: [Vo]:Griggs finally successful... don't mention OU?

2009-03-11 Thread grok
sources at the point of application. They should be clear on this distinction. Being NASA, after all. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTTS: Organized; Ad Hoc; Anticipated; Hoped-For: * Critical endorsement only

Re: [Vo]:EEStor inventor

2009-03-11 Thread grok
too much experience with Nasty Powerful People, I have no problem believing foul play could be involved. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE * ** Critical endorsement only

Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

2009-03-11 Thread grok
Arctic pack ice cover 2 summers ago, and the near-record pack ice low last summer. For starters. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott bourgeois analysis:*Get your daily dose from the * * Pundits are propagandists

Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

2009-03-11 Thread grok
... killfiles can be a double-edged sword youse know. ;P - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE * ** Critical endorsement only * Gift-giving Year-round ** * http

Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

2009-03-12 Thread grok
right now -- and falling down the other side into who-knows-what- state... - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru these sites movements

Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

2009-03-12 Thread grok
on that, with the power at their disposal. But it's not really part of their marching orders, generally, eh? - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru

Re: [Vo]:Red Hot Lies

2009-03-12 Thread grok
that rule. - -- grok. - -- *** SOCIALISM OR BARBARISM ? *** * Capitalism wraps itself in flags of convenience * Critical * * The latest one is religious obscurantism * Support only * STEM THE ASSAULT ON MATERIALIST SCIENCE

Re: [Vo]:Stick(y) Alien Videos

2009-03-12 Thread grok
came out in the theaters. - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get your news analysis * * MASS-MEDIA:* from the Best on the Web * Critical endorsement only

Re: [Vo]:promoting CF

2009-03-14 Thread grok
is in fact your biggest obstacle. Unfortunately, most all of you are entirely wedded to supporting this system, whatever it costs you. There Is No Alternative, after all. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * NO ONE LEFT BEHIND: Free all U.S

Re: [Vo]:Inflation Ho!

2009-03-18 Thread grok
love that delusional capitalist mentality. Still winning at craps on the deck of the S.S. Titanic... - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA* RSS/XML newsfeeds from around * * Use these links in RSS readers

Re: [Vo]:Inflation Ho!

2009-03-19 Thread grok
transfer payments. If only it were created out of thin air. In fact it is being taken from your grandchildren and greatgrandchildren. Harry And that's why we're having a revolution, mister: we're not going to put up with this crap any longer. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:CBC Radio show:Science and Common Sense

2009-03-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: grok took another big drink of the cool aide and wrote: our senses, Sajay Samuel says, we have no basis on which to question science. He argues

Re: [Vo]:CBC Radio show:Science and Common Sense

2009-03-22 Thread grok
of any understanding between us. really. And these people have made that divide abundantly clear. So, I must say that I don't really mind seeing them get taught the lesson of their lives in the next few years. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-23 Thread grok
, and publicly thank Grok. He's the only one (unless I missed a message) who responded to this. Quote, How come no one ever answers this oft-made reasonable request with a working device..? The lack of any known response is what is giving all the skeptix a field-day. Now that all this is outta

Re: [Vo]:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127131654.htm

2009-03-23 Thread grok
hairy ass...) What about all the containment vessels and tubing and equipment damaged by neutron bombardment? That's some huge mass of junk by now, ain't it? - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
lunch', as far as magnets are concerned. At least in this case. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru these sites movements

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
, by nature, makes a lousy brake..? Or even claim that braking breaks the laws of fyzix -- as proven by this ¨fact¨..? - -- grok. I'm a bit leery of messing with magnetic motors, as I remember the Greg Watson disaster from years back. But what the hell? I'll give it a listen. Lord knows I got

Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex

2009-03-24 Thread grok
these electrodes get charged with D2 in a dynamical process. Quite a delicate chain of causality there. No wonder skeptikal experimenters come up snake-eyes: they´re not even really trying. But apparently somebody in the U.S. government is not taking their eyes off this ball... - -- grok

Re: [Vo]:Inertial Propulsion

2009-03-24 Thread grok
of mass 2 units to the right. Assuming, of course, that it does work. I don't know if it does or not. --Kyle Is there an animation of this? There should be. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews

Re: [Vo]:Quad S

2009-03-24 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temal...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: A mental control system, patented by the American Arny. This will make Grok throw out his T V set. http://proliberty.com/observer/20090118.htm I

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread grok
officiously deny the truth which others understand, simply because they themselves will not see. Ultimately, of course, this is an epistemological question of the interpretation of ontological reality -- and the Ur source of a wagonload of future Phd. thesis material, feshure. ;P - -- grok

Re: [Vo]:tipping point speculation

2009-03-27 Thread grok
. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Support these progressive artists: Buy their products; Book `em! * * http://henryrollins.comHenry Rollins

Re: [Vo]:tipping point speculation

2009-03-28 Thread grok
the landfills and whatever else is polluted with industrial society's crap. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE * ** Critical endorsement only * Gift-giving Year-round

Re: [Vo]:Newsweek blogger's comments

2009-03-29 Thread grok
as it is to fall out of bed. The worst thing for them is being publicly called on their stupidity. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Boycott the Bourgeois Economy: BUY PROGRESSIVE * ** Critical endorsement only * Gift-giving

[Vo]:Antigravity device

2009-04-05 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 http://pics.nase-bohren.de/catantigrav.gif - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get your news analysis * * MASS-MEDIA:* from

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-09 Thread grok
absolutely explain the imperialists' need for the services of their MiB. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man! * thru these sites movements

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 9:31 PM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote: The U.S. petit-bourgeoisie have a hyper-trophied view of their place in the Universe

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Grok the Bot, that would be funny if: he didn't take himself so seriously. If my arguments have run off him like water off of a duck

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 9:17 AM, grok g...@resist.ca wrote: You can try all the mockery you want, fella. Worx on Fox News too, I understand. Maybe

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
a surprise. Study Marx, fella. He had a lot to say about traders -- free or any other variety. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM FIGHTBACK! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get organized * * Fight the Man

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
to avoid repeating their mistakes. Warmest regards, Terry Jury's still out there, fella. We'll see who gets the last laff. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews: UNfair UNbalanced * * Get

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com mounted the barricade and roared out: OTOH if you look at the site of the email address of Grok-the-coward-who-hides-behind-a-pen-name, it seems quite unlikely that it's a bot. (I use

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-10 Thread grok
free of industrial toxins and genetic engineering. would seem to indicate that the so-called Grok is 'way off base in sneering at attempts at finding novel ways to provide clean water to third world countries while simultaneously reducing air pollution. It would also seem to indicate

Re: [Vo]:A simple solution to reduce deforestation in developing countries

2009-04-12 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Legends in our own minds, aren't We..? (And that's the sarcastic 'We' for you literal-minded types.) - -- grok. As the smoke cleared, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net mounted the barricade and roared out: Terry Blanton wrote: Have I

Re: [Vo]:Attack of the Killer Power Trees - Kiplinger Responds

2009-04-13 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Comments? Show me the money. I'm quite skeptical that this can be a viable business. Just consider the issue of keeping the surface area of these 'leaves' free of dirt and grime. Obviously a job for nanobots. - -- grok

Re: [Vo]:Energetics Technology website features 60 Minutes preview

2009-04-18 Thread grok
of individualists, rugged or otherwise, would you now. - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get your news analysis * * MASS-MEDIA:* from the Best on the Web * Critical

Re: [Vo]:Robert Park's comments

2009-04-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seriously, he just can't bring himself to admit he has been wrong, can he? Seriously: who can..? - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * In advance of the Revolution: * Get facts get

Re: [Vo]:Robert Park's comments

2009-04-19 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seriously, he just can't bring himself to admit he has been wrong, can he? Seriously: who can..? - -- grok. If you check the archives you will find that it does happen on this list occasionally. Must be as rare as pixie dust. Or CF

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

2009-04-20 Thread grok
J.P. Morgan Co. pulled the plug (so to speak) on Nikola Tesla: because they came to well understand that such teknology WILL 'pull the plug' on a LOT more than just the power grid and the electrical companies... This IS truly revolutionary stuff. - -- grok. - -- *** SOCIALISM

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

2009-04-20 Thread grok
Market -- and all other irrationalities and encrustations, like religion, etc. -- will simply not survive it. Hooray for that. - --grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * Dates/Times/Places: * Access these activist calendars

Re: [Vo]:Living proof that there is doubt

2009-04-20 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Mike Carrell mi...@medleas.com mounted the barricade and roared out: grok is indeed a Stranger in a Strange Land Let's see how patronizing you people are when you need to trundle your wheelbarrow out of your garden shed just

Re: [Vo]: 60 Minutes - One intelligent critique.

2009-04-22 Thread grok
not even try to read a few documents or reviews. My response is to suggest they read the answers that have already been posted on www.LENR.org and not waste time trying to answer each question. Welcome to the world of politix. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE

Re: [Vo]:60 Minutes versus the American Physical Society

2009-04-25 Thread grok
any endorsement, no matter how indirect. So imagine the great fun you will have, writing the definitive book about all this. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-25 Thread grok
..? You do not solve the problem of capitalist vested interests by turning to the agents of the same capitalist vested interests for a 'solution'. Talk about double negatives. Or maybe double talk. ;P - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-25 Thread grok
. Jeff First off: it is entirely the logic of capitalist ekonomix which causes capitalist ekonomik crises. Second: anything which gets people working will be a vast improvement over the insane enforced idleness which the above 'logic' hog-ties us to. - -- grok. - -- Build the North

Re: [Vo]:Extinct creature still alive?

2009-04-26 Thread grok
. when vertebrates weren't all so different from invertebrates. And then again -- it could be a put up job. Look at the source. ;P - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power

[Vo]:Nanobes not microbes

2009-04-26 Thread grok
. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Vo]:60 Minutes versus the American Physical Society

2009-04-26 Thread grok
edition, then. And thanx for that URL. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-26 Thread grok
arrays and solar chimneys, etc. Lower costs come with mass-production and are not an issue, AFAIC. And there are no inherent pollution issues AFAIC, either -- tho' these do exist today under present profit-grubbing ekonomik regimes. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General

Re: [Vo]:WSJ blog notes 60 Minutes

2009-04-26 Thread grok
operates. All ruling classes, for that matter. So indeed: the CF/etc. problem is actually far more a politikal one than a scientifik one. And this all-too-common pathology has even been playing out on this very eList, oddly enuff... ;P - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General

Re: [Vo]:WSJ blog notes 60 Minutes

2009-04-26 Thread grok
society, he is rewarded. This behavior can only be controlled by integrity. No, you control it by seizing the banx, and expropriating the banksters. It's real simple, actually. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread grok
infrastrukture projekt like that is reason enuff for Socialism. ; Of course, the reality of cold-fusion-in-a-can would change that dynamik considerably. ;P - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils

Re: [Vo]:WSJ blog notes 60 Minutes

2009-04-27 Thread grok
by-and-large actually are (in the present social setup), as people and as professionals. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread grok
. Controlled energy, that is. ;P - --grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread grok
superconducting DC cables were the way to go there. Seriously. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread grok
made more efficient, as teknology advances and resources are made available. And that's only part of the equation, of course. But I wonder what the numbers actually are/would be. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-27 Thread grok
breakthrough in high temperature superconductivity to significantly reduce the cost. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk That's the ideal. But even nitrogen cooling is way cheaper than helium. 'Regular' refrigeration even moreso. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO

Re: [Vo]:Not what Algore wanted to hear

2009-04-28 Thread grok
be greater than the advantage of supercondutivity. Room temperature superconductivity remains a goal, not a reality. Sorry, grok. Hey, I'm sorry too, Carrell. For all those deluded engineers out there, and all those other deluded people footing their bills. - -- grok. - -- Build the North

Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-04-28 Thread grok
anymore. - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power to the councils and communes. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux

Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-04-28 Thread grok
box had Luther's 95 Theses nailed to its lid. And of course I'm not making the slightest allusions to anything here. ;P - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y las comunas. TOUT le pouvoir aux conseils et communes. ALL power

Re: [Vo]:[OT] H1N1 Synchronicity

2009-04-28 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Neither did I allude to Stalin. Nor I to Hitler. ; - -- grok. - -- Build the North America-wide General Strike. TODO el poder a los consejos y

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