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As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell <[email protected]> mounted the barricade and roared out: > grok wrote: > > >Gawd... if I got a slip of Monopoly money for every time I've had > >socialism/communism -- or capitalism -- patiently "explained" to me (or > >not) by a petit-bourgeois, I'd never have to buy toilet paper ever > >again... > > We are not all petit-bourgeois, and it is possible that some of us > know more about some aspects of this situation than you do. For > example, I probably know more about medical care in Japan than you do. Actually, you most all seem quite petit-bourgeois to me -- mentality-wise anyway (and for that matter: aren't all U.S. workers "middle-class" these days..?) And if you are not being exploited for your surplus-value -- well, all the more so. As for what you or I or anyone does or doesn't know specifically: that's somewhat of a non sequitur in this discussion, isn't it..? And for the record: I certainly don't pretend to be deeply knowledgable about Over-Unity, or much else in these technical fields. > It is a mistake to judge an idea by judging the background or > economic status the person who presents it, rather than by > considering the merits of the idea itself. > > - Jed No, it's wrong to be ad hominem -- quite another thing. The class orientation of the speaker can -- and often is -- to-the-point. But it is in the nature of Late Capitalist U.S. culture to deny absolutely everything about class. - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *************************************** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA * RSS/XML newsfeeds from around * * Use these links in RSS readers * the planet: Who needs CNN/Fox? * **** Critical endorsement only **** Most sites need donations **** * http://rss.newstandardnews.net/envirohealth_1.xml Enviro & Health* * http://cat.radicaldesigns.org/rssfeed.php Stop Caterpillar * * http://auto_sol.tao.ca/taxonomy/feed/or/135 Autonomy & Solidarity* * http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/atom.xml CANNONFIRE * * http://www.indybay.org/syn/newswire.rss SF Bay Area Indymedia * *** When the banks do well you can be sure the people aren't *** GPG fingerprint = 2E7F 2D69 4B0B C8D5 07E3 09C3 5E8D C4B4 461B B771 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJo0DuXo3EtEYbt3ERApzEAKDLcQN8HB/mLfWf1qQQzohqRjFOWgCeI6Lc K/xl78X4fveXEkLf2+f7N3o= =5Fwq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
