Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
Lets forget the White Demo Rats for now, and concentrate more on a somewhat evil menacing horrrific looking species of parasitic cockroach. It's (im)proper scientifically called Africahoonus Amoongus or more simply A Fricken American Hating Thugly Ugly Mugly Cruddy Scuzzy Slug Bug. Currently, very little is actually known about it, but seems to have one purpose, which is to extract as much as possible out of it's victims, and/or the human population. This creepy crawly parasitic menace tends to be highly destructive, and also seems to have the ability to inflict it's victims with an overwhelming feeling of guilt. It would appear as tho this all-knowing high mighty King Cockroach is ordained or blessed with the power to decide whether or not human beings have contributed enough of their vital fluids or livelyhood to the infested-nation now taking place. Be warned, if you have been fortunate enough not to have set eyes upon this ghastly hideous grotesque rather clammy cold disease spreading creature, you'll need to be prepared. It will likely send chills down your spine, and may even make you convulse (as oppose to converse) and/or until you choke vomit. The first time I inadvertently saw this irreprehensible looking over-grown parasitic insect, I wanted to take smash the TV set w/ a baseball batt, but then I realized that that is exactly what this dark multi-limbed invader wants. Also, you should be aware that The Whitey House has been infested with a army of sub-cockroaches, who're under the spell of the King Cockroach, which goes by the name of BO or the Prz ya, daaas ihhh suckah!. Now, BO duh Preeez, gives off a very distinky odor, which really shouldn't be confused with too many of the other shadowy dark creatures, which may resemble it. The burnt black color (for me) tends to make me think of what a typical poor excuse of a human being might look after an unclear holocause. Well, thats all for now, maybe we'll talk again after the E-L-E-C-T-I-O-N, that enables a Truly Respectable Free American Human Being to be voted in, as opposed to a low life punk a$$ overgrown honky dinkey donkey monkey w/ a thugly nose flaring nostrils phony attitude w/ dog-eaten purple lips of a two-bit Illegal Alien that only aspires to remain in-power as the Country's Ruling Dictator. Thank you. Respectfully, Loren. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
As in LENDER Low Energy Nuclear Disaster Eventually Running. Off topic pdx...@gmail.com (Jeff Berkowitz) /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Whence Willard?
This is for all the devoted Demo-rats, which can be confused with a small furry rodent that lives in subways sewers, and can spread diseases to the human population. The Rats used in many laboratories along with it's less-developed Mouse cousin (of which are the first to develope/evolve after the E.L.E. 65 million years ago) are used in various experiments and adapted to man-made enclosed environment that cause it's genes to mutate or grow White Hair or Fur. Their purpose is to aid human beings in their plight to live healthy or free from deadly viruses or bacteria that can transform into more serious diseases, or a plague. Sadly, for many of these somewhat cuddley little virmen producing creatures, it's too late, because they're unaware of their demise about to be administered to them via endless testing of pain tolerances and/or extreme conditons for endurance, of which usually leads to a shortened lifespan. Their Wanabe Chemosloppy BO Bwana From Kenyya Nairobi, that thinks highly of himself and/or either as a Man, or a President, is actually a terrorist-loving anti-whitey-american, anti-economy, anti-freedom, or anti due-process, anti justice, and/or anti everything this Country means, represents, or stands for, except maybe for what has enabled the malodorous BO to mingle in with a so-called community of people that befriended Mr Stinkey One. These useful tools would go on to serve BO's purpose, because they simply couldn't resist the overpowering spell put upon them. BO filled them with anger resentment even hatred toward the humans their establishment. They were under a hypnotic trance-like mindless state of obedience, having no choice but to Support this Greatly Disappointed Self Annointed Messiah Genius w/ a IQ so high, it couldn't' even be measured. Yeah anyway, so, looking back on BO's history of how he had managed to navigate the tree tops into this Country, starting all the way back in his original birth place in Kenya Africa, as just a wee small innocent primate learning how to recognize and/or detest whitish looking skin he was born to a Whitey Mother, which tends to be a certain undesireable color thats associated with intelligence and/or characteristic of a civilized human being. BO's Father's side of the Family Clan mostly regarded these very unnatural traits as being offensive, unacceptable and/or unapproved of, and so, the actual truth of what happened to his BO's Whitey Mother is w/o transparency and/or likely involved some type of foul-play, or some way in which muzzleheaded piritives deal with troubling issues. Now, early on in BO's life, Big Oil Banking (Big Money) had essentially taken him Out Of Africa into a certain area of Jacarta Indonesia, where he went to school and learned the lame teachings of the correct way to stone, torture, or kill people, and/or earned a Degree in Dictatorship. From there he moved to another upscale white dis-liking or despising residence in Hawaii, where he obtained his highly prized (much like the White House) forged birth certificate. Back in that time-period, the State of Hawaii had somewhat lapsed loopholds or laws that enabled those seeking illegalcitizenship the opportunity to obtain a forged birth certificate, and so, BO's Uncle (a genuine card-carrying communist) being a Legal (?) Guardian, had taken BO there for the specific purpose of establishing citizenship of America, the evil empire,,, which was the apple of BO's eye! Now, looking into BO's past since illegally misoccupying this Country... he spent a lot of his time fitting-in with the so-called people, and proceeded to learn of their gullible ways. He began to organize their efforts, and acquired much support for his noble effort to gain power by rnnning for a senate seat (test run). He had his sight set on the Presidency, because he was sure
[Vo]:[OT]: HAC's Spacecraft in Solar System
I have recently determined that at least 10,000 HAC's (Highly Advanced Civilization's) Spacecraft are currently operating thruout the inner regions of our(?) Solar System at various locales. I have determined this number be fairly accurate number, essentially because of my continuous nighttime observations of both the immediate space above us, and considerably farther at thousands of miles away, 10's of thousands, 100's of thousands, and millions of miles. As I said before, many of these craft have what I refer to as a bulb-like dome on the underside that can be as dim or faint as a distance observable (w/ the unaided eye) Star, Or, can light up as bright or brighter as a landing light on a typical plane about to land at a nearby airport. Over the years, I have witnessed *those* lights up there that have displayed any number of maneuvers and/or coordinated the effects thereof that had literally altered my focus of attention, consciousness, or mind, altogether. I won't go in to every last detail of what I've seen going on up there, but I'll say this there is a whole absolute thorough complete *other* means by which a vast indepth, detailed, intracate, precise, exact, amount of information is instantly transferred thru-out space. This *other* very highly advanced complex sophisticated technology is so very capable and/or operating in such an altogether different capacity that We can only regard it as unbelievable or impossible. I know that it Is indeed quite a difficult thing for just about everyone who reads this to think I *know* what I'm trying to say here, but, I cannot disregard or deny what I have continually seen over the years up in Space, and just how attuned *they* are to this world we live on or in and/or around us. I can only say it this way... the God we tend to believe in, or not,,, is in essence a spiritual one BUT it's based on technology so very highly perfected sophisticated, that Ourkind simply put, can hardly tell the difference, let alone fully understand it. For me personally, I am somewhat almost elated and even content in knowing that a whole complete other ungodly world of being exists in space w/o end. To think, that this has already been thoroughly accomplished only god knows how many unworldly civilizations out there in space time, as we live breath and die down here, well, it just plain squashes me to the point that I feel flat. The only trouble I have right now with all of this is that I can't essentially for all intents purposes, do anything with it. The One Only System enabling *them* to be up there and operating in the ungodly sophisticated capacity they (in)obviously are, will require 10,000 of our most qualified Engine-ears, Sigh'n-tists, Fizz-assists devoting their lives and evry onuce of their expertise to it's development,,, and then it's just a relatively mind boggling matter of eliminating this biologically hazardous we refer to cellular reproduction, flesh, blood, organs, nerves, senses, etc, etc., and, we're as free as a bird... no, it's a plane... no, it's a UFO w/ very scarey looking humanoid creatures on board. The Fact of the matter is that You (being a human being) simply can't handle the rather (not so) simple little Fact about what's up there right here now, but it's why you hear and/or think about Aliens, Science Fiction, Bug Eyed Monsters, Robots, or any everything that keep you from *knowing* the truth about a subject that literally would blow you away, and/or off the surface of the earth!... *They* take no prisoners, and Youare on your own down here. *They* can of course motivate you in the right direction, and/or, can so coordinate or manipulate the world around us, so as to work to our advantage, Or, it could all go south! Thank you, for your Patron-age. Loren
Re: [Vo]:A Halloween scare for real
Yeah whatever you might want to consider keeping your animals out of plain sight should BO visit your neighborhood, because it's a given that his appetite isn't limited to just Dog yummy!. Oh!, don't forget that BO's IQ is so HI that it's literally off the charts (actually, it never got on) (Case in point) BO used his immense IQ to conjure up Hurricane Sandy, for policitcal reasons, just before an election. If you had watched the news, it was plain to see that our beloved BO is committed to helping the many people involved in the devastating aftermath of Sandy.. As in the case of the Embassy Terrorist Attack back in September in Benghazi, of which, had been planned weeks in-advance, by our early prehistoric animal people relatives. It was carried-out with such savage brutality, you undoubtedly were quite excited by the progress being made over there, and can't wait to see more!. It takes one to know one. BTW, my two kitties Zoey Charm wish the channel the following message: Boo! Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Hurricane Sandy and the cost of the 1960s space program
All of the Astronomers Scientists and what-have-you are confused and/or just flatout plain wrong about what is going-on out in deep space, in the universe All you have to do is *Realize* that Highly Advanced Civilizations Spacecraft have a bulblike dome of their underside that can Light Up quite bright for extended periods of time,,, and so, you being the very naturally grounded technologically undeveloped handicapped incapable being that you clearly are, can begin to understand the relative importance of the amount of time you have on this good old Earth in orbit around this Star, all *They* have to do is Switch off the Light (which can easily mimic a star) that to you appears be out in deep space, of which, will make you Think... thus motivating you in the right direction to persue a more capable reliable means or mode of technology that will someday enable you to avoid your inevitable earthly demise! Dark matter orbits around and through regular matter creating.halos. You are seeing massive dark matter in a chaotic multi-body orbit with these stars. The halo is its path. Unfortunately I just realized that some, not all halos on earth (rainbows) are showing us the elliptical orbit of dark matter. They freeze the water particles passing thru their orbital path and create prisms in the air to diffract light. They appear during/after storms because they created the low pressure system to begin with. Enjoy those types of rainbows but do not walk/drive underneath, a sinkhole may open up or you may succumb to uncertainty. You heard it here first... Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Tuesday, October 30, 2012, Terry Blanton wrote: Recent dark matter news for Stewie: http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/1024/Gigantic-invisible-cocoons-of-dark-matter-may-suck-up-rogue-stars /HTML
Re: [Vo]:A Halloween scare for real
So, for all of you out there who have feelings or emotional attachment for Appliances Power Tools, Suv, Car, Truck, Motor Cycle, Bike, Garden Tractor, ATV, Computer, various Electronic Devices, and/or for that matter, inanimate objects that have added comfort, satisfaction, confidence, or pleasure (god forbid), or even held you in a state of bliss, over the years,,, (in addition) if you have rather strong deep-felt emotions for animals and especially those exiotic aniimals (which in many situations, should not be regarded as pets, unless they are appropriately provided-for w/ suitable space an environment or a cage, or which only a Zoo can typically provide), then, YOU will need to realize that you're between a rock and a hard place. Someday, in the not too distant future, all the existing technology of that time will be Very Smart,,, as well, the people who occupy operate society and that technology by which it is survived... however, one thing that any real actual human being should even think about doing at this point in time, is to re-empower the current so-called President It's of vital importance that any illegal alien or exotic animal (especially one that can fool masses of people who tend to have a strong connect with animals) NOT be put in any position of power and/or where human beings live sare on the line. IF any of you ut there are indeed Democrats, then you simply have to know that it is not possible for any animal to observe or recognize those things that only a human being can. Please remember, that human beings are separate from animals, and IF you take off your blinders (that BO has applied to your face) and take a hard look at where the smiling phony now masquerading and/or parading around in the Whitey House has been, prior to sliming his way into this Country, and during,,, you'll find that he has strong ties (only) with people (?) that either despise humans, their ways, society and/or country, and especially that ther're Giving, Compassionate, Fair, Just, Gullible Naive and/or just plain weak minded, and will literally bend over backwards to show how happy they are to remain that way. Thanks suckers! PS.. If you believe there is an actual Democratic Party or that BO cares about this Country, in any manner, way, shape, or form, except for pilaging, plundering, and/or destroying it, for his own personal gain,,, I guarantee you, you will get your fair share... and then some! The Atlantic sets the stage for the 'scary season' (the election, not Halloween) with a piece on machine intelligence, echoing Bill Joy's classic article http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/10/the-consequences-of-ma chine-intelligence/264066/ No Joy here: Why the Future Doesn't Need Us http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html And now that the Governator is back on the streets, and the real Terminator is being perfected faster than suspected ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFGfq0pRczYfeature=etp-pd-nxx-62 W Just in time for the LENR power module to make it fully autonomous (as long as it avoids metal stamping presses)... ... so all in all - I'd have to opine that future is pretty scary, even without hundreds of little gremlins and witches prowling the streets with bags full of candy... and the scare may not be that far away - no matter who gets elected. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:A Halloween scare for real
Yeah well, needless to say I obviously have some difficulty explaining the difference between animals and human beings, and it's undoubtedly due to a large percentage of my monkey DNA. Now, as for Halloween, and why humans tend to wear a variety of frightening looking attire, and the more traditional costumes, to reflect certain time periods in the founding of this Country,,, we need to keep in mind that Animals are mostly unable to partake in this human festive/activity, because they instinctively or automatically know that they could be the subject of that, which tends to lurk in the shadows. Fear not tho, because now that BO and his Clan has trampled or stampeded their way into the illfated Whitey House, and showed all the humans just how transparent they are, we must no longer concern ourselves about those who have been spooked for so long, just because they're esentially animals. So, all you humans out there, be sure to point the finger at only yourselves, and never at an animal, because they're neither guilty nor innocent, and/or cannot be held responsible for their very attractive animal-like reactions. IF you point a finger at them, you could send them into a rampage, and result in you being attacked and/or having your face ripped off. So whatever you do be very careful this Halloween, because if you get your face ripped of, you might have your Identity stolen, or worse, replaced with a monkey. I know, I know, there isn't much difference when you come right down to it anyway, so whats the big deal. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:[OT]: Sun Becomes Red Giant, w/ Insatiable Appetite
It's Universal, but likely exclusive only to civilizations that have technologically progressed to an seemingly ripe old age and/or existence for a 100 million years or so, and/or in a category of would be considered Very Advanced. Now, as far along as you can imagine that a civilization a 100 million old may be, by comparison, they would be considered only a whippersnapper by a civilization that is in the billion yr plus range... and so, I think you can get the idea of just how advanced a civilization might be and/or the capacity in which they are operating In Space, In The Absolute ever thereafter! What I have learned from using my senses, which I might refer to as a Heightened Sense of Awareness is that (not only) *Light* is being coordinated in an exceedingly fast manner, to captivate, manipulate, motivate, entice, lure and/or drive civilization, but, the Real Science being conducted in all the labs behind closed doors performing the RD and establishing all the technical data, Have, Are, Always will be pushed or guided by the ever growing demanding populace, which is doing it's part to keep the wheel of progress and/or flow of resources going, so progress continues. To me it's absolutely amazing, yet fully understandable, how almost No One down here of good old out-done/dated earth would likely even care to believe yet alone *know* what has happened to us, and/or this human mode of being, as opposed to *that* which Has Been, Currently Is, and more than highly likely Always Will Be, Up In Space like We will never even hope to imagine. Now, I could fully elaborate on this whole complete issue, but then, giving it all away, is all but meaningless, unless you take some *real* time to fully appreciate just what has been accomplished over countless millions of years out in space time, and/or thruout the universe A Highly Advanced State of Being, so sophisticated, that it's operating not just outside of our abilities, but in it, all at the same time, ALL w/o us barely having a clue, let alone *know* it's going on. We aren't even close to being a whippersnapper, and, you could hardly imagine just how far along, that actually is It's Eons Ago! and that essentially means that We don't even exist So maybe, that'll give you something to chew on, and instead of just spending the rest of your life wondering whether or not there's any real difference between Science Fiction, from *Real* Science?. In a word, it's Ungodly (for this rather simple little human race in space in time) and it's all we can handle, for now. Which channel are you tuned to, Loren. I can't find it in my TV Guide. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks /HTML
[Vo]:[OT]: Sun Becomes Red Giant, w/ Insatiable Appetite
So, it looks as if our Sun will more than likely over the course of the 100's of millions years made Life On Earth very difficult if not impossible,,, but, of course by then, due to our ever determination drive to make strides in the development of vastly more capable and/or efficient technology, will ultimately enable us to have become all-but completely independent of this pending natural world of doom. So, you can take some time and enjoy the world around you, but you may also want to keep in mind that Time can Fly By quite fast, and before you know it, a 100 million years has already gone by. While it appears that you don't immediately need be too concerned about what happens 5 Billion years from now, keep in mind that it's highly likely countless civilizations thruout the Galaxies thruout the Universe have already out-done and/or out-lived their Star Systems. (I realize this News is extremely Old,,, but my mind is going, so it will all be new to me! NASA Science News for Oct. 25, 2012 Astronomers have caught a red giant star apparently in the act of devouring one of its planets. It could be a preview of what will happen to Earth five billion years from now. FULL STORY: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/25oct_friedplanets/ VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21RkSui1cG8 You are currently subscribed to snglist as: lorenhe...@aol.com. This is a free service/HTML
Re: [Vo]:Aliens Favour Romney
Yeah, I suppose you could say that we're all aliens, except that Obama is an illegal Alien, now fraudulently serving as the President (I'm so proud). Of course there alot of so-called people in this country here illegally, and Obama is in good company. BO is an expert when it comes to appealing to many different groups all at the same time with one comment, like when he says that being apart of the radical movement of the 60's in his DNA. I mean, when you look at where this man(?) had been before he weasled his way into this country, you just know he was a born loser, uh, I mean leader. It doesn't take anyone with a single brain cell to know that it's just good old common sense to vote for a legal citizen and/or human being to run the Country, instead of all the gullible peasants committing their life to the empowering of a two bit Dictator. (Pt...Romney is with the Romulans. Obama is a Klingon, much more thugly) It looks like Aliens (interstellar types) favour Romney for President. http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/romney-temp/ /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Meteorite in NW Louisiana
Just to clarify a Meteorite is more-or-less a piece, chunk, and/or remnant of debris that has traveling around in space possibly since the early cataclysmic formation of this solar system, or even from another one... and, how would you know? So now, because It Came From Outerspace and quite likely contains significant information about our earthly human origin, it therefore is of significant value. I don't remember off-hand what the dollar per-ounce figure is for an average meteorite, but, it doesn't take much to realize that it's worth a heck of alot more than the same amount of earth and so, it might be said that Earth may be very common thruout the Galaxies thruout the Universe, and might not even fetch a plug nickle. Now, I'd just like to finish by saying that no matter how insignificant we might be, I still feel relatively important special, and maybe even a legend in my mind. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Is Steve Jobs in Hell?
You know of course that as individually naturally impaired human beings, we tend to have alot of difficulty getting our information even somewhat accurate, so, I wouldn't be too quick to think that a human being might be in hell, just because this planet earth happens to be the 3rd world from the Sun, which of course consists largely of a third world mentality of which many would love to see this country and the modern civilized world burn in hell... So, Praise Obama!... as only he can save us from this horrible evil (or, he's directly involved in it, if not totallyI really have to wonder, especially considering where this man (?) is from). Maybe, it'll help to think (that should be against the law) of it like this a Non, In, or Subhuman tends to have a low to no mentality, and so basically it's relatively simple matter of monkey see, monkey doo doo. Now, all you have to do is to take some time to learn the difference from how a real human thinks behaves, as opposed to one that can imitate one. While many human beings among us strongly connect or bond with their long lost fellow Monkey-like bretheren cousins and tend to regard each other as intelligent and/or human-like in their behavior, not to mention capable of performing duties in a similar fashion, one absolutely must remember that it Can Not ever hope to work in the best interest of Humans. http://blastr.com/2012/10/what-did-psychic-medium-d.php A medium reaches out to Jobs. Excerpt: The most loaded question of all has to be Is Steve Jobs in hell? And while the respectful answer that delves into how a spirit has to struggle with who they were in order to find out where they go next is nice, we kind of just assumed Steve's answer would be Have you seen the iPhone 5 debacle? You bet your sweet bippy I'm in hell! more, the answer is midway through the vid /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Meteorite in NW Louisiana
I saw a meteor a couple of nights ago to the west of my location here in Reno, Nv.. It was somewhat bright but not too, and lasted for maybe all of 3 to 4 seconds. It was traveling quite fast, like a meteor, and would likely have covered a distance of maybe 500 mi's or so. It (in)obviously appeared to have traveled in a NE to SW direction. It left *no* vapor trail and/or didn't appear to burn-up upon entering the atmosphere as would typically be expected. I've seen many so-called meteors over the years that left *no* vapor trail. One time, I saw one just as it was entering the atmosphere, very fast like a meteor, but quickly exploded, w/o any sound. On more than a half a dozen times, over the years, I saw the more obvious ones that burned w/ a bright greenish color, and/or traveled quite a distance and fizzled out with a white sparkler-like effect. All of the so-called meteors that I've seen over the years which didn't emit any vapor trail, appeared more (in)obviously as a Light being switched off, and not as a result of anything burning from any natural spin-off or exploded debris that was traveling around in space for millions or billions of years... To me, there's a big difference!. Looks like it might have been fairly significant: http://www.ksla.com/story/19828119/authorities-investigate-loud-boom http://lunarmeteoritehunters.blogspot.com/ /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Meteorite in NW Louisiana
So anyway, whenever you happen to hear of a loud sonic boom that may or may not have been associated with a Meteorite entering the astmosphere, it might have only been caused by a next-door neighbor's clumsyness, or some accident-prone person just trying to do some everyday ordinary unfamiliar thing, or maybe it was a worn out vehicle or motorcycle that backfired, or maybe a Terrorist moved in across the street and hasn't quite refined his Bomb making skills, or maybe it's Our Great Wanabe Dictator BO stinking up the dumb gullible Whitie House, as he plans to suck it and this Country dry, and/or the entire world.. this man (?) really sucks Ha Ha! Whatever the case, you should remember that it's our nature to take great comfort in all the sounds in this natural world, and/or the disasterous catastrophic obtrusive chaotic loud yakity rakity spine-shivering rather horrific noise that ourkind tends to make (tee hee). /HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT: Mars Rover Spots Small Bright- Metallic Object
Now, I know everyone down here on good 'old earth tends to have high hopes for the existence of another civilization, or that may have once upon a time visited Mars or Earth. We all know it's really just a long shot in trying to verify the existence of other intelligent beings such as ourselves ( thank you), but, you also know it's highly unlikely that we are so special that we're the only ones in the universe,,, which, for the most part are forgetful, clumsy, careless, accident prone, and/or just human (tee hee). I think you need to keep in-mind that while we're Only Human or Imperfect, and/or To Error/Air is Human,,, that that essentially means We (as in outdated or done, history-in-the-making, archaic, by-gones, dinosaurs, obsolete) Are No More!. So, what can we hope to accomplish in learning of *someone* else that has perfected a State of Technological Immortal Being, In Space, Among The Stars, Forever more? All any one of us down here is able to say is that They don't believe it,,, that is of course not until *It* is fully known,,, which of course, won't be for at least 10 million years,, better still, a 100 Million years (just to be sure, and, I'm not real sure about that either,,, so, make it a Billion. I'm shocked, shocked I say. ;-) Thanks Jed. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: False alarm. It was a piece of plastic that fell off the Rover. - Jed /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Spider and wasp in amber
In a message dated 10/10/12 9:21:48 AM EST, jedrothw...@gmail.com writes: You may have seen this in the news. It is a spectacular fossil in amber: http://mynorthwest.com/764/1319676/Eatus-interruptus They even found strands of spider web. - Jed /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Spider and wasp in amber
I knew it!... proof of an early elementary stage in the technological development of mankind. An electronic device known as a computer was used to communicate via a Web, which had likely snared the Wasp as it was attempting to catch the Spider, to use as a host for food for it's young... How gruesome things were back then, but, that's Nature for you! You may have seen this in the news. It is a spectacular fossil in amber: http://mynorthwest.com/764/1319676/Eatus-interruptus They even found strands of spider web. - Jed /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Evidence V1 Has Left the Sol System
Don't worry, in about 10 thousand years or so (if we act now) we will have developed UFO Technology that will enable us catch up with V1 and retrieve it before it reaches another Star System w/ intelligent life. That way we can spare our ourselves and/or our civilization the humiliating embarassment of being responsible for it. I mean, just think what our technology of today would look to someone only 100,000 years from now, not to mention a Million, or 10 or a 100 million, or even Billions!... Altho I try not to think about it, I just can't help but be overwhelmed with a feeling of being small insignificant, kinda like an insect. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Lets see now, after my interpreting or translating Jojo's many messages concerning the ill ways of Liberalism in these United States of America, I believe I have a fairly clear understanding of intentions. Now, seeing how you have stated at least several time that you live outside of this Country, it has literally forced me into thinking that you might be associated with a group of thoughtful caring loving giving heart tugging sobbing emotional sad unfortunate misgivings and/or stories about Nigerians and their struggles and therefor the reason why you have been offering up various $ums of inheritence money among other scemes that lure or entice gullible people in this Country into giving up as much of theirs, to get it? . I can onl assume that those on the left don't contribute nearly as much as those on the right to your rightous just nobel cause. All I can say is that I guess it serves them right for being so gullible,,, but, that still doesn't make it right, you know. And BTW, you know that in these difficult ecomical times things are getting much tighter, so maybe you need to to budget yourself just like everyone else. Also, Obama in the Out House, uh, I mean White House can only serve as a lesson to enlighten all of the gullible giving fools that occupy this Country. So, best regards to you yours in the furture, and please take what I say to heart, and try to be more understanding... (Ha!!!). /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Spoken like a true NAZIS ... with liberty justice for all (the damned) !! SIEG HEIL SIEG HEIL!!! from ; Damn-yell /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
BTW Jojo, you wouldn't happen to be related to the KilamaJARO family with a pile of (illbegotten) money the size of a Mountain... AND, the so-called Intelligent Design that you are supposedly have a third degree-in isn't just an attempt to impress the more educated professional intelligent people types here and/or those that are legally occupying and/or living working in this country? I'm also interested in what you think about Black Holes which as we all know, suck so hard that nothing, not even white-light can escape it? I'd also like your opinion of Dark Energy, as it too seems to be made up of alot of BS, and simply can't be good for any civilization in this universe and/or any other one. Also, again I must (again) address your proudly professsed and/or proclaimed (third) degree working knowledge of Intelligent Design, of which, you're obviously a strong advocate of, if not totally committed to,,, because, you've been around so long, and know that opur DNA is 99% monkey and therefore can be the only explanation for your wonderous glorious being... and/or you of course are trying to get everyone to empathize, sympathize and/or feel ed compelled to donate to your just cause, which is..??? And also, just how many alias screenames and/or accounts and/or people w/ similar intentions w/ any endless number of pitches not just here but amost everywhere in the world, are you invoved with? You see, I have this insatiable desire to learn just who's who, and/or, whats what. And, how long have you been working your way into all the websites out there, while earning the trust confidence in the unsuspecting participants, who then allow you to persuade them how knowledgeable you are? Halleuliah !!... Praise Be To The Designer !!... and, what was it again?. Oh yeah, I remember... it's that you The Great Designer, of acquiring some rather impressive amounts of $$$,$$$,$$$.$$ thruout the land have a greater purpose for all of us who realize how important it is to live by certain rules and/or viable means of government, by which, we can live truly free w/o the fear of being Ruled by a wannabe Dictator, like the one currently misoccupying this Countries ILL FADED White House! /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
BTW, I have a problem with YOUR NAME and YOU HAH HAH HAH !!! SIEG HEIL SIEG HEIL!!! from ; Damn-yell Spoken like a true NAZIS ... with liberty justice for all (the damned) !! BTW, I JUST received this email moments ago, and all I can say is that THIS is whatTrue Freedom is all about *Good day To You... How are you doing todayIt have been some couple of days now i have not receive any E-mail from you in regard to the Loan you intend to get from our company that we have already processed, but it seems as if you don't need this loan any more if you insist we can still cancel this transaction okay. You know how bad you need this loan If i may ask do you still need this loan?I will want you to get back to me as soon as possible so that we can proceed further So if you need this loan,...get back to me as soon as possible. Waiting for your Email, Thanks. On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:51 PM, lorenhe...@aol.com wrote: Hello ILLegal Loan scam operator. Tracked down your so-called business, and as I suspected, you are a fraud. You're email originated from Mt. View - Los Angeles CA. I know exactly where you live, and you are currently being persued by the authorities. You will soon likely be back in your cage, where you belong. I will come visit you and make sure you are being treated inhumanely, just like you. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Some clarification is needed... Your use of the term Coherent is haphazard at best. I'd also have to say that it's 'you' who are barely coherent. I can also safely assume that you haven't made use of those two glands (called eyes) located just above your nose to either side. If in your relatively short life you had ever spent any amount of time looking up into the night sky, you would at least have an idea of what I am talking about, as to *Other* Craft up in Space that emit Light and/or reflect it. IF you had conditioned or trained your eyes to be as keen or sharp as mine, you would be able to distinguish the relative speeds altitudes of all the Air or Jet planes from *that* which operates up in space independently of our space-junk and/or debris in the many thousands, of pieces or chunks, plus, various other Countries orbiting spacecraft, space-station, satellites, etc. etc.. So, everything I've seen over the many years, along with what I'm quite confident are numerous original authentic genuine first-hand eyewitness accounts or encounters of numerous people in all walks-of-life who have seen these craft and/or its occupants, simply put, cannot be mistaken for anything other than what it is. It comes down to a relatively simple matter of our perception abilities, and what we tend to accept as normal according to our conventional standard of thinking, understanding, wisdom, so on so forth. Even-tho the people who have witnessed these craft or occupants will typically tend to be regarded by most deceptive misleading manipulative people that are unreliable, mistaken, untrained, or whathaveyou, the hard fact remains that these encounters have occurred, are occurring, and likely will occur (as required... because you know, that word gets out, and it has a direct or indirect influence in society). The subject of UFO's (as in advanced civilizations spacecraft or technology) comes down to simple matter of a *reality* that is more real and/or capable than we are able to rationalise, at this point in time. This *other* matter will require if not demand a whole complete new approach on our part as to how energy, propulsion *being* can be all integrated highly compatably into one powerfully efficient system which can operate in a whole complete highly siphisticated capacity, 'second to none'. Most assuredly, this highly developed system/process is enabling *them* to be up there, in the absolute or without fail. The fact is that whenever one, or a few of us are confronted with these vehicles and it's occupants, it can tend to frighten the you-know-what out of us, and/or have a very profound impact, which can actually have a very real effect on society that undergoes an adjustment of a sort that is barely even recognized or acknowledged in any way. So, there you have my comments (coherency included) and if you can't understand it, then I would say the trouble lies with you and/or your ability to come to terms with a far more capable enduring mode of being and/or existence that is most certainly at least several, if not 10's 100's of millions and/or billions of years ahead of us (as in, this biologically dependent human mode of being, limited or confined essentially only to this earthbound existence). And, I also need to correct some miswording in my comment that... We are *Their* bread butter (what makes the world go round) and *They* are Ours. I would have to say that this is a fact that simply will not be fully known by this civilization until we and our whole way-of-life is long-since obsolete. I think it might helps to think of it in-terms of Progress Here you go; Now just look at the amount of time that has transpired that lead up to our current human being, from all the way from the time of
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Now please, whatever you do, DON'T try to tell me that the Great Annointed Messiah of a Wannabe Dictator is a Mathematical Genius, because he knows exactly how to con, swindle, bribe, coerce, corrupt, and threaten every gullible naive weak minded fool and/or tax payer, and ALL for the chance to watch this Countries first truly fraud fake illegal illegitimate imposter as he travels about the world on his holy fundraising tour, golfing, shopping, anti sentiment speeches that generally denounce America because it's people haven't given everything away to all the low life slime that tends infest the planet. Heres what we currently have misoccupying Our illfaded White House (illegally). BO (the monkey genius posing as a man) is King because he has been granted dominion over all Human Beings by Allah The Almighty Dallah, and/or Mahominid the greatest Virgin keeper or Molester to ever walk among animals. First, we all must remember that our great illegitimate leader while spending millions of taxpayer dollars to keep all his records sealed, while being a strong proponent for everyone that runs for the Presidency should reveal theirs (lets see, double standard apply here, or how about pure hypocracy). Now then, lets consider where BO comes from - a part of Africa close to where Mogabi The Thugly Ruler confiscated everything from the Whities and ousted them, of which all went to hell and now have to import everything(sounds promising!). Now, at about the age of 6, BO traveled to Indonesia to learn about the stoned age teachings of muzzleheaded brotherhood and shria law and/or how to partake in the destruction of the modern civilized world. Then at the age of 11 it was off to Hawai to obtain his forged birth certificate so he could infiltrate America and become friendly with some easily influenced gullible fools so he could begin on his road to success. Lets see now what exacttly we have misoccupying the Illfaded White House, an anti American who essentially despises rules regulations laws anything that a civilized truly free intelligent human being does, and/or Our way of life. Once here BO then attended (?) Law School, essentially, to use it against the people of this country. He partook in all the things that regular good old black folks do, and he also got in thick with a White terrorist named Bill Airhead (BO's idol), and Rev. Wrong, and all the more respected leders that seem to take naturally to hating this Country, (mainly (because We The People are not truly of the Animal Kingdom). Now then, BO obtained a Senator Seat (because of his lust for power) and was well on his way to weaseling his way into the Political System. He was already a great Communist, uh, rather I mean, Community Organizer and so naturally his next move was to run for the Presidency, where of course he could turn this Country into his own personal zoo. So now, we've had almost 4 wonderful years of total complete BS, and, who in their right mind wouldn't want 4 more years of it? Now, you really shouldn't even consider voting for Romney, because he simply has too much trouble with numbers, and God knows that if you have trouble with numbers, then yuo're likely not going to get away with corruption and/or as easily being corrupted, and that simply will cause BO and his gullible followers alot of problems. Now here's my solution to the problem first, austerity measures and/or reduce the amount of benefits package/pension plans for all Politicians, Government or State Employees (you know, career politicians, and/or absolute power corrupts absolutely) and do thorough background checks on terrorists seeking power and/or attempting to coerce and/or indoctrinate as many citizens of this Country as possible who will unwittingly sign-up to participate in (their demise) celebrating their independence. And BTW, whenever I inadvertently or haphazardly look at and/or hear BO, I have to force myself to remember that I should always be kind to
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Nope, you confirmed that you're the Alien. Anyway, the Dinosauurs had no concept of being a Dinosaur, they just did the only thing they could, and by no fault of their own and/or an act of god, became extinct. Now, aren't you glad that you don't have worry about waking up in the morning and being chased by a pack of Velociraptors or T-Rex or all the other carnivores. Now, just think if only you had just one inkling of the remostest chance of having a clue about the future, and I would almost be willing to bet that you and many others would have done something about it while yuo could. The problem with the future of this biologically dependent human condition is that in 100 thousands years it will all but have been completely become obsolete. A real future or a more true pure trouble-free newfound mobility and/or technological based life will have begun by then, in that a real life In Space will be somewhat secure or viable. While it is quite difficult to reason or rationalise just how far back in time this human mode of being is, it nevertheless is all we can handle for the time being. The future at some point will be Mickey Mouse free, and consist-in nothing less than an absolute precise, efficient, second to none highly compatable instantaneous system, which could hardly be understood or realized by our current methods or standards. Judging by what I've seen (it's a given really, because my eyes and/or senses are significantly more acutely attuned and/or trained) it cannot be denied or disregarded that extremely highly or ungodly advanced civilizations clearly not only exist but are operating In Space. What is now become almost a joke to me is how we can only hope to point the finger at ourselves, until we and/or this severely lacking means of technology and/or mode of being has all but been replaced with something far more viable, capable, enduring A Perfected Independent Highly Complex Sophisticated State of Technological Being is currently operating this Earth and/or Star System, and likely, many similar, or not as far, or, further along, and/or all points between, thruout this galaxy and likely al the rest thruout the universe So, whether or not if you've ever bothered to look past the end of your nose to see the obvious in front of you, it's still quite unlikely you would have figured out your butt from a hole in the ground, while among the living dead. Not only has Supreme Technological Being left this ground-based restricted limited human being so very far behind and/or right where it is, but also enabling it to be, in that *They* are directly involved in every aspect facet of our being progress... such as life!. It'll help to think of it like this we're *their* bread butter, and they ares. The world us are an integral part of the ongoing process of the cycle of life, and altho we are rather hopelessly incapable and have a god awful long way to go before we can travel the stars w/o trouble or fail, we could get a jump on it and get up there sooner, rather than, maybe never... you never know what you can do, until you try! Yup, this confirms it. Stick to the alien/ancient civilizations. I prefer it muchly. Andy ;-) /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Now, how would you *know* that for sure?. I also think it's important to point out that it's more likely that its You, or Us, who are Alien. Everything that We don't know, in this vast universe, of which, is about everything there is, is Alien to Us. You need simply to forget the word Alien altogether, then and only then, will you make some real progress. We (as in human beings) live in very small world down here, and the highly advanced civilizations that are countless millions years ahead of us, can only naturally seem Alien to us. And prattling on as you call it, is all we do and/or will, until we're all long gone. I think I prefer it when you prattle on about alien civilizations. You are very slightly more coherent on that subject. I should know because I tend to use words that make me think that I am. Andy. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Designer of 3-D Printable Gun Has His 3-D Printer Seized
Because there is alot more to steal, and therefore great motivation to steal it. They come here from all around the globe to try to get their hand on this Countries wealth in one way or another. I mean, look what has slimed it's way into the ill-faded White House. The way I see it is, If you don't vote for Romney, then you empower a Dictator. You might as well stick a fork is us, cause were done IF this Illegal imposter fraud is allowed to walk all over us. Now, of course, this is what we get for being generous, compassionate, thoughtful, kind, and/or too giving Give'm an inch, and they'll take a mile. A fool and their money are soon departed. And my favorite, you don't know what you got, till its gone. To me, Obama in the White House can only mean that we the true people of this country and/or any other one, have a very valueable lesson to learn about Freedom. The only thing BO actually cares about is himself, and the legitimate true people of this Country are simply to be worked played by BO's thugly band of mental midget supporters until we are walked over like a stampede of animals. Anyone oppossing him, will have to be silenced and/or eliminated. So, everyone out there who has negative anti-sentiments or pure hatred for our means of government, democracy, establishment, judicial or political system, and everything else that was keeping the animals from taking over the zoo. While crony capitalism has lead to the current crony communism now falsely occupying the IL-faded White House, *We* must view it as a serious lesson to learn from, and make sure it doean't happen again. There are many currently walking among US that would like to get their grubby mitts on everything you own and/or would enjoy seeing this Country fail or be destroyed. That way, the Dictators thruout the world can once again begin implementation of their plans to militarily controll everyone thing. Obama *IS* nothing more than an illegal, and everything he has done since illegally obtaining the Presidency, is null, void, and needs to be thrown-out, with him. No matter how many umpteen times a minute, whenever you turn on a radio, Tv, or online, and see or hear Obama being referred to as The President, he ISN'T, CAN'T and NEVER will be. IF he is, then *We* the True Free People of this Country and/or the World will be no more. So please whatever you do in the final vote count of the upcoming election... DO NOT empower this wannabe Thug Of A Dictator, because it cannot work to anyones advantage, except BOs... and that IS the Mentality which We have enabled to literally walk right in this Country and seize controll of our lives... Fools!!! Sucka's!!! and don't forget to donate to your local humane society! Please, I would like to hear your explanation why the US has more criminals than the Philippines (on a per capita basis). Jojo /HTML
Re: [Vo]:US and China Team to Fight UFOs and USOs
Now the way I see it, is if you take a good look at our Comandeer Thief,,, I mean Communist Cheat, uh, no, I mean Celebrity Fundraiser, uh, I mean Dictator Plunderer, er, I mean Communist Organizer Fraud, ehh, forget it, this Countries first phoney fake fraud of an imposter of a so-called President,,, then, and only then can you see the *real* transparency of The Annointed one currently misoccupying the illfaded White House. The Hope Change and Transparency that Obama spoke of early on in his desire to Rule, uh, I mean run for the Dictatorship, uh rather, I mean Presidency, 'only' meant the hope of being able to fundamentally destroy America. The change of course is in regard to the way to how America is currently run as opposed to how the people will convert over to muzzzleheadedism to spend most of our time bowing down to the neuro-enhanced experimental somewhat human looking doofus that had it's way paid all the way into the illfaded White House, to see how much looting plundering and/or pilaging destruction he could inflict. (doing a great job, if you ask me) Needles to say, it didn't work, because the only thing that was accomplished is that the Dow Average would likely have been 16,000 some odd points and/or Obama (don't) Care would not have been impleDemented. The only Transparency that has now become abundantly clear is that I can thru Obama, and his illintentions and/or no inetntions. Obama (don't) Care was illconceived by Obama so he could raid the already in-peril health care system (you know, the doctors pharamicists that misdiagnose over-prescribe, and/or conduct countless unnecessary operations, All to bilk both you or the insurance companies of out countless $Billion$ (I mean, you can't put a price on life, and besides, if they take all every dollar you got, you won't need it where you're going anyway, and not to mention The Lord and/or Obama be with you). So then, what else can we expect except someone to come along and coordinate it so as to become empowered (as all wannabe dictators) all the while spending the most time ever working everyone out of their money by letting them know that there are many unfortunate poor people out there, so, anyone with more than $5 dollars should feel compassion, sympathy, and/or the desire to share, by gladly giving to Obama's great noble cause,,, but first, skimming a large chunk of it for himself, and then redistribute whats left as the Great Ruler sees fit. Now, I don't know about everyone else out there, but over the last 40 yrs, the Demo Party has gradually allowed itsself to be compromised if not taken down to a new all time low, but also the entire Political System and Media, which, allowed themselves to be coerced, corrupted, bribed, and/or honestly believe BO not only is incapable of emitting any odor, but that he is a real genius. And so, I can't help wonder what many of these gullible naive so-called people are up to.. maybe a place at their Great Leader's side or a ride on Airforce one w/ a fast free trip out the door at 30,000 ft, or how about a chance at a front row seat to watch the Obama's peform their Act as they try to swindle, con, and/or work the citizens of this Country out of their common sense and pocket books? So quickly now, let us reflect upon the greatest leader to ever infiltrate confiscate the most hi-tec wealthiest nation ever... He emits a Light similar to Jesus, and walks on water, feeds many with only a single fish loaf of bread (as long as it comes out of your pocket),,, and we must not anger him for fear of being rose-up against by the many who depend on our good fortune compassion love. We must be willing to commit our lives and/or livelyhood to Yo Honky Mama's great noble just cause, so he can continue on in his on-going effort to rule over us.Thank You All! PS. I mean look at where this Man (?) comes from,,, and you don't have to wonder.
Re: [Vo]:US and China Team to Fight UFOs and USOs
You mean Oppressive and/or Depression. I imagine that you are sincere. Oh lordy that's depressing. Dave B. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:US and China Team to Fight UFOs and USOs
If this is so, then it can only mean one thing. The animals are becoming restless because they're feeling trapped, and by displaying some aggressive behavior directly at the zoo keepers, their message of being free to wreak havoc upon the earth will be heard. Now, I have a feeling the only thing their going to receive is either a ' Kick In The Butt' or maybe aeven a serious Butt Whoopin naturally speaking of course. This last week, reports of Chinese naval vessels off the US coast, Northern Californian in particular, have been reported but denied. Now an Asian intelligence agency reports that a combined fleet operation between the US and China has been going on, a full combat operation against what we are told is a “highly unfriendly extra-terrestrial threat.” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/09/17/ufo-war-chinese-and-us-navy-off-san-francisco/ /HTML
Re: [Vo]:US and China Team to Fight UFOs and USOs
Riot On! I'm in a tank for Obama! I love the Chinese people. It about time that we stared getting along. For whatever reason chalk one up for Obama. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:US and China Team to Fight UFOs and USOs
*All* we need is a Light Energy Propulsion/System... one that can let the animals be animals and live happily ever after. I hope we have a dark energy weapon... /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Free Energy for All Mankind (Almost)
Initially, upon reading the statement below of Quenco's Quantum Energy Converter, I can't help but think how promising this technology is. The applications are endless, such as turning your fireplace, woodstove, furnace, or campfire into a generator, and for that matter anywhere heat is generated. Even when I go for a jog (which I need to do regularly) I could wear clothing made of this material and wear a rechargeable battery pack and recharge it, for later use in my toy car,,, which, I hope Science will soon find a way to reduce my present huge sized body down to an equal size to fit into, and/or back again to jog and recharge the battery pack... just think of the savings in fuel costs. BTW, I have a few problems with Quenco's solution to the worlds problems... They say [ 1.] The use of quenco will create millions of new jobs (I say instead of creating new jobs, just replace the bad ones). They say [ 2.] Potentially help feed billions of people (I say, if you feed billions, you'll get billions more). They say [3]. And reduce the damage being done to our World (I say it's possible, but not if you sell so much of this product that the entire world is covered in it). In a message dated 9/26/12 8:38:51 AM EST, hohlr...@gmail.com writes: They're coming out of the woodwork: http://www.quentron.com/index.html quote Quenco (Quantum Energy Convertor) POWER FOR EVERYONE We urgently need power that is cheap and clean Power that is limitless, reliable, and also mobile Quenco is the only 24/7 complete solution Quenco, is a thin film heat to power technology A genuine breakthrough in physics Ambient heat is converted into electrical power Solid state and needs no fuel or maintenance Imagine 50 kW Power for electric vehicles - $10,000 (Cheaper than batteries, and unlimited range) 10 kW Home power systems - $5,000 (off grid, no bills and a payback of just 2 years) and All the energy comes from the heat in ambient air (it works even if the air temp is -40) Also imagine Phones and Computers that never need charging Ultra-Computers with stacked CPUs that recycle heat Bionics, Tractors, Grow lights, Hydroponics, Air-con All royalties (est $200B/p.a) to go to NFP Foundations. The use of quenco will be create millions of new jobs Potentially help feed billions of people And reduce the damage being done to our World QUENCO Power for Everyone end /HTML
Re: [Vo]:A Hurricane Prediction Based Upon Dark Matter
All NOAA can do is name names it really is typical. So anyway, how would you feel if they named a hurricane after you Stewart, and it turned out to be devastating for millions of people so, I wouldn't want a million-strong mob looking to lynch or stomp me into the ground. So anyway, I think if you are in the business of predicting things, then you should be more thorough about it, or least try to be. To me, it's quite understandable that every place, nation, or country on this earth will at some time likely undergo or suffer some type of environmentally destructive event, whether it's a hurricane, tornado, tsunami, volcano, fire, flood, quake, etc.. Of course there really is only one solution to outdoing natures destructive tendencies or wrath, and that is to get the One Only Means of Technology capable of doing it, on the drawing board. Now of course I realize it means that no human beings perse' will be required to operate this altogether highly advanced technology, but that just makes it all the better (no offense intended to any humans out there. and, I know you're out there, because I have proof). Just think no more earthly problems! NOAA named it Nadine not me. They are predicting it will turn North anyway. I am not sure if that is the low pressure system I am looking for or not. Weathermen make wrong predictions all of the time. If I am wrong I guess I might still qualify as one but I will not quit my day job for now. I like your humor though On Tuesday, September 25, 2012, wrote: Okay Stew... You've predicted the destination of Nadine, but why didn't you mention why you named it Nadine? So now, if I were to sound it out, it sounds very similar the word N-e-e-d-i-n-g? so, what is it that is relative importance you're currently in need of ?... is it wind-energy, a large amount of water for drinking, fishing, etc, etc., or maybe a big spin-off tornado or vortex that sucks you in sends you to another place? (tee hee). Theories are useless unless they help us predict. I have gone out on a limb to predict the destination of tropical storm Nadine that has been swirling in the gulf the past couple of weeks. I believe I am correct unless another dark matter particle interacts at some point along her path and wins out. http://wp.me/p26aeb-6D Please pray for me and those in her path or prepare to throw large amounts of egg at my face. Stewart /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Martian Pyramid
Yes, microorganisms have been building not only pyramids for countless billions of years, but many other various shaped structures as well. Pt... highly advanced civilizations are building pyramids thruout the planets and/or their moons in our star system, because, they're trying to make everyone on earth think the egyptians have long since made tremendous progress with their technology you know, the kind that levitates giant stones via a secret antigravity device. Pyramids are really just natural odd or rare rock formations odd or rare that become exposed over time as the wind blows away the surrounding dirt or dust. Tiny pyramid discovered on Mars... http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/storm_watch_stories3stormfile=Curiosity_discovers_martian_pyrmaid_21_09_2012 therefore Martians are tiny. Harry /HTML
Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication
BUT... we do not currently possess the highly advanced technical ablity to enable us to alter the direction of our illfated future, whereas, the only humans there are, as conveyed in several documentaries that interviewed a one Travis Walton, that told of his encounter with an Advanced Civilization's Craft back in 1975 (?) as he a crew of gov contracted brush cutters were returning home one night on a Mountain road in outside of the sleep litle town of Snowflake, AZ. Mind you, the crew all saw T.W. get TKO'd by the craft that was just hovering over him he should have stayed in his vehicle, like the rest of his kind that tend to be easily frightened and/or unmotivated to explore the unknown, and/or content in doing only what they are capable of. Yeah well, anyway, I'd say that, if you think this incident was 'only' a hoax or scam, for money or recognition, I'd say guess again because this incident not only had more than likely occured, but it speaks volumes of what I think many ground dwelling human beings need to *know* about their future... Now, T.W. thoroughly described in detail his encounter with these highly advanced humanoid/beings, and also spoke of the two human looking individuals that he said would pass in a crowd here on earth These humans were (likely) white (supremesists) that some people down here (after the fact) who 'herd or learned of this incident thought it likely these humans actually were in charge of the operation. It's doubtful however because they were said to be 'muscular looking', and, were also apparently poor communicators, which of course frightened T.W., Upon determining they were either hostile or unfriendly, he began to panic (as expected) whereupon he was rather quickly subdued, and, the last thing he remembered To me, these humans (in appearance only) are obviously genetically enhanced, and, basically serve as a 'go between' or 'welcoming effect' on ourkind, in encounters that involve us being either apprehended or subdued, as required (and, don't think that the word doesn't get out... and, good luck with that)! You have to rememer the sequence of events that unfolded in this incident, because first, T.W. did not respond-well to the 'beyond' frightening apearance of the highly advanced humanoid-beings, and/or because they did not communicate in any way, he knew he had to get away from them. After fleeing, he soon entered another room or compartment, of which he said he could breath easier because the air was better or more fresh. He also stumbled (?) into some type of 'control room', and began to fool around with the intrumentation, of which he thought he might crash this thing. Now, I won't go into detail about everything I've managed to logically deduce and/or extrapolate from what I would say was a *real life encounter* but rest assure, it's no-less than absolutely stunning, amazing, awe-inspiring, highly motivational ... and that's only the beginning! Loren Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication LORENHEYER Mon, 24 Sep 2012 10:38:07 -0700 Maybe in 10 million yrs this civilization will have developed the highly sophisticated complex process by which the strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetic, gravitational forces can be altered or manipulated. It will require millions of yrs to develope a 'hole' complete working knowledge of the forces at work around us thruout the universe snip already done ten years ago. http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/4050 /HTML
Re: [Vo]:A Hurricane Prediction Based Upon Dark Matter
Okay Stew... You've predicted the destination of Nadine, but why didn't you mention why you named it Nadine? So now, if I were to sound it out, it sounds very similar the word N-e-e-d-i-n-g? so, what is it that is relative importance you're currently in need of ?... is it wind-energy, a large amount of water for drinking, fishing, etc, etc., or maybe a big spin-off tornado or vortex that sucks you in sends you to another place? (tee hee). Theories are useless unless they help us predict. I have gone out on a limb to predict the destination of tropical storm Nadine that has been swirling in the gulf the past couple of weeks. I believe I am correct unless another dark matter particle interacts at some point along her path and wins out. http://wp.me/p26aeb-6D Please pray for me and those in her path or prepare to throw large amounts of egg at my face. Stewart /HTML
Re: [Vo]:example of a bad prognostication
Maybe in 10 million yrs this civilization will have developed the highly sophisticated complex process by which the strong/weak nuclear, electromagnetic, gravitational forces can be altered or manipulated. It will require millions of yrs to develope a 'hole' complete working knowledge of the forces at work around us thruout the universe, and while this is presently being thoroughly handled by our very advanced caretakers (bless their hearts you know, if they had one) that are currently operating up in the Space above and/or thruout the star system, we most likely have the right to live-on and continue progress well into the future (I mean, why wouldn't we right?) Someday tho, in the distant future, we (as in advanced nonhumans) too will possess the highly technical ability that will enable us (as in advanced nonhumans) to partake in the *real* business of creating worlds by which life can florish once again (I miss it already). So, I think it's of relative importance to make a checklist of the things that will need to be addressed in order to build the One Only System or Means of Technology that highly advanced civilizations are currently using to not only travel the vastness of innerstellar space but also to exist In Space among the Stars/Worlds, and/or to build tend, nuture them (w!) The capacity in which these highly evolved/developed civilizations are operating in is undoubtedly so very complex that we could only be frightened, confused, mystified, or, persue it in the only way we can. This *other* (ungodly) quintessential technology that took countless millions of years to fully RD or *perfect* as to the highly exact specificity of materials and their properties, and the instantaneous interactions with the one only process with a highly developed powerful energy/power-source, that is applied as efficiently and compatably and/or directly as possible, to generate an altogether different new form continuous dependable propulsion, and controll it with 'mere' thought, to perform out of these worlds maneuvers and/or obtain speeds that leave it all behind, and *All* w/o expending or depleting any energy. IOW, a Perfected Independent State of Light Energy/Propulsion, along with a whole complete extremely advanced intelligence process that has no equal. (even tho, they likely number in the gazillions, thruout the universe). The main driving force behind the Ultimate Vehicle will depend on an SRC (spining rotor center) which might consist of an overall weight of around 39-lbs. 1/6'th of the overall total circumference of this SRC would consist of a weight of 19-lbs, consist of EAFP (electromagnetic attraction-force properties). To the exact oppposite of this EAFP 1/6'th in the SRC is the NP (no properties) 1/6'th, which consists of a weight of 20-lbs. So, a 1-lb imbalance exists in the 2-halves of the SRC, of which generates 4 - 5 thousand lbs of Centrifugal-force, spinning at a rate of 1,000 revs per sec. If enough powerful efficient steps are implemented into the finished vehicle/craft, so as to produce a TPF (total pulling force) at least twice it's overall weight, then it should be able to lift-up slowly vertically and/or accelerate at a degree of some angle at a fairly good rate. If a craft's overall weight was 6,000-lbs, and a TPF of 5-X's that was generated, then it should be able to accelerate at roughly 100 Mphs per sec , and/or exert about 25 to 50 G's or so. In less than a 1/2 minute or so this Ulitmate Immaculate Dream Machine would enter space, and then continue to accelerate until it reached (as an example) the halfway point to the moon. Then, the RTOS (rapid timing order sequence), would need to be reversed so as to redirect the TPF in the opposite direction, for deceleration. A test run to the moon and back, would take little more than an hour or two, but depends on some type of newly developed technology to enable rapidly changing distances to be coordinated accordingly, or with extreme accuracy.
Re: [Vo]:OT nuclear physicist as dutch prime minister?
UFO's are Unmistakable Formidable Objects UFO's are? /HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
Here is my official well-learned opinion about the means or mode of Technology that we (modern-day mankind) are using to interpret or decipher the world around us, and especially when it comes to pictures or images so-called videos It's really only insufficient, inadequate, confusing, invalid, convoluted, misleading, even offensive, enraging, foul, vile, demeaning, disgusting, despicable, etc. etc. Now, all you have to do to get the general idea of what impact a video can have of someone, and, not to (precisely) change the subject, but... The recent video made of the stoned-age people that became enraged when they see or hear of themselves in the act of their animal-like behavior. Maybe it's just coincidental that the stoned-age people simply enjoy throwing stones, clubing/burning people, and/or naturally tend to destroy any everything produced by the modern world. It's really just an issue of a somewhat earlier version of mankind, which hasn't yet crossed-over from the primative tendencies or behavior associated with there-of, to the more evolved Modern Humans which we obviously are. From my viewpoint, these stoned-age people are the real infidels because they are obviously deathly afraid of technology and/or a future that doesn't involve them bending down all day kissing the ground (good by),,, which of course, is where they all, more or less, *know* they're going to end up. Now, all of us more evolved modern civilized humans *know* deep down that When If it comes down to it that it's US or Them (the animals),,, and so, of course, there isn't any real choice At some point, if They succeed in their on-going effort to ses the total compete demise of US, then we'll need asap to we pull ourselves back or out completely, or as much as possible, and totally obliterate their world. Then, and only then, will THEY *know,* (w/o question) once and for all, that our God is all truly powerfull and all knowing, and/or has no equal. THEIR so-called religion, prophets, and/or god will then be All Ah or All Uh, Up In The Air. In a message dated 9/6/12 6:17:27 PM EST, hohlr...@gmail.com writes: However, I have to offer this vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDlRm87fQaY and one of not so good quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreenv=r0OIxzFJiKYNR=1 and, while I really want to believe, . . . Maybe Loren Heyer will comment? /HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT nuclear physicist as dutch prime minister?
Hi, On 13-9-2012 12:23, Teslaalset wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Andre Blum andre_vor...@blums.nl mailto:andre_vor...@blums.nl wrote: On 09/12/2012 01:21 PM, Andre Blum wrote: Please, please refrain from discussing dutch politics when it has absolutely nothing to do with the subjects intended to be discussed in this mailing list. Kind regards, Rob While Politics are a completely seperate issue from the subjects being discussed here, I can't help but think back when my Folks would argure, and because my Dad has some 'Dutch' in his blood, and my Mother would become quite steamed, she would call him a stubborn Dutchman... I think we all have a little Dutch in us, and don't forget about the Dutch oven? L H/HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT: UFO Fleet Starship Filmed on telescope
If I've learned one thing over the years from all my observations of looking up in the sky with the unaided eye, not to mention what I am absolutely convinced and/or confident are authentic first-hand eyewitness up-close encounters that depict actual landed craft that leave tell-tale signs, effects, and/or physical evidence behind, plus the occupants or crew that have been described as small humanoid (highly evolved and/or developed in my opinion) beings w/ small thin bodies (in diver type suits) w/ enlarged heads w/ large obsidian or almond shaped eyes (something obvious related to tremendous light gathering abilities, in my opinion) and barely discernable nose, ears, mouth, Not to mention w/o a doubt, no genitalia, organs, blood, flesh, nerves natural senses (have you lost yours yet?... well, you won't need to, because it's all not only archaic and completely unnecessary outdone, but obsolete), etc, etc.. Now, while I am well aware of many but certainly not all of the various incidents over the years of sightings encounters of us well-grounded in-the-flesh naturally limited and/or biologically dependent restricted humans with them, I also realize that every copycat story hoax will naturally follow, and/or a more reasonable practical down to earth (un) scientific explanation. (Money or Job Security typically forces most of us to say or do anything... it''s completely understandable because it is the current means by which enables us to prosper progress and/or govern ourselves. Now, one thing I'll say with 100 % certainty is that while this whole complete other issue has been thoroughly absolutely completely diluted, one clear *FACT* remains, and that is that what we (human beings) tend only to believe in, in regard to a more enduring place in heaven in some afterlife, with God or the Lord, or Supreme Being, or whathaveyou,,, the *Reality* of the situation or nature of the beast will demand that as we evolve grow over 10's of thousands millions of years, develope vastly improved ways of obtaining efficiency in energy production materials w/ second to none properties, along with the one only process that will enable this civilization to travel the stars w/o trouble or fail. Unfortunately, over the course of such a vast amount of time (and space) needed to develope this whole complete other mode of technological being, and the enormity or immensity or capacity and/or level of sophistication that information is processed about the world we live in, our current human mode of existence will long since have become so outdated that yuo certainly wouldn't even hope to recognize it Out with the Old... In with the New. Our earthly individual human identities that we now live experience differently will very slowly come to pass, because, bio-reproduction and/or the natural environment will at some point in the future be competely abandoned or outdone. IOW's, immortality and/or a one being based ability will be developed/created in the Laboratory, whereas the world outside will then be the world within. Now, no doubt while it's a long story, that has already comepletely played out out there in countless other star systems over the billions of years, it's important to keep in mind that we humankind possess the cognitive ability to comprehend this other world which we generally know little to nothing about. So anyway, right now up in the Space above us is a highly coordinated attuned effort the likes of which would not only would but is completely baffling ourkind down here on good old earth, BUT, it should be at least comforting, if not rewarding, and/or even beyond exciting to *Know* that a whole complete *other* immaculate exquisite mode of existence/being has been thoroughly accomplished In The Absolute, Among The Stars, In Space, w/o trouble or fail, and very possibly Forever There After Anything else, would be uncivilized... not worth a hill of beings, or how'bout, the paper it's printed on. Just having a little fun, before I perish from the earth OR if you wish,
Re: The size of our vehicles (was: Re: [Vo]:If You Liked Segway)
In, say about 10,000 yrs or so, a typical automobile will be the about the size of a Match Box (toy) Car... because a tremendous amount of progress will continue until an almost infinite amount of information can be stored in something very small. Like the first computers back in the 50's(?) to now, which can fit in the palm of your hand. And so goes for the size and/or functonality of a modern day human being and/or all the data that makes one of us us. Undoubtedly in the far distant future an entire population/civilization could fit into something the size of a Basketball, and from there things will just get smaller smaller until an all new extremely efficient standard or mode of living will be developed. So I was wondering, and have been a while, what the future trend will be in car sizes. I honestly don't know the answer myself. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:UFO found on mars by new lander?
For the sake of the Future of Ourkind, of which we will never get even a good idea of, let alone a glimpse of,,, I would like to briefly describe the Capabilities of a genuine UFO, as in an, Extremely Advanced Craft and/or the Crew Members that operate it. First, IT is a *Very* sophisticated Craft and Thee Ultimate Vehicle or Dream Machine that is well beyond your wildest notion of what reality is,, that is to say that no doubt IS the result of an enormous amount of time developing Thee one only process by which highly efficient materials/properties are produced or perfected, and as well the compatability into that immaculately perfected miraculously capable Craft, that is mostly Second to None. Now lets say on-average that one of these extremely advanced Craft consists in size of 25 in Dia. and a height of 10 ft., of which when/if viewed by 'Our' relatively disabled visual abilties might appear to weigh, say, 10 to 20 tons or so. Now, from my well-learned perspective after decades of persuing this rather mind boggling matter, I've determine that these phenomenally efficient highly capable Craft weigh much less, more like 1/10 th, or *only* a few tonnes Secondly, the power source would have to consist of some highly developed form of HENR, to enable powering-up down accordingly to the RTOS (rapid timing order sequence) And So, lets say a Craft has a OVW (overall vehicle weight) of 5-tons, which utilizes several Systems that can generate a TPF (total pulling force) of say 10 tons, of which, would enable you to accelerate at a rate in the 25 to 50 G range. So, the more TPF capacity over the OVW, the more acceleration rate increase and/or speed achieved (maybe?) It's likely that one of these typically advanced Craft can generate a TPF 10 X's that over the OVW, of which, could generate a G-force acceleration rate in the 50 to 100 range. Naturally of course, a human being could not survive these conditions, so, all we have to do is to eliminate the biologically dependent fraility aspect and/or build an altogether vastly improved compatable intelligent process that works hand in hand (instantly) with this whole complete 'other' highly advanced sophisticated vehicle and/or the altogether powefully new capable energy-field that can enable star travel, w/o trouble or fail. If a trip to the nearest Star took several decades to complete, it wouldn't matter IF you had acheived *absolute* perfection in the ultimate *only* means of technology, and the intelligence process which no longer is dependent upon air, nutrients, organs blood, flesh, and all the things that keep all us humans hopelssly confined to earth. Quite simply, there's *no* guess work when it comes to this whole complete 'other' system/vehicle. If you can for a moment, imagine what is involved in producing an ultimate Craft that is made to within such exact specifications that *every* atom is fully accounted for. The altogether extremely advanced Energy-Field (currently completely unknown by our science) being generated by one of these Craft is essentially tapped into and is enabling the deciphering of matter energy that permeates thruout space/time in an unbelievably accurate detailed capacity, and/or is also being operated. In fact, I would go farther by saying that the process by which this (our?) Star World functions or exists is not only thoroughly known inside out but also the intelligence process that makes up our very being or soul (if you don't mind, too terribly much?... talk about an invasion of privacy). Anyway, the whole complete 'other' extremely advanced capable 100% technological mode of being currently operating in the space above us IS directly involved and/or connected to eternity,,, and quite frankly, because that scares me to no end, I would prefer not to actually even come close to knowing about it (unless of
Re: [Vo]:UFO found on mars by new lander?
It is more than highly likely that Advanced Civilizations have thoroughly achieved a SRC (spinning rotor center) that spins within a SHOE at least 60,000 RPM's (1,000 RPS's). While it's been about 10 plus years since NASA had achieved a sustained spinning of a Rotor at 60,000 RPM's, I would tend to think that was only the beginning!. In fact I would say that possibly 5 X's that or more has already been thoroughly achieved by advanced civilizations, and it plays a vital role in achieving the ultimate speed limit. It's very possible that a good percentage of the Light Speed has been obtained? The RTOS (rapid timing order sequence) obviously determines at what rate the Force is let out, but how exactly does this work in sync with the RPM's or RPS's?. IF someone knows how to figure this, could you please elaborate, because it's what makes or breaks/brakes the system. While I am mathematically challenged and/or altogether illiterate,,, I can still multiply 1 X's 1,000 and come up with 5,000, and/or multiply 1 X's 5,000 and come up with 25,000 (close enough). The SRC has to be compensated with electromagnetic attraction-force in order for it to spin very fast and in a smooth or uniform manner. Also, there's a little matter of how to apply HENR to this System, to power up and/or down accordingly as manueuvers are performed and/or speed is obtained. Now, what ever you may think, please don't think that I don't know that building this Craft and/or Systems will demand a feat of engineering skills the likes of which we will not likely ever possess, however, IF we did somehow manage to grab the Bull By The Horns, and take this endeavor on, then the sooner we'll avoid getting trampled over by the overwheming unforgiving Masses. You see, Growth doesn't necessarily require that we reproduce in large numbers, but rather by the ever increased complexity and/or sophistication of the technology we produce. As the population of earth continues to grow, it will force or drive us to develope the Technology that can someday adequately replace this biologically dependent world with an altogether different mode of functionality and/or being. Ultimately, the technology will inevitably be developed that will preserve the essence of our soul but allows for an all new entirely different kind of life to be thoroughly lived, that is wholy independent of this naturally dibilitating one. In the far distant future, one being will be able to operate in at least 1 million X's the capacity as anyone of us Yep, thats progress!.Lets see now, a Craft w/ 10 very highly capable crew members will likely cost about $100,000,000,000.oo. If you ask me now, that is a steal of a deal, but only IF you act now!. If you wait until 10 million years from now, it'll run you considerably more at say, oh, $100,000,000,000,000.oo./HTML
Re: [Vo]:UFO found on mars by new lander?
Heck, that's nothing... UFO's have been up in space long before Mankind's earliest simplest lifeform ancestors were beginning to develope billions of years ago. UFO's have not only been with US from the get-go but have been motivating US to persue the Stars. IN fact, the most highly developed and/or advanced civilizations are indeed so very capable that they are literally from beyond Space Time, as we know it. As far as Mars goes... It's just one Stepping Stone to the Stars,,, and those highly capable UFO's are already out there, everywhere, and have been for only god knows how long... It's a gimee, and we're the takers because that's the way it was, is, and will be far into the distant future, and beyond. Subject: UFO found on mars by new Mars lander? /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Inspiration
I'm inclined to think that some of the so-called green energies, especially solar, will be worth the effort as the RD process continues to produce more efficient materials and/or their specific properties for extracting and/or converting heat into energy, and will play a vital part in Clean Nuclear fission fusion technologies. IOW's, the process going on in the sun that generates the immense amount of heat can be reproduced in a altogether vastly improved highly contained System that will make Clean Nuclear fission and/or fusion possible No? And so, I would say that a good working system all depends on the vastly improved efficiency of vastly improved materials, and the only way to develope these materials might require an all new approach in understanding how energy will be used. Clean Nuclear fission and fusion don't appear to exist anytime soon. Solar, wind and bio suck as a source of energy and is an economic step backwards /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy
If a large percentage of Politicians, Banker, Financier, etc., etc., either already has engaged in corrption and/or have a 10% chance they *would*,,, then Obama is 110% absolutely the most power/money-hungry bribing scheming corrupt Illegal illegitimateindividual (of the heard mentality kind) to ever serve as President and/or Comandeer Thief of this once proud, but truly gullible naive Country. Brainwash'em and/or say things they desperately want to hear, then take everything they own and/or eliminate them completely is the prime directive of most wannabe Ruling Dictators Now, with your help, we can Fundamentally destroy, err, uhh, I mean Transform America! . Vote for me, or else!!!, er, uhh, I mean, or else you'll just end up with the same old politicians that only continue to get wealthier, while all you poor suckers get poorer.Now, we can share the wealth, and make me the Richest Ruler Ever!!!,,, err, uhh, I mean make this Country More Prosperous Than Ever! Thank you!!! It's about time, because we've all worked so hard over the years to get to this point, and there ain't no going back now,,, well, at least not until after the total collapse of civilization. There are many questions about Obama's past. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Blather in the mass media makes scientists think we are crazy
It's long overdue that someone with a few brain cells a spine, and is fully supported by *individualism* and/or *Real* people who believe in *not* living elbow to elbow like pack rats,,, make an real earnest effort to *revise* policies and/or * Laws* regarding the influx of people that (don't) think the only way to a successful future is to breed in overwhelming numbers. Plus, the only way we can protect what we have from being completely destroyed and/or devoured will require *us* of whom tend to legally rightfully occupy a Country, to be vigilent in keeping a relatively sharp eye out *before* the enmassing hoard is successful. If we don't, then we can soon look forward to an inevitable collapse of all that we now take for granted I don't think most of you want to find out first-hand what it's like to be eaten alive... but actually, now that I think about it, I've soemtimes wondered what different people thruout the world might taste like, if say, one might taste like chicken and maybe another like beef or pork?. Its just a thought, but maybe we need to start preparing for a change in our diets,,, and at the same time, saving the animals. I mean afterall, they've been treated very poorly, like *things* instead of living creatures in many of the populated areas of various so-called Countries. So, just a reminder... you are measured by how you tr(eat) your animals, otherwise you may just be one yourself. I thought that since his mother was an American citizen then he automatically was. Is this not the way it pans out? Does the location of birth outside of the USA make one a non citizen? Dave /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Curiosity
Yea, this will be a lesson to whatever microorganisms live there that dare to even think about invading earth. I feel however that it might already be too late, because I've seen alot of ufo activity lately. Just imagine tho, a micro-organism operated ufo that has us humans believing that we are very special in all the cosmos, all the while we are unaware what lies ahead for us. Martians, be warned. This puppy is armed with an infrared laser which can vaporize solid rock; so, don't be muckin' with Curiosity! /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Curiosity
Its a start, but, why spend 2 half $ Billion on a Mission to Mars to build something just to achieve that? I realize it's of significant scientific importance to test our latest various instruments, devices, systems, etc., not to mention advancing our technical abilities overall. It's also rather an awesome opportunity to learn as much as we can about the once thought to be civilization on Mars. The Martians, according to one absent minded theory, supposedly had once upon a time long since inhabited Mars, and either had dried up and/or perished back into the Martian soil, of which, I believe is comprised of alot of iron (it's good for the digestive system Belch!!! Now, you have to keep in-mind that this all happened long before our civilization even existed, and it's possible those Martians developed the technical ability to leave their world far behind, and may even be responsible for seeding earth. For me, I am already convinced that the so-called Martians are currently operating up in the space above earth, so, I say, why send probes to Mars in hopes of learning what happened to microrganisms that are now flying around in ufo's? The real issue is that what happened to Mars, will likely slowly over the several thousand years or so, may also happen here. And so, we should start preparing now, as the Earth's H20 continues to dissipate or disappears or evaporates, or where ever it goes. By building specially contained and wel equipped environments *underground* to sustain a functional population, the insulating effects can protect us against extreme outside temps at a constant comfy 72 o's or so,,, so, we might as well start adjusting accordingly. The sooner as we can build a significantly more technologically abled non biolgically dependent human to pilot the one only advanced propulsion system that will enable *true* star travel, the better off we well grounded limited restricted disabled humans won't need to be! I'm seriously thinking about starting a business building some rather trendy looking underground complexes, communities, and/or subdivisions of a sort where the main housing infrastucture is underground. There will be many above structures and so it will not resemble anything like mole people occupy it. It will simply be highly energy efficient, and offer a whole complete new style of living w/ a whole host of state of the art technology that will slowly replace this biologically dependent human mode of being (I'm so excited!). So Curiosity is immune to Mars winters and nights. Able to work 24/7/365. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Transhumanism (Was:The Fallacies of Darwinian Evolution - Basic Defi...
Way back when early Man had slowly begun to learn how to build an outside shelter other than what a cave provided, he *learned* how to utilize the available resources such as hay, mud, stone, wood, etc., then, metals. and now considering this, ask yourself this question. were these things learned, innate, inevitable and/or have we been assisted by someone of a higher power and/or capability? Is this *Progress*, or Not?. The answer is Yes, and it means that we evolved, BUT it also means we are not only alone, but we are (in nature that is). Now, without this somewhat lengthy (speaking relatively, strictly of course) process, we neither have evolution or creativity. As nice as it would be, this life wasn't just put here in a devive beam of light by God, (altho, you could say that), but rather, we are the product of millions of years of adapting evolving to an eve demanding environment that forces us to change and/or progress to this *very* natural world of survivalism (I'm better than that). Several thousand years ago, early civilization was living in a very small world, AND it is important to remember that it wasn't *even* known that the world was round. In one sense, religion is nothing more than *belief* which is based only on a very basic knowledge of what was known at the time. To compare what was known back then, from what is now, is all but absolutely ludicrous. The only way to proceed from here is to revise, and the Bye Bull shall always be for those who can *only* be, in the past (Real Realists). Anyone can *believe* in God, but the problem is that as we outgrow all of the many fairly tales myths, and *learn* the various properties of matter laws of physics, we need to keep-in-mind where we are in the greater scheme of things. *Those* who are so very far above us *know* that we can only make-it-up as we go (along for the ride). While it's good to believe, it's better to know, and *noone* of any greater power or ability would deny us that (quite the contrary). While we are stuck (firmly) in the past, and are bound by these naturally dibilitating limitations, we should begin to allow ourselves the right to believe in something that's worth arguing about... For me, an Ungodly amount of Progress has been thoroughly accomplished by extremely highly evolved/developed civilizations,,, of which, have been motivating inspiring ourkind since our ancestors fell out of the trees. Sadly for us, the monkey business that we are currently involved in, has long since been left FAR behind. Dealing with this fact, will require just about everything that we think we know, to be thoroughly revised. Translating the BuyBull is relatively easy, because all you have to do is *realize* how easy people of those days were influenced. The Word Of God perse, is nothing more than someone claiming to be telling the truth as they believe it to be... anything else, is from the devil. One of the weaknesses of the creationist argument is the reliance on the bible for total moral direction. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Koch founded climate skeptic changes sides
I'm thinking about starting a contruction business for Houses that can from float up to 100 ft. above the foundation. Another idea is to start building and/or re-introduce amphibious cars and/or House Boats. We know the flood is coming; it is no surprise, so letÂ’s start making plans to adapt to it. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Are We Being Evicted?
I've seen about 5 pretty good ones, and several more not quite as, over the years. I saw one once that had just begun to enter the upper atmosphere and it immediately blew apart, w/o any sound. It was obviously a fairly good distance out up over East Nv or farther. At any rate while these are somewhat spectacular to see first-hand, they're relatively mundane compared to the other things going on up in space, and especially what I've seen in just the past few months or so. Return of the green fireballs: /HTML
Re: [Vo]:National Archives Of Great Britian- UFO Files- July 2012
We, as in this civilization of a race of human beings in an initial or elementary stage of development way back in time, on earth,,, are in the archives aboard UFO's. Now just think what it would be like to have been up there coordinating efforts since the time of the earliest simple lifeforms began billions of years ago (here), all the way up thru time until present. When you mention UFO's, you've said a mouthful, or, speak volumes, BUT, the problem is that language 'perse has long since been done away with, as in grunts groans and/or ooohs ahhhs. If you really want to make the connection and/or relate to UFO's, then let it stand for Unbelievably Free Objectives. *Those* who are up in space are so absoutely technologically advanced that all we can do is refer to them as Unidentified or Unknown Flying Objects. A good analogy of understanding *Their* abilities compared to Ours, would be comparable to that of an Ant Colony to a Human. Now, while an Ant can't send a rocket to the moon, it isn't much different than an ant traveling 100 ft away from the ant hill to explore it's surroundings for resources. Simply put, once you've reached technological independence, resources are simply no longer consumed or required. I think anyone with even just amodicul of insight can see just how far 'we' have to go in order to accomplish that. Being Biologically Independent essentially enables immortality, but the problem is that that is largely what makes up our entire well grounded being. The one only system that can enable immortality and/or star travel w/o trouble or fail, I am more than confident IS the one I've already described here. It's the only way to efficiently generate the dynamic forces, and a *State* of energy/propulsion at the same time. There simply is no other way to do all of this as efficiently as this one only system can, and I would say that them are the facts, so, the sooner we deal with it, the sooner we can leave this permanent gravesite called planet earth, once for all!.. no ifs, ands, or buts about it. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Are We Being Evicted?
In my view there's no doubt there's alot going on up in space, and I'm more inclined to think that if anything, we are evicting ourselves from the Earth. As the population continues to increase by 3rd world Countries that continue to invade the neighboring Countries that are considerably better off and/or are asleep at the switch, civilization at some point fairly soon will bust. I predict that a great (un)civil uprising will take place around the year 2020 or sooner. There'll be a great struggle for power control of the resources, and eventually a new beginning will begin to take hold. I believe there will be many such Eras in the future that will continue to reshape how civilization proceeds or progresses. After a million years or so of living in highly specified underground envirnoments and after all of the inhabitants have undergone a transformation of loss of pigmentation or characteristics that make us all so special different, it's likely the average being or person will be equipped with a rather sophisticated electronic brain of some sort, that enables one to be more or less free from biological dependencies. During this transitional phase, many such significant advancements will have been made, and the result wil be a rather well-ordered being that is compatably efficiently designed to function within the all new Light energy/propulsion system that I've been attempting to describe. IF you (right here now) could take a step a million years into the future, you would likely 'freak' at appearance of the average so-called person or being, but you would no doubt marvel at the progress or process by which civilization is survived, that is IF you could even recognize it. You would no doubt find yourself feeling a tad bit behind the times, and it's doubtful you would even be ableto survive in your current biological form or makeup. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:OT: TIME Magazine - Roswell Really Happened, Says Former CIA Agent
In the '1980 (?) Documentary UFO's Are Real (by Stanton Freidman) it was said by Jesse Marcel (the 1st commanding officer to visit the site) that some of the material retrieved had unbelievable properties. It was about the thickness of the foil in a Pack of Cigarettes, and was very light-weight strong. He also stated that they tried, but it could not be burned or cut. So, lets see now, what do we have here?... The Roswell Crash did not likely involve a weather balloon, because a weather balloon is most likely 'not' capable of innerstellar flight, SO, it was indeed a 'relatively' highly developed civilization of say, oh, maybe 10 million yrs or so ahead of us, of which, obviously possesses the ability to travel the vast distances of innerstellar space, but, simply had not yet worked-out all of the bugs, or imperfections. Well, all I can say about it is... give'm a few more million years and whatever problem it was that forced that craft into the ground, will absolutely be completely resolved. Likely, it was a design-flaw in the spec's, or maybe an unwanted molecule or spec of dust had somehow found it's as the Craft was being constructed. Maybe it just made it, from all the way from it's own star system for the first time way, and crash landed. Maybe this incident can serve as a lesson to all those would-be space-travelers that think an event like this can't happen. Maybe Our civilization someday in the not too distant future will run into this very same situation, when we had finally accomplished innerstellar flight only to crash-land on an earthtype planet w/ a civilization much like ours is now, far back in time in the beginning of RD the technology that will make it all happen! Sadly, somehow we can't seem to know this, and is of course a very sad story,,, so, we should seriously consider by-passing the next million years or so of 'only' getting to the point of 'conceiving' of the technology that will enable the one only truly mind boggling journey thru space time, like we never really fully imagined as opposed to say 'Never'! . I say, why wait for Time to leave 'our' world far behind, when we could be traveling the stars w/o trouble or fail. You snooze, you lose, because there is a 'future' unlike anything we might otherwise ever even hope to know, let alone actually be apart of. Communication via Radio transmitting receiving, along with this natural world that 'we' of this perfectly natural world are committed-to and/or attempting to outdo, has long since been done away with by highly advanced civilizations... and, I'd say 'them' are the hard cold facts. For me personally, I had more than an immense amount of trouble accepting these facts, But Now, it's all in the distant past. Amazingly enough, with the life that I have lived, I'm still here and dealing with a whole other Reality on a level I never dreamt I would in a million lifetimes (or, maybe I did). I now see the world around me for what it was, and that 'other' world of pure technological being that's currently operating up in the space above us, that we know next to absolutely nothing about,,, IS simply so very far beyond us, that we can only wonder about it, IF we're lucky we got a lot of work to do,,, before,,, it actually works for us/HTML
Re: [Vo]:The Annoying Thing About Self-Driving Cars: They Obey the Speed Limit
Maybe this problem could be by-passed either by disabling the GPS, or by applying some type of material to obstruct the speed-sensor. Should the vehicle be designed with a no-tampering mechanism, then, don't buy it. Another solution to this problem would be to build a vehicle that has no speed limit and/or requires no roads. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023
A somewhat costly state-of-the-art manned outpost of considerable size should be established on the Moon. Not only should it be designed for scientific research, but also as a tourist destination. Money to support this endeavor would come from taxes private capital, and/or tourism. Based on the current mode of technology, it's impractical or unwise to invest in any thing more than the current various probes in orbit and/or exploring the terrain their. The Moon would present more than enough of a challenge for establishing presence their, and at the same time provide us with a great deal of data for future endeavors. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Mars One - Humans on Mars in 2023
I say, why waste time going to Mars, when you can shoot for the stars! We need to set our goals and/or expectations higher or farther actually. While it would be a very cool thing to have some fellow Humans residing on Mars, it's getting there in a vastly improved capacity that will enable any destination in space more practical. BTW, I have a question about Venus's polar regions... Wouldn't they be a more likely choice to plan a scientific outpost or habitat, rather than Mars? Due to the distance, Mars tends to be too cold and it's terrain is too dry, so why even entertain the idea of trying to survive there? We should build space stations either in orbit and/or geosynchronous orbit around all the innerplanets and/or their satellites, and then make travel to those destinations on a regular basis. Trying to live in extreme conditions on an inhospitable planet doesn't make too much sense except for resources, and should be done on a limited basis. To me, it's more feasible to have space stations in thruout innerplanetary locations as a first step to permanently occupying space. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Milky Way and Andromeda collision
The Milky Way Galaxy should prepare to welcome the Andromeda Galaxy. By then, the universe will have expanded quite abit, and many of the nearby galaxies will have traveled considerably farther away from the Milky Way. But just think what it would be like when you look up at the nightsky and see twice as many stars, or maybe even an Earthtype planet with two Suns... talk about global warming! On second thought, maybe we should start thinking about developing an improved A-bomb of some type, and try to deflect Andromeda before it gets to close?. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Critique of Space Shuttle written in 1980
Most people who used a horse or a horse-drawn carriage back at the turn of the 20th Century had a initial negative reaction to the first gas powered vehicles, and usually shouted to it's driver to Get A Horse!!!. Don't get me wrong, because I like animals,,, but, horsepower perse needs revising. Instead of a very limited amount of mass-fuel to over-power the vehicle it's used in, a vastly improved means of utilizing a virtually unlimited energy source to produce a phenomenal speed could be used. All they have to do to get rid of mass-fuel and/or it's limited velocity of around 30,000 mph's (please, no exploding nukes for thrust is necessary), would be to start thinking in-terms of utilizing a newly developed *source* of energy, like some type of HENR. Simply by generating a sustained TPF total-pulling-force,,, which translates into the amount of centrifugal-force compensated by electromagnetic attraction-force so as to at least equal the EVW- entire vehicle weight,,, you would then have a considerably more reliable capable means of enabling you're biologically dependent disabled body to travel anywhere you can think of... which unfortunately is limited to innerplanetary destinations only. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:What was that?
I just wanted to say a few more words on That which has been up there since only *you know who* knows when. First, highly advanced civilizations spacecraft consist either of a highly reflective surface, while others are less so. Upon my doing some thorough research into this whole complete *other* matter over the many years (any all relative activity), and in-particular an actual daytime photo and/or video of an advanced spacecraft hovering motionless over a field at only about 2 hundred feet or so from the videocamera (forget hoax, as it could not be disproved),,, plus, a first-hand eyewitness account that described a craft that landed at night, in the very back of their property several hundred fet away,,, plus, what I would say is authentic video of this landed craft. The authenticity of this video could not be disproven, yet was regarded as such. At any rate, it had a bulb-like dome on it's underside that emitted a relatively bright light,,, thus, enabling me to conclude that some advanced spacecraft have some type of translucent obsidian material that can light up as bright as a sun (if you happen to be undeneath it. Some advanced spacecraft also consist of a highly reflective surface, while others do not, and/or consist more of a dulled-down metallic surface. So, over the many years of me not only observing the skies for countless hours w/ the unaided eye, seeing all those countless lights up in space doing all sorts of things, plus, a first-hand witness to a craft performing maneuvers in the daytime at about a mile or two distance, which had an eerily metallic-glow from the morning sun reflecting off of,,, as it went up and down around and back forth and up down again. As it maneuvered about in a 3 to 5 hundred foot range, it seem to emit a sort of swirling tail, which was obviously an optical effect, due to it's surface and angle to the sun. Now, I've done alot of homework over the years, and determined that many people have first-hand witnessed the direct effects and/or activities of a powerful energy-field being emitted from some of these highly advanced spaceraft. To sum it up , simply, the vegetation in this world and/or materials we produce have been structurally altered, such as soil dehydration or unable to absorb H2O, and/or conveted back into its base compound. Vegetation in the form of circles have been knocked down, trees magnetized, people subdued or knocked out, and/or their vehicle subdued while they were fully awake. All of these things are done w/o any physical contact and/or by an energyfield. Guages, instrumentation, electronic systems subdued or altered, radios jammed, or simply static. The list goes on on as to what has been happening over the years, but *not* on a level that affects the overall physche of the majority of people in our society, or on a mass scale... IOW's, most people now believe it's possible that other intelligent life could exist, however, there is no real proof. so, we'll have to search the stars for variations in their wobble, that can predict an earthsized planet (oh wel, it's better than nothing, I guess ). Now, I know this topic is OT (Obviously True), and besides, it's just too controversial, and is regarded by many level headed down to earth people (who have never actually looked up) who tend to be highly trained professionals, and obviously have a fear of being labeled spaced out however, it's all actually quite relative, and if you really wanted to, this whole complete other matter can be fully known by us, here now. For me, there no longer is any question about it, because Technological Heaven has been absolutely thoroughly accomplished, and it is *we* that have yet to develope that technology which will determine (beyond all doubt) fact from ficition, or reality from fantasy, or
Re: [Vo]:First Manned Rocket
Actually our common 'monkey' ancestors were test piloting rockets first. They were millions of years ahead of us. I guess the 'old saying that it's so easy a human can do it was true after all. Did the first manned rocket launch in 1961 carrying Yuri Gagarin? Or did it launch in 1933 carrying Otto Fischer? http://io9.com/5908728/did-the-germans-launch-a-crewed-rocket-into-space-in-1933 T /HTML
Re: [Vo]:What was that?
Sorry, this is late. I meant to reply to your post about that light, but time has been in short supply. At any rate, if you had been watching the nightsky over the years as much as I have, especially in a more studious manner, you would likely have noticed this light at least 5 times a year. About 12 yrs ago, I watched it as it came into view from due-west, traveling due east. It was almost what I'd say was a rather 'huge' not too bright yellow light (maybe what the sun might look like from jupiter), and traveling at a very high rate of speed, much moreso than the other more brighter white ones I've seen many times over the years. I watched it travel the entire sky from horizon to horizon (altho it was mostly dark) in about a half a minute. While it could have been mistaken for an airplane, that would 'only' be because you hadn't spent the previous 15 yrs studying the nightsky, and witnessed many a light show that were under *highly* intelligent control. I'll tell you right here now that most people who have their attention refocused by a strange obvious light on ocassion, simply don't have a reason or the time to look up at the nightsky on a regular basis. If they did however, and especially by letting *you know who* know that you're aware of them and their presence, I guarantee you that you will begin to see some very unbelievable sights. If you live in an area where there are no immediate bright street or city lights to obfuscate your view of the nightsky above you, then I would suggest you take advantage of it once while or as often as you can. You will see first-hand what has very highly likely been up there long before *our* time began. The only thing is that you will have trouble with what you're seeing, because first you allow yourself to look away right when it starts to get very interesting. It's not something you'll tend to even believe at first, or understand, and/or even a needd to relate to. All you'll essentially be able to do is to explain it away, so as to fit more easily into the boundaries of this limited world view (sorry, no offence). Over the many years, I have seen so very much that I no longer spend near as much time as I use to looking up. Many years ago already, I determined beyond any doubt that our civilization and/or human mode of being, and this good 'old planet earth that we are so very dependent upon for our survival, has for all intents purposes long since been obsolete. For me there's no longer a question about Evolution vs Creation, because the way I se it is that you simply can't have one without the other. Interesting enough, while we use powerful telescopes to peer into the beginning of the universe where when the first galaxies were just forming, and even beyond that where only a dark void exists, a highly advanced civilization has gone much Much farther than that, in that that void has been affected so as to bring about what we now call the universe. It looks to me is that *time* was created in time in an instant, after but before (it's so simple). Not only are *they* interpreting the world of matter/energy in a much more intracate detailed manner, but are operating it from afar, with absolute precision. What we're actually talking about is in-fact the real true Power of the Almighty, an unbelievably extremely well-coordinated or combined effort of many craft that emit a very powerful energy field that can pierce right into time itself. Now, I know what you're thinking, because I didn't quite believe it either at first,,, but there it is, never-the-less, in a nutshell. You can be sure of one thing, and that
Re: [Vo]:refrig question off topic
Probably a $5 switch, which shouldn't cost you more than 10 X's that for a repairman to install a new one. If my memory serves me incorrectly, about 10 ys ago, my folks had a similar problem, and it wasn't as big a problem as they thought. Over the past 5 yrs, I have typically installed and/or repaired a number of things that I previously otherwise wouldn't even have thought of attempting. I learned that if you've got the time, you can many things, and do them right the first time. All seriousness aside, one time I built a UFO from scratch, and even tho it took me a 100 million yrs, it was well worth it. I have a GE refrigerator side by side purchased in 2002. It costs $1000 at that time new. It stopped cooling. I cleaned the condenser in the back rear of the cabinet. It started making ice again. The temp in the freezer runs at +10F. Its 50F in the cooler section. The compressor is running quietly, however, it never shuts off. The output high pressure pipe is warm to the touch. Its not to hot to hold it. The drip pan coils are room temp. It has at least two thermocouples. The evaporator is not iced up. Is it OK?. What is the most likely problem? Compressor replacement is $600. Could a compressor go bad? Any ideas on things to try? Frank Znidarsic /HTML
Re: [Vo]:refrig question off topic
Ah, well you obviously know more about these things than I. We have about a 50 yr old Westinghouse fridge in the garage that still works fine, and it probably will be long after we're all gone. Thanks, its either the compressor or low on gas. I told refrigerators do not last any more than 10 years. I read that it can be low and gas without a major leak. The gas seeps out of GE units over a period of ten years. I bought an in line tap and gauges for about $35. I am going to try to add some 135 by myself. If I break it, its already broke and maybe I'll learn something. this is what I am attempting. I let you know how it comes out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXdn1f0wzH0 Frank Z /HTML
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Nevada doesn't need drivers anymore
But of course! who wouldn't want one? However, I want a vehicle that can travel the stars w/o trouble or fail, detect a dust-sized particle a million miles in advance, bring me back to life, or enable me with immortality, and/or leave all other spacecraft in the dust... no 'ifs' 'ands' or 'buts' about it. The problem is that it already exists, and is so very sophisticated that noone of this time can recognize, perceive, and/or conceive of it. Something can perform what we tend to consider phenomenal, extraordinary or unbelievable, and/or hover motionless w/o a sound, tends to leave one only in disbelief, confused, and maybe feeling abit downright BS'd. And second, who wants a car that has a mind of it's own, that can potentially determine that it doesn't like the way it's been treated lately, and decides to crash itself, thus ridding itself of the owner? *I* would want a car like this. As I pointed out in my book, for thousands of years everyone had cars like this. They were called horses. Horses have minds of their own; they know the way home as well as you do; and they are far more likely to shake you off and run away than any computer controlled car will be. Orders of magnitude more likely. Some are downright ornery. See my book, chapter 17: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/RothwellJcoldfusiona.pdf Note that Arthur Clarke made the point about horses before I did. He thought of everything. - Jed /HTML
Re: [Vo]:[OT] Nevada doesn't need drivers anymore
Oh boy, I can't wait not to own one. No really, this car sounds like an owners dream come true. There's just a few questions that automatically come to mind First, it will likely have to drive people to fro for fares in-order to earn an income, resulting in high maintenance costs, so, how will it afford to maintain itself? And second, who wants a car that has a mind of it's own, that can potentially determine that it doesn't like the way it's been treated lately, and decides to crash itself, thus ridding itself of the owner? Nevada has issued the first license for a self driving car: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SELF_DRIVING_CAR?SITE=APSECTION=HOMETEMPLATE=DEFAULTCTIME=2012-05-07-16-58-47 at the moment only for testing purposes. mic /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Key to Extraterrestrial Messages
Advanced Civilizations are currently operating up in space in a whole complete highly sophisticated capacity. Not only can they read us like a book inside out, but also all matter energy that makes up our world. Eons Ago Eons To Go Any takes on this? http://www.ufodigest.com/article/official-et-disclosure-nsa-document-admits-et-contact-kevin-w-smith I did some basic checks, and it's real (plus, the original document is posted in the NSA website). My takes, in descending order of likelihood, are: - An internal NSA experiment/joke. - An external to NSA (i.e. at governmental level) experiment/joke. - A fine example of Russian sense of humor. - An actual extraterrestrial communication. Regards, Mauro /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Ignition
Now, all we need to do in-order to get to Mars quickly, so we can colonize or occupy it, would be to dramatically increase our consumption of coal, oil, diesel, gas, right here on Earth,,, thus turning human-compatable atmosphere into that of Mars,,, thus saving the cost and rather lengthy process of trying to convert Mars atmosphere into a more Human suitable one, like Earths... Brilliant I tell you,,, absolutely brilliant! The main one is silane - which is a molecule like methane but with silicon at the core instead of carbon. Robert Zurbin suggest this in The Case for Mars: The Plan to Settle the Red Planet and Why We Must and NASA has picked up on it, so I guess it is accurate. http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-Mars-Settle-Planet/dp/0684835509 The atmosphere of Mars is mostly of carbon dioxide 95+%. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Self Bending Light..into a circle=?
Well, all I can say is, if you would have taken the amount of time I have over the yrs, to look up into the nightsky (no telescope) over the years, looking up in the nightsky, you would have more-than-likely seen any number of star-light lights way-up in-space in-orbit orbit traveling along at some relative speed,,, of which, many have performed obvious arcing turns,,, and/or, decelerated to a dead-stop in a matter of 10 sec's or so,,, and/or speed back up in a completely different direction until reaching a relative orbital speed. I've watched countless numerous single lights varying in magnitude, and/or flash light from very dim to so bright, that it almost knocks you off your feet. I've seen multi-orders coordinate their light, so as to make you think a *craft* is down low moving slowly over the residential area that you live in. Two obvious shapes of these multi ordered lights, were circular triangular, and a few others appeared as somewhat small constellations. I've watched the singular lights flash in some random-order, while others flashed in a repetative sequence or pattern. I've watched several that were just cruising along, but would shut-off right at at the position of a stationary star. I've also seen a number of incidences where one light would just be traveling along in a straight line, and shut-off exactly as another one would come-in (no light) from a 90 deg angle and turn-on... wow, it's just amazing... a 90 deg turn at at least 10,000 mi's per hr ... yeah sure! why not!.. I can only say that that was some phenominally unbelievable maneuvering the likes of which, I simply don't believe !. The joke of it is that, no-matter what anyone down here may think about it, what has been going-on up there, has been well-before 'our' time began ha, now all we have to do is figure it all out (I already did that). Just so you know, everything we produce is a response to what has been seen over the countless years out of the corner of our eye, and/or directly in front of some of us, up close personal, and/or first-hand witnesses that described *you-know-who* boo, your hooody! Greetings Vortex-L Self Bending Light: http://phys.org/news/2012-04-physicists-maxwells-equations-self-bending.html Respectfully, Ron Kita, Chiralex /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Higher Spins and Holography
Ask yourself one simple question about *This* universe.. you know, the one that we can observe and/or live by certain rules in. Consider that the universe is almost 14 billion yrs old, and then consider how old this star system is and how long it took to get where we are. Now consider what our society has accomplished in the past two hundred fifty years or so, and so, imagine what a civilization could achieve in the time before our star system even existed. The Human Race is in it's infancy, and has just begun what will be a Very VERY long road... or until roads are No longer required. Von: Guenter Wildgruber gwildgru...@ymail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 21:48 Samstag, 14.April 2012 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Higher Spins and Holography /HTML
[Vo]:[OT] Advanced Intelligence / Energy
Here is some related info about the functions being performed within the energy-field emitted within the immediately proximity underneath an IFO, of which, when allowing yourself to by-pass all of the naturally down-to-earth understandable confusion IS an extremely sophisticated Spacecraft, and/or the ultimate goal/achievement of a civilization. Simply put, this whole complete *other* system essentially utilizes a very powerful energy-source, in a very direct way, so as to instantaneously enable inputs outputs to be regulated, thereby resulting in the ability to perform any maneuver. 'Not' performing any significant maneuver, should enable that power to be used instead to perform a variety of functions, such as altering the structural make-up of materials, or neutralizing negative elements, or creating new ones. This altogether (yet) undiscovered *System* (by us) at some point in the distant past or future (depending on whichever you're in) would either be inadvertently conceived-of, or stumbled upon or possibly theorized, long after this human mode of being has been more-or-less replaced, outdone, and/or obsoleted. This system implies that the ultimate goal of the elimination of all friction, mechanical energy and/or biological dependencies has been thoroughly achieved. It's likely that countless civilizations thru-out the billions of galaxies are either just in the beginning stage of RD'ing this system, and as many are traveling to fro the countless stars, and/or living among them in an altogether diferent highly capable capacity. This system essentially enables a civilization to rid themselves once and for all, the natural pending circumstances that dictated the terms of survival. The fundamental principle by which this system operates is relatively simple, as only a few relatively simple things are required in order for it to operate efficiently. It is all pending on the specific dimensions of an SRC that is engineered w/ an imbalance of approx 1-lb of weight to one side or part. Typically, 1-oz would potentially disable any RA (rotor assembly) from spinning at any significant rate, and so, the solution to making it spin exceedingly fast would be to engineer an housing of electromagnetics (in-sections), so as to surround the specifically engineered SRC. The main idea is to equally compensate the C-force, by electromagnetic attraction-force,,, thus enabling a significant amount of C-force to be generated and sustained. If the Overall Pulling Force is considerably more that the Total Vehicle Weight, it can then rather easily be controlled by regulate energy to specific sections of the surrounding housing of electromagnetics (in-sections). If this system is made powerfully efficient enough, it should, upon startup, be able to attain the required 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) very rapidly, so as to avoid behavioral problems (wh!!!). Once a stable behavior and/or lack of it, has been achieved, it would simply be a matter of engineering a like-efficient Craft, equipped with several Light Energy Systems to produce a significant amount of TPF (total pulling force). maybe 3 to 5 X's more than the TVW. The unforseen advantage of powerfully energizing electromagnetics to compensate an equal C-force will come into play and/or be realized, because an all new powerful energy-field will present itself and leave you wondering what to do with it. At any rate, from there, it'll be a relatively (mind boggling) simple matter of building a new altogether perfected compatably integrated intelligent process, that will allow you to move-in (so to speak), thus enabling you to leave this world of antimatter far-behind. As miraculous as this energy-field will appear, it will enable you to perform a functions without any physial contact whatsoever, thus enabling you to do *things* you were once quite
Re: [Vo]:Massive free energy - in the hood
A UFO perse, as in an IFO and/or extremely advanced sophisticated
spacecraft from other older star-systems (that harbored a earthtype planet w/ a
civilization much like ours now {you know, humanosaurs} according to original
authentic genuine first-hand eyewitness accounts of well-grounded human
beings,,, do indeed emit some type of energy-field within it's immediate
proximity
underneath, of which, various types of sophisticated activities are
carried-out, including the levitation and controll of a small baseball-sized
sphere
of light and/or lazer beams. (I believe this was one of several craft
seen, up-close, by the belgium police,,, known as the Belgium Flap in the early
90's)
Another report was conveyed by military personel on a
military base (Rendelsham) in England back in late Dec of 1980., that
described a sequence of events involving an unknown Craft that made no sound or
exhibited no sign of propulsion. An officer and a severl men had approached
this craft hovering motionless 5 or so feet above the ground, and they said
it's surface was unlike anything they'd ever seen before. The Craft had
emitted some very small intense beams of light, and some basketball sized
sphere of light/energy, that burst into several smaller spheres, of which
rather
quickly burned-out or disappated.
The video clip from The Larry King Show shows a clip of a UFO that I
would bet is ball lightning.
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Re: [Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
The best way I can think of to get a prototype of the one system that will enable star travel a few hundred years or so, would be to draw-up a proposal and/or contract with NASA. About 10yrs ago, NASA had developed a motor or rotor that could maintain a rate of 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's), and that data would be detrimental. Not too long ago, NASA had also been considering and/or was in the early stages of developing a Spaceplane that would take-off like a plane, and then reach orbit. I think it's development was stopped or discontinued due to an insoluble aerodynamic issue, because they couldn't accurately conduct any test at the required Mach 22 (?) inordewr to attain orbit. At any rate, this whole complete 'other' system that I'd like to propose, is all-but ideal for propelling that wannabe Spaceplane, because it could attain orbit at only Mach 1 or 2. Upon reaching space at this speed, you would then initiate a proper RTO, and if so desired, generate a rather unhealthy G force (you know, for humans), which will enable you to reach orbital-speed in only a matter of a few seconds. Now, I fully realize that a Spaceplane that uses this 'other' system will require some highly developed form of HENR system, thus some very special sensitive attention to detail must be considered upon it's TOD (time of departure). IOW's, you don't want to plan your TOD in a tornado or hurricane (obviously), but should any trouble arise in your immediate path ahead, this system/craft has the maneuvering capabilities that could enable you to rather easily avoid it. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
If a Spaceplane was equipped with 3-ea Light Energy Systems, that could produce a combined TPF equal to that of the EVW, the Spaceplane could accelerate down the runway at a fairly good rate. It would obviously be advantageous if the TPF was at least double the EVW, because then you'd be enable with VTO capability, otherwise weighty landing-gear of some type will be required, and of course you'd no longer be able to attain orbit at any speed, you desired. Also, considering a Spaceplane the rough equivalent size of a larger private jet, or a smaller commerical jet (707?) would most likely cost around a Billion Dollars or so, you would of course want to avoid making any crash landings. Not to mention if the HENR was compromised and/or went supernova, which of course, would most likely eliminate any problems you had previously. So, the idea would be to take the time to build this rather sophisticated spaceplane as good as humanly possible, which of course, would likely only be satisfactory by you know who's standards. Now, we wouldn't want to offend our highly advanced caretakers above by sending more garbage into space, so as to make them stir-up a few earthquakes or violent storms, or whathaveyou, and/or enrage them enough that they go out in the solar system and alter the path of a fairly large comet or asteroid, so as to collide with our already half destroyed planet,,, would we? (I shouldn't have to ask) /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
Yeah, I've seen all the episodes, just recently over the past year or so, but especially when I was only 7 or 8 yrs old, some 50 yrs ago. At that age I was mostly scared half outta my wits by alot of that stuff, but it also inspired me to persue the reality of how this civilization has been intervened upon, motivated, and/or influenced by our extremely advanced caretakers, and/or creators currently operating up in space, w/o our knowledge and/or so much as anyone of us believing or having faith in IT, instead and/or as opposed to the rather meaningless spritual god that most honest down to earth people tend to believe in... they can't handle the truth, not if they saw with their own two eyes what that so-called god actually looks like... no friggin way! The energy being. http://www.hulu.com/watch/63084/the-outer-limits---original-galaxy-being /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
As usual, upon re-reading the paragraph below, a typo with potentially devastating consequences was detected,,, and now reads correctly IOW's, if a certain vehicle had a TPF (total pulling force -Centrifugal-force equalled by Electromagnetic-attractive induced force) that was 3-X's that of the OVW (overall vehicle weight),,, would it be possible to levitate various items of a certain-weight that DOESN'T exceed the overall capacity of the gravitation field ? /HTML
Re: [Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
I know that before I ask any technical questions, I should first have a somewhat good working knowledge of the subject matter (no ifs, ands, or buts),,, however, its not too difficult to understand that centrifugal-force is generated when an object is moving in a curved path acting outward from a center of rotation, and centripetal force is what is needed to keep an object revolving about a point moving in a circular path (simpull) So, the theory behind the System I propose, will be to generate utilize a significant amount of C-force on a continuous basis, thus enabling an altogether powerfully new efficient viable form of propulsion. So, can anyone present a legitimate arguement why electromagnetic attraction-force could not enable a specifically engineered SRC with an imbalance of 1-lb or so, to be compensated, so as to enable it to spin as if it were perfectly balanced? Putting it simply, is it not within reason to think that if an average sized tire/wheel (on an average automobile) was imbalanced with 1-lb on one side of it, that upon you going for a joy-ride and reaching 100-Mph's (about 25-revs per sec), the wheel would tend to shake quite severely, likely resulting in a blow-out, sending you in the ditch? So, in considering this, wouldn't it be safe to assume that if you engineered a wheel with an imbalance of 1-lb, but compensated it with electromagnetic attractive-force, so as to enable it to spin at very high rate of 60,000 Rpm's, thereby generating many thousands of -lbs of C-force? So, the question what would prevent the building of a System that can do what I propose? I don't see any reason why a System couldnt be engineered to generate maintain a TPF (total pulling force) significantly more than the OVW (overall vehicle weight). The only thing (so far) from stopping this System from being made is that no-one has heard about this potentially altogether powerful new form of energy/propulsion, and IF it was vigorously RD, it wouldn't be too long at all before it's fully discovered to have the potential to perform any maneuver, and/or reach extreme speeds. By regulating energy via an RTO (rapid timing order) in System's SHOE, of which, is powering a specifically engineered powerfully efficient vehicle/craft, you'd essentially now be able to *pro-ject* a powerful electromagnetic attractive force, whereby, upon a precise RTO, you thereby attempt to catch up to it, thus increasing the speed of the vehicle till At some point, you're traveling in the extreme,,, and, I'd be willing to bet if you were traveling aboard a vehicle/craft that uses these Systems, that this good 'old Earth would pass-by eerily similar to when a Billboard goes by, when you're driving in your auto down the Freeway. Now, if you wanted to stop in and make your presence known to a few inhabitants on good 'old Earth, all you have to do is plot-out your RTO well in advance, say maybe back at Saturn or Jupiter, or, depending on just how efficient you and your vehicle is, maybe Mars (but I doubt it)? So anyway, I look forward to any constructive advice as to why if an earnest effort was committed to the RD of a small-scale prototype of this System, that we (that's right, good 'old down-to-earth archaic outdated ancient prehistoric biologically extinct human beings there, I said it... alright?) wouldn't have the *Real* thing in as little as a 100 yrs or so... better make it 200 (just to be sure). Now, I wouldn't be too concerned, right now, about eliminating all of this biologically dependent human stuff, because there'll be plenty of time to build a newly improved intelligent-process that doesn't require air, nutrients, liquids, or flesh, blood, organs, cellular-reproduction, wear,
[Vo]:Advanced Theory of Energy/Being
Now, I know my technical training and/or terminology needs improving, but I believe I can adequately describe the 'one' means of technology that is enabling significantly advanced civilizations to operate and/or exist in the very space above us, as 'we' go about the business of living (you know... breathing, breeding, aging, passing-on?) So, my question/theory or query is, how could HENR (high energy nuclear reaction) be used to power a System consisting of a Housing of Electromagnetic (in-sections) that closely surrounds a specifically imbalanced SRC (spinning rotor center). The SRC basically consists-in two parts - 1/6-th of the total circle/pie being engineered with magnetically induced properties, and is of a certain lighter-weight than the other opposite 1/6th of the cirlce/pie, which is of a heavier weight, and w/o any properties. The goal is to spin this specifically engineered SRC at a very high rate of Rpm's, at least 60,000 Rpm's, by compensating the imbalance of the lighter 1/6th part of the SRC, via the SHOE (surrounding housing of electromagnetics) so as to interact, thus enabling the production maintaining of a significant amount of C-force, to overtake or overpower the EVW (entire vehicle weight). The second part of my question or query is, if this whole complete System were to be engineered with highly efficient materials that can maintain their certain specific properties and/or structural integrity, would it be possible to generate a gravitational field, and capable of levitating various items that don't exceed capacity? IOW's, if a certain vehicle had a TPF (total pulling force -- Centrifugal-force equalled by Electromagnetic-attractive induced force) that was 3-X's that of the OVW (overall vehicle weight),,, would it be possible to levitate various items of a certain-weight that does exceed the overall capacity of the gravitation field ? Also, by utilizing an RTO (rapid timing order - rapid regulating of energy to specific sections in the SHOE) would it be possible to regulate the gravitational-field so as to levitate and/or 'lift' a specifically weighted item, at a certain rate? Now, I know this is all somewhat assuming, however, I am convinced that all of this could be done, if at least 99.999 % of all friction and/or mechanical energy could be eliminated. It would obviously require a rather extensive in-depth combined effort of various related Scientists, Engineers, and/or Physicists, to RD the highly specified and/or compatable materials, that could enable this whole complete 'other' Perfected Independent State of Light Energy/Propulsion to be. Does anyone outthere know how to put together a proposal together that can appear at least intelligent enough to qualify for a Gov., grant?. The way I see it is if $100's of Millions of dollars can be granted to all those 'green' or not-so green technology, why couldn't a piddly half a $Billion or so be granted for the RD of IFO technology? I can hear it now... Sorry, but IFO technology simply cannot exist, as we've already traveled the entire galaxy and/or universe in our time-traveling, wormhole-producing, antigravity device, and didn't find anyone else as intelligent as us. Then, you'll hear them sayNo wait,,, those things are only being worked-on by some enthusiastic highly trained Sci-Fi buffs, who have everyone fooled into thinking it's possible. One thing I've learned over the years, is, never put faith in the human spirit of being, of which 'perse is actually based-on a very highly sophisticated process in which is enabling highly advanced civilizations to not only interpret matter energy in an all new powerful intracate detailed capacity, but are operating it via a combined effort, the likes of which this civilization will not fully develope in the next 10 million years! As much as I
Re: [Vo]:LINR... Light Inertia Nuclear Reaction?
No you didn't. I saw strange lights therefore aliens /HTML
[Vo]:LINR... Light Inertia Nuclear Reaction?
Considering that I've spent the better part of the last 30-yrs watching the nightskies, and what I've seen with my very own two eyes, and, down here above the good earth, I have been lead to an undeniable conclusion (beyond all doubt) that our world and/or civilization is host to extremely advanced civilizations that consist-of various shaped-craft, comprised of extremely sophisticated technology, and/or a process second-to-none. Now whatever you do, please don't think that I don't realize what I claim, may seem rather presumptuous or even preposterous,,, however, what I have observed on more occasions than I can count, simply cannot be construed, misperceived, convoluted, distorted, denied, and/or disregarded. On numerous occasions, it was more than just obvious that a coordinated-light-effort was conducted, plus, Hi-G maneuvers, configurations of lights resembling small star-clusters or constellations, which were moving along at some relative orbital-speed up in-space on a perfectly clear star-lit night (no moon). Now, I know that all true down to earth scientists need to be committed to the actual study of the sciences, but never-the-less, on two seperate occasions down here, in a remote area of Nth E NV., an order of 7-ea red white lights in the shape of a craft, had moved very slowly just above across the field several hundred feet away, w/o any hint of a sound or propulsion whatsoever. On one occasion about 20-yrs ago now, I watched a very obvious daytime sighting of a craft that performed a variety of maneuvers as it went up, down, around, back and forth, and up, around again, all within about a 300-ft range or so, down between 2 hills, out of radar range of the near-by airport. Now, I know this subject is OT, which can either represent Off or On Topic, because it depends (of or off course) whether or not you can perceive (relatively speaking) of how this pertains to everything 'we've' done, or are currently doing, or will in the future All I can say is that anyone down here, that doesn't think our civilization (down thru the many ages) has been motivated, compelled, enticed, lured, driven, and/or forced into persuing 'that' which comes down, and goes back up,,, as opposed to the usual accepted wisdom that, that which goes up, must come back down,,, there's a rather huge difference! What it actually comes down to, is a simple matter of the rather unbelievable vast difference of 'our' technical INabilities, which, is dependent upon and/or dictated by a very limited set of principles and/or natural pending circumstances, from those which have long since achieved true absolute perfection in space!. Now, only Time will tell whether I'm right-on the money or not, however, thats exactly what time will do it'll make a civilization become exactly on time, in time. Time will run it's course, and by the time it does, a civilzation is enabled w/ the enormous ability to travel to any star-system with a civilization that may be at any time in their development (accept of course for those who are currently so very highly developed, that they already have our civilization alreday fully anticipated (programe?) Well, it's time for me to move along, as time is running out on me, as usual. So, until next time, please allow yourself to take some time to conceive of just what can be achieved in time,,, because if you don't, it'll leave you so far behind that you'll tend to think you've got all the time in the world. Quickly now, just a few punny funs with time. It's time to get down to business I just wish time didn't fly-by so fast (hint hint)... If I get the time, I'm gonna get caught up... Does anyone know what time it is, because I seem to have lost track... Please, whatever you do,
[Vo]:Highly ENRgized C-force ='d by E-force ='s IFO
I know there's a certain amount of determination and/or enthusiasm to come-up with a viable LENR system that can produce an output significantly more that the input, but I think persuing a HENR with little or no radioactive waste, should be given equal consideration,,, which, I'm sure already is. Aside from this, I think in-order for our society to grow w/o further destruction to the already threatened environment and/or populace, we should consider implementing a relatively inexpensive way to increase efficiency in all future buildings constructed. By utilizing the insulating-effect of concrete, bricks, and/or ground soil, a temp of around 72 deg's F. can rather easily be maintained. The utilization of solar energy related systems would be somewhat ideal for most of these buildings, altho expendable non-renewables like coal, oil, diesel, gas, battery-power back-up systems what-have-you can always serve as a back-up when solar production is at a minimum. I like the idea of LENR, but when it comes to Ifo technology, I'd like to see HENR be vigorously compatably efficiently integrated with the 'One' powerfully efficient capable propulsion system that wil likely enable that to happen. I simply see no reasonable explanation for not persuing the 'one' 'only' means of technology that will enable us to travel to Mars back to earth, in less time it takes to ready a rocket for launch. First tho, I need to know if there's anyone out there who knows how to calculate the regulating of energy to a Housing of Electromagnetic sections, of which is configured to closely surround an SRC (spinning armature center), which is engineered with an imbalance of 1-lb or so. The approximate size of this SRC would be that of a larger size wheel/tire, with a diameter of 36 X 12 thick, spinning at a rate of 1,000 Rps's. The main goal is to generate maintain a TPF (total pulling force) of 2 tons or so, which basically is accomplished by compensating the imbalance of Centrifugal-force by Inducing Electromagnetic Attraction-Force from the SHOE (surrounding housing of electromagnetic sections) into the specially designed/engineered SRC. Now please, whatever you do, the Aliens currently operating up in space are more-or-less counting on no-one down here persuing this far at least a million years or so, and will likely cause us extreme hardship for even thinking about attempting to build this IFO Technology. I am hoping someone OTOH will discontinue their devotion or obedience to those wannabe dictator Aliens above, because they know no-one would dare even think about persuing this whole complete 'other' matter. At any rate, if I could acquire the assistance of several qualified scientists, engineers and/or physicists, to build a small scale prototype of the 'one' only system that will enable mankind to travel 'real' space in 'real' time in a drastically reduced timeframe, I would more than happy to share any monetary award upon it's completion,,, which will likely be around $1 trillion dollars or so, or equivalence-of in Gold Bullion,,, which, after all is said done, I'll receive only about .0001 % of (what'a ripoff !)... Now anyone, please tell me what a star system is worth? because this powerfully efficient altogether sophisticated energy/propulsion system is not something that the Beverly Hillbillies could hope to fully appreciate. You see, essentially, it will enable that once-upon-a-time good 'old natural born country life far down below on good 'old planet earth, to be left Far FAR behind (I shoe-eat miss it already). /HTML
Re: [Vo]:HENR?
Fisson is most likely the answer, but not the way it's currently being used. Now as for the spelling of Loren, it's generally reserved for the male,,, Lauren for the Female. I like to think of myself as a Male, because of my biological make-up. Of course OTOH, if I got too close to a fission reactor wihtout proper protection, it most likely wouldn't make much difference? In fact all fission reactors are the answer to his (her?) question. ;) /HTML
Re: [Vo]:HENR?
Thanks, but I'm searching for something more on the line of exact. At any rate, I'll certainly check-out whatever I can to add to my understanding of all this energy and matter stuff. The pebble bed reactor design is the closest thing to what you are seeking. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pebble_bed_reactor /HTML
[Vo]:RE: HENR?
Right, that's somewhat how I thought they operated, and so my follow-up question is what if the energy being produced simply wasn't distributed 'perse to various facilities or buildings, facilities, households, or what-have-you,,, but instead rather, for a more highly efficient purpose or function? IOW's, instead of simply expending energy, why not use it in a more highly efficient manner, so as to enable it to operate on a self-sustaining mode. Now, the purpose of having a self-sustaining Plant (no energy expended) would first be to eliminate any radioactive-waste by-product. The other main idea or benefit to having a powerfully efficient self-sustaining system would of course depend on the development of some new revolutionary breakthrough engineering skills, that can enable an altogether new compatable form of propulsion (yet unknown to us) to be directly integrated within the Plant, so to operate at peak performance, on-demand. That is exactly what a nuclear power plant does... (well, not yet...) Regards, Adrian Ashfield /HTML
[Vo]:HENR?
If I may, I'd like to ask a question. Now I don't want to look as tho I'm fairly ignorant and/or without any certifiable knowledge of the production of energy, and particularly nuclear physics, not to mention somewhat computer illiterate, plus a lousy typist comunicator,,, however, I've been attempting to understand some basic things about LENR, and/or HENR (low vs's high). Well, for what it's worth, here's my question What if instead of splitting atoms to produce the destructive energy of an atomic bomb, the potential of that energy could be released slowly, in a more controllable manner? IOW's, if certain materials and super-low temps were compatably engineered within a highly contained environment, whereas a chain-reaction can be held in a sort-of stasis or state, would it be possible to tap into this energy to power-up or down,,, while not reaching critical-mass (or is that a good thing?) Sorry, I know I should probably refrain from asking questions that don't necessarily concern humankind, but somehow those IFO's currently up in the space above us, are able to perform rather extraordinary maneuvers on-demand and in-order to do that, must involve a powerfully capable (as of yet, here) unknown power-source? Thanks for your help,,, that's IF you know what I'm trying to do here (maybe if the energy was high, the interest would be too )?/HTML
Re: [Vo]:read Stanton Friedman's Flying Saucers and Science
Yes, good 'old Stanton F Now, while he was an expert on nuclear propulsion back in the 50's,,, and he certainly has made a living doing lectures on flying saucers and ufos and/or the Gov coverup,,, a fact still remains that no-one down here will likely ever know the full extent of the extremely highly developed level of sophistication and capacity of the technology that advanced civilizations have created over the millions if not billions of years,,, that is now enabling them to 'Be' in-space (in the absolute), as opposed to living a relatively short-lived life down here (thanks, but no thanks). There's only one system that can take us to the stars w/o trouble or fail,,, not 2, 3, 4, or 12, or 20,,, just 'One' and 'Only' One. Technological perfection will take many thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, or millions of years of phenomenally costly RD of the highly specified materials, along with the 'One' process that can enable a Perfected Independent Light Energy/Propulsion State to be achieved',,, of which, can only happen when all mechanical-energy and/or this dibilitating biological-baggage has been completely eliminated (bummer!). Sadly, for our race of times-long-past biologically-dependent human beings, and/or the mode of functionality associated with it, we will not likely soon, even consider the One System that simply put, has no equal,,, of which, is largely due to the hard cold fact that it is not as simple as most humanosaurs tend to think (actually, dinosaurs did alot of chomping chewing, while consuming mass quantites). Stanton does a chapter on nuclear propulsion, which he worked on in the 1950's. I had no clue how far along this technology was. If we would have continued we may have had probes at the nearest stars by now. Then again we may have had another nuclear mess. I liked the idea of ejecting fast neutrons as a propellant. They go at 10% the speed of light and may have produced a measurable continuous thrust for some time. The goal is one g of thrust for one year, that would get us out there. Shielding was a problem with nuclear reactors in space and, perhaps, the shielding effect of cold fusion may now offer a solution, I don't know. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:The Smith LENR Prize
Does anyone know of anyone, Org, Co, etc, who is either interested-in and/or willing to fund a working prototype of the 'one' 'only' propulsion system that is enabling extremely Advanced Civilizations to not only travel interstellar space w/o trouble or fail, but live among the stars (and our world) in a whole complete different way... No, I suppose not! Right now, as it stands, no-one down here among us humanosaurs 'thinks' that there could possibly be 'other' civilizations operating in the very space above us, but never-the-less, I am beyond convinced that 'they' have been up there for countless millions, if not billions of years, and/or before this star system existed. To be sure, there is a means of technology and/or propulsion system that took many thousands of years to perfect, because without it, you simply cannot go the distance What we're talking about is an altogether powerfully efficient means of generating a significant amount of sustained centrifugal-force (to overpower the entire weight of a like vehicle/craft), controlled with electromagnetic force. This would be a relatively simple thing to do, and quite simply is what has defied us (mankind), ever since our ancestors fell out of the trees. Sadly, this system is non-human compatable (to say the least), because biological dependencies were undoubtedly obsoleted countlessmillions if not billions of years ago, and/or eon. The biggest challenge we face, is first, dealing with the fact that an altogether highly sophisticated mode of being and/or intelligent process has long since completely replaced this very limited human mode of being or functionality why? because its downright immoral. To me however, it's a downright shame really that 'we' (humanosaurs) of this time place in other space, will never likely know what true immortality is surely all about... All I can recommend is that you go ahead and take a step into the future like you never thought you could and, you'll soon 'know' the difference, as opposed to only believing or wondering about it. Its' simply a matter of, Eons Ago!. Eons To Go! So, I say why put off tomorrow (when you're not here) what you can do today!. The 'real' future will simply require a whole complete new approach in producing and controlling energy, to travel the stars (or the heavens,as they once said), forever more. The way I see it is, if we don't persue this one only whole complete 'other' system, then why bother at all with what we're doing, right now,,, if only to enable our future relatives to someday enjoy an exquisite immaculate immortal heavenly existence. The trouble is that 'We' of this time, tend to let the obvious confusion of our relatively limited vision to capture our immediate attention, and gets the better of us. Now, until you realize that 'nature' essentially defeats our purpose, and/or is used against us, then IT will continue to get over us, as opposed to US getting over it,,, and/or, the terms of our survival are no-longer dictated by it. The imperceivable IS indeed perceivable, but not, if you do only what you are capable of, or expected to. While it's quite diffiicult for our very down to earth human nature to reason that this natural world has been left FAR behind (so to speak), it is never-the-less possible for us to consider starting-out in an all new direction. Someday, preferably much-sooner than later, 'we' will be enabled with new-found mobilty that will allow to enjoy true freedom independence,,, the likes of which we all strive for, one way or another. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Cut Cut... my statement below was intervened upon by 'someone' who can operate from within my feeble intelligence process, w/o my knowledge. Two words, 'only' and 'navigated' were somehow kept from being typed in the last sentence, and have now been re-included. This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system that will not only enable us to travel space in the extreme, but as to how it is interpreted or navigated /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Antigravity can 'only' have what might be considered an on-board application, and so, anyone who has either a vested-interest, or money, or great faith in it, simply doesn't know about the enormous potential of the yet undiscovered system, that can have no equal. While it does require a moving part spinning at a very high rate of Rpm's, it's the only way to generate the principle dynamic force that will enable an altogether powerfully new efficient form of 'independent' propulsion that will enable a like vehicle/craft to travel space in the extreme, to anywhere that may be at anytime (read it weep!). As I read of Jed and his predictions I wonder will his be bettor or worse. They had the right idea in 1912 but the wrong implementation. No one had a clue of the coming internet until it happened. Some see only tragedy. I see anti-gravity and cold fusion. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
This is what I said to NASA about 3 years ago. I also mentioned that the rotor they had gotten to spin at a sustained 60,000 Rpm's (1,000 Rps's) back in ' 2001 (?), was absolutely essential in-order to achieve the Independent State of Energy/Propusion in what I am convinced is the one system that will not enable us to travel space in the extreme, but as to how it is interpreted. It's a matter of powerfully energizing electromagnetic-force to compensate an equally powerful centrifugal or centripedal force, that will result in a whole new form of energy-field. I doing so, will essentially enable a whole complete variety of functions to be performed, without any physical contact... it's simply a matter of a million years or so, of some serious in-depth RD. Radio transmissions might be an ancient form of communications to an advanced civilization. It could be like us talking to each other with smoke signals. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Ion-propulsion is highly inefficient, but because it produces only a limited amount of power, the equivalence of a piece of paper resting on your hand (please, whatever you do don't sneeze), it has a limited use. Now, Antigravity is believed to have great potential, especially because it has no moving-parts, but, it is not independent technology, and/or require a highly specialized condition/base in-order for a vehicle to operate, which, renders it mostly unuseable. Now, the undiscovered potential of the system I propose, does consist of A single moving-part, however, it is the only way the essential principle force can be generated so an altogether 'different' type of vehicle/craft to do what is currently sought-after in one way or another. There is also an enthusiastic 'following' of people favor or support a 'nonlinear-mode' of travel (opposed to 'linear' ) for traversing the vast distances of space in a very reduced time-frame,,, that wil supposedly use powerful electromagnets to produce a gravitational- force so-powerful that it can bend or distort space, so as to by-pass it altogether. A wormhole, blackhole and/or hyper/warp-drive system (hint hint, there's only one that comes close), are presumed to enable F.T.L. (faster-than-light) travel, thereby much time and enormous amounts of food, air, liquids, etc, in-order to make even a trip to the nearest star. Well now, it doesn't take a rocket-scientist to realize that this so-called time-saving method is at the very-least impractical if not suicidal, because such a device would require an unobtainable amount of energy, and only to end in self destruction. Now, as it is stands, electromagnetic-properties have the potential to attract/pull a thousand X's their own weight, and altho that is based-on direct-contact, a large percentage of that should be obtainable. Also, when a very powerful electromagnetic-force is powerly used to controll C-force, it will uniqquesly combine to create or generate an all new form of energy. Anyway, given certain dimensions within a spinning rotor assembly, 1-lb of weight can potetially generate several tons of Centrifugal (?) or Centripetal (?) force, and so it's very feasible that the overall weight of a certain highly efficient vehicle, can be overtaken The task or goal is to utilize this principle within a system to eliminate mechanical-energy, which would enable a 'State' of Light Energy/Propulsion to be perfected, thus enabling some 'other' vehicle-craft to travel space in the extreme, to any star, that may harbor intelligent life, that may be at anytime in evolution or technological progression. This 'other' system is a highly efficient means of generating a viable new advanced form of propulsion, or energy, that will not only enable any maneuver, but possibly reach speeds in the sub-light range, or ??? If some good in-depth RD was conducted, I am confident the potential of this system would soon be realized, thus enabling our current knowledge of propulsion energy to be completely revised. Presently, there are various aspects at work in our society that are rather relatively easy to observe, such as the average household clothes-washing machine, which, if improperly imbalanced in the spin-cycle, will not spin fast enough, or at all. Also, when a tire is put on the wheel of you vehicle at the local Garage, and is computer balanced with little lead-weights, in order to spin or wear evenly. Under normal circumstances, if a rotor-center was simply imbalanced, it would quickly start to shake, rattle, wobble, and at some point destroy whatever was holding it in place. Simply, an imbalanced rotor assembly or wheel that trys to spin at high-rate or Rpm's, can generate a significant amount of C-force, that will overpower or disable it. And so, this 'other' system essentially enables a high rate of rpm's to be obtained, and to the point it will level-off to a stable controllable manner. Then, it's a simple matter of regulating energy via a very exact/precise timing-order-sequence, and the sky is no longer the limit, nor sapce for that matter. All you have to do then is figure-out away of getting rid of 100 % of this bio-baggage, and/or obtain immortality thru technology,,, and you're good to go. (I know, I didn't 'believe' it either,, but, it's the only thing that hasn't even been considered, of which I am certain will work unlike anything anyone will believe. . It will simply require an old dog (which is really only a spring chicken) to learn a new trick sure it must might be rough! rough! at first, but then you'll find that you'll be able to do alot more than just roll over, and fetch a ball... good boy! ... now speak! /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
It's almost absurd to even think about waiting around for an answer, especially if our signals are being disabled,,, and (believe it or not) I think there may be a likely good reason for this. SO, what if we got an answer... what do we do then? Should we ask them if they have more advanced technology, or, if they can tell us things in which can actually only learn for ourselves, or, what it might mean to be indpendent or free of the limitations of this planet?... So, ask a few questions that you'd like to have answered, and make sure they have some real meaning,,, otherwise you will not likely get an answer , and/or one you could even begin to understand. Now, it might be comparable to your long lost relative (if they could talk) asking you (human being) if you know where some bananas (or oranges) are, because you have a large family that requires almost a limitless supply. you know what I mean here ? I don't know, but the first beeping signals have now reached 12,500 stars.The fact of the matter is any civilizations out there able to receive our signal should have been transmitting at least 100 years ago and we should already have detected them. It appears that we are unique.Many are predicting we will not be around to receive any answer. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Some people can't deal with certain matters, and will quickly change the subject. By finding fault with words (which obviously give you immense comfort), rather than the matter at hand, I can only must conclude that you simply aren't meant to learn or 'know' certain things,,, so, please go ahead and kill my file... I'll get over it. I have to killfile this guy. I guess he is trying to write in html, but it comes across as a 65-line run-on sentence. I checked the vortex-l website to make sure it wasn't just my email reader and his posts there are the same unreadable globs of words as they are in my email reader. People should at least throw in a line of white space every 3 or 4 lines. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Believe it or not, but this just might be a sort-of mandatory-step from which a whole new society emerges and starts a'new. times, they are a changin! Let's just hope that it is not typical for an advanced civilization to end itself with super weapons once it reaches a certain point in its development! /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
Uhh... they're currently up in space, as in numerous vehicle/craft, that are utilizing an altogether highly developed new form of sophisticated energy-field, that is tapped into all mass-matter/energy, and/or the earth's gravity magnetosphere. What we're essentially talking about is a capability that enables 'them' to interpret, anticipate, and/or operate not only every 'thing' , but all living creatures as well especially the neuro-activity or function of our brain. Again,,, your talking about an ability that not only operates matter w/ ungodly precision, from a very considerable distance in space, but as-well from 'within' our very soul (if you will),,, and so, I'd say it's about as easy as when you flip-on a switch on an appliance talk about a set-up! maybe kind'a like Ohms Resistance in electric current, only by speeding up or down all this 'stuff' on some super micro-subatomic level. Maybe this will help if you were looking up into the nightsky thru a telescope, in their direction, they would have already been fully aware of you, and either moved-out of your view, and/or play around with in such a way that you aren't quick enough to even actually realize it Case in point, some of these craft have a reflective surface on their outside skin, and/or a bulb-like dome on the underside,,, and so, a 'Flash' of light can be used in less-time it takes for you to wink, and distract or rediverting your attention I kid you not? So anyway, I suspect that some highly developed form of cold fusion is being used to power the system that is enabling 'them' to be up there, but I am not not an expert on this subject, but am well-versed in the abilities of 'those' powerfully capable highly advanced civilizations, that have to be at least 10 million years older, or somewhere between that, to multi-billions of years further along than us and/or we're so 'new' on the block, that we might (I fear) be referred to as still in our diapers wah!! Extraterrestrians can be all around us right now, and we just don't notice them. That's what I tend to think. /HTML
Re: [Vo]:100 years 1912 beep beep beep and aliens
I am trying to write in globs, because I know they're somewhat unreadable, but that just makes it that much more difficult to know what I'm talking about. And please, in the future, try not to use the word 'kill' ,,, its too harsh. I also have this dinosaur of a computer, plus, I'm mostly computer illiterate. I'll try to catch-on, so just give me a few million years to catch-up. Thanks I have to killfile this guy. I guess he is trying to write in html, but it comes across as a 65-line run-on sentence. I checked the vortex-l website to make sure it wasn't just my email reader and his posts there are the same unreadable globs of words as they are in my email reader. People should at least throw in a line of white space every 3 or 4 lines. /HTML
