Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
bject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper The super-atom produced as a large collection of coherent and entangled particles can completely lowers the Coulomb barrier. This is how atomic clustering fits into the LENR+ process. see www.iscmns.org/w

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
; of the barrier. I have to ask where the additional energy comes from to >>> satisfy the actual energy needed? If it is taken from other particles that >>> might make sense, otherwise it sounds like a free lunch. >>> >>> Dave >>> -Original Mes

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
gt; occurs, all of the borrowed energy would of course be paid back. The net > effect is the same, but then there would be no free lunch. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 12:48 pm > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis o

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
12:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper If you can think of the coulomb barrier as a soldier, a very good and strong one, this hero, can defeat any individual soldier of the opposing army. Even if the opposing army attacks our hero one

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
is hard to know what to make of this. It says the Coulomb barrier >>>> drops away to low levels under conditions we can in principle control. If >>>> true, that would be ... big. >>>> >>>> Wouldn't it be amusing if the "uncontrolled varia

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Axil Axil
e amusing if the "uncontrolled variable" that accounts >>> for variation of results over the last 23 years turned out to be the RFI >>> background in the vicinity of the experiment? >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread Harry Veeder
gt; true, that would be ... big. >>> >>> Wouldn't it be amusing if the "uncontrolled variable" that accounts for >>> variation of results over the last 23 years turned out to be the RFI >>> background in the vicinity of the experim

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
s like a free lunch. > > Dave > -Original Message- > From: Axil Axil > To: vortex-l > Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:20 am > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- > Third paper > > The super-atom produced as a large collection of coher

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Mon, Aug 20, 2012 2:20 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper The super-atom produced as a large collection of coherent and entangled particles can completely lowers the Coulomb barrier. This

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
.com/content/rup025083t105q83/ >>>> >>>> It is hard to know what to make of this. It says the Coulomb barrier >>>> drops away to low levels under conditions we can in principle control. If >>>> true, that would be ... big. >>>> >>>

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
be ... big. >>> >>> Wouldn't it be amusing if the "uncontrolled variable" that accounts for >>> variation of results over the last 23 years turned out to be the RFI >>> background in the vicinity of the experiment? >>> >>> Jeff

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Axil Axil
t;> >> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: >> >>> > From: "Jeff Berkowitz" >>> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM >>> > Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device >>> > If you open

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Axil Axil
ccounts for > variation of results over the last 23 years turned out to be the RFI > background in the vicinity of the experiment? > > Jeff > > On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > >> > From: "Jeff Berkowitz" >> > Sent: Satur

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread mixent
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Sun, 19 Aug 2012 13:08:43 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] >> From: "Jeff Berkowitz" >> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM >> Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device >> If you open thi

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
the vicinity of the experiment? Jeff On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 1:08 PM, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > From: "Jeff Berkowitz" > > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM > > Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device > > If you open this lin

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device -- Third paper

2012-08-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
> From: "Jeff Berkowitz" > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2012 10:08:15 PM > Subject: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device > If you open this link: > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf > &g

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device

2012-08-18 Thread Daniel Rocha
The problem is Rossi :D 2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz > right, the author has nothing nice to say about W-L. > > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > >> Better save it before Krivit purges that! >> >> >> 2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz >> >>> If you open this link: >>> >>> http://newe

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device

2012-08-18 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
right, the author has nothing nice to say about W-L. On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Better save it before Krivit purges that! > > > 2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz > >> If you open this link: >> >> http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulat

Re: [Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device

2012-08-18 Thread Daniel Rocha
Better save it before Krivit purges that! 2012/8/19 Jeff Berkowitz > If you open this link: > > http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf > > It turns out that the PDF contains three separate and unrelated LENR > papers stuck together end to

[Vo]:Analysis of W-L theory as applicable to Rossi device

2012-08-18 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
If you open this link: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Vysotskii-Stimulated-LENR-Paper.pdf It turns out that the PDF contains three separate and unrelated LENR papers stuck together end to end. The second of the three papers is analysis of the applicability of W-L to