Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-25 Thread pagnucco
Jojo,

I believe that current carrying capacity in metal nanowires is
proportional to cross-sectional area - before the diameter reaches the
electron mean free path for the metal.  But, there are other factors -
length, geometry and uniformity of wire cross-section, temperature,
applied voltage, cross-talk to adjacent nanowires, ... a very nonlinear
relationship.
(Refer to the paper I originally referenced.)

I think (but am not sure) that based on the following paper -
Room temperature ballistic conduction in carbon nanotubes (equation 11)
http://arxiv.org/ftp/cond-mat/papers/0211/0211515.pdf
- that in carbon MWNTs max-current is proportional (up to mean free path)
to cross-sectional area, at least at the MNWT contacts.  So, I would guess
the same holds for SWNTs.

I find this subject awesomely complex.
Probably experiment is the best way to check theory.

As the great philosopher Yogi Berra allegedly said:
Theoretically, the theoretical and the empirical are the same
- empirically, they're not

-- Lou Pagnucco

Jojo Jaro wrote:
 What you are saying is the current carrying capacity of a conductor is
 proportional to the cross sectional area of the conductor.  That is true
 only for the macro scale.

 Current flow in a 1 dimensional SWNT appears to be governed by quite
 different mechanisms.  I do not believe the Current carrying capacity of a
 CNT is proportional to its cross sectional area.  I believe SWNTs with
 smaller diameters can carry more current that MWNT with larger diameters.
 I
 believe that is exactly what long coherence lengths mean in this
 context.

 Tell me where I'm wrong.


 Jojo


 - Original Message -
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


 Jojo,
 Please note this correction -

 ...current density is directly related to radius^2...
 - should read
 ...current is directly related to radius^2...

 The extra word changes the meaning entirely.
 Too large a radius (~ electron mean free path), though, will make the
 current diffusive instead of ballistic.

 -- Lou Pagnucco

 Lou Pagnucco wrote:
Jojo,

I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf










Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread Axil Axil
http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0903/0903.5359.pdf



*A New Method of Obtaining High Enrichment of Metallic Single-*

*Walled Carbon Nanotubes*

* *

http://nopr.niscair.res.in/bitstream/123456789/13361/1/IJCA%2051A(01-02)%2032-46.pdf




Selective Synthesis of SWNT

On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

 **
 I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And
 they're mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between the
 Metallic SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

 I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to MWNTs,
 but I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of Metallic
 SWNTs.  They're both from the same author and it was a very short paper and
 he does not really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do you know of any
 papers discussing the selective production of Metallic SWNTs?  I think
 this is the key in increasing the power density of LENR.


 With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding,
 why would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is slightly
 bigger.  Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

 Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in SWNTs?

 Jojo




 - Original Message -
 *From:* Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

 I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords…… Metallic AND SWNT


 On Google patents, use the “Download PDF” button to see the complete
 patent including the diagrams.



 This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



 http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





 I found 134 patents using the compound keywords……  Armchair AND SWNT



 This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.






 http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



 Also



 http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







 *Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of
 Armchair SWNTs.*



 I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the more active the
 SWNT formed from it will be.



 I will get you more as time permits.


 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

 **
 Axil,

 I found a page discussing the properties of SWNTs and it mentions that
 Metallic SWNTs exhibit Long Coherence Lengths.

 http://ipn2.epfl.ch/CHBU/NTelectronic1.htm


 From the page:

 Numerous experiments on SWNTs and MWNTs allowed to gain additional
 informations. At low temperatures, SWNTs behave as coherent quantum wires
 where the conduction occurs through discrete electron states over large
 distances. Transport measurements revealed that metallic SWNTs show
 extremely long coherence lengths and that the presence of defects or
 disorder has little influence on electron conduction. This is not the case
 for semi-conducting SWNTs, which show far shorter coherence lengths. 


 Is this the same concept you were referring to in your post about charge
 accumulation in 1D structures.  If so, it appears that SWNTs are better
 than MWNTs; specifically Metallic SWNTs appears to be the right allotropes
 that would enchance Charge accumulation.

 And since, arc discharge generators normally produce a mixture of
 Metallic and Semiconducting SWNTs, it would explain the hit and miss
 results we been getting with Cold Fusion.

 If this is correct, tuning the reactor to bias its production towards
 Metallic SWNTs should increase power production in LENR.

 Any ideas how to do this?  I understand that doping the anode with Fe or
 Ni powders increases the production of SWNTs, I can tune my reactor towards
 SWNT production, but it seems, nobody knows how to tune production of the
 Metallic SWNTs variety over the Semiconducting Variety.  That is, Armchair
 nanotubes as opposed to ZigZag or other chirals.

 Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of
 Armchair SWNTs.

 Can you direct me to papers about SWNT charge accumulation.


 Jojo










Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
Nah!   If Axil owned a company close to commercialization, he wouldn't be so 
generous in sharing his understanding.  If he did, he will quickly lose any 
market advantage.


Axil is just one all around nice fellow for sharing his knowledge.  If his 
theories pan out and I am able to commercial my design, I know where to send 
a very generous thank you.


Jojo


- Original Message - 
From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com

To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


With your Mensa mind, Axil, we must assume that you already own a company 
just about ready to market a high pressure boiler fuel insert. N'est-ce 
*pas*? Will you offer start up shares? Where can I join the investor 
waiting list? Looking forward to an offering where minimum five figures is 
required.


Warm Regards,

Reliable






Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread c_t
Jojo,What are you talking about: Ther is no original message on vortex-lHidekiSNIP Jojo- Original Message -From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com To: "vortex-l" vortex-l@eskimo.comSent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:52 AMSubject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge AccumulationWith your Mensa mind, Axil, we must assume that you already own a company  just about ready to market a high pressure boiler fuel insert. N'est-ce  *pas*? Will you offer start up shares? Where can I join the investor  waiting list? Looking forward to an offering where minimum five figures is  required. Warm Regards,Reliable



Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread Puppy Dog
Hideki,Here is missing post:Axil,  Google *vale nickel powder carbonyl*. Revisit  http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg49505.html (Brilliant  analysis!). In addition, I read or heard Rossi ridicule possible shortage of Ni  powder but can not pick up on specific reference. It appears that proper  preparation, purification and handling are essential. See http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg45727.html and http://www.uibm.gov.it/uibm/dati/Titolare.aspx?load=info_list_unoid=1933570table=Invention#ancoraSearch “Method and Apparatus for Generating Energy through Nuclear Reactions of  Hydrogen Adsorbed by Orbital Capture to a Metal Crystalline  Nanostructure”, et alia.  You commented on this previously. See Axil :  http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=67616sid=a67427fd867eb1b9b08913e1b77ed98e  With your Mensa mind, Axil, we must assume that you already own a  company just about ready to market a high pressure boiler fuel insert.  N'est-ce *pas*? Will you offer start up shares? Where can I join the  investor waiting list? Looking forward to an offering where minimum five  figures is required.  Warm Regards,  Reliable  Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:25:40 -0700   		  Jojo,What are you talking about: Ther is no original message on vortex-lHidekiSNIP Jojo- Original Message -From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com To: "vortex-l" vortex-l@eskimo.comSent: Monday, June 25, 2012 1:52 AMSubject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge AccumulationWith your Mensa mind, Axil, we must assume that you already own a company  just about ready to market a high pressure boiler fuel insert. N'est-ce  *pas*? Will you offer start up shares? Where can I join the investor  waiting list? Looking forward to an offering where minimum five figures is  required. Warm Regards,Reliable Thank you Reliable for the excellent references.. Axil is hidden and probably will never disclose background. See http://www.technologyreview.com/profile/Axil/ Anonymous  



Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Puppy Dog d...@inbox.lv wrote:

 Axil is hidden and
 probably will never disclose background.

Et vous?

T



Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread pagnucco
Jojo,
Please note this correction -

...current density is directly related to radius^2...
- should read
...current is directly related to radius^2...

The extra word changes the meaning entirely.
Too large a radius (~ electron mean free path), though, will make the
current diffusive instead of ballistic.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Lou Pagnucco wrote:
Jojo,

I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf




Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-24 Thread Jojo Jaro
What you are saying is the current carrying capacity of a conductor is 
proportional to the cross sectional area of the conductor.  That is true 
only for the macro scale.


Current flow in a 1 dimensional SWNT appears to be governed by quite 
different mechanisms.  I do not believe the Current carrying capacity of a 
CNT is proportional to its cross sectional area.  I believe SWNTs with 
smaller diameters can carry more current that MWNT with larger diameters.  I 
believe that is exactly what long coherence lengths mean in this context.


Tell me where I'm wrong.


Jojo


- Original Message - 
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation



Jojo,
Please note this correction -

...current density is directly related to radius^2...
- should read
...current is directly related to radius^2...

The extra word changes the meaning entirely.
Too large a radius (~ electron mean free path), though, will make the
current diffusive instead of ballistic.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Lou Pagnucco wrote:

Jojo,

I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf








Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And they're 
mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between the Metallic 
SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to MWNTs, but 
I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of Metallic SWNTs.  
They're both from the same author and it was a very short paper and he does not 
really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do you know of any papers discussing 
the selective production of Metallic SWNTs?  I think this is the key in 
increasing the power density of LENR.
   

With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding, why 
would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is slightly bigger.  
Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in SWNTs?

Jojo



  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


  I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords…… Metallic AND SWNT 



  On Google patents, use the “Download PDF” button to see the complete patent 
including the diagrams.


  This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



  http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





  I found 134 patents using the compound keywords……  Armchair AND SWNT



  This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.





  
http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



  Also



  http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







  Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni 
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of 
Armchair SWNTs.



  I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the more active the SWNT 
formed from it will be.



  I will get you more as time permits.




  On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

Axil,

I found a page discussing the properties of SWNTs and it mentions that 
Metallic SWNTs exhibit Long Coherence Lengths.

http://ipn2.epfl.ch/CHBU/NTelectronic1.htm


From the page:

Numerous experiments on SWNTs and MWNTs allowed to gain additional 
informations. At low temperatures, SWNTs behave as coherent quantum wires where 
the conduction occurs through discrete electron states over large distances. 
Transport measurements revealed that metallic SWNTs show extremely long 
coherence lengths and that the presence of defects or disorder has little 
influence on electron conduction. This is not the case for semi-conducting 
SWNTs, which show far shorter coherence lengths. 


Is this the same concept you were referring to in your post about charge 
accumulation in 1D structures.  If so, it appears that SWNTs are better than 
MWNTs; specifically Metallic SWNTs appears to be the right allotropes that 
would enchance Charge accumulation.

And since, arc discharge generators normally produce a mixture of Metallic 
and Semiconducting SWNTs, it would explain the hit and miss results we been 
getting with Cold Fusion.

If this is correct, tuning the reactor to bias its production towards 
Metallic SWNTs should increase power production in LENR.

Any ideas how to do this?  I understand that doping the anode with Fe or Ni 
powders increases the production of SWNTs, I can tune my reactor towards SWNT 
production, but it seems, nobody knows how to tune production of the Metallic 
SWNTs variety over the Semiconducting Variety.  That is, Armchair nanotubes as 
opposed to ZigZag or other chirals.

Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni 
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of 
Armchair SWNTs.

Can you direct me to papers about SWNT charge accumulation.


Jojo








Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com

Axil,

Appears to me that the hands on realist experimenters should be 
*chomping at the bit* to duplicate and improve upon Mint Candy:



 Re: [Vo]:Boeing Electric Airliner---LENR Application=???

Mint Candy
Fri, 11 May 2012 07:20:21 -0700

1. NGK LZ5AGP
3381 Plugs
2. Used Fix-A-Thread thread inserts M14-1.26 14.25mm 9/16
3. Used White thin F/C pipe tape to seal and ease of thread use.
4. Screwed easily into 1/2 middle of Fe pipe T
5. Finely turned off, let cool and examined inside. Cotton swab showed
black carbon deposits near plug.
6. Reassembled but attached ignition coil output to plug. Worked as
before using AC input or DC with door bell in series to create buzz 
interuptions.

7. Will try Chan oil circulation with suspended Ni next

M.

- Original Message -
From: Axil Axil
Sent: 05/09/12 02:10 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Boeing Electric Airliner---LENR Application=???

Mint Candy,
Thanks for taking the time to let us know about your success. I appreciate it. 
The reports of success with Hexane are growing in number and your report is 
most promising. Did you see any indications of radiation from your reactor?Is 
your process easy to control; easy to start up and easy to shut down. 
Have you noticed any diminution of power production as time goes on? Do you 
plan to enter the market as a manufacturer?
Any additional information about your situation that you feel does not 
compromise your competitive position in this new marketplace would be of high 
interest to me.

Thanks for your success and its report to us:
Axil


On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Mint Candy  m.ca...@gmx.us  wrote:
1. Purchased 60 plate heat exchanger at : 
http://www.dudadiesel.com/heat_exchangers.php 
2. Purchased Ni at : http://www.xuzhounano.com/a/About/About_Us/ 
3. Mixed Ni  catalyst powder wth Hexane from J. T. Baker

4. Filled one side exchanger with suspension.
5. Evacuated two days ending at 250 C.
6. Followed http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com 
procedure using Medical Lesion RFG to spark plug.

7. Perfect control using pulse adjustment on RFG and Propane flow.
8. Incredible steam output steady 2 weeks under pressure.
9. Operating at 650C.
10. Must now get patent on catalyst.

M.

I would assume that for the progress of LENR if they communicated a 
purchase wish list including supplier and price that they need the 
remainder of Vortes followers who's main contributions tend toward 
essays and critiques with a sprinkling of science friction would 
overwhelmingly send generous contributions without hesitation. I will 
start it off by sending each of the participating experimentalists a 
$5.00 money order if you include your name, postal address and brief 
description of your procedure.


Warm Regards,

Reliable

Axil Axil wrote:
Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:50:49 -0700

I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords…… Metallic AND SWNT


On Google patents, use the “Download PDF” button to see the complete patent
including the diagrams.



This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





I found 134 patents using the compound keywords……  Armchair AND SWNT



This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.





http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA
 
http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



Also



http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







*Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of
Armchair SWNTs.*



I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the more active the SWNT
formed from it will be.



I will get you more as time permits.


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:


**
Axil,

I found a page discussing the properties of SWNTs and it mentions that
Metallic SWNTs exhibit Long Coherence Lengths.

http://ipn2.epfl.ch/CHBU/NTelectronic1.htm


From the page:

Numerous experiments on SWNTs and MWNTs allowed to gain additional
informations. At low temperatures, SWNTs behave as coherent quantum wires
where the conduction occurs through discrete electron states over large
distances. Transport measurements revealed that metallic SWNTs show
extremely long coherence lengths and that the presence of defects or
disorder has little influence on electron conduction. This is not the case
for semi-conducting SWNTs, which show far shorter coherence lengths. 


Is this the same concept you were referring to in your post about charge
accumulation in 1D structures.  If so, it appears that SWNTs are better
than MWNTs; specifically Metallic SWNTs appears to be the right allotropes
that would enchance Charge accumulation.

And since, arc discharge generators normally produce a mixture of Metallic
and Semiconducting SWNTs, it 

Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge AccumulationRe: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread Jojo Jaro
What?, Just $5?  Make it real.  How about upping your support to $1000. 
Send me $1000 and I'll share with you my designs, procedures and results. 
Or if you prefer, I'll let you in at the ground floor of my commercial 
enterprise.



Jojo


PS.  Just kidding.  I'm sharing my designs and procedure and results 
anyways, but it's nice to know you're being appreciated with something more 
substantial than $5.  Geez .





- Original Message - 
From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com

To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge AccumulationRe: 
[Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


I would assume that for the progress of LENR if they communicated a 
purchase wish list including supplier and price that they need the 
remainder of Vortes followers who's main contributions tend toward essays 
and critiques with a sprinkling of science friction would overwhelmingly 
send generous contributions without hesitation. I will start it off by 
sending each of the participating experimentalists a $5.00 money order if 
you include your name, postal address and brief description of your 
procedure.


Warm Regards,

Reliable




Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread pagnucco
Jojo,

I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf

Perhaps densely packed vertically aligned arrays of metal nanowires and/or
metallic carbon SWNTs are also worth a look.  They could support extremely
large currents and generate very strong fields.  I'm not sure, but I think
some metals can crystallize this way.

Might the ratio of semiconductor/metallic carbon SWNTs be more important
than absolute purity?

-- Lou Pagnucco

Jojo Jaro wrote:
 I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And
 they're mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between
 the Metallic SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

 I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to MWNTs,
 but I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of
 Metallic SWNTs.  They're both from the same author and it was a very
 short paper and he does not really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do you
 know of any papers discussing the selective production of Metallic SWNTs?
 I think this is the key in increasing the power density of LENR.


 With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding,
 why would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is slightly
 bigger.  Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

 Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in SWNTs?

 Jojo



   - Original Message -
   From: Axil Axil
   To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
   Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
   Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


   I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords…… Metallic AND
 SWNT



   On Google patents, use the “Download PDF” button to see the complete
 patent including the diagrams.


   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



   http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





   I found 134 patents using the compound keywords……  Armchair AND SWNT



   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.





   
 http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



   Also



   http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







   Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation
 of Armchair SWNTs.



   I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the m



Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread Jojo Jaro

Interesting paper Lou.

This is giving me some more to chew on.  Might it be possible that Rossi is 
processing his Nickel powder with the expressed goal of creating 
Quasi-One-Dimensional Nickel tubules.   These nanosized diameter Nickel 
nanocylinders would act as charge accumulators.  Could it be that Rossi's 
process is simply charge accumulation on metallic Nickel nanocylinders?  I 
believe Axil also said something to this effect.


How does one process to create nickel nanosized nanocylinder tubules?

Regarding the mixture of Semiconducting and Metallic SWNTs, I believe the 
charge accumulation and coherent electrons would only be enhanced in 
Metallic SWNTs.  Only the Metallic/Armchair variant of SWNT exhibit long 
Coherence Lengths.  The semiconducting variants of SWNT like ZigZag and 
Chiral types do not exhibit long Coherence Lengths.


If Axil's theory is correct, Metallic SWNTs are the key to easily providing 
an abundance of NAE.  Ed Storms believes that Cracks and Carbon Nanotubes 
are perfect candidates for the NAE.  Cracks can not be manufactured on 
demand, however Metallic SWNTs can be.


If a process can be found to manufacture large amounts of Metallic SWNTs, 
increasing the power output density of an LENR Reactor would simply be a 
matter of controlling the production rate of Metallic SWNTs in conjunction 
with modulating the spark rate to control the amount of charge accumulation 
on these Metallic SWNTs.  Nothing could be simplier (simplier than other 
methods.)


I will modify my design again to test these ideas.


Jojo





- Original Message - 
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation



Jojo,

I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf

Perhaps densely packed vertically aligned arrays of metal nanowires and/or
metallic carbon SWNTs are also worth a look.  They could support extremely
large currents and generate very strong fields.  I'm not sure, but I think
some metals can crystallize this way.

Might the ratio of semiconductor/metallic carbon SWNTs be more important
than absolute purity?

-- Lou Pagnucco

Jojo Jaro wrote:

I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And
they're mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between
the Metallic SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to 
MWNTs,

but I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of
Metallic SWNTs.  They're both from the same author and it was a very
short paper and he does not really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do 
you

know of any papers discussing the selective production of Metallic SWNTs?
I think this is the key in increasing the power density of LENR.


With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding,
why would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is slightly
bigger.  Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in SWNTs?

Jojo



  - Original Message -
  From: Axil Axil
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


  I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords.. Metallic AND
SWNT



  On Google patents, use the Download PDF button to see the complete
patent including the diagrams.


  This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



  http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





  I found 134 patents using the compound keywords..  Armchair AND SWNT



  This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.






http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



  Also



  http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







  Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation
of Armchair SWNTs.



  I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the m







Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread pagnucco
 Interesting paper Lou.

 This is giving me some more to chew on.  Might it be possible that Rossi
 is
 processing his Nickel powder with the expressed goal of creating
 Quasi-One-Dimensional Nickel tubules.   These nanosized diameter Nickel
 nanocylinders would act as charge accumulators.  Could it be that Rossi's
 process is simply charge accumulation on metallic Nickel nanocylinders?  I
 believe Axil also said something to this effect.

 How does one process to create nickel nanosized nanocylinder tubules?

 Regarding the mixture of Semiconducting and Metallic SWNTs, I believe the
 charge accumulation and coherent electrons would only be enhanced in
 Metallic SWNTs.  Only the Metallic/Armchair variant of SWNT exhibit long
 Coherence Lengths.  The semiconducting variants of SWNT like ZigZag and
 Chiral types do not exhibit long Coherence Lengths.

 If Axil's theory is correct, Metallic SWNTs are the key to easily
 providing
 an abundance of NAE.  Ed Storms believes that Cracks and Carbon Nanotubes
 are perfect candidates for the NAE.  Cracks can not be manufactured on
 demand, however Metallic SWNTs can be.

 If a process can be found to manufacture large amounts of Metallic SWNTs,
 increasing the power output density of an LENR Reactor would simply be a
 matter of controlling the production rate of Metallic SWNTs in conjunction
 with modulating the spark rate to control the amount of charge
 accumulation
 on these Metallic SWNTs.  Nothing could be simplier (simplier than other
 methods.)

 I will modify my design again to test these ideas.


 Jojo





 - Original Message -
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


 Jojo,

 I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
 directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

 Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf

 Perhaps densely packed vertically aligned arrays of metal nanowires
 and/or
 metallic carbon SWNTs are also worth a look.  They could support
 extremely
 large currents and generate very strong fields.  I'm not sure, but I
 think
 some metals can crystallize this way.

 Might the ratio of semiconductor/metallic carbon SWNTs be more important
 than absolute purity?

 -- Lou Pagnucco

 Jojo Jaro wrote:
 I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And
 they're mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between
 the Metallic SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

 I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to
 MWNTs,
 but I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of
 Metallic SWNTs.  They're both from the same author and it was a very
 short paper and he does not really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do
 you
 know of any papers discussing the selective production of Metallic
 SWNTs?
 I think this is the key in increasing the power density of LENR.


 With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding,
 why would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is
 slightly
 bigger.  Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

 Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in
 SWNTs?

 Jojo



   - Original Message -
   From: Axil Axil
   To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
   Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
   Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


   I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords.. Metallic AND
 SWNT



   On Google patents, use the Download PDF button to see the complete
 patent including the diagrams.


   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



   http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





   I found 134 patents using the compound keywords..  Armchair AND SWNT



   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.






 http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



   Also



   http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







   Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or
 Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation
 of Armchair SWNTs.



   I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the m









Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-23 Thread pagnucco
First, ignore the empty reply - if it comes through. A mistype.

But also don't forget Otto Reifenschweiler believed his experiments
succeeded when colloidal chains of mono-crystalline Ti nanoparticles
formed.  There are lots of cracks and voids that can form and then
disappear, so maybe that's relevant.

I quickly perused arxiv.org for some papers on properties of nano-colloids
- these sound interesting:

Plasmonic Nanoparticle Networks for Light and Heat Concentration
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.0574v1.pdf

Phase transitions in nanoconfined binary mixtures of highly oriented
colloidal rods
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1005.0345v1

- Lou Pagnucco


Jojo Jaro wrote:
 Interesting paper Lou.

 This is giving me some more to chew on.  Might it be possible that Rossi
 is
 processing his Nickel powder with the expressed goal of creating
 Quasi-One-Dimensional Nickel tubules.   These nanosized diameter Nickel
 nanocylinders would act as charge accumulators.  Could it be that Rossi's
 process is simply charge accumulation on metallic Nickel nanocylinders?  I
 believe Axil also said something to this effect.

 How does one process to create nickel nanosized nanocylinder tubules?

 Regarding the mixture of Semiconducting and Metallic SWNTs, I believe the
 charge accumulation and coherent electrons would only be enhanced in
 Metallic SWNTs.  Only the Metallic/Armchair variant of SWNT exhibit long
 Coherence Lengths.  The semiconducting variants of SWNT like ZigZag and
 Chiral types do not exhibit long Coherence Lengths.

 If Axil's theory is correct, Metallic SWNTs are the key to easily
 providing
 an abundance of NAE.  Ed Storms believes that Cracks and Carbon Nanotubes
 are perfect candidates for the NAE.  Cracks can not be manufactured on
 demand, however Metallic SWNTs can be.

 If a process can be found to manufacture large amounts of Metallic SWNTs,
 increasing the power output density of an LENR Reactor would simply be a
 matter of controlling the production rate of Metallic SWNTs in conjunction
 with modulating the spark rate to control the amount of charge
 accumulation
 on these Metallic SWNTs.  Nothing could be simplier (simplier than other
 methods.)

 I will modify my design again to test these ideas.


 Jojo





 - Original Message -
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 3:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


 Jojo,

 I believe in both metal nanowires and carbon SWNTs, current density is
 directly related to radius^2 - Refer to equation(1), page 1 of -

 Stability of Metal Nanowires at Ultrahigh Current Densities
 http://arxiv.org/pdf/cond-mat/0411058v3.pdf

 Perhaps densely packed vertically aligned arrays of metal nanowires
 and/or
 metallic carbon SWNTs are also worth a look.  They could support
 extremely
 large currents and generate very strong fields.  I'm not sure, but I
 think
 some metals can crystallize this way.

 Might the ratio of semiconductor/metallic carbon SWNTs be more important
 than absolute purity?

 -- Lou Pagnucco

 Jojo Jaro wrote:
 I read these patents and most of it is beyond my ability and skill. And
 they're mostly about how to produce SWNTs, which no distinction between
 the Metallic SWNTs from the Semiconducting SWNT varieties.

 I've found many papers discussing production of SWNTs as opposed to
 MWNTs,
 but I found only 2 papers discussing the Selective Production of
 Metallic SWNTs.  They're both from the same author and it was a very
 short paper and he does not really discuss how to do it in detail.  Do
 you
 know of any papers discussing the selective production of Metallic
 SWNTs?
 I think this is the key in increasing the power density of LENR.


 With respect to the smaller SWNTs the better.  In your understanding,
 why would a smaller (diameter?) SWNT be better than one which is
 slightly
 bigger.  Any quantum mechanical reason that you can explain?

 Can you direct me to any papers discussing Charge accumulation in
 SWNTs?

 Jojo



   - Original Message -
   From: Axil Axil
   To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
   Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 8:49 AM
   Subject: Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation


   I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords.. Metallic AND
 SWNT



   On Google patents, use the Download PDF button to see the complete
 patent including the diagrams.


   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



   http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





   I found 134 patents using the compound keywords..  Armchair AND SWNT



   This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.






 http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



   Also



   http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







   Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or
 Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation

[Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-22 Thread Jojo Jaro
Axil,

I found a page discussing the properties of SWNTs and it mentions that 
Metallic SWNTs exhibit Long Coherence Lengths.

http://ipn2.epfl.ch/CHBU/NTelectronic1.htm


From the page:

Numerous experiments on SWNTs and MWNTs allowed to gain additional 
informations. At low temperatures, SWNTs behave as coherent quantum wires where 
the conduction occurs through discrete electron states over large distances. 
Transport measurements revealed that metallic SWNTs show extremely long 
coherence lengths and that the presence of defects or disorder has little 
influence on electron conduction. This is not the case for semi-conducting 
SWNTs, which show far shorter coherence lengths. 


Is this the same concept you were referring to in your post about charge 
accumulation in 1D structures.  If so, it appears that SWNTs are better than 
MWNTs; specifically Metallic SWNTs appears to be the right allotropes that 
would enchance Charge accumulation.

And since, arc discharge generators normally produce a mixture of Metallic and 
Semiconducting SWNTs, it would explain the hit and miss results we been 
getting with Cold Fusion.

If this is correct, tuning the reactor to bias its production towards Metallic 
SWNTs should increase power production in LENR.

Any ideas how to do this?  I understand that doping the anode with Fe or Ni 
powders increases the production of SWNTs, I can tune my reactor towards SWNT 
production, but it seems, nobody knows how to tune production of the Metallic 
SWNTs variety over the Semiconducting Variety.  That is, Armchair nanotubes as 
opposed to ZigZag or other chirals.

Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni 
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of 
Armchair SWNTs.

Can you direct me to papers about SWNT charge accumulation.


Jojo




 

Re: [Vo]:Coherent Quantum Wires and Charge Accumulation

2012-06-22 Thread Axil Axil
I found about 1000 patents using the compound keywords…… Metallic AND SWNT


On Google patents, use the “Download PDF” button to see the complete patent
including the diagrams.



This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.



http://www.google.com/patents/US8163263





I found 134 patents using the compound keywords……  Armchair AND SWNT



This looked good to me on a quick scan of the material.





http://www.google.com/patents?id=pyz5AQAAEBAJprintsec=frontcoverdq=8,038,795hl=ensa=Xei=Ig7lT7jdCoHn0QG-mInWCQved=0CDcQ6AEwAA



Also



http://www.google.com/patents/US7807127







*Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of
Armchair SWNTs.*



I think this is true and the smaller the particle, the more active the SWNT
formed from it will be.



I will get you more as time permits.


On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Jojo Jaro jth...@hotmail.com wrote:

 **
 Axil,

 I found a page discussing the properties of SWNTs and it mentions that
 Metallic SWNTs exhibit Long Coherence Lengths.

 http://ipn2.epfl.ch/CHBU/NTelectronic1.htm


 From the page:

 Numerous experiments on SWNTs and MWNTs allowed to gain additional
 informations. At low temperatures, SWNTs behave as coherent quantum wires
 where the conduction occurs through discrete electron states over large
 distances. Transport measurements revealed that metallic SWNTs show
 extremely long coherence lengths and that the presence of defects or
 disorder has little influence on electron conduction. This is not the case
 for semi-conducting SWNTs, which show far shorter coherence lengths. 


 Is this the same concept you were referring to in your post about charge
 accumulation in 1D structures.  If so, it appears that SWNTs are better
 than MWNTs; specifically Metallic SWNTs appears to be the right allotropes
 that would enchance Charge accumulation.

 And since, arc discharge generators normally produce a mixture of Metallic
 and Semiconducting SWNTs, it would explain the hit and miss results we
 been getting with Cold Fusion.

 If this is correct, tuning the reactor to bias its production towards
 Metallic SWNTs should increase power production in LENR.

 Any ideas how to do this?  I understand that doping the anode with Fe or
 Ni powders increases the production of SWNTs, I can tune my reactor towards
 SWNT production, but it seems, nobody knows how to tune production of the
 Metallic SWNTs variety over the Semiconducting Variety.  That is, Armchair
 nanotubes as opposed to ZigZag or other chirals.

 Just thinking out loud here, but do you think the size of the Fe or Ni
 nanopowders used as catalyst seed material might influence the creation of
 Armchair SWNTs.

 Can you direct me to papers about SWNT charge accumulation.


 Jojo