[Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-15 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote on 3-13-09: ``Conspiracy theories all have one interesting feature in common: They cannot be disproved. Like creationism, they're intrinsically not falsifiable. This, alone, doesn't prove such theories wrong, of course. (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-15 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Taylor J. Smith wrote: Hi All, Regardless of whether or not one believes in original sin, it must be admitted that something is seriously wrong with homo sapiens. No, it mustn't. Humans mess up a lot, it's true, but they try a lot, too. When the last polar bear is gone from the

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-15 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:57:38 -0400: Hi, [snip] Saving large predators which are known to prey on humans, just because they *should* be saved, is just one small example of such behavior. [snip] The degree to which this occurs is inversely proportional to

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-14 Thread thomas malloy
OrionWorks wrote: Thomas sez: According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. Haven't you also agreed with the assessment that there is a warming trend occurring? Isn't the argument about who or what is causing the prolonged

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-14 Thread mixent
In reply to thomas malloy's message of Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:46:59 -0500 (CDT): Hi, [snip] The Sun has an eleven year cycle. We're now at the bottom, Solar Quiesence. Having this coincide with a very cold winter fits with the solar driven model. Ditto for Horner's contention that global

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread OrionWorks
Thomas sez: According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. It's cold in Madison too. The following web site would seem to indicate that global temps have indeed cooled within the last twelve months:

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity of global warming observations. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity of global warming observations. You do realize, I hope, that this

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity of global warming observations. You do realize, I hope, that this has been an ongoing pattern this year. An ongoing pattern where? In your state? In North America? This is not the worldwide

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: You do realize, I hope, that this has no bearing whatever on the validity of global warming observations. You do realize, I hope, that this has been an ongoing pattern this year. An ongoing pattern where? In your state? In North America? This is

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
More importantly, winters are getting colder, from more open water and less ice, causing more reflection back, and summers hotter, melting the ice, repeating the cycle. look at summer data, and winter data. hotter in summer, colder in winter, than previous. This is why its called global climate

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: More importantly, winters are getting colder, from more open water and less ice, causing more reflection back, More reflection? Doesn't sound right. Do you mean, rather, more radiation? As in, lower albedo means radiative cooling proceeds faster, not just radiative

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread OrionWorks
Thomas sez: According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. Not to change the subject... well, actually I am going to change the subject... Back around Feb. 24, within the subject thread [OT - The Rapture] you once ranted: If a

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: This is obviously a sad, sad story where everyone looses. loses He looses his fateful sword, and she loses her head. (Sorry to make a joke a dreadful situation but it is a good mnemonic device which we sure need with English spelling.) - Jed

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez: OrionWorks wrote: This is obviously a sad, sad story where everyone looses. loses He looses his fateful sword, and she loses her head. (Sorry to make a joke a dreadful situation but it is a good mnemonic device which we sure need with English spelling.) - Jed Once again,

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
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Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes including colder than normal temperatures in winter. That's why they call it Climate Change, it covers them either way. It only covers them if the climate is, in fact, changing. It has to

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread thomas malloy
Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes including colder than normal temperatures in winter. That's why they call it Climate Change, it covers them either way. It only covers them if the climate is, in fact,

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread OrionWorks
Thomas sez: ... But it has been revealed, ... Granted, I'm probably taking the phrase out of context. Priceless, nevertheless. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
Umm, my name isnt steven On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, thomas malloy temall...@usfamily.net wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Finally, I believe global warming is thought to produce temperature extremes including colder than normal temperatures in winter. That's why

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
leaking pen wrote: Umm, my name isnt steven Ahh, there are so many stevens, stephens, steves, and whatnot in this group that nobody can keep them straight anymore, and I'm not surprised that thomas gets confused and thinks everything's coming from some steph/ven or other I even

Re: [Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-13 Thread leaking pen
Absolutely. I find it best to shop local produce, and theres a big difference between green farms and organic ones sometimes. There are a lot of alternative labeling systems in place, hopefully a few with a methodology that makes more sense than the organic label become more mainstream. On Fri,

[Vo]:I told you it was cold

2009-03-12 Thread thomas malloy
According to a news report I just heard, Minnesota had a record low for March 12 this morning in Embarass. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---