Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
[This was sent directly to Milstone by accident, because of the way his e-mail response is set up. This happens at Vortex from time to time.] John Milstone john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com mailto:john_sw_orla...@yahoo.com wrote: From the report: The three-phase power cables were checked and

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
[Sent directly to Milstone by accident] I wrote: 3. In an insulated electric 3-phase cable, all four wires are bundled together under the insulation. Correction: all 5. As noted there is neutral and ground. The point is, you cannot disconnect individual ones without exposing them all.

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-20 Thread John Milstone
Since Jed decided to debate me in absentia here on the Vortex, I thought I'd respond. Rothwell said: No, as Ian Walker already pointed out to you, it says in the Appendix they checked for it. Also they told me they did. Figure 1 shows a direct connection to each of the 3 wires (for voltage) in

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Also, Millstone has apparently never heard of the second law of thermodynamics. He keeps insisting we can't be sure the heat originates from inside the cell because they measure the temperature at the outside wall. He said, quote: The actual E-Cat, supposedly producing the 'excess' heat, was a

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread H Veeder
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Also, Millstone has apparently never heard of the second law of thermodynamics. He keeps insisting we can't be sure the heat originates from inside the cell because they measure the temperature at the outside wall. He

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. Yes. I went on to say that. I did not quote my entire response. I also said: . . . Presumably the anomalous reaction occurred in the inner

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:49:37 PM Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. The production of energy and the transformation of the energy into heat do not have to occur in the

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:49:37 PM Irrespective of fraud, he is technically right. We don't know what the temperature is at the centre of the Ecat. . . . Not right, because it doesn't matter for a black

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-19 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: If the thermalization is on the nickel powder ... then things are complicated : will the powder melt? This was one of Joshua Cude's questions. It's a very interesting question. I think it was passed by too quickly during the

[Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not know why I bother but I went to the trouble to post a message here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/06/15/psstt-want-an-e-cat-lenr-generator-for-free/ The point I am making is so elementary it boggles my mind that anyone overlooks it, or disagrees, but people often do. It

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-18 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 12:28:25 PM I do not know why I bother but I went to the trouble to post a message here: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/06/15/psstt-want-an-e-cat-lenr-generator-for-free/ Mary Yugo and others here claim that

Re: [Vo]:My response at Forbes: all assertions must be testable and falsifiable

2013-06-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Nice post ... but I hear that only the Pig enjoys the mud-wrestling. It is not addressed to Yugo. It is for the benefit of other readers. I guess there will be readers who do not realize an assertion must be falsifiable. Yugo herself does not realize this.