Initially, I found myself speculating that DGT's seeming reluctance to
invite Stremmenos to their labs would seem to imply that if he did come
and observe what they have in-house Stremmenos might uncover strong evidence
to the effect that reverse engineering of Rossi's eCat design had occurred.
I think people coming from a country with a relatively normal history re
not able to understand well the behaviour of people coming from a country
that was once a dictature- as Greece (or Romania.)
Stremmenos and the leaders of DGT have been
comrades in fighting against the military regime-
and
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
So, this begs the
question: why doesn't Stremmenos go to DGT's labs and take a look around. I
take it he could do just that anytime he wants to. Right?
This makes no sense.
It is the damnedest thing I have seen in a long
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
I think people coming from a country with a relatively normal history re
not able to understand well the behaviour of people coming from a country
that was once a dictature- as Greece (or Romania.)
I knew lots of people who lived through the militarist
Glad you responded to DGT, Jed,
You conclude with:
I do not think I can get the message through.
I suppose they do not want to hear it.
I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message.
They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic
business reasons,
Let me expand on some thoughts.
I gather Stremmenos has yet to visit DGT's labs. Why?
Several scenarios come to mind:
* If Stremmenos were to discover the fact that DGT's hyperons are
authentic, and that have created their own version of the secret
sauce, it would essentially authenticate DGT's
Any dictature breeds irrationalities and it is difficult to compare Japan's
imperialist one seemingly very popular with the Greek one hated by the
democratic people. And the kamikaze were lead by a very peculiar
rationality.
I think analogies have limited domains of application, we have to take
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message.
They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic
business reasons, they continue to deliberately obfuscate the issue by
exercising the art of deflection and misdirection.
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
And the kamikaze were lead by a very peculiar rationality.
A horrible business. For insight into it, see the book I was a Kamikaze
by Ruiji Nagatsuka, and Blossoms in the Wind: Human Legacies of the
Kamikaze, by M.G. Sheftall. I know some pilots in the
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their
reactors
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message.
They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic
From Robert:
...
Whether the decision is based on strategy or attorney's recommendation
is anybody's guess.
IMO, both are good guesses. ...a little of both.
I bet lawyers on both sides of the fence will make a bundle of money. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Defkalion's responses have a highly Steornish flavor. They are tangential.
Evasive. I doubt it's a language problem.
The most likely reason Defkalion answers Jed the way they do is that they
depended on Rossi's word and his delivery of technology which never
happened. My best guess is that it
How come Mary Yugo explanations of the current events sounds always the
most rational, well thought and coherent?
It just fits all the facts.
Giovanni
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
Defkalion's responses have a highly Steornish flavor. They are
On 11-12-20 10:44 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
I'm inclined to speculate that, yes, they HAVE gotten your message.
They probably got your message long ago. But perhaps, for strategic
business reasons, they continue to deliberately obfuscate the issue by
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
And if they're actually con guys, well, most criminals are, after all,
kind of dumb (despite the fact that the ones who get famous and written up
in the news tend to be exceptionally intelligent). This has been
From Stephen:
Perhaps they *are* stupid.
That issue is quite independent of whether they're honest. Not everybody in
business who is in a position to control substantial sums is highly
intelligent, after all.
And if they're actually con guys, well, most criminals are, after all, kind
of
Giovanni sez:
How come Mary Yugo explanations of the current events
sounds always the most rational, well thought and coherent?
It just fits all the facts.
According to your personal paradigm.
There will always be mutual admiration societies.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
Maryyugo's explanation always sounds more rational because he, she conveniently
omits the part that Rossi has allowed independent tests (although not performed
to his liking) and these tests do show O/I, especially Lewan's 2nd test and the
one performed by E K. If you added the following to
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 10:52 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps it would be wise to stop further speculation until we can
discern a more definitive pattern of actions from the primary actors
of this drama.
You can certainly abstain from speculation
Nothing new in Mary's post. as USUAL.
The same old very tired speculations which PROVE nothing.
Same waste of bandwidth.
From: Mary Yugo [mailto:maryyu...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:32 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Nothing new in Mary’s post… as USUAL.
The same old very tired speculations which PROVE nothing.
Same waste of bandwidth.
Maybe the pattern I pointed out is not news but there is no speculation
: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:52 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Once again, I advise Defkalion to show Stremmenos their
reactors
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
Nothing new in Mary's post. as USUAL.
The same old very
Found the Defkalion factory coordinates. It is indeed close to the Xanthi
Police Academy.
Here they are:
41.1188
24.8674
Giovanni
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 7:47 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:44 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
I am surely not making any friends at Defkalion.
This is a surrealistic conversation.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4879#p4879
JedRothwell wrote:
What is disturbing about Defkalion is their dispute with Stremmenos. To
have member of the Board of Directors accusing you of
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