It could be that the nature of the light is very unusual as produced by the
reactor. If only infrared photons were monochromatically emitted (like a
laser) that all corresponded to the exact temperature of 1400C. and no
other photon energy wavelengths was produced, then the light would not be
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From: Axil Axil
To: vortex-l
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 11:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
It could be that the nature of the light is very unusual as produced by the
reactor. If only infrared photons were monochromatically emitted (like
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that the nature of the light is very unusual as produced by the
reactor. If only infrared photons were monochromatically emitted (like a
laser) that all corresponded to the exact temperature of 1400C. and no
other photon energy wavelengths was
This behavior of alumina that you are rendering could be just another
assumption. There needs to be many cross checks and calibrations to find
out what assumptions are reliable and which observations are not reliable.
There seems to be many weird things that are going on inside the
reactor like
On surface the report contains as many imperfections as the alumina tube.
;-)
harry
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:
It could be that the nature of the light is very unusual as produced by
the reactor. If only
A lack of caftsmanship is not necessarily antithetical to greatness.
e.g. The first transistor was crudely assembled.
http://cnx.org/resources/9120e4bccd37da6ab1c4ff90e8c498cc/firsttransistor.gif
Harry
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:15 PM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
On surface the report
I think the images from the report seen in Figures 12a, 12b, Image 12b is very
underexposed , I adjusted the exposure levels on 12b and made a side by side
image to compare, it seems that the color temperature might be quite a bit
whiter, perhaps even white hot. when seen as it would have
On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 11:49 AM, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
A lack of caftsmanship is not necessarily antithetical to greatness.
e.g. The first transistor was crudely assembled.
http://cnx.org/resources/9120e4bccd37da6ab1c4ff90e8c498cc/firsttransistor.gif
They definitely weren't
From: H Veeder
* Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the
incandescent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies.
Yup. And as far back as 1886 it was noticed that alumina, in one form, was
phosphorescent. A paper by Crookes (the one of radiometer
Furthermore…
If the grade of Inconel was 625 or 617 - either or which contains about ¼ of
the alloy as chromium, then the ppm “bleed” from these wires into an alumina
coating or paste could provide redish phosphorescent color. It requires very
little chrome for a ruby glow.
We should know
speculation on the inconel, the photography are good for question, but
theres too many uncertainties...
maybe the resistor is not at all inconel, and the inconel is only used for
connecting wires, or they are not even the classic inconel but some
variant...
for the color, may main hypotheis is
From rossi:
The coils of the reactor are made with a proptietary alloy, and the
inconel is only a doped component of it.
And
The nature and composition of the coils are of paramount importance in our
IP and for obvious reasons I will not give any more information
And
stupidity, Alumina
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com
wrote:
From rossi:
The coils of the reactor are made with a proptietary alloy, and the
inconel is only a doped component of it.
And
The nature and composition of the coils are of paramount importance in
our IP and for
I wrote:
With what we currently know, ultimately one must take the details on faith,
which is precisely what skeptics will not want to do.
Obviously this is not the mode of science. The report provided little to
follow upon via scientific investigation. It was more like a piece of
long-form
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
If the outside surface temperature really is 1400 deg C, then the outside
surface material should be incandescent white. It does not matter what the
inside temperature is. All materials glow with the same incandescent
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
From: H Veeder
Ø Other examples of light emitting bodies which* do not* follow the
incandescent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies.
Yup. And as far back as 1886 it was noticed that
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 2:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I found another entry relating to heat treating of metals
.
Dave
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From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 2:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I found another entry relating to heat treating of metals
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 3:00 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
Should the reactor radiate like a normal incandescent body of 1400C or does
the reactor radiate according to some other rules?
Jed (and Mizuno?) assume it behaves like a normal incandescent body
:00 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
Should the reactor radiate like a normal incandescent body of 1400C or
does the reactor radiate according to some other rules?
Jed (and Mizuno?) assume it behaves like a normal incandescent body of
1400C so it should glow white. Since it doesn't
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
In the report they said they were unable to attach a thermocouple to the
exterior of tube.
But there is one inside. I asked whether they have readings from it.
- Jed
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
In the report they said they were unable to attach a thermocouple to the
exterior of tube.
But there is one inside. I asked whether they have readings from it.
- Jed
We need to enlarge our model space rather than limiting ourselves to one
model that is inconsistent with the observations.
Consider the difference between the sun at noon and the sun at dawn/dusk.
The interior of the HotCat glows white but from the outside it glows red
like a sunrise because it
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jed--
I hope you get an answer. This question has caused me to resist getting
into a give and take about the camera data. The thermocouple must have
been used to calibrate the camera at operating conditions, IF IT
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Color Temperature
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
Jed--
I hope you get an answer. This question has caused me to resist getting
into a give and take about the camera data. The thermocouple must have been
used
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider the difference between the sun at noon and the sun at dawn/dusk.
The interior of the HotCat glows white but from the outside it glows red
like a sunrise because it is shinning through an atmosphere of alumina.
It does not work that way. If the
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider the difference between the sun at noon and the sun at dawn/dusk.
The interior of the HotCat glows white but from the outside it glows red
like a sunrise because it is
The surface temperature of the Sun is effectively several millions of
degrees. The atmosphere of the Sun is heated by magnetic fields from deep
within the core of the Sun. Yes, the surface of the Sun is cool, but the
roiling Corona is the plasma that produces the bright white light that we
see
I think the fact you can the see the possible outline of a coil and
possibly fins shows a difference in visible//translucent light radiation in
those areas.
I also find quite a bit of research on translucent sintered alumina and its
ability to scatter light through rayleigh and mie scattering.
Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the
incandascent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence
Harry
On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:27 PM, H Veeder
Many different types of Luminescence are listed here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminescence
quote
Luminescence is emission of light by a substance not resulting from heat;
it is thus a form of cold body radiation. It can be caused by chemical
reactions, electrical energy, subatomic motions,
I found another entry relating to heat treating of metals. There is a picture
of a heat treated casting that states that it was just removed from the oven
after heating at 1200 C for 12 hours. Again, the color of the casting is very
orange. Why does this not apply to the case at hand?
The
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I found another entry relating to heat treating of metals. There is a
picture of a heat treated casting that states that it was just removed from
the oven after heating at 1200 C for 12 hours.
I presume the castings were removed a few minutes before
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