Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Foster
You've wandered directly into my wheelhouse in this discussion. I have worked 
with very high power medium pressure mercury arcs literally every working day 
for the last 25 years.. Early on, since I tend to be rather careless, I would 
develop UV conjunctivitis, which feels like someone dumped a handful  of sand 
into your eyes. Over the years I have developed a resistance to this effect. 
Perhaps it's a "corneal suntan". You can get special safety glasses to absorb 
the damaging wavelengths, but they are not inexpensive. Most if the glasses 
sold for this purpose really don't work. You have to interpose the lenses 
between the light source and a fluorescent material to see if they are 
effective. All of the inexpensive ones I have tested fail. This is just the 
usual *** cheap crap that they will lie about to get you to buy it. It's 
how we got to our present situation of debt and disease.

The problem with "about a million 254 nm UVGI systems" is that they are mercury 
arcs. They are virtually all made in *. They are suspiciously inexpensive, 
even for *** product.  This makes me wonder if they are borosilicate tubes 
rather than the fused quartz required to pass 254 nm. If that is the case, you 
would be buying something that would have several of the irritating UV 
wavelengths without the benefit of the virus killing 254 nm. *** sellers 
will lie about practically anything to get you to buy. I don't have one of 
these inexpensive UVGI devices to test, but I think I might buy one just for 
that purpose.

Probably, all the 222 nm excimer lamps are made in * now. There are U.S. 
companies making and selling products using such bulbs, but I think all the 
tubes themselves are made in *.  We really need to pull our heads out. 









 On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 12:13:51 AM UTC, Terry Blanton 
 wrote:







On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster  wrote:
Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long term 
exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan Berry 
points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.

Well, there's only about a million 254 nm UVGI systems out there and they are 
quite inexpensive.  But, if you feel compelled to stare at the photon source, 
spring for these $10 safety glasses.  They meet CSA Z94.3 standards.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000USRG90/

 Virus-free. www.avast.com



Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-22 Thread Michael Foster
test








 On Wednesday, April 22, 2020, 12:13:51 AM UTC, Terry Blanton 
 wrote:







On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster  wrote:
Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long term 
exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan Berry 
points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.

Well, there's only about a million 254 nm UVGI systems out there and they are 
quite inexpensive.  But, if you feel compelled to stare at the photon source, 
spring for these $10 safety glasses.  They meet CSA Z94.3 standards.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000USRG90/

 Virus-free. www.avast.com



Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Jonathan Berry
Well 222nm-ish (220nm for sure) LED's are possible as are higher
frequencies also.
But they aren't available commercially as far as I can tell, but they have
been made.

On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 at 07:32, Michael Foster  wrote:

> Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long
> term exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan
> Berry points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.
>
> I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride
> excimer  bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of
> "Tom Swift and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more
> effective than masks. As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered
> out to keep the light from being annoying, it could kill the viruses before
> being inhaled and also from penetrating through the eyes.  I'd much rather
> wear such a contraption than a mask.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton <
> hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>  UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available.
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it
> does not kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful
> vaccine for a corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.
> Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable
> levels of antibodies.
> So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy,
> but the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and
> again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1%
> fatality rate.
> I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that
> either have enough output.
> Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:
> This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own
> krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise
> up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here
> now.  I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball
> cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill.
> This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high
> voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of
> excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as
> rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric
> pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low
> pressure.
>
>
>
> OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the
> virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this
> absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from
> being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on
> faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The
> overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years,
> meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would
> probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the
> practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not
> that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially.
>
>
>
> Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona
> virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate
> that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You are sort of missing the point though!
>
> The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that
> might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!
>
> It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water
> film on your eye.
>
> But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Very good new from California.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  only 1 out of 50 infected does get
>
>  symptoms!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Fairly consistent
>
>  research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high
>
>  voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
>
>  can cause it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You should not live to close to such
>
>  transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Leukemia (in
>
>  

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster  wrote:

> Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long
> term exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan
> Berry points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.
>

Well, there's only about a million 254 nm UVGI systems out there and they
are quite inexpensive.  But, if you feel compelled to stare at the photon
source, spring for these $10 safety glasses.  They meet CSA Z94.3 standards.

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000USRG90/


Virus-free.
www.avast.com

<#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>


Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Charles

I had imagined every adult did this, but it turns out to be cultural:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340050986_The_Impact_of_Cross-Cultural_Differences_in_Handwashing_Patterns_on_the_COVID-19_Outbreak_Magnitude

On 21/04/2020 21:50, ChemE Stewart wrote:

How about just wash with soap :)




Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Foster
Soap stings my eyes and  makes me choke when I inhale it :-)








 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 07:50:34 PM UTC, ChemE Stewart 
 wrote:





 How about just wash with soap :)
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster  wrote:
Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long term 
exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan Berry 
points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.



I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride excimer  
bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of "Tom Swift 
and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more effective than masks. 
As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered out to keep the light from 
being annoying, it could kill the viruses before being inhaled and also from 
penetrating through the eyes.  I'd much rather wear such a contraption than a 
mask.

















 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton 
 wrote:











 UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/

https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW



On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry  
wrote:

The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it does not 
kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful vaccine for a 
corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.

Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable levels of 
antibodies.

So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy, but the 
only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and again with 
what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1% fatality rate.

I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that either 
have enough output.

Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:

This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own krypton. 
222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise up and make 
the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here now.  I know 
this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball cap could be made 
with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill. This certainly isn't 
impossible what with all the really compact high voltage supplies that are made 
now. I doubt if making large numbers of excimer bulbs would have much of an 
effect on the price of krypton as rather large amounts are used in double pane 
windows at near atmospheric pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, 
use small amounts a low pressure.







OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the virus 
and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this absurd lock 
down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. 
This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on faulty computer models 
like most of our predictions of doom lately. The overall death rate in the U.S. 
is down somewhat from previous years, meaning that the people who supposedly 
succumbed to the Wuhan virus would probably have died of something else in the 
same time period. Given the practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from 
covid19 whether or not that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers 
substantially.







Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona virus 
this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate that the 
latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?































 On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry 
 wrote:























 You are sort of missing the point though!



The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that might be 
with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!



It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water film 
on your eye.



But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.



On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:























 Very good new from California.



















 
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/



























 only 1 out of 50 infected does get



 symptoms!!!























 Fairly consistent



 research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high



 voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR



 can cause it.















 You should not live to close to such



 transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.















 Leukemia (in



 children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles



 from a nuclear plant.























 J.W.























 Am 

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread ChemE Stewart
How about just wash with soap :)

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:32 PM Michael Foster  wrote:

> Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long
> term exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan
> Berry points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.
>
> I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride
> excimer  bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of
> "Tom Swift and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more
> effective than masks. As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered
> out to keep the light from being annoying, it could kill the viruses before
> being inhaled and also from penetrating through the eyes.  I'd much rather
> wear such a contraption than a mask.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton <
> hohlr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>  UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available.
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/
>
> https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it
> does not kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful
> vaccine for a corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.
> Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable
> levels of antibodies.
> So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy,
> but the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and
> again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1%
> fatality rate.
> I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that
> either have enough output.
> Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:
> This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own
> krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise
> up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here
> now.  I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball
> cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill.
> This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high
> voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of
> excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as
> rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric
> pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low
> pressure.
>
>
>
> OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the
> virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this
> absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from
> being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on
> faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The
> overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years,
> meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would
> probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the
> practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not
> that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially.
>
>
>
> Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona
> virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate
> that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You are sort of missing the point though!
>
> The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that
> might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!
>
> It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water
> film on your eye.
>
> But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.
>
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Very good new from California.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  only 1 out of 50 infected does get
>
>  symptoms!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Fairly consistent
>
>  research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high
>
>  voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
>
>  can cause it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  You should not live to close to such
>
>  transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Leukemia (in
>
>  children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles
>
>  from a nuclear plant.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  J.W.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Michael Foster
Yes, 254 nm is an excellent virus killer. However, unlike 222 nm, long term 
exposure to 254 nm can cause damage to the eyes and skin. As Jonathan Berry 
points out 222 nm won't even penetrate the water film on your eyes.

I still like my idea of a baseball cap with a small xenon chloride excimer  
bulb attached to the underside of the bill. Sounds silly, sort of "Tom Swift 
and his Amazing Virus Killing Hat", but it might be more effective than masks. 
As long as the visible wavelengths can be filtered out to keep the light from 
being annoying, it could kill the viruses before being inhaled and also from 
penetrating through the eyes.  I'd much rather wear such a contraption than a 
mask. 








 On Tuesday, April 21, 2020, 05:40:09 PM UTC, Terry Blanton 
 wrote:





 UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/
https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry  
wrote:
The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it does not 
kill.Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful vaccine for a 
corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.
Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable levels of 
antibodies.
So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy, but the 
only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and again with 
what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1% fatality rate.
I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that either 
have enough output.
Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.
On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:
This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own krypton. 
222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise up and make 
the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here now.  I know 
this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball cap could be made 
with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill. This certainly isn't 
impossible what with all the really compact high voltage supplies that are made 
now. I doubt if making large numbers of excimer bulbs would have much of an 
effect on the price of krypton as rather large amounts are used in double pane 
windows at near atmospheric pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, 
use small amounts a low pressure.



OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the virus 
and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this absurd lock 
down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. 
This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on faulty computer models 
like most of our predictions of doom lately. The overall death rate in the U.S. 
is down somewhat from previous years, meaning that the people who supposedly 
succumbed to the Wuhan virus would probably have died of something else in the 
same time period. Given the practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from 
covid19 whether or not that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers 
substantially.



Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona virus 
this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate that the 
latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?















 On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry 
 wrote:











 You are sort of missing the point though!

The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that might be 
with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!

It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water film 
on your eye.

But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:











 Very good new from California.









 
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/













 only 1 out of 50 infected does get

 symptoms!!!











 Fairly consistent

 research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high

 voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR

 can cause it.







 You should not live to close to such

 transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.







 Leukemia (in

 children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles

 from a nuclear plant.











 J.W.











 Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE

 Stewart:











 Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and

 damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown

 voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in

 the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are

 not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad

 spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc

 

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-21 Thread Terry Blanton
UVGI uses 254 nm...readily available.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4699414/

https://smile.amazon.com/Type-watt-UV-C-Germicidal-Replacement/dp/B007NW9WFW


On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 10:21 PM Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it
> does not kill.
> Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful vaccine for a
> corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.
>
> Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable
> levels of antibodies.
>
> So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy,
> but the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and
> again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1%
> fatality rate.
>
> I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that
> either have enough output.
>
> Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:
>
>> This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own
>> krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise
>> up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here
>> now.  I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball
>> cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill.
>> This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high
>> voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of
>> excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as
>> rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric
>> pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low
>> pressure.
>>
>> OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the
>> virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this
>> absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from
>> being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on
>> faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The
>> overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years,
>> meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would
>> probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the
>> practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not
>> that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially.
>>
>> Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona
>> virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate
>> that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry <
>> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  You are sort of missing the point though!
>> The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that
>> might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!
>> It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water
>> film on your eye.
>> But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.
>> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Very good new from California.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  only 1 out of 50 infected does get
>>  symptoms!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Fairly consistent
>>  research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high
>>  voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
>>  can cause it.
>>
>>
>>
>>  You should not live to close to such
>>  transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Leukemia (in
>>  children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles
>>  from a nuclear plant.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  J.W.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE
>>  Stewart:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and
>>  damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown
>>  voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in
>>  the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are
>>  not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad
>>  spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc
>>  down to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high
>>  frequency UV range doing the cellular damage over time nearby.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Fairly consistent research results showing
>>  increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines
>>  but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it.  I expect it
>>  is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is dependent upon local
>>  weather and line conditions.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines
>>
>>

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-20 Thread Jonathan Berry
The harm from the virus is significant and lasting for many even if it does
not kill.
Also Corona viruses, well there has never been a successful vaccine for a
corona virus and immunity seems not to be lasting.

Indeed about a 3rd of those who have had it seem not to have notable levels
of antibodies.

So herd immunity is really untenable, it needs to be stopped, not easy, but
the only way it's not just going to keep on hitting humanity again and
again with what seem to be at the most optimistic to be a roughly 1%
fatality rate.

I have found two US manufacturers of 222nm bulbs, not sure though that
either have enough output.

Good to know it's krypton chloride, wasn't aware.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 04:35, Michael Foster  wrote:

> This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own
> krypton. 222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise
> up and make the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here
> now.  I know this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball
> cap could be made with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill.
> This certainly isn't impossible what with all the really compact high
> voltage supplies that are made now. I doubt if making large numbers of
> excimer bulbs would have much of an effect on the price of krypton as
> rather large amounts are used in double pane windows at near atmospheric
> pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, use small amounts a low
> pressure.
>
> OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the
> virus and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this
> absurd lock down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from
> being overwhelmed. This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on
> faulty computer models like most of our predictions of doom lately. The
> overall death rate in the U.S. is down somewhat from previous years,
> meaning that the people who supposedly succumbed to the Wuhan virus would
> probably have died of something else in the same time period. Given the
> practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from covid19 whether or not
> that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers substantially.
>
> Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona
> virus this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate
> that the latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>  You are sort of missing the point though!
> The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that
> might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!
> It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water
> film on your eye.
> But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.
> On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>  Very good new from California.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  only 1 out of 50 infected does get
>  symptoms!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>  Fairly consistent
>  research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high
>  voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
>  can cause it.
>
>
>
>  You should not live to close to such
>  transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.
>
>
>
>  Leukemia (in
>  children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles
>  from a nuclear plant.
>
>
>
>
>
>  J.W.
>
>
>
>
>
>  Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE
>  Stewart:
>
>
>
>
>
>  Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and
>  damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown
>  voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in
>  the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are
>  not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad
>  spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc
>  down to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high
>  frequency UV range doing the cellular damage over time nearby.
>
>
>
>
>  Fairly consistent research results showing
>  increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines
>  but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it.  I expect it
>  is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is dependent upon local
>  weather and line conditions.
>
>
>
>
>
> https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines
>
>
>
>  If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation
>  that implies it is reaching the lens/ground & biology
>
>
>
>
>  https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU
>
>
>
>
>  https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11
>  PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I
>  had a friend who lived 

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-20 Thread Michael Foster
This is a really good idea. Fortunately, the U.S. can supply its own krypton. 
222 nm lamps are krypton chloride excimer bulbs. Maybe we can wise up and make 
the lamps in the United States. I doubt that any are made here now.  I know 
this sounds ridiculous at the moment, but what if a baseball cap could be made 
with a small excimer lamp on the under side of the bill. This certainly isn't 
impossible what with all the really compact high voltage supplies that are made 
now. I doubt if making large numbers of excimer bulbs would have much of an 
effect on the price of krypton as rather large amounts are used in double pane 
windows at near atmospheric pressure. The krypton chloride bulbs, conversely, 
use small amounts a low pressure.

OTOH, all of this prevention simply delays people being exposed to the virus 
and thus delaying the herd immunity. The original premise of this absurd lock 
down was to "flatten the curve" and prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. 
This exercise in totalitarian despotism was based on faulty computer models 
like most of our predictions of doom lately. The overall death rate in the U.S. 
is down somewhat from previous years, meaning that the people who supposedly 
succumbed to the Wuhan virus would probably have died of something else in the 
same time period. Given the practice of reporting deaths of the elderly as from 
covid19 whether or not that was the known cause no doubt inflates the numbers 
substantially.

Influenza deaths will probably exceed the deaths caused by the corona virus 
this year. This is just a guess on my part, probably more accurate that the 
latest computer models. But we all just love to panic don't we?  







 On Saturday, April 18, 2020, 11:10:48 PM UTC, Jonathan Berry 
 wrote:





 You are sort of missing the point though!
The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that might be 
with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!
It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water film 
on your eye.
But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.
On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:





 Very good new from California.




 
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/






 only 1 out of 50 infected does get
 symptoms!!!





 Fairly consistent
 research results showing increased rate of leukemias near high
 voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
 can cause it.



 You should not live to close to such
 transmission lines due to high magnetic fields.



 Leukemia (in
 children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 miles
 from a nuclear plant.





 J.W.





 Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE
 Stewart:





 Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and
 damage to insulators/lines all reduce the local breakdown
 voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing N2 and O2 in
 the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are
 not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad
 spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc
 down to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high
 frequency UV range doing the cellular damage over time nearby.




 Fairly consistent research results showing
 increased rate of leukemias near high voltage transmission lines
 but little evidence low frequency EMR can cause it.  I expect it
 is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is dependent upon local
 weather and line conditions.




 
https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines



 If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation
 that implies it is reaching the lens/ground & biology




 https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU




 https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300

































 On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11
 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:







I
 had a friend who lived for 30 years with high
 voltage transmission lines  at the edge of his
 property in Spokane County.  He died about 6 or 7
 years ago from two separate cancers.  His son who
 lived with him in his home  (30 years his junior)
 also died of cancer within a month of his father.
 All the cancers were of different types.





My
 friend would comment how the lines would
 crackle
 in humid conditions.  I always assumed it was steam
 explosions of small water droplets.





Thus
 a strange noise associated with transmission lines
 may also deter the movement of large animals.





Bob
 Cook











Sent from
 Mail for Windows 10










From:
 ChemE
 Stewart

 Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM

 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic!
 And the next one...








Time elapse UV emissions from
 high voltage transmission lines.











https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/









Broad spectrum UV light
 

Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread Jonathan Berry
You are sort of missing the point though!

The point is that 222nm UVC light kills the virus (however ironic that
might be with HV corona emitting UV) and this 222nm UV is safe, not harmful!

It doesn't even get through to live skin cells or even through the water
film on your eye.

But it destroys the virus in the air and on surfaces.

On Sun, 19 Apr 2020 at 08:41, Jürg Wyttenbach  wrote:

> Very good new from California.
>
>
> https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/
>
> only 1 out of 50 infected does get symptoms!!!
>
> Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias
> near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
> can cause it.
>
> You should not live to close to such transmission lines due to high
> magnetic fields.
>
> Leukemia (in children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20
> miles from a nuclear plant.
>
> J.W.
>
> Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE Stewart:
>
> Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and damage to insulators/lines all
> reduce the local breakdown voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing
> N2 and O2 in the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are
> not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad spectrum
> electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc down to low frequency
> radio noise. It is most likely the high frequency UV range doing the
> cellular damage over time nearby.
>
> Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias
> near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR
> can cause it.  I expect it is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is
> dependent upon local weather and line conditions.
>
>
> https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines
>
> If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation that implies it is
> reaching the lens/ground & biology
>
> https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU
>
> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
> bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I had a friend who lived for 30 years with high voltage transmission
>> lines  at the edge of his property in Spokane County.  He died about 6 or 7
>> years ago from two separate cancers.  His son who lived with him in his
>> home  (30 years his junior) also died of cancer within a month of his
>> father.  All the cancers were of different types.
>>
>>
>>
>> My friend would comment how the lines would *crackle* in humid
>> conditions.  I always assumed it was steam explosions of small water
>> droplets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thus a strange noise associated with transmission lines may also deter
>> the movement of large animals.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *ChemE Stewart 
>> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM
>> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...
>>
>>
>>
>> Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/
>>
>>
>>
>> Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high
>> voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at much of the UVA,UVB
>> and UVC range
>>
>>
>>
>> Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up on
>> lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird
>> crap...which is much of the time
>>
>>
>>
>> Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa re-routing
>> delivery routes.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry <
>> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks,
>> clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jürg Wyttenbach
> Bifangstr.22
> 8910 Affoltern a.A.
> 044 760 14 18
> 079 246 36 06
>
>


Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach

Very good new from California.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/04/17/1000113/up-to-4-of-silicon-valley-already-infected-with-coronavirus/

only 1 out of 50 infected does get symptoms!!!

Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias 
near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency 
EMR can cause it.


You should not live to close to such transmission lines due to high 
magnetic fields.


Leukemia (in children) is also slightly increased in a radius up to 20 
miles from a nuclear plant.


J.W.

Am 18.04.20 um 21:17 schrieb ChemE Stewart:
Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and damage to insulators/lines 
all reduce the local breakdown voltage.  The strong electric field is 
ionizing N2 and O2 in the air and producing ozone and NOx which by 
themselves are not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing 
broad spectrum electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc down 
to low frequency radio noise. It is most likely the high frequency UV 
range doing the cellular damage over time nearby.


Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias 
near high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency 
EMR can cause it.  I expect it is the high frequency UV spectrum and 
it is dependent upon local weather and line conditions.


https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines

If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation that implies it is 
reaching the lens/ground & biology


https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300











On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com 
 > wrote:


I had a friend who lived for 30 years with high voltage
transmission lines  at the edge of his property in Spokane
County.  He died about 6 or 7 years ago from two separate
cancers.  His son who lived with him in his home  (30 years his
junior) also died of cancer within a month of his father. All the
cancers were of different types.

My friend would comment how the lines would _crackle_ in humid
conditions.  I always assumed it was steam explosions of small
water droplets.

Thus a strange noise associated with transmission lines may also
deter the movement of large animals.

Bob Cook

Sent from Mail 
for Windows 10

*From: *ChemE Stewart 
*Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM
*To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com 
*Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines.


https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/

Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on
exposed high voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at
much of the UVA,UVB and UVC range

Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up
on lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird
crap...which is much of the time

Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa
re-routing delivery routes.


https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry
mailto:jonathanberry3...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces,
skin, masks, clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs



--
Jürg Wyttenbach
Bifangstr.22
8910 Affoltern a.A.
044 760 14 18
079 246 36 06



Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
Damp conditions, dew buildup, pollution and damage to insulators/lines all
reduce the local breakdown voltage.  The strong electric field is ionizing
N2 and O2 in the air and producing ozone and NOx which by themselves are
not healthy long term. The ionization is also releasing broad spectrum
electromagnetic pollution from high frequency UVc down to low frequency
radio noise. It is most likely the high frequency UV range doing the
cellular damage over time nearby.

Fairly consistent research results showing increased rate of leukemias near
high voltage transmission lines but little evidence low frequency EMR can
cause it.  I expect it is the high frequency UV spectrum and it is
dependent upon local weather and line conditions.

https://www.webmd.com/cancer/lymphoma/news/20050602/child-leukemia-again-linked-to-power-lines

If special UVc cameras are detecting the radiation that implies it is
reaching the lens/ground & biology

https://youtu.be/NsSXjFMHIuU

https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8727300











On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 2:11 PM bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I had a friend who lived for 30 years with high voltage transmission lines
>  at the edge of his property in Spokane County.  He died about 6 or 7 years
> ago from two separate cancers.  His son who lived with him in his home  (30
> years his junior) also died of cancer within a month of his father.  All
> the cancers were of different types.
>
>
>
> My friend would comment how the lines would *crackle* in humid
> conditions.  I always assumed it was steam explosions of small water
> droplets.
>
>
>
> Thus a strange noise associated with transmission lines may also deter the
> movement of large animals.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *ChemE Stewart 
> *Sent: *Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...
>
>
>
> Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/
>
>
>
> Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high
> voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at much of the UVA,UVB
> and UVC range
>
>
>
> Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up on
> lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird
> crap...which is much of the time
>
>
>
> Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa re-routing
> delivery routes.
>
>
>
>
> https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry <
> jonathanberry3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks,
> clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs
>
>
>


RE: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
I had a friend who lived for 30 years with high voltage transmission lines  at 
the edge of his property in Spokane County.  He died about 6 or 7 years ago 
from two separate cancers.  His son who lived with him in his home  (30 years 
his junior) also died of cancer within a month of his father.  All the cancers 
were of different types.

My friend would comment how the lines would crackle in humid conditions.  I 
always assumed it was steam explosions of small water droplets.

Thus a strange noise associated with transmission lines may also deter the 
movement of large animals.

Bob Cook



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: ChemE Stewart
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 6:23 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines.

https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/

Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high 
voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at much of the UVA,UVB and 
UVC range

Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up on 
lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird crap...which is 
much of the time

Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa re-routing delivery 
routes.

https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html










On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry 
mailto:jonathanberry3...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks, clothing 
in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs



Re: [Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread ChemE Stewart
Time elapse UV emissions from high voltage transmission lines.

https://www.ultravioletphotography.com/content/index.php/topic/763-power-lines-in-uv/

Broad spectrum UV light pollution is a common occurrence on exposed high
voltage systems and unhealthy long term to biology at much of the UVA,UVB
and UVC range

Fortunately it only occurs when air is damp, pollution builds up on
lines/insulators, insulators/lines are cracked/damaged, or bird
crap...which is much of the time

Scares the shit out of reindeer also and has led to Santa re-routing
delivery routes.

https://slate.com/technology/2014/03/power-lines-and-animals-flashing-uv-light-scares-reindeer.html










On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 7:34 AM Jonathan Berry 
wrote:

> Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks,
> clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs
>


[Vo]:Solution to the Pandemic! And the next one...

2020-04-18 Thread Jonathan Berry
Solution, 222nm UVC light to sterilize the air, surfaces, skin, masks,
clothing in supermarkets, on the street, everywhere!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U4DAQ3kjRs