Zell, Chris wrote:
If I find a free energy electrical device, I will measure its performance by DC
ONLY, no AC. There will be no questions about reactive power!
I feel compelled to quote the late Otto Schmitt who said in regards to
proving energy output, go heat water. To which I would
Zell, Chris wrote:
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm did. Apparently those
guys aren't aquainted with the history of FE fiascos. (For example, what will
they do when the burglaries start, or the anonymous
death threats are phoned in against their families?)
Zell, Chris wrote:
Get a copy of Confessions of an Economic Hitman and consider its contents.
I listened to the author being interviewed on C to C AM. I sent his URL
to the Salem Radio Network Talkers and was ignored. They are Center
Right, and America can do no wrong, seems to be a
>From Terry:
...
> If I could spend more time on the project, I am almost
> certain we could close the loop. But this waveform
> represents the gradient and is difficult to turn into
> the 1 joule pulse we need to fire the electromagnet.
> However, Paul is bored with this device having first
On 9/3/06, OrionWorks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm... Interesting. That billionaire investor's initials aren't B.G. are
they?
It would be nice to see some serious investment in these controversial areas
- finally.
Nope, R.R., from a totally energy unrelated business. AAMOF the
presentation
Terry,
Thanks for the clarification.
...
> An amusing anecdote: While they were signing the papers
> at one of the largest country clubs here, Paul said the
> waiter asked for RR's account number who gave the boy a
> three digit number. The waiter said that wasn't enough
> digits. RR said
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Jed Rothwell wrote:
In the case of free energy, a dramatic discovery could get an inventor
killed . . .
I doubt it, but that can easily be prevented, by going 100% public and
distributing thousands of copies of the plans via the Internet.
It might be simple, I don't think
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Willis Jenkin wrote:
What OU (hate this acronym) or FE (hate this to) device is indeed out there
that in any way can even hope to put the smallest of dents in the energy
industry as it exist today?
What successful devices are out there? If there really are any simple and
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Terry Blanton wrote:
I'd do exactly what Paul Sprain did.
Sprain? I haven't heard of him. You mean that he's closed the loop?
The websites say that he has yet another magnet motor, and that he
*measured* the energy coming out and found that it's more than the
Knew I should have left the laptop off until Tuesday, but guess I had better
answer this before then.
-Re: [Vo]: If you were Steorm, what would YOU do?
-William Beaty
-Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:52:13 -0700
-On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Willis Jenkin wrote:
What OU (hate this acronym) or FE (hate
On 9/2/06, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Terry Blanton wrote:
I'd do exactly what Paul Sprain did.
Sprain? I haven't heard of him.
Patent no. US 6954019. An elegent implementation of a magnetic
gradient motor . . . sort of a circular SMOT.
Here's a brief
On 9/2/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the voltage we have gotten from a permanent
magnet motor attached to the rotor:
http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/427_V_CH1.xl
the file should read:
http://www.geocities.com/terry1094/427_V_CH1.xls
But you probably figured that
Terry wrote:
.It looks like the new configuration will be able to generate 1000 to 3000
excess watts.
Wow, that's enough for someone to start a CULT with!
R.
On 9/1/06, William Beaty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm did.
I'd do exactly what Paul Sprain did. Once you get the patent, publish
enough information on the web that anyone with a little engineering
experience could replicate the device. Then
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, William Beaty wrote:
So, knowing what you know, what would you do differently?
Me, I'd firmly decide that already some better people than I had utterly
failed to find a way to make any money off such a discovery. It's just
too big.
By having a family who could receive
No disrespect in any way, BUT are not the attorneys the ones making the
money here? If you have enough money to take this approach then why bother
in the first place.
I have been on this earth for 69 years now and have seen business and
honesty go from a hand shake or a persons word to having
Simple
There are those that believe in the MIB's and those that are MIB's that say
they do not exist and the whole idea of suppression is CRAP!
You will not make Billions of dollars from any FE device, Period! Once you
find a key to the door the rest of the collective of minds will jump in
In regard to the spreading of plans, it is true that few people will
bother to build anything BUT I am unaware of any real Free energy
device out there, in the big
wide world that actually works. Almost without exception, such claims
are vague as to critical details and disappointing as to
William Beaty wrote:
Suppose you stumbled across the same thing that Steorm
did. Apparently those guys aren't aquainted with the history of FE
fiascos. (For example, what will they do when the burglaries start,
or the anonymous death threats are phoned in against their families?)
These
Willis Jenkin wrote:
There are those that believe in the MIB's and those that are MIB's that say
they do not exist and the whole idea of suppression is CRAP!
Cold fusion is the only 100% certified definitely-does-exists
anomalous form of energy. I am dead center in the cold fusion
business.
Jed sez:
...
> The Steorm people, in common with many cold fusion
> researchers, seem to be very anxious to convince
> mainstream skeptics that their claims are real.
> They are determined to publish papers in leading
> journals such as Nature, which is (literally) the last
> place on earth
Knowing what Steorn apparently know I would do pretty much what Steorn has done.Knowing what I know first I would pick friends and tell them everything, have them work with me in the workshop to replicate everything, they would know everything I would know.
After having about 20 such people
Schopenhauer on the three stages of truth:
First, ridicule; Second, vigorous opposition; Third, acceptance as
self-evident.
Swami Vivekananda:
Each work has to pass through these stages‹ridicule, opposition, and then
acceptance. Those who think ahead of their time are sure to be
misunderstood.
I to this day remember how I revolted against my German born grandfather
that told me, Son I have been there, I have made the mistakes, maybe not
all, but enough to help you get a good footing in life with little danger
and a possible good ending.
God! how I hated hearing that. I was young and
Zell, Chris wrote:
The problem with the examples you cite are that the industries that
were overcome DID NOT see it coming- and so did not suppress the
competition accordingly.
Incorrect. In the examples I gave, everyone saw it coming, but they
underestimated the extent of the changes. In the
In reply to Willis Jenkin's message of Fri, 1 Sep 2006 18:23:43
-0700:
Hi,
[snip]
So what do we do with the energy service industry?, the
production, support and scientific staff now employed by the existing
infrastructure? Do we all chip in and put them on ware fare?
I am going far to far here,
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