Knew I should have left the laptop off until Tuesday, but guess I had better answer this before then.
<->Re: [Vo]: If you were Steorm, what would YOU do? <->William Beaty <->Sat, 02 Sep 2006 13:52:13 -0700 <->On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Willis Jenkin wrote: > What OU (hate this acronym) or FE (hate this to) device is indeed out there > that in any way can even hope to put the smallest of dents in the energy > industry as it exist today? <->What successful devices are out there? If there really are any simple and <->working devices, then their inventors are keeping them secret. Or perhaps <->there are some successful devices buried in the huge number of fake "OU <->device plans" on various websites and patent archives. I had never thought of this possibility, if buried then very deeply indeed. <->In other words, the devices aren't outthere. There has NEVER been a simple <->successful OU device "out there," <->one which a kid can build for class, one which can run a flashlight bulb <->or keep your tea warm. I know they are not 'out there', simple or complex, yet hundreds of ego stars claim otherwise. My question is (was) if I had missed something and at long last some system managed to surface and survive? <->If you disagree, then let's see the device that you've built. We can post <->the plans on lenr-canr.org Heh. I do not disagree, yet I again question the 'moral' obligation to give such a device to the world for free, just to insure its sustained existence. <->Or are you keeping something secret? If I was it would remain so, isn't that what secrets are about? Simply put 'I do not hold the location of the pot of gold'. <->:) > Really, what? MIB's or no MIB's, you are NOT > going to be allowed to introduce ANY new source of energy to replace the > current, (unless you allow for another 100 years for its phase in). <->It's not "allow replacement" that's the issue. If you know of a working <->device, everyone on vortex-L can try building a copy. I can put the plans <->on scienceclub.org, or we can have S. Q. Field post it on scitoys.com as a <->project for kids. He already has a crude copper-oxide solar cell there, <->but no "OU energy device." We need a crude magnet-motor science project <->which actually works, and which kids can build for themselves. I hold the view that there are a number of forces working to maintain control, I'm sure they will enjoy this, but, I feel most governments are clue less. It's the non-government forces I have always wondered (truly feared) about. I like to make the reference as 'The Governors' rather than governments. Those silent unknown forces that are truly running the show. Paranoid? You bet. Make note of those that feel this is fantasy. > I am going far to far here, but a little thought on the chain reaction says > it will not happen even if it should. <->If you seriously think that ANY free-energy device is already out there <->and anyone can build one to demonstrate that it's real... which one is <->it? Have you made a successful Coler device or similar? Is it sitting in <->your garage, getting hot and putting out RF fields? If not, then do you <->know of someone else? It has to be someone who isn't trying to "get rich <->by keeping their device a secret." Consider this view. A system exists, yet the person or persons feel the world conditions are such that the release of such a system would spell its fate before ever being of benefit to a single individual. What if, it was determined that maybe 20-40 years from now the time may be ripe for such introduction. World conditions would be so bad that the massive need would insure that the people would not allow it to be buried. Following the same thought train lets assume there exists much like the tablets of Moses, full plans and a working system to start the whole chain of events when conditions are correct. Interesting and much different reasoning than what is normally advertised. Being in Seattle, and in the field you are in, I'm sure you must have heard of the farmer and his brother living in the Palouse out of Spokane. Think it was 1954 or 1955. The county sheriff and the REA made a visit. Seems people got nervous as the farm had electricity but was not connected to the grid. Found was a contraption (set of coils and a box with double sets of vibrating contacts, connected to a bank of batteries). Because the REA grid ran 100 yards from the shed, it was assumed fact that the contraption was stealing REA power. The device was taken by the sheriff and the REA. Wonder if this was the first so called OU device or a highly advanced theft way ahead of its time technology. I think most lists and groups are for self release, ego building and feeling a part of it all. The real shame of it all is that it also presents a platform for those "Governors" I worry about. (((((((((((((((((( ( ( ( ( (O) ) ) ) ) ))))))))))))))))))) William J. Beaty SCIENCE HOBBYIST website billb at amasci com http://amasci.com EE/programmer/sci-exhibits amateur science, hobby projects, sci fair Seattle, WA 425-222-5066 unusual phenomena, tesla coils, weird sci
