WTF! I really makes me sad that there are people trying to rip people off in
this way. :(. No idea where they got my email address from.
Joe
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Maurice Brown
> Subject: The Easiest 100% FREE Electricity...Build It In Less Than An Hour!
> Date: 1 August 2011 11:35:
Thank you, Bill!
That was a good move IMO, which should certainly improve the atmosphere
here.
On 11-08-01 02:11 AM, William Beaty wrote:
Removed for repeated flagrant violation of Rule #2 "No Sneering." See:
On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> Back around 2008 I gather someone who went by the name of "Alsetalokin"
> (that's Nicola Tesla spelled backwards) brought an unusual magnetic motor
> configuration to the public domain's attention.
He got the idea fro
On 11-07-31 10:10 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson wrote:
Upon closer inspection, this counter-intuitive configuration is
actually less bizarre to comprehend to those (such as me) who have
studied magnetic characteristics, and who have performed countless
Finite Element Method Magnetic
I wrote:
> That's ~500 J/s. The flow rate is 2 g/s which takes 180 J to bring to boil,
> leaving 320 J, which is enough to boil about half the water. The other half
> would have to overflow unboiled. For the reasons given by Storms and me I
> think this is unlikely.
>
That's wrong. I did not mea
"Anyway, the demonstration was unclear and there is not much point to trying
to analyze it in detail. I cannot understand why Rossi does not do a more
convincing test."
Oh, Jed, now even you are doubting!
Daniel Rocha wrote:
> "Anyway, the demonstration was unclear and there is not much point to
> trying to analyze it in detail. I cannot understand why Rossi does not do a
> more convincing test."
>
> Oh, Jed, now even you are doubting!
>
Sure. I have said this all along regarding the Krivit test
Oh, I see, only about Krivit's test. But I thought you'd like to go visit
Rossi even before that test.
>From Stephen,
> Please note that physics simulation packages are going to be based on
> physical law, as currently understood, and the "conventional" E&M model of
> magnetism is conservative. As a result, the assumption of conservative
> behavior is built into the modeling package.
>
> Consequen
Another question. If his facility in Florida is plenty of fine working
devices, why bring people up to Italy just to see one ? Wouldn't be better
to arrange demos next to the factory ?
2011/8/1 Jed Rothwell
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>
>> "Anyway, the demonstration was unclear and there is not mu
Terry,
Some follow-up comments.
> The present belief is that the whipmag was a hoax which got
> way out of hand when the vid went viral. Al removed the vid
> but it got copied by others. OC has since passed away and
> Al seems to regret the whole incident from what little he
> will say.
Consid
Andrea Selva wrote:
Another question. If his facility in Florida is plenty of fine working
devices, why bring people up to Italy just to see one ? Wouldn't be
better to arrange demos next to the factory ?
You would think so. I have no idea why he only invites people to Italy.
I can go to Flo
Makes "no sense" is a word too strong. I guess you are leaning to think he
is a crank. Well, if you Jed, throw in the towel, I will do it too, since
you are a huge fan and supporter of LENR for over 20 years.
Does anyone know where the Florida factory is located? He would
respond that he does not want anyone to know...
this man must be a secret agent, I even wonder if *he* is real... ;-)
mic
2011/8/1 Jed Rothwell :
> Andrea Selva wrote:
>
>> Another question. If his facility in Florida is plenty of
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:36 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> Regarding the animated graphic purporting to represent the "whipMag"
> configuration in action, as shown out at:
>
> http://www.overunity.org.uk/cmps_index.php?pageid=whipmag1
>
> this animation appears (to me) to have been a
>From Terry:
> Actually, the animation is per OC's idea which came to him in a dream.
> The whipmag was a variation on the dream.
That may be so, but OC's "dream" variation is, IMO, categorically
different than what "Alsetalokin's" original configuration appears to
show. IMHO, OC "dream", specif
Michele sez:
> Does anyone know where the Florida factory is located?
> He would respond that he does not want anyone to know...
> this man must be a secret agent, I even wonder if *he*
> is real... ;-)
I don't know if Michele was being serious about the "secret agent" bit
or not. The little smi
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 11:35 AM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> That may be so, but OC's "dream" variation is, IMO, categorically
> different than what "Alsetalokin's" original configuration appears to
> show. IMHO, OC "dream", specifically the dynamic animation displayed
> out at the web
Michele, if you look at this page
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/3705report3.shtml scrolling down
just past 50% you can see a note and a picture of the factory location :)
andrea
2011/8/1 Michele Comitini
> Does anyone know where the Florida factory is located? He would
> respond th
OK, not literally LOL, but that photo certainly got a chuckle out of me.
The Florida factory and Rossi's factory which was heated for two years
with a Rossi amplifier (and then sold before anyone else got to see it)
seem to me to share some significant characteristics.
Oh, and the isotope-shi
Like Art's Parts, these artifacts of the Roswell crash show isotopic anomalies:
http://www.openminds.tv/test-confirms-roswell-debris-733/
We had always planned to check small animal lairs if we ever had a
chance to visit the crash site.
T
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Andrea Selva
wrote:
> Michele, if you look at this
> page http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/3705report3.shtml scrolling
> down just past 50% you can see a note and a picture of the factory location
The address is from the state of Florida's records of the h
LOL
I remember reading in JONP that he stated that the factory was way
off from the leonardocorp office... indeed he may be welding his
reactors in the garage under that building.
mic
2011/8/1 Andrea Selva :
> Michele, if you look at this
> page http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2011/37/3705rep
Andrea Rossi
July 31st, 2011 at 5:36 PM
Dear Rick Gresham:
We can reach 500 Celsius, but in a very instable mode. The lower is the
T, the higher the stability. At the moment, to turn off the input power,
we must make steam at 100.1-101 Celsius; above this limit we need the
drive, we are able t
Cool!
Terry, can you give a link to something on the Art's Parts isotopic
anomalies?
And do you know if the isotope shifts were the same or similar in the
stuff Kimbler found?
On 11-08-01 01:37 PM, Terry Blanton wrote:
Like Art's Parts, these artifacts of the Roswell crash show isotopic an
Yeah, Rossi might even be a scammer, but Krivit made a very weak argument
there and it gives me doubts about the reliability of his report. I've had
neighbors whose (small) companies' offices were their own apartment.
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
> Cool!
>
> Terry, can you give a link to something on the Art's Parts isotopic
> anomalies?
>
> And do you know if the isotope shifts were the same or similar in the stuff
> Kimbler found?
How about one on alien implant isotopic anomalie
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Makes "no sense" is a word too strong.
It makes no sense to me!
> I guess you are leaning to think he is a crank.
I don't like the word "crank." He is one of the most eccentric people I
know, and I know many eccentric people. (Come to think of it, a "crank" in
the liter
Oh, dear. That went over the top.
So John Smith took a sojourn on one of the Longer Boats, I assume...?
I have an awful lot of trouble getting my disbelief sufficiently
suspended to deal with aliens who take people away, stick things in
them, and then put them back, even if Cat Stevens did ex
>From Terrry:
> The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
> compressed air nozzle.
A reasonably educated guess.
Nevertheless, I'm not yet ready to throw in the towel. (Or perhaps I'm
not finished obsessing over... I mean amusing myself over the
"Alsetalokin" matter.) ;-)
The original "
> From Terrry:
>
> > The consensus at the time was it was driven with a
> > compressed air nozzle.
Al spun the small gear several times before he was able to get the
device to start. Could the 'failed' attempts have been a cover for
winding a spring?
The thing that bugged me about the whipmag sa
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Oh, I see, only about Krivit's test. But I thought you'd like to go
visit Rossi even before that test.
Let me explain, briefly. Rossi invited me for a demonstration. We
discussed what it would consist of. I suggested he use a shorter hose
and a bucket to sparge the steam
Now some fun with cheap psychology ;-)
To explain some of Rossi's tactics look in his bio: he was a really
strong long distance runner.
"Andrea Rossi spent at least 8 hours a day studying and playing sports
(athletics, Italian champion of road race in 1970, in 1969 the junior
world record of 24
> The thing that bugged me about the whipmag saga was that Al did
> say, quietly, offhandedly, that no laws of physics were being
> broken, but made the demo look as convincing as he could.
Yes. Sounds like you were there for the whole stinking show. I have
followed his posts on the Steorn forum
I've read the whole thing a couple of times, and been through the
appendices once.
I'm still struck by Krivit's overall snarkiness -- and also he's ignoring
recent Rossi claims.
I'm not commenting on ANY of the steam-quality issues.
> Last year Rossi and Focardi claimed an energy gain of 213 tim
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> As for me, I'm tapped out cash wise. ... the garage is a mess, too.
Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail. I would
not advise you to follow suit.
T
I have not had a chance to read the Krivit newsletter yet, but I agree with
Fletcher's comments here. He wrote:
> > Last year Rossi and Focardi claimed an energy gain of 213 times. This
> year, Rossi downgraded that to six.
>
> But now he's claiming self-sustaining mode below 200 C. "This month,
>From Terry:
> Well, Clanzer, and others, built exact replicas to no avail.
> I would not advise you to follow suit.
I wasn't planning on it.
My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
an asymmetry might begin to manifest in "Alsetalokin's" ROTOR/STATOR
configuration
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:39 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
wrote:
> My initial interest was strongly biased towards speculating on whether
> an asymmetry might begin to manifest in "Alsetalokin's" ROTOR/STATOR
> configuration if everything could be carefully choreographed with a
> customized g
HI,
If you have very hot dry steam but at atmospheric pressure, what are the
options to convert that thermal energy into rotary energy?
Stirling engine? Steam compressor?
I know that most power plants use about 900°C and about 1000 PSI to run
the turbines, but what if you just don't have
>From Jed,
> I don't know what it is with people, pointing in triumph
> to something that everyone knows, and no one disputes, as
> if they are revealing some deep secret.
I realize you are probably expressing this out of a sense of exasperation.
What interests me is that when someone
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:15 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
wrote:
> . . .perhaps eccentricity and cynicism may not mix very well.
>
>
>
> My two cents.
:-)
Eccentricity and cynicism . . . two scents!
T
- Original Message -
> From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Cc:
> Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 5:39:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Revisiting The "Whipmag" All-Magnet Motor, saga
>
> However, despite my lack of funding & no shop issues, what makes me
> seriously d
Was going to blog about this tonight. The punchline is that, contrary to the
graph, the isotopic composition is very terrestrial.
Sent from my iPhone.
On Aug 1, 2011, at 13:37, Terry Blanton wrote:
> Like Art's Parts, these artifacts of the Roswell crash show isotopic
> anomalies:
>
> htt
Jed Rothwell wrote
>
>
>Harry Veeder wrote:
>
>
>Newtonian physics is generally not a part of everyday life experiences. It
>is an abstract generalisation deduced from some idealised situations.
>
>
>Good point. That's why these physics were not discovered until Newton, and why
>it took a gen
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