Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Susan Gipp
Jed Here the flow meter http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0LCgn_05ZGY/TWGehaAfm-I/E5w/Ew3nHhdHUDQ/s1600/E-Cat110211.jpg It's a simple house utility water meter like this

Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: Here the flow meter http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0LCgn_05ZGY/TWGehaAfm-I/E5w/Ew3nHhdHUDQ/s1600/E-Cat110211.jpg It's a simple house utility water meter like this Thanks. They said it was an ordinary utility meter. Why did you put the word flow

[Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Gluck
My dear friends, I have just published: http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/08/anticipating-1mw-demo.html and I ask you to take in consideration what I am asking there. It can be useful to find out e.g. how will this demo be better thank the experiments done with individual E-cats. Thank you!

Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: It is kind of sad that Levi refuses to admit that he did poor measurements with steam tests . . . 1. He does not think he did poor tests; neither do I; and neither does any expert I have heard from. People here who know little about calorimetry

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I believe I saw a longer one somewhere. Will ask Lewan. I stand corrected. Lewan said he has no videos of steam longer than this. Here is his entire response, with permission: Jed, I only observed the tube held upright once and did not study it carefully. There did come some water

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Again, if you write “7 l/h flow” you are talking about the test done in june, with Krivit. In june, there wan’t a weight scale, only a “Rossi said” that he controlled the flow by weighting it. But is a “Rossi said”. What we really know is the pump used, an LMI P18, and we know that the maximum

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
How do you know that 1 stroke = 1 click?

Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Susan Gipp
There were no unexplained power peaks, except for the first one. So your statement is hypothetical. It is also extremely unlikely for the following reasons: Jed have you had any a chance to live in Italy for some time ? The test location is just in the middle of an industrial area. - At any time

[Vo]:Re: I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
2. Apart from the initial heat burst, the temperature was steady, as shown in the laptop photos they took. So the flow must have been steady. You have a terrible confusion in your head. The “laptop photos” doesn’t exists at all for the february test (liquid water calorimetry) From: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Re: I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Apart from the initial heat burst, the temperature was steady, as shown in the laptop photos they took. So the flow must have been steady. You have a terrible confusion in your head. The “laptop photos” doesn’t exists at all for the february

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Again, if you write “7 l/h flow” you are talking about the test done in june, with Krivit. In june, there wan’t a weight scale . . . That is not clear. There may have been one. In any case, this same argument about how the pump works has been

[Vo]:Re: I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
Again, you wrote that “the temperature was steady, as shown in the laptop photos they took”. These photos are not pubblicated. So there isn’t “as show”, it’s again a “RossiLevi said”. From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:25 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: I

Re: [Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

2011-08-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
Quite simply, 1MW demo will show commersially ready prototype. Single modules that were thusfar shown, were just lab prototypes. And also there will be also single self-sustaining module tested for accurate calorimetry in October. Was this approach right or wrong, it can be debated. I think that

Re: [Vo]:I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Susan Gipp susan.g...@gmail.com wrote: Jed have you had any a chance to live in Italy for some time ? The test location is just in the middle of an industrial area. - At any time any business facility around could have drown an abnormal water consumption (there is a car wash nearby) At this

Re: [Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

2011-08-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Good ideas Jouni! Do you have some scheme imagined for how will the 330 generators linked and how the global parameters will be measured? Peter On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote: Quite simply, 1MW demo will show commersially ready prototype. Single

Re: [Vo]:Re: I was impressed by Levi in the video interview

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi wrote: Again, you wrote that “the temperature was steady, as shown in the laptop photos they took”. These photos are not pubblicated. So there isn’t “as show”, it’s again a “RossiLevi said”. It would be easy to make fake photos or a fake video. So even if they published photos,

Re: [Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

2011-08-24 Thread Jouni Valkonen
I think that 1MW plant will just sit there and generates the steam. But that single module test is where accurate calorimetry is done and also where hidden wires and hidden chemical energy sources are excluded. That is, scientific validation will be done with single module and 1MW plant is there

[Vo]:Lomax argument that detailed data is required to confirm unknown phenomena

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not like to be argumentative. Perhaps I misunderstand Abd's argument here. But it seems to me he repeatedly claimed that in order to measure a mysterious source of heat from an unknown phonomenon, you must have detailed, time-sequenced data. It is not enough to have one number. Even if the

Re: [Vo]:Lomax argument that detailed data is required to confirm unknown phenomena

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Sorry. I meant to say measuring the UFO speed does NOT call for modern methods, or photography. George Washington, who was well trained in surveying, could have done it with ease. (I suppose that training and tramping around in the wilderness surveying property must have proved invaluable to him

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
You can't argue with a weight scale and a clock Yeah. There is a problem: in Lewan’s test, where the flow was accurately measured by an independent observer (Lewan), the noise from the pump is consistent with the water flow written inside the report. But in June, when the water flow is another

Re: [Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mattia Rizzi mattia.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah. There is a problem: in Lewan’s test, where the flow was accurately measured by an independent observer (Lewan), the noise from the pump is consistent with the water flow written inside the report. Which report by Lewan do you refer to? What

Re: [Vo]:ANTICIPATING THE 1 MW DEMO

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: Was this approach right or wrong, it can be debated. I think that it was just wrong approach. I agree. Plus I think a test of a 1 MW reactor is fraught with difficulties. It is much easier to test 1 to 10 kW. In my opinnion Rossi should have

[Vo]:Re: Rossi Steam Quality Updates

2011-08-24 Thread Mattia Rizzi
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3166552.ece (with a video done for the 28 april test) Report of 28 april: http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3166569.ece/BINARY/Report+test+of+E-cat+28+April+2011.pdf As you can hear, the stroke frequency is around 32 strokes/minute,

[Vo]:I meant confidence that light has a speed

2011-08-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Scientific instruments and techniques hundreds of years old can measure temperature, the speed of an object, the speed of light and many other important values with as much confidence as the best technology can today; albeit with far less precision. Note that the speed of light

[Vo]:The Percolator Effect

2011-08-24 Thread Horace Heffner
The computations in the following pdfs are provided in order to hopefully permit more meaningful discussion or understanding of the percolator effect as it relates to Rossi type devices and simulators: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/KrivitFilm.pdf