Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Gluck
The Eschimoo style retirement system is a partial solution. I have confronted it for almost 16 years. Peter On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested with a highe

RE: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
It would not surprise me to learn that the Vort Collective is infested with a highe percentage of seniors who are older than me. I guess Australia is no longer on the table for the disposal of riff-raff. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: You know, if we could find a way to the stars, then suddenly, there's plenty of room for anyone who has ever lived, and anyone who wants to live forever. Naah, that just shoves the problem off into the future. See Asimov, The Last Question:

Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-14 Thread John Berry
Here is an interesting thought, if this did work to produce thrust that did not act against the earth, then the earth would be moved in the direction of the device due to attraction to the device (flying car) equal to the weight of the object (it is attracted to the whole mass of the earth, and

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread James Bowery
The reason people are hysterical about death, including religious from the Abrahamic to Transhumanism, is because civilization is dysgenic and in a dysgenic society every death is a loss of Creation. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Craig Haynie

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread David L. Babcock
The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Ol' Bab On 5/14/2015 7:21 AM, Craig Haynie wrote: On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 07:07 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: God forbid this should work.

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The reason people are hysterical about death . . . . . . is the same reason all animals are. It is the instinct of self preservation. Even cockroaches are terrified of death. If they were not, predators would have hunted them to extinction eons ago. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Craig Haynie
On Thu, 2015-05-14 at 13:01 -0500, David L. Babcock wrote: The way to the stars better be an under-$1000 Portal in every village. Spaceships are too frigin expensive to move any but a tiny fraction of our billions. Expensive? That thinking is so... 20th century. :) Cheap energy makes

[Vo]:news for May 14, 2015

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Readers, Things happen, I comment mainly if/when I know and understand them http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/05/lenr-newsnot-earth-wide-as-yesterday.html It happens, Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread James Bowery
Death awareness is different from survival instinct. It is death awareness that allows we humans to make value judgements like the one you made about the structure of scientific revolutions, and act on those values. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
I looked up dysgenic. Well, maybe I did not get it. I think Jed is correct. I think the problem is that I do not think Jed's analysis includes me.:) All others and the theory is perfect. No, if we need a more sophisticated word than selfishness let us try narcissism. Best Regards , Lennart

[Vo]:STEORN news: THE IRISH TIMES - Self-charging battery causes a stir in Dublin pub test

2015-05-14 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Enjoy: http://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/self-charging-battery-causes-a -stir-in-dublin-pub-test-1.2211622 http://tinyurl.com/kcvvcqa Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks

[Vo]:3D metal printing

2015-05-14 Thread a.ashfield
3D metal printing is coming along nicely. A 3D-printed mini jet engine that performs at 33,000 RPM http://www.kurzweilai.net/a-3d-printed-mini-jet-engine-that-performs-at-33000-rpm I like the idea of a micro turbine gen set for the Hot Cat better than the seemingly more popular Stirling

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships

2015-05-14 Thread David L. Babcock
You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals required. Confounding that it's not just peak oil we're at, it's peak nearly everything. Jed would argue, I think, that enough energy combined with engineering and plant materials -renewables- will make feasible cheap

Re: [Vo]:news for May 14, 2015

2015-05-14 Thread Axil Axil
My opinion regarding this statement... “4. Norman D. Cook, Andrea Rossi, «On the Nuclear Mechanisms Underlying the Heat Production by the E-Cat», http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1504/1504.01261.pdf I confess I like how this author thinks!” Analysis of the experimental evidence from Lagano

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth? Portals and ships

2015-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
David L. Babcock olb...@gmail.com wrote: You fail to factor in the enormous sheer tonnage of steel and other metals required. I suppose a star ship would have to be made of stronger materials than steel. Something more like what you make a space elevator out of. Confounding that it's not

[Vo]:Quasar quartet puzzles scientists - Halton Arp rises from the Grave!

2015-05-14 Thread mike fidler
This is a classic example of Halton Arp's concept of how galaxy clusters form - note all 4 are in a strait line - no mention of location of this chain of Quasars - afraid someone might associate it with a closer galaxy! http://www.mpg.de/9229786/quasar-quartet?filter_order=Lresearch_topic=

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People glorify and justify death as a good thing. It infuriates me that people advocate death, and it doesn't matter if it is by old age. We are not talking about keeping people in old age frail, cognitive

Re: [Vo]:WAY OFF TOPIC Innovation in North Korea

2015-05-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: You do not see many innovative new ideas coming out of North Korea. But I must say, they do come up with unexpected ways to kill off top officials. Here is the latest headline from the New York Times: North Korea Said

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: We the death of each individual an irreplaceable world is lost. In particular when we are talking about creative and productive people that could contribute for centuries to the better of mankind. Yeah? What makes you think the creative

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Giovanni Santostasi
And if people minds are kept young and vibrant there is no need for physical death to bring change and progress. On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 10:15 PM, Giovanni Santostasi gsantost...@gmail.com wrote: Jed, Deathism is the sickest mental state of humans at the moment. It is like a spell. People

Re: [Vo]:Dr M McKubre to talk at Lockheed Martin Palo Alto Colloquia on May 21

2015-05-14 Thread Peter Gluck
I can ask Mike what will he tell there but usually he writes his speeches in the last minute to be inspired and up-to-date. So has he done t ICCF-19 too were he made a very good compromise between the old (PdD) and the new, LENR+ You can remark that McKubre tries to be uptodate with the new trend

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
God forbid this should work. The last thing we need is a bunch of old people cluttering up society. Especially in science this would put an end to progress -- which happens funeral by funeral. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Nextgen EM Drive's Potential seems way above the Theoretical Limit

2015-05-14 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 9:06 AM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: Personally, I think it is a bogus premise to assume that Newton’s laws are not being violated when this EM device is speculated to be “hovering” a few feet above the surface of Earth. As Dave

Re: [Vo]:OT fountain of youth?

2015-05-14 Thread Lennart Thornros
Giovanni, I think you said it better than I could. I say it is a little bit of narcissism if you want to see the negative side. However, why would it be true that the bad people would be the one surviving , Jed? I am sure you are wrong and making Huizenga an example smacks of poor judgement. He