In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:43:10 -0800:
An on-board electrolyser can even deliver hydrogen at high pressure,
by using a Pd cathode and driving the hydrogen out the back side of
the cathode. Commercial electrolysers that use this technique save
money and
Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could
just produce
it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do this then the
device is
worthless anyway.
It is
Am 11.09.2011 11:04, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could
just produce
it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do this then
Am 11.09.2011 11:36, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Am 11.09.2011 11:04, schrieb Peter Heckert:
Am 11.09.2011 00:44, schrieb Jed Rothwell:
mix...@bigpond.com mailto:mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They
could just produce
it on demand
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Who said anything about do it yourself? I didn't mean to imply that every
device sold should have an electrolyzer included. What I meant was that the
factory could have a dedicated unit that they used to produce bottled
Hydrogen
for inclusion in the devices.
That
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:05:15 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
That would be fine. Some people have suggested that the units should be sold
with individual electrolyzers, so that they could be loaded with water
instead of hydrogen. That would be a bad idea.
[snip]
I was one of
On Sep 11, 2011, at 2:29 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sun, 11 Sep 2011 12:05:15
-0400:
Hi,
[snip]
That would be fine. Some people have suggested that the units
should be sold
with individual electrolyzers, so that they could be loaded with
water
On 2011-09-08 22:48, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
This is interesting too:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=501cpage=16#comment-70924
Andrea Rossi
September 10th, 2011 at 1:20 PM
WARNING TO ALL OUR READERS:
I AM RECEIVING THOUSANDS OF REQUESTS OF INVITATION TO VISIT OUR PLANT. FOR
Thanks for posting this.
harry
- Original Message -
From: Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Cc:
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 2:30:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes
On 2011-09-08 22:48, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
This is interesting too
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 09 Sep 2011 17:07:55 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Peter Gluck wrote:
But Xanthi Press wrote no testing by State authorities no
plant. Confusing.
The Sept. 1 report said they do not have a license for the plant yet.
Defkalion confirmed they are still working on
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could just
produce
it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do this then the device is
worthless anyway.
It is a bad idea to produce hydrogen on demand with electrolysis. That adds
to the complexity
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:44:06 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
I don't see why they would need to store any Hydrogen. They could just
produce
it on demand through electrolysis. If they can't do this then the device is
worthless anyway.
It is a
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Over the long haul, it's going to need to come from electrolysis anyway.
That's
where most of our hydrogen is. It doesn't need to cause explosions if done
correctly.
Of course. Over the short-haul too. But it should be done at specialized
facilities by experienced
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Sat, 10 Sep 2011 19:24:14 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
Over the long haul, it's going to need to come from electrolysis anyway.
That's
where most of our hydrogen is. It doesn't need to cause explosions if done
correctly.
Of course. Over
This further supports the position that oxide layers must be eliminated before
hydrogen can access the ultra catalytic geometry.
Fran
From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 12:18 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes
I
Kullander and Essen reported, that the reactor was not flushed.
http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3144960.ece/BINARY/Download+the+report+by+Kullander+and+Ess%C3%A9n+%28pdf%29.
Page 2 , Startup:
The air of atmospheric pressure was remaining in the container as a
small impurity.
Am
On 2011-09-08 22:48, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
New interesting quote!
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=7#comment-70372
Piers D
September 9th, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Dear Mr Rossi,
I would like to congratulate all your team who have worked on bringing cold
fusion from the lab to
How could they know that it was air in the reactor? I
If it was how can 50 cc air be transforrned in a small
impurity? Why does noiw Rossi say he is flushing too?
Lack of reliable, serious data. Or the additive (not catalyst)
can be molecular sieves?
Kullander and Essen could know, in case they
to be satisfied. so if something
serves the purpose of extending the lifespan of said geometry it should be
considered a catalytic amplifier.
Regards
Fran
From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 2:25 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi
Fran
** **
*From:* Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 09, 2011 2:25 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Rossi quotes
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How could they know that it was air in the reactor? I
If it was how can 50 cc air
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
really interesting but unverifiable now. Otherwise it is a temporary
saison morte in the Rossi camp, nothing happens. Dekalion seems to be dead
and unressurectable . . .
I doubt that. As far as I know Defkalion intends to continue with their
plans to
I hope so too but I have not a iota of proof for that, except wishful
thinking and sympathy for them.
Do you have more?
Peter
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
really interesting but unverifiable now. Otherwise
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope so too but I have not a iota of proof for that, except wishful
thinking and sympathy for them.
Do you have more?
I have had some contact with the company. They tell me everything is going
forward as planned. That isn't proof of anything, but I
But Xanthi Press wrote no testing by State authorities no
plant. Confusing.
The website is frozen.
Peter
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
I hope so too but I have not a iota of proof for that, except wishful
Am 09.09.2011 20:24, schrieb Peter Gluck:
How could they know that it was air in the reactor? I
Dont know. You must ask them. Maybe it was open and exposed to air long
before, or they asked Rossi.
If it was how can 50 cc air be transforrned in a small
impurity?
At 20 bar pressure 50 cc
Am 09.09.2011 22:28, schrieb Peter Gluck:
Thanks for the answers.
We have to use statistics to draw false conclusions from true/real
data but nothing can help in order to draw good conclusions from false
or imaginary data. If they are contradictory even worse.
There is one constant data. Rossi
Peter Gluck wrote:
But Xanthi Press wrote no testing by State authorities no
plant. Confusing.
The Sept. 1 report said they do not have a license for the plant yet.
Defkalion confirmed they are still working on that. I do not think the
report said there has been no testing.
There is also
If the theory that Rossi uses one of the Mills catalysts as his secret
sauce: i.e. lithium and/or potassium, air contamination would form a
nitride. This catalyst would act as a getter of nitrogen, the primary
constituent of air being around 80% of its volume.
More generally, I believe that the
Inquiring minds want to know... What does Defkalilon's have on hand?
Do they possess the equivalent of Rossi's eCat technology in-house, or
not. Speculation runs rampant. It's only fitting that I proceed with
some finely tuned oration of my own. Without further adieu:
I'm willing to speculate
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote:
Inquiring minds want to know... What does Defkalilon's have on hand?
Do they possess the equivalent of Rossi's eCat technology in-house, or
not.
They say they do. See their web site, their statements at PESN, and the
press
Alan: Thanks again for monitoring Rossi's blog.
- Jed
Jed sez:
Alan: Thanks again for monitoring Rossi's blog.
It's a dirty job and Alan is the right man to do it.
I ditto Jed's sentiments.
Thanks, Alan.
Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
I have found this as interesting too, because Rossi has
repeatedly suggested that his system can tolerate air in contact with the
core material:
- Andrea Rossi
September 4th, 2011 at 3:17
PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=6#comment-68499
Dear Alan De Angelis:
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