On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Peter Gluck wrote:
Dear Horace,
The missing variable is cooling water flow- to be established by
Rossi- water that carries the excess heat generated by the 52 (?)
Fat Cats and is partially transformed in steam- F1.
To achieve accuracy in delta T measuring
When I say precise method I mean the inclusion of the specific
data to be obtained, where it is obtained, and the formulas applied.
You wrote: Indeed, continuous experiments easiest way is to use
enthalpy sensors, that gives as total enthalpy for any given moment.
Even more simple is to
The simplest solution is to use a *Steam Water mixing* *valve*,in which the
heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant flow of
cold water, you can know the enthalpy performance in any moment.
Peter
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.netwrote:
2011/9/27 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com:
The simplest solution is to use a Steam Water mixing valve,in which the
heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant flow of
cold water, you can know the enthalpy performance in any moment.
Indeed, continuous experiments easiest
It might be nice to know the metal mass and temps as well.
- Original Message -
From: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net
To: Vortex-L vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 12:41 PM
Subject: [Vo]:Inexpensive steam/water calorimeter
A simple inexpensive continuously
Dear Jouni,
I have described this method long ago, for individual e-Cats
e.g. here:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2011/05/call-for-perfect-e-cat-experiment.html
See please: http://www.onlineconversion.com/mixing_water.htm
I have asked Rossii to use this method but he has ignored it
with
On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Peter Gluck wrote:
Dear Jouni,
I have described this method long ago, for individual e-Cats
A key part of this idea is the reliability obtained by the averaging
performed by the large thermal mass of the water container. I am
suggesting a hybrid design, a
On Sep 27, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
2011/9/27 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com:
The simplest solution is to use a Steam Water mixing valve,in
which the
heated mixture coming out from the demo is mixed with a constant
flow of
cold water, you can know the enthalpy
First I would add to my previous message, that I think that Peter's method
is more accurate than measuring pressure. That is because in order to find
out correlation between pressure and enthalpy we need to do very careful
calibration. In short run high accuracy may be difficult to archieve, but
Dear Horace,
The missing variable is cooling water flow- to be established by Rossi-
water that carries the excess heat generated by the 52 (?) Fat Cats and is
partially transformed in steam- F1.
The flow of mixing water- condensing the steam is say, 5-10 times greater
than F1 see please the
We have to measure HEAT OUT (enthalpy) and this is the unique relevant
variable, steam, water, pressure, dryness, even F1 (this HAS to be measured
anyway) are not relevant.
When I speak about steam water mixing it is because I have used the method
many times many years ago.
But I bet that Rossi
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