Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-09 Thread Mauro Lacy
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:13:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Monday, June 07, 2010 6:51 PM While two particles might share a common value for specific coordinate in a higher dimension, that doesn't mean that they are in

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-09 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 06/08/2010 11:08 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The QM problem here is that a wave function is NOT a physical reality. It is a mathematical equation which we use to *describe* the state of a system *to the best of our knowledge at the time*. When we make a real observation of the real

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-09 Thread Mauro Lacy
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:13:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Monday, June 07, 2010 6:51 PM While two particles might share a common value for specific coordinate in a higher dimension, that doesn't mean that they are

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-09 Thread John Berry
Ok, I read the wired article only, are they claiming that the photon can be copied without collapsing the wave function yet produce non-entangled copies? Probably not, but if so then that could be used to cheat and actually read the copies without collapsing the wave function. That is of course

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:21:12 -0400: Hi, Maybe polarizers do more than measure? Perhaps they actually change the polarization angle? e.g. if the electric field is more vertical than horizontal, then it gets forced completely vertical, if more horizontal

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread Abd ul-Rahman Lomax
At 08:16 PM 6/7/2010, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 06/07/2010 07:29 PM, mailto:mix...@bigpond.commix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:31:49 -0400: Hi, I think the whole notion of quantum entanglement is nonsense. When two *correlated* particles are

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread Mauro Lacy
At 08:16 PM 6/7/2010, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 06/07/2010 07:29 PM, mailto:mix...@bigpond.commix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:31:49 -0400: Hi, I think the whole notion of quantum entanglement is nonsense. When two *correlated* particles are

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Here's Wired's article on the subject: http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/06/human-quantum-entanglement-detector/ T

RE: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Monday, June 07, 2010 6:29 PM I think the whole notion of quantum entanglement is nonsense. When two *correlated* particles are produced, they are like mirror images of one another. That means that the subsequent response of

RE: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread Roarty, Francis X
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Monday, June 07, 2010 6:51 PM While two particles might share a common value for specific coordinate in a higher dimension, that doesn't mean that they are in any way adjacent as in close together. In any *orthogonal* multidimensional system, the

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Tue, 08 Jun 2010 16:13:44 -0400: Hi, [snip] In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Monday, June 07, 2010 6:51 PM While two particles might share a common value for specific coordinate in a higher dimension, that doesn't mean that they are in any

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:16:27 -0300: Hi, [snip] As far as I know, quantum entanglement is different, because it's possible not only to observe but also to *change* the status of one of the particles, and the other will immediately reflect the opposite change. It's

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread Mauro Lacy
A New article : Spooky Eyes: Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=human-eyes-entanglement Could this be a threat to the communication industry? Like big oil opposition to free energy the thought of free communication must be

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread Mauro Lacy
A New article : Spooky Eyes: Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=human-eyes-entanglement Could this be a threat to the communication industry? Like big oil opposition to free energy the thought of free communication must be

RE: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Mauro Lacy FR: A question that I just have to ask is could the entangled particles remain adjacent in other dimensions while being displaced spatially? ML: That's a very good question. A semi-reflection on a higher dimensional plane(or volumetric cross

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread Roarty, Francis X
ON Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:37 Mauro Lacy said If for adjacent you mean that at least one of the coordinate values that define the position of the particles in a given higher dimensional manifold are the same for both particles, the answer is yes. I suppose that could be named dimensional adjacency,

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:31:49 -0400: Hi, I think the whole notion of quantum entanglement is nonsense. When two *correlated* particles are produced, they are like mirror images of one another. That means that the subsequent response of one is *correlated*

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:41:55 -0400: Hi, [snip] ON Mon, 07 Jun 2010 06:37 Mauro Lacy said If for adjacent you mean that at least one of the coordinate values that define the position of the particles in a given higher dimensional manifold are the same for

Re: [Vo]:Using Human Volunteers to Witness Quantum Entanglement

2010-06-07 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 06/07/2010 07:29 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Roarty, Francis X's message of Mon, 07 Jun 2010 08:31:49 -0400: Hi, I think the whole notion of quantum entanglement is nonsense. When two *correlated* particles are produced, they are like mirror images of one another. That