Re: broadband in the home network
On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 19:48, James Anderson wrote: hi, a question for those who have some understanding of networks we have a small home network and are considering broadband with iinet since it is actually cheaper per month when you take into account the dedicated fax/modem line rental and call charges etc. Funny isn't it. Please note that you will require at least one line rental, since the line still needs to come to your house. only catch is it seems we willl have to fork out $439 for a router modem, if we want to let all 3 computers in the house use the net at once. Read on... we have a four port hub, couldn't we just plug one of the cheaper ($249 !!!) modems into one of the hub spots? and then set up our tcp/ip connections appropriately. I'm trying to remember, but I think this is possible, however, *all* your computers on the local network will be exposed to the full force of the Internet, and *I'm guessing*, you'll need to have an IP number for each machine. And one needs to be on all the time to provide the connection, since I recall that iiNet no longer supplies a connection without PPPoE. However, I'm sure that you can get a 4 port ADSL modem from iiNet, the Alcatel SpeedTouch Pro has a hub built in. (As opposed to the SpeedTouch Home, which just has a line and an ethernet connector.) or could we make it so the modem connects to one computer and the net connection is passed on by software such as IPNetshare / IPNetRouter as it currently does with dial up internet. The problem I see with this is that the ethernet port is taken up by the ADSL modem, so is there any way through the network or double adapters of some sort we could do this? Yes you could. You could put two network cards in your connection computer. Then set the machine up as a gateway. It would then also act as a firewall. If your machine is a MacOS X box or a Linux box, then this should be relatively simple to setup. If not, then the multi-port modem is a better option in my opinion. Please also note that when you switch off the connection computer, all Internet connectivity goes away. With the multi-port modem, this is not the case - much simpler. preferably in a way which is cheaper than buying a router modem. Please be aware that your statement cheaper than buying a router modem is misleading at best, since the costs you incur by physically purchasing the multi-port modem will quickly be overtaken by the hidden costs associated with configuring any other solution. Your experience will likely be better, the internet connection simpler to understand for the members of your family, and easier to fix when its broken. Just becasue the box says it's more expensive (eg. there is a price tag attached), doesn't mean it is in the long run. Get the members of your family to save for your connection - you'll find it worth the effort in my opinion. -- ()/)/)() ..ASCII for Onno.. |? ..EBCDIC for Onno.. --- -. -. --- ..Morse for Onno.. ITmaze - ABN: 56 178 057 063 - ph: 04 1219 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IE 5.2 For Mac OS X
On Tuesday, June 18, 2002, at 03:08 AM, Daniel wrote: It's about 7.2MB in size. Things to note:- It changes your home page to www.msn.com It handles Quartz text smoothing. Apart from that I can't see a big improvement. Seems to work alright though,... Well maybe it's just me, but it seems a lot faster all of a sudden. Pages are rendering incredibly quickly at the moment. Or maybe my cable connection is just in a good mood right now... -- Peter Hinchliffe Apwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482 Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Lap top Insurance
Anyone got any suggestions as to insurance for a laptop, besides the ol' RAC insurance??
FW: Optical mouse
-- From: Jon Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 21:18:15 +0800 To: WAMUG Subject: FW: Optical mouse Thanks Steven, I guess it is that, but as I mentioned I have been using it with no problems for 18 months on the laminated surface and only now is it spitting the dummy. So my query is why should it do it now after all this time. Visibly, the surface has not changed..so what else is there? Thanks Jon -- From: Steven Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 18:41:25 +0800 To: WAMUG wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Optical mouse Hi, I suspects it's the laminated surface of your computer desk that might cause some problems. I have two optical mice and I know that you can't use it on a glass surface, reflective surface or a mouse pad with many different colours on it. (And I actually have tested on all surfaces as mentioned before) I hope this helps solve the puzzle. Steven Tan From: Jon Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 10:38:35 +0800 To: WA Mac Users Group wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Optical mouse Has anyone had this odd mouse side effect occur? I use a laminated computer desk, the normal grey topped variety. Since I have had my optical mouse, 18 months or so, it has worked fine on this surface. It has now decided this surface is not worthy, and over about 4 seconds it slows until it stops dead. But wonder-of-wonders, I place a sheet of paper beneath it and off it goes again as if nothing is wrong. In fact it works on most other surfaces. Remove the paper and zippo, it croaks. The mouse is clean, work surface is clean, no dust. A second non-optical mouse works fine on the work surface. So what on earth is this? Is there some inherent glitch with these mice (mouse's?) or is there an altogether more sinister element at work? Do these mice emit some form of energy that de-sensitizes these normal grey work surfaces? sounds odd I know, but there is something at work here. Thoughts anyone? Cheers for now Jon -- Jon Davison Visual Consultant Travel photography worldwide Air-to-air photography Graphic design book packaging Digital Illustration Digital image creation Website interface design QuickTime Virtual Reality panoramas 40+ books photographed and/or packaged for Berlitz, Insight, AA, Fodors, Globetrotters. Travel collection represented by Lonely Planet Images Phone: + 61 8 9380 6508 Mobile: 0403 235 938 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my website at; http://www.eyeinthesky.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.html Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.html Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.html Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.html Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FS: PB, Desktop, modem etc
I have a number of Mac items for sale. 1. Performer 5400 120MHz 80MB 1.58GB CD-ROM Floppy Ethernet OS9.1(with CD) + Color Stylewriter 2500 + US Robotics 56k Faxmodem $400 as a complete system (the extra RAM module is only a year old) 2. Powerbook 1400cs 117MHz 16MB 775MB Floppy BRAND NEW BATTERY OS 8.1 $400 3. Macsense 10Mbps PCMCIA Ethernet card $60 (hardly used, still in the box) 4. SwannSmart Macsurfer 56Kv.90 Faxmodem $60 (hardly used, still in the box) I can be contacted at the above e-mail or on the following phone numbers 92919808 (home) 92664229 (work) 0403779808 (mobile) Peter McGrath
Re: Lap top Insurance
Anyone got any suggestions as to insurance for a laptop, besides the ol' RAC insurance?? http://www.sgua.com.au/ Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer It must be bunnies! Opinions for hire [POQ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord
Mac Article Canberra Times 17/6/02...
Thought some WAMUGgers may like to see this article: (from Canberra Times, Monday June 17, 2002) Macs cheaper Here's a bit of cheer for the Apple Macintosh fans. Macs -- far from being more expensive than Windows PCs, as is popularly believed -- are cheaper to buy and run, according to an Australian survey by respected market research company Gartner. The study was conducted at Melbourne University's Arts Faculty, which has 4676 Macs and 5338 Windows PCs. It compared direct costs such as hardware and software, peripheral devices, upgrades, service, support and depreciation. It also looked at the indirect costs of supporting end users, training time and unproductive downtime. The bottom line, according to Gartner: technical support for a Windows PC costs an outfit like Melbourne Uni an average $2522 a year, for a Mac -- because the machine is easier to use and less crash-prone -- the cost is only $1953 a year. Basic hardware and software costs were actually lower for the Mac also, Gartner said. Phil -- IMPORTANT: The contents of this email transmission are confidential and may be protected by professional privilege. The contents are only intended for the named recipient/s of this email. If you have received this message in error please notify us immediately and destroy the original. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: IE 5.2 For Mac OS X
I have downloaded and installed it - speed seems to have increased and launch time is significantly improved on my TiBook 550. The text smoothing is very easy on the eye. All in all a nice little update. Cheers Greg on 18/6/02 3:08 AM, Daniel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all For those interested Microsoft have released Internet Explorer 5.2 for Mac OS X. The direct link to download from is:- http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp It's about 7.2MB in size. Things to note:- It changes your home page to www.msn.com It handles Quartz text smoothing. Apart from that I can't see a big improvement. Seems to work alright though,... well enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel Kerr
Broadband
I have just attempted to sign up with iinet for ADSL, but have been informed that Macintosh computers are not compatible with their system. Pity, it was a very good deal. Kevin Lock Bicton
Re: Broadband
Hi Kevin, I have just attempted to sign up with iinet for ADSL, but have been informed that Macintosh computers are not compatible with their system. Pity, it was a very good deal. I signed up with iinet ADSL a couple of months ago and have had no problems with a home network with a DPG4 running OSX and an iMac running 9.2.2. I am using a D-link router and a D-link ADSL modem. Go back to them and ask them to check their facts. Cheers, Andrew
Re: Broadband
Nup, they're wrong I have a regular client who is on iiNet ADSL with a beige G3. However, before you sign up with iiNet, check out the ADSL choices for Perth at: http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au There's a deal with EON that's 512/128 with 7 gig a month for $99. Primus is a better deal than either iiNet or Telstra as well. Rgds, Phil I have just attempted to sign up with iinet for ADSL, but have been informed that Macintosh computers are not compatible with their system. Pity, it was a very good deal. Kevin Lock Bicton -- -- Sent from the Apple PowerBook G4 of: Phillip McGree Web: http://www.phil.net.au Perth, Western Australiahttp://chat.iinet.net.au Mobile Phone: 0418 922 500 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Macs for sale - new and secondhand http://mac.iinet.net.au
Re: Broadband
Phillip McGree wrote: Nup, they're wrong I have a regular client who is on iiNet ADSL with a beige G3. Completely wrong. Mixed OS X/ OS 9/ OS 8.6/Debian/Airport network here with no issues. However, before you sign up with iiNet, check out the ADSL choices for Perth at: http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au There's a deal with EON that's 512/128 with 7 gig a month for $99. Primus is a better deal than either iiNet or Telstra as well. Iinet's 512/128 offering is now 3 gig a month at full speed and as much as you like after that slowed to 56K, for $79.95, with cheaper deals available - 2G for $69.95, 1G for $59.95, 300M for $49.95. No excess traffic charges any more on the Home accounts, just shaping after your limit is reached. -- Lara Hopkins
Printer
i have a notebook 1400cs with a color stylewriter 2400 printer attached these are both stand alone we use a windows based network and i can't transfer the printer drivers i have downloaded off the apple site from my pc to the mac notebook as they are in *.bin format and i think they need to be in *.sea format. Can you help me?
Could this be a virus?
I received the below email message, which concerns me a little that perhaps my Mac is sending out messages as a result of a virus infection?? Does it look familiar to anyone? I haven't replied to 'John Murray' yet just in case it's not an authentic complaint/request. Any thoughts?? TIASteven -- From: John Murray [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 09:15:29 +0100 To: emailus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Of Service Please stop sendind this to me - Original Message - From: emailus mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 6:38 PM Subject: Of Service [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: iinet Broadband
The problem with iinet and why some of their techs say their ADSL won't work is simply because their staff are incompetant at supporting mac on ADSL/don't want to bother supporting them. I rang them regarding setting up ADSL (my ADSL only came with Windoze instructions) and they said sorry, can't help you. Macintosh isn't supported for ADSL. I did end up getting it working; their tech support was just non existent( it was hard enough even getting them to verify the settings I needed!) However, since they *currently* use static Ips and not PPPoE, setting up actually was very painless once you worked out what goes where! Dave PS. Iinet just released some brand spanking new ADSL plans that have some nice touches (apparently unlimited download between 12am-7am!). They are actually shaping up to be some of the best deals in Australia.
Western Power ISP?
Did I hear correct? Are Western Power rolling out super cable in suburbs south of the river? According to 7 news this evening, happy residents can expect speeds 150 times faster than a normal modem connection. Did someone forget to carry the one, perhaps. :/ Cheerio, Matt. Matt Huitson Dept. of Psychology University of Western Australia Nedlands, WA 6097 Western Australia work: 61 89 380 3639 mob: 0414 294 770 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Broadband
on 18/6/02 15:19, Phillip McGree at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nup, they're wrong I have a regular client who is on iiNet ADSL with a beige G3. However, before you sign up with iiNet, check out the ADSL choices for Perth at: http://www.broadbandchoice.com.au There's a deal with EON that's 512/128 with 7 gig a month for $99. Primus is a better deal than either iiNet or Telstra as well. Rgds, Phil With the newly revised plans I doubt anything will be better then the iiNet plans for a normal home user that can figure out how to que their downloads. All downloads between midnight and 7am are free. They do not count toward your 3 gig limit. I see nothing better anywhere right now. As for the topic of the post iiNet are lying to you. The included D-Link DSL 300 has a built in authentication program. You don't even need to run an authentication client on the computer it's hooked up to. -- The more you complain the longer God lets you live.
