FW: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
--- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:22:07 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanner for Mac? Hi Steven My personal preference for colour inkjet is Epson then Canon Have lots of clients with them and they work extremely well. (I've got an Epson Tx810FW at home). Marlene - if only doing black and white printing may be better to consider Laser. Cheaper running costs long term. Brother have a great range that just work and just last. Can't find the wamug archive link direct to it but have mentioned more details previously in archives from me, Ronni and others. (just on road so bit hard to get to it). But they would be more recommendations based on what I've sold and worked with over the last 9+ years. Kind regards Daniel (who hopes this gets delivered due to vodafone iPhone issues). Sent from my iPhone --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au Web:http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For Everything Macintosh** On 21/10/2010, at 10:08 AM, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi Steven I'm glad you asked your dumb question as I too have been looking at the shops recently with a view to purchasing a Multi-function printer - so I am looking at the responses you get. There is just such a huge range out there and it is so hard to decide what is right. All the retail experts have a different view! - and not many know what works well with Macs. I want my printer mainly for black and white text printing for home use - (photo prints I do at Harvey Norman). I also want to scan and copy. Don't need the fax. I will use usb connection. The main concern is best value for ink useage and the recommendations seem to be - go for a middle range (better value ink cartridges). I know laser printers are better value re ink - but the footprint is too large for my desk - so inkjet is the way I will go. I'm considering a Canon Pixma MP560 - but would love some personal recommendations from WAMUG users. Office Works have some good deals now, and JB Hi-Fi are offering 50% off ink (limit of 3) with a printer purchase. Good hunting, Steven! Regards Marlene On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- End of Forwarded Message -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi Steven I had an HP for about 2 years and gave trouble since day 1 Have just changed to an Epson TX710W and it works like a charm Paid $188 at Office Works Cartridges of course cost almost as much for a full set Graeme On 20/10/2010, at 2:04 PM, Stephen Chape wrote: I got a Canon MX340 about 3 months ago from the new Apple Centre in Perth. Cost around $220 and I have had no problems at all with printing, copying and scanning ! I had 2 HP's prior to that and scanning with the Mac was a pain in the butt !!! On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au iMac 27 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 4GB 1067MHz RAM / 1TB Running OS X v 10.6.4 Windows XP for MYOB -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi Steven Yeh, I think you're right on the most offensive! (And glad you didn't take it as a dig. It's always sometimes hard to get gestures across on email, so I always try make sure things don't get taken the wrong way) :o)) (smiley faces are always a good safe bet) Makes you wonder who's making the money on the cartridges though, as I can definitely say as a cartridge supplier, there really is not that much margin in them! I suppose by the time everyone add's their little cut, it all adds up. But yes, I'd much rather pay a bit more for my printer (knowing that it lasts longer) and pay less for the cartridges. Glad you like the Epson range. I've always been happy with them. Hence why I have no problems ever recommending them. But yes, thy don't do an A3 unfortunately. They used to also do laser printers and they got out of that too. (Which is a shame as my Epson Colour C1100N has just chugged away for years! And barely eats toners at all!) I love it. I dread the day something goes wrong with it,touch wood. Brother do a nice A3 colour multifunction printer though. That may be worth a look too ;) Just to add more to the pile,..lol ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 8:58 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I don't disagree with you Daniel, and I definitely don't take it as a dig. Printers and printer consumables must be right up there in terms of the world's offensive on the environment. Hey, maybe we can lobby the government ... legislate for no more home printers! Publicly accessible printers only, wireless connectivity makes it possible. Collect your hardcopy from any nearby printer after putting in your PIN code. System charges your Paypal, periodically, based on usage. Printers can be housed in weather-proof cubicles, onboard web cams dissuading passing hoons from putting the boot in ... might be a good use for all those public telephone boxes which don't get used anymore (do they even exist? Can't say I know where a public telephone is anymore). I'd post my letter to Ms Gillard right now, except I don't have my printer yet. I did find some time to take a peek at the Epson products online by the way. They look good, but couldn't see any multifunctions with anything bigger than an A4 flatbed, which has evolved into a must-have for me. Marlene, only good reports about Epson if A4 flatbeds are good for you. Steven On 21/10/2010, at 10:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Steven Without starting a flame war, and please realise I'm not making a dig at you, or anyone else for that matter,... But this first thing always bothers me with these printers. The amount of good waste that we all go through with new printers that are still good, but it's cheaper to buy a whole printer then cartridges. What it must be doing to our landfill and environment. It's unfortunate. And although we can't really lay blame. As consumer's we're always look for something cheaper, and so the manufacturer make something cheaper (then get us on the cartridges). It's the chicken and egg situation. Do we blame them for making cheaper printer, or do they blame us for asking for cheap. I do remember not that long ago when I worked for RandomAccess (ok, yes that would be nearly 10 years,..omg that long!) when printers were in factor dearer and cartridges were cheaper. That didn't take long to change. And we see it happen with a lot of things these days. Quality used to be better and last longer. Now nearly everything is a throw away society. But I digress I try and keep my printers as long as possible and get the most out of them. Or pass them off to family or friends that don't have a printer (or when dies). I look at it that way, that at least I'm doing something. ;o) But yes,..it does make it very hard they way printers and cartridges work now. Again, not trying to point fingers,..just wanted to mention my view on it ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 7:19 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I like your suggestion David. Sounds sensible to me ... my understanding is that the manufacturers often lose, maybe break even, on the printer itself in cunning anticipation of making fat margins on consumables thereafter. Your move puts a bullet in that plan! :-) Daniel, after your Epson recommendation I'd probably take a closer look at Epson, but I'm all out of steam looking at printers - head is spinning. Too much choice. Marlene, I've had a mind change after taking a look at printers in a couple of stores today. I've moved from Canon to HP. I came across an HP Officejet Pro 8500, and when lifting the lid noticed that the flatbed looked larger than the others. It is. The 8500 has a flatbed scanning size which accommodates foolscap (legal) size paper. For me, that can be pretty handy at times. I couldn't find any Canon's on display which went beyond the usual A4 size flatbed. Bear in mind though that even if the flatbed
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi All Many thanks for all the recommendations - but - I have been out looking again this afternoon and came across a Canon MP560 for a really good price at Dick Smith - $ 129! The same machine was $229 at the Apple shop, $197 at JB Hi-Fi and the Good Guys, and $168 at Office Works. It really pays to shop around for the best deal. There is a shop here in Freo that has great prices for genuine ink cartridges so I hope I am set for the next few years. I want to scan and copy so a mono-printer will not suit, and a laser printer is too large for my small desk - so - I hope I have made the right choice. I have used Canon printers for 15 years with PC's without any problems at all - so hope the new Canon and Mac will work equally as well. Regards Marlene On 21/10/2010, at 5:15 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:22:07 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanner for Mac? Hi Steven My personal preference for colour inkjet is Epson then Canon Have lots of clients with them and they work extremely well. (I've got an Epson Tx810FW at home). Marlene - if only doing black and white printing may be better to consider Laser. Cheaper running costs long term. Brother have a great range that just work and just last. Can't find the wamug archive link direct to it but have mentioned more details previously in archives from me, Ronni and others. (just on road so bit hard to get to it). But they would be more recommendations based on what I've sold and worked with over the last 9+ years. Kind regards Daniel (who hopes this gets delivered due to vodafone iPhone issues). Sent from my iPhone --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au Web:http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For Everything Macintosh** On 21/10/2010, at 10:08 AM, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi Steven I'm glad you asked your dumb question as I too have been looking at the shops recently with a view to purchasing a Multi-function printer - so I am looking at the responses you get. There is just such a huge range out there and it is so hard to decide what is right. All the retail experts have a different view! - and not many know what works well with Macs. I want my printer mainly for black and white text printing for home use - (photo prints I do at Harvey Norman). I also want to scan and copy. Don't need the fax. I will use usb connection. The main concern is best value for ink useage and the recommendations seem to be - go for a middle range (better value ink cartridges). I know laser printers are better value re ink - but the footprint is too large for my desk - so inkjet is the way I will go. I'm considering a Canon Pixma MP560 - but would love some personal recommendations from WAMUG users. Office Works have some good deals now, and JB Hi-Fi are offering 50% off ink (limit of 3) with a printer purchase. Good hunting, Steven! Regards Marlene On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- End of Forwarded Message -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
The opinion of one salesman about Brother was that they're not bad for laser printers, but they fall short on inkjet. But yep, Brother worth a look if you need A3, and according to the same sales guy, no prob with Mac compatibility. To clarify for others though, the HPs I mentioned (8500 and 8500A) accommodated 'legal size' paper for flatbed scanning. Not A3. I think you need to move up to higher end commercial stuff for A3. A4 = 210 × 297mm Foolscap = 210 × 330mm Legal (USA) = 216 × 356mm A3 = 297 × 420mm Cheers, Steven On 21/10/2010, at 11:10 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Steven Yeh, I think you're right on the most offensive! (And glad you didn't take it as a dig. It's always sometimes hard to get gestures across on email, so I always try make sure things don't get taken the wrong way) :o)) (smiley faces are always a good safe bet) Makes you wonder who's making the money on the cartridges though, as I can definitely say as a cartridge supplier, there really is not that much margin in them! I suppose by the time everyone add's their little cut, it all adds up. But yes, I'd much rather pay a bit more for my printer (knowing that it lasts longer) and pay less for the cartridges. Glad you like the Epson range. I've always been happy with them. Hence why I have no problems ever recommending them. But yes, thy don't do an A3 unfortunately. They used to also do laser printers and they got out of that too. (Which is a shame as my Epson Colour C1100N has just chugged away for years! And barely eats toners at all!) I love it. I dread the day something goes wrong with it,touch wood. Brother do a nice A3 colour multifunction printer though. That may be worth a look too ;) Just to add more to the pile,..lol ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 8:58 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I don't disagree with you Daniel, and I definitely don't take it as a dig. Printers and printer consumables must be right up there in terms of the world's offensive on the environment. Hey, maybe we can lobby the government ... legislate for no more home printers! Publicly accessible printers only, wireless connectivity makes it possible. Collect your hardcopy from any nearby printer after putting in your PIN code. System charges your Paypal, periodically, based on usage. Printers can be housed in weather-proof cubicles, onboard web cams dissuading passing hoons from putting the boot in ... might be a good use for all those public telephone boxes which don't get used anymore (do they even exist? Can't say I know where a public telephone is anymore). I'd post my letter to Ms Gillard right now, except I don't have my printer yet. I did find some time to take a peek at the Epson products online by the way. They look good, but couldn't see any multifunctions with anything bigger than an A4 flatbed, which has evolved into a must-have for me. Marlene, only good reports about Epson if A4 flatbeds are good for you. Steven On 21/10/2010, at 10:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Steven Without starting a flame war, and please realise I'm not making a dig at you, or anyone else for that matter,... But this first thing always bothers me with these printers. The amount of good waste that we all go through with new printers that are still good, but it's cheaper to buy a whole printer then cartridges. What it must be doing to our landfill and environment. It's unfortunate. And although we can't really lay blame. As consumer's we're always look for something cheaper, and so the manufacturer make something cheaper (then get us on the cartridges). It's the chicken and egg situation. Do we blame them for making cheaper printer, or do they blame us for asking for cheap. I do remember not that long ago when I worked for RandomAccess (ok, yes that would be nearly 10 years,..omg that long!) when printers were in factor dearer and cartridges were cheaper. That didn't take long to change. And we see it happen with a lot of things these days. Quality used to be better and last longer. Now nearly everything is a throw away society. But I digress I try and keep my printers as long as possible and get the most out of them. Or pass them off to family or friends that don't have a printer (or when dies). I look at it that way, that at least I'm doing something. ;o) But yes,..it does make it very hard they way printers and cartridges work now. Again, not trying to point fingers,..just wanted to mention my view on it ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 7:19 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I like your suggestion David. Sounds sensible to me ... my understanding is that the manufacturers often lose, maybe break even, on the printer itself in cunning anticipation of making fat margins on consumables thereafter. Your move puts a bullet in that plan! :-) Daniel, after your Epson recommendation I'd probably take a closer
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Weird. I sold a client a colour inkjet A3 printer/scanner (the MFC-6890CDW) and they love it. And it works really really well. Wasn't terribly expensive for an A3 unit, with an RRP of $579 (I did it cheaper then that though). But yeh, the use it all the time and are very happy with it. Still, always different opinions for everything. That's what makes it that much harder when looking around! :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 10:28 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: The opinion of one salesman about Brother was that they're not bad for laser printers, but they fall short on inkjet. But yep, Brother worth a look if you need A3, and according to the same sales guy, no prob with Mac compatibility. To clarify for others though, the HPs I mentioned (8500 and 8500A) accommodated 'legal size' paper for flatbed scanning. Not A3. I think you need to move up to higher end commercial stuff for A3. A4 = 210 × 297mm Foolscap = 210 × 330mm Legal (USA) = 216 × 356mm A3 = 297 × 420mm Cheers, Steven On 21/10/2010, at 11:10 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Steven Yeh, I think you're right on the most offensive! (And glad you didn't take it as a dig. It's always sometimes hard to get gestures across on email, so I always try make sure things don't get taken the wrong way) :o)) (smiley faces are always a good safe bet) Makes you wonder who's making the money on the cartridges though, as I can definitely say as a cartridge supplier, there really is not that much margin in them! I suppose by the time everyone add's their little cut, it all adds up. But yes, I'd much rather pay a bit more for my printer (knowing that it lasts longer) and pay less for the cartridges. Glad you like the Epson range. I've always been happy with them. Hence why I have no problems ever recommending them. But yes, thy don't do an A3 unfortunately. They used to also do laser printers and they got out of that too. (Which is a shame as my Epson Colour C1100N has just chugged away for years! And barely eats toners at all!) I love it. I dread the day something goes wrong with it,touch wood. Brother do a nice A3 colour multifunction printer though. That may be worth a look too ;) Just to add more to the pile,..lol ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 8:58 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I don't disagree with you Daniel, and I definitely don't take it as a dig. Printers and printer consumables must be right up there in terms of the world's offensive on the environment. Hey, maybe we can lobby the government ... legislate for no more home printers! Publicly accessible printers only, wireless connectivity makes it possible. Collect your hardcopy from any nearby printer after putting in your PIN code. System charges your Paypal, periodically, based on usage. Printers can be housed in weather-proof cubicles, onboard web cams dissuading passing hoons from putting the boot in ... might be a good use for all those public telephone boxes which don't get used anymore (do they even exist? Can't say I know where a public telephone is anymore). I'd post my letter to Ms Gillard right now, except I don't have my printer yet. I did find some time to take a peek at the Epson products online by the way. They look good, but couldn't see any multifunctions with anything bigger than an A4 flatbed, which has evolved into a must-have for me. Marlene, only good reports about Epson if A4 flatbeds are good for you. Steven On 21/10/2010, at 10:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Steven Without starting a flame war, and please realise I'm not making a dig at you, or anyone else for that matter,... But this first thing always bothers me with these printers. The amount of good waste that we all go through with new printers that are still good, but it's cheaper to buy a whole printer then cartridges. What it must be doing to our landfill and environment. It's unfortunate. And although we can't really lay blame. As consumer's we're always look for something cheaper, and so the manufacturer make something cheaper (then get us on the cartridges). It's the chicken and egg situation. Do we blame them for making cheaper printer, or do they blame us for asking for cheap. I do remember not that long ago when I worked for RandomAccess (ok, yes that would be nearly 10 years,..omg that long!) when printers were in factor dearer and cartridges were cheaper. That didn't take long to change. And we see it happen with a lot of things these days. Quality used to be better and last longer. Now nearly everything is a throw away society. But I digress I try and keep my printers as long as possible and get the most out of them. Or pass them off to family or friends that don't have a printer (or when dies). I look at it that way, that at least I'm doing something. ;o) But yes,..it does make it very hard they way printers and cartridges work now.
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Having been to many printer vendor service training sessions where it was clearly outlined, it is no secret that they sell printers in order to have a continual revenue stream of consumables including paper/ink/toners/drums/transfer rolls etc. (printers means..any output device that needs toner or ink, including those wonderful photo kiosks you see at Retravision, Harvey Norman and other places that know jack #$%^ about cameras and film...but I digress...) I know one company a while back that offered a free colour laser printer if you purchased the toner cartridges. I have had several customers very annoyed that the cartridges for their $59 inkjet cost more than the printer. And that's MY fault??? ;-) The problem is it is more expensive to repair than buy a new one so - off to the tip! And then you have the trusty HP Laserjet 4M, the 2100 and a couple of others still hanging around and still reliable. Like Daniel I try to keep them going or pass them on. A bit like a lot of my Mac customers down here who are still running their Apple Lisa and ClarisWorks hee hee (I was going to insert the Deliverance duelling banjo's here... No offence to my Albany Denmark cousins) :-) As Daniel says, the consumer has driven what we have got. To steal an analogy, we are all frogs in a slowly boiling pot and one day - when the only shopping you can do is online, or down the road at the Coles or Woolies one stop to buy everything including your petrol, hardware, home theatre, clothes, furniture, music, videos, toys, fishing camping, computers, ipods and oh by the way we sell groceries too shop. - we'll wich it was like the old days when the milko delivered the milk and the baker delivered the bread. (sigh) I must be ready for bed. ;-) Cheers, Stuart T4 Technology Down in the sticks On 21/10/10 8:14 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: Hi Steven Without starting a flame war, and please realise I'm not making a dig at you, or anyone else for that matter,... But this first thing always bothers me with these printers. The amount of good waste that we all go through with new printers that are still good, but it's cheaper to buy a whole printer then cartridges. What it must be doing to our landfill and environment. It's unfortunate. And although we can't really lay blame. As consumer's we're always look for something cheaper, and so the manufacturer make something cheaper (then get us on the cartridges). It's the chicken and egg situation. Do we blame them for making cheaper printer, or do they blame us for asking for cheap. I do remember not that long ago when I worked for RandomAccess (ok, yes that would be nearly 10 years,..omg that long!) when printers were in factor dearer and cartridges were cheaper. That didn't take long to change. And we see it happen with a lot of things these days. Quality used to be better and last longer. Now nearly everything is a throw away society. But I digress I try and keep my printers as long as possible and get the most out of them. Or pass them off to family or friends that don't have a printer (or when dies). I look at it that way, that at least I'm doing something. ;o) But yes,..it does make it very hard they way printers and cartridges work now. Again, not trying to point fingers,..just wanted to mention my view on it ;) Kind Regards Daniel On 21/10/10 7:19 PM, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: I like your suggestion David. Sounds sensible to me ... my understanding is that the manufacturers often lose, maybe break even, on the printer itself in cunning anticipation of making fat margins on consumables thereafter. Your move puts a bullet in that plan! :-) Daniel, after your Epson recommendation I'd probably take a closer look at Epson, but I'm all out of steam looking at printers - head is spinning. Too much choice. Marlene, I've had a mind change after taking a look at printers in a couple of stores today. I've moved from Canon to HP. I came across an HP Officejet Pro 8500, and when lifting the lid noticed that the flatbed looked larger than the others. It is. The 8500 has a flatbed scanning size which accommodates foolscap (legal) size paper. For me, that can be pretty handy at times. I couldn't find any Canon's on display which went beyond the usual A4 size flatbed. Bear in mind though that even if the flatbed takes only up to A4, I think scanning via the document feeder allows you to scan longer documents. My fear with scanning via the document feeder is that if it's an important or flimsy document, document feeders tear your original to shreds. The I spotted the newer 8500A. I assumed that must have a few extra features than the 8500, however the 8500A on display had only an A4 size flatbed. The Officeworks salesman claimed that that was a difference, and that if I wanted the bigger flatbed, I had to run with the older 8500. Coming home I've checked the
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi Daniel, Are you having iPhone emails disappearing since upgrading to ios 4? I am. Very frustrating and very nearly some missed business I have a theory that they are all stuck in a pipe somewhere in Scandinavia (or maybe Missouri?) and at some point soon, the pipe is going to burst and the Internet is going to be flooded with backdated iPhone emails that will slow the Internet to a crawl as mail servers everywhere try to handle the deluge, and a mass hysteria overtakes Facebook users worldwide... ...or maybe ... somewhere in Missoura... Ma! I think this here pipe dun gonna burst. Wadda'll Uh do Ma? JUST STICK YOUR FINGER IN IT LEROY!!! I DONT WANT THAT THING MESSING UP ALL OVER MY FLOOR YOU HEAR!!! You know I says That there pipes the Devil's work!.. I definitely better go to bed... Night all!!! Stuart Evans T4 Technology On 21/10/10 5:15 PM, Daniel Kerr wa...@macwizardry.com.au wrote: --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- Forwarded Message From: Daniel Kerr dan...@macwizardry.com.au Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:22:07 +0800 To: WAMUG Mailing List wamug@wamug.org.au Subject: Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanner for Mac? Hi Steven My personal preference for colour inkjet is Epson then Canon Have lots of clients with them and they work extremely well. (I've got an Epson Tx810FW at home). Marlene - if only doing black and white printing may be better to consider Laser. Cheaper running costs long term. Brother have a great range that just work and just last. Can't find the wamug archive link direct to it but have mentioned more details previously in archives from me, Ronni and others. (just on road so bit hard to get to it). But they would be more recommendations based on what I've sold and worked with over the last 9+ years. Kind regards Daniel (who hopes this gets delivered due to vodafone iPhone issues). Sent from my iPhone --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: dan...@macwizardry.com.au Web:http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For Everything Macintosh** On 21/10/2010, at 10:08 AM, Marlene Oostryck oostr...@optusnet.com.au wrote: Hi Steven I'm glad you asked your dumb question as I too have been looking at the shops recently with a view to purchasing a Multi-function printer - so I am looking at the responses you get. There is just such a huge range out there and it is so hard to decide what is right. All the retail experts have a different view! - and not many know what works well with Macs. I want my printer mainly for black and white text printing for home use - (photo prints I do at Harvey Norman). I also want to scan and copy. Don't need the fax. I will use usb connection. The main concern is best value for ink useage and the recommendations seem to be - go for a middle range (better value ink cartridges). I know laser printers are better value re ink - but the footprint is too large for my desk - so inkjet is the way I will go. I'm considering a Canon Pixma MP560 - but would love some personal recommendations from WAMUG users. Office Works have some good deals now, and JB Hi-Fi are offering 50% off ink (limit of 3) with a printer purchase. Good hunting, Steven! Regards Marlene On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- End of Forwarded Message -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Stuart Evans T4 Technology ALBANY Shop 6, 69 Lockyer Avenue, Albany, WA, 6330 T 08 9842 9660 F 08 9842 9664 E stuart.ev...@t4.com.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
On 21/10/2010, at 10:12 PM, Marlene Oostryck wrote: Hi All Many thanks for all the recommendations - but - I have been out looking again this afternoon and came across a Canon MP560 for a really good price at Dick Smith - $ 129! The same machine was $229 at the Apple shop, $197 at JB Hi-Fi and the Good Guys, and $168 at Office Works. It really pays to shop around for the best deal. There is a shop here in Freo that has great prices for genuine ink cartridges so I hope I am set for the next few years. I want to scan and copy so a mono-printer will not suit, and a laser printer is too large for my small desk - so - I hope I have made the right choice. I have used Canon printers for 15 years with PC's without any problems at all - so hope the new Canon and Mac will work equally as well. Regards Marlene I have always had a good run with Canon printers. My venerable IP3000 is still running strong (has cartridge paper feed, double-sided and CD-printing). My daughter is now using that, and my MP970 which is now over 18 months old is going just as nicely (same features, plus smarter CD printing, networking, OCR with Omnipage LE and photographic inks). So far I think I've replaced all of the inks in this thing twice since I bought it. Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 064 948 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
I got a Canon MX340 about 3 months ago from the new Apple Centre in Perth. Cost around $220 and I have had no problems at all with printing, copying and scanning ! I had 2 HP's prior to that and scanning with the Mac was a pain in the butt !!! On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au Regards, Stephen Chape -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi Steven I'm glad you asked your dumb question as I too have been looking at the shops recently with a view to purchasing a Multi-function printer - so I am looking at the responses you get. There is just such a huge range out there and it is so hard to decide what is right. All the retail experts have a different view! - and not many know what works well with Macs. I want my printer mainly for black and white text printing for home use - (photo prints I do at Harvey Norman). I also want to scan and copy. Don't need the fax. I will use usb connection. The main concern is best value for ink useage and the recommendations seem to be - go for a middle range (better value ink cartridges). I know laser printers are better value re ink - but the footprint is too large for my desk - so inkjet is the way I will go. I'm considering a Canon Pixma MP560 - but would love some personal recommendations from WAMUG users. Office Works have some good deals now, and JB Hi-Fi are offering 50% off ink (limit of 3) with a printer purchase. Good hunting, Steven! Regards Marlene On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer report? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: Best value wireless multifunction printer/scanne r for Mac?
Hi, I'm not an expert here, but the last time my (inkjet) printer started playing up, I got a Canon MP140 Pixma from Officeworks for about $50. It was one of their cheapest, and may have been a promotion. It's behaved very well really, the scanning software is pretty intuitive and flexible, there is an Omnipage facility for character recognition. I do remember a WAMUG member who said when his inkjet printer run out of ink, he just went and bought another machine, at $50 a pop you can do this! Every time I have got a new printer, the accompanying software has been a step up. So that is a possible strategy for you, go and get the cheapest Canon which does what you want, and if it plays up, get a new one! Cheers -- David Noel 2010 Oct 21 = On 21 October 2010 12:44, Steven Knowles emai...@knowles.net.au wrote: Hi Marlene I've had a couple of recommendations. Apparently Choice ranked most highly the Dell V715w, followed by the Lexmark IntuitionS505. I hadn't even thought about those brands. I've looked at other reviews of the V715w - seems that it's ink-hungry, and there was some mention that Dells aren't Mac compatible or Mac friendly. Plus I read Dell-branded printers are made by Lexmark. Who knows, but too many negative review for me to get comfortable. What I've decided to do is run with Canon. Big name, big range, Mac-friendly I'm told, and generally positive reviews on most models. I don't know what model yet, Canon told me Harvey Norman have the largest range on show, so I'll drop into Harvey Norman today perhaps to see if I can find something which does what I need, including double-sided printing and scanning, wireless. Then I'l ring around for the best deal. Harris Technologies has always been very competitive. Don't know what it's like these days. From what I've read in reviews, the Canon Pixma range ranks highly, so I think you're on the right track. Cheers, Steven On 21/10/2010, at 12:08 PM, Marlene Oostryck wrote: Hi Steven I'm glad you asked your dumb question as I too have been looking at the shops recently with a view to purchasing a Multi-function printer - so I am looking at the responses you get. There is just such a huge range out there and it is so hard to decide what is right. All the retail experts have a different view! - and not many know what works well with Macs. I want my printer mainly for black and white text printing for home use - (photo prints I do at Harvey Norman). I also want to scan and copy. Don't need the fax. I will use usb connection. The main concern is best value for ink useage and the recommendations seem to be - go for a middle range (better value ink cartridges). I know laser printers are better value re ink - but the footprint is too large for my desk - so inkjet is the way I will go. I'm considering a Canon Pixma MP560 - but would love some personal recommendations from WAMUG users. Office Works have some good deals now, and JB Hi-Fi are offering 50% off ink (limit of 3) with a printer purchase. Good hunting, Steven! Regards Marlene On 20/10/2010, at 10:32 AM, Steven Knowles wrote: At risk of asking a dumb question due to the multitude of options, I need to grab a (preferably wireless but can hook into TC if not) multifunction office printer / scanner. Not so bothered about a fax function - who uses fax these days - but it'll probably have that anyway. Printing volume will be minimal, so will scanning for that matter, but just need one around since my HP Officejet 7210 died. Interested in views on the best Mac-friendly brand available at the moment. Anyone know what Choice recommended in their Multifunction printer reporthttp://www.choice.com.au/Reviews-and-Tests/Technology/Computers-and-accessories/Peripherals-and-upgrades/Multifunction-printers-review-09-2010/Page/Introduction.aspx? I'll buy it if not. Cheers, Steven -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
