Re: Connection to Time Capsule
Hi Ronni thanks for this. I figured the other volumes would have a logical explanation. After having run the Disk Utility> First Aid process now my connection to the Time Capsule has me connecting as “Peter Crisp” straight off the bat - without the need for entering password. It does take a moment to connect but at least now the password is remembered. I think I can for now assume that my Guest status on my own network has been returned to my true identity. Thank you and Neil for tips in getting there. Regards Pete > On 22 Apr 2018, at 8:33 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > In simple language…. > The "other volumes" are preboot, recovery, and vm (virtual memory). > They are part of a standard APFS boot volume. > > The vm volume will take up most of the space as it supplements your Ram to > store things too big for Ram. > > A "container" in APFS is much like a partition in other file > systems/partition schemes. > A container will contain a number of virtual "volumes." they are "virtual" in > that the volumes of a container all share the storage space of the container. > > Regards, > Ronni > >> On 22 Apr 2018, at 8:26 am, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> What you are seeing in Keychain Access below is all rather normal. >> >> Re: Disk Utility - High Sierra >> A standard macOS startup APFS container does contain additional volumes to >> the volume with macOS installed on it. >> You can list these with diskutil apfs list. The standard configuration of >> such a container is as follows: >> >> disk1s1, the volume you boot from, mounted at /, shown in Disk Utility as >> Macintosh HD >> disk1s2, ‘Preboot’, not mounted, hidden >> disk1s3, ‘Recovery’, not mounted, hidden >> disk1s4, ‘VM’, mounted at /private/var/vm, hidden >> >> The last 3 are grouped as Other Volumes in Disk Utility. >> They're required by macOS and shouldn't be removed. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >> >> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4 >> >>> On 21 Apr 2018, at 2:18 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, firstly, yes I hope the WCE can do the proper business. We shall >>> see. >>> >>> I had a browse around Keychain Access the other day but was to wary to edit >>> anything so I didn’t. But I had a look again now and there is no Keychain >>> First Aid routine in the latest OSX High Sierra. Some web browsing confirm >>> Apple quietly removed it due to some potential vulnerabilities. In the >>> Keychain Access window there are numerous rows of information representing >>> “Name_Time Capsule” some with Kind is network password and others Airport >>> Disk password. Attributes on thee network password kind say Account: No >>> User account (dated 2017) and the Airport Disk password kind say Account: >>> Peter Crisp - but these are dated 2014. >>> >>> So I ran the Boot volume First AId and it completed successfully. In >>> running that I noted that in the storage representation bar for the Mac HD >>> has a “Used” section to the bar (101GB) and “Other Volumes” (2.82GB) and >>> the rest Free 146GB. I don’t know what “Other Volumes” is. Is that normal? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Pete >>> >>>> On 21 Apr 2018, at 12:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> I just caught up with this thread... sorry for late reply. >>>> But have you tried ‘Keychain First Aid’? >>>> Since problems with passwords are likely due to the keychain, open the >>>> "Keychain Access" utility and run the "Keychain First Aid" routine >>>> (available in the "Keychain Access" menu) on all keychains. >>>> >>>> After this, if the problem still persists, try running a permissions fix >>>> on the boot drive using "Disk Utility", which should ensure all files on >>>> the boot drive are properly accessible. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ronni >>>> PS. Best of luck with your Eagles today... smash Carlton ;-) >>>> >>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>> >>>> >>>>&
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westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni, yes you’re right. I have been doing this every time opening the >>>>> Finder, Press “Connect as” and then enter password. Every time I do this, >>>>> I select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Every time I do it again, >>>>> it asks for me to enter password again. So I do, and also select the >>>>> “keep my password in my Keychain”. Each time entering the password, I am >>>>> successful as being connected as “Peter C...” and not Guest so it is ok >>>>> in that respect. But the fact that the keeping of password is not being >>>>> kept is forcing me to enter it each time. >>>>> >>>>> I did some Apple Support reading and other’s have experienced the same >>>>> failure to have the keychain remember the entered password, means each >>>>> time it needs re-entering. Is there a way to remove the password from the >>>>> keychain and start the process over again and perhaps trigger the >>>>> remembering process for the OS? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com >>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi again Peter, >>>>>> >>>>>> I probably should explain more re my last reply. >>>>>> In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ >>>>>> (whatever you named it). >>>>>> When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect >>>>>> to the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for >>>>>> the Time Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right >>>>>> side of screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Ronni >>>>>> >>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com >>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. >>>>>>> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have >>>>>>>> in place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house >>>>>>>> connect to. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>>>>>> process. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi >>>>>>>>>> network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect >>>>>>>>>> to one network (the same as one used by registered users) but be >>>>>>>>>> connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com &
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and perhaps trigger the >>>> remembering process for the OS? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com >>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi again Peter, >>>>> >>>>> I probably should explain more re my last reply. >>>>> In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ >>>>> (whatever you named it). >>>>> When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect >>>>> to the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for >>>>> the Time Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right >>>>> side of screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com >>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>> >>>>>> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. >>>>>> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in >>>>>>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect >>>>>>> to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>>>>> process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi >>>>>>>>> network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect >>>>>>>>> to one network (the same as one used by registered users) but be >>>>>>>>> connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com >>>>>>>>> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate >>>>>>>>>> networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or >>>>>>>>>> guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was >>>>>>>>>> which. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can >>>>>>>>>> see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is >>>>>>>>>> not currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>
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ad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in >>>>>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect >>>>>> to. >>>>>> >>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>>>> process. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network >>>>>>>> and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one >>>>>>>> network (the same as one used by registered users) but be connected as >>>>>>>> a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate >>>>>>>>> networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or >>>>>>>>> guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was >>>>>>>>> which. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can >>>>>>>>> see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is >>>>>>>>> not currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – >>>>>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>>>>>>> should be an easy check. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of >>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>>>>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding >>>>>>
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ich I have in >>>>>>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect >>>>>>> to. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>>>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>>>>> process. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi >>>>>>>>> network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect >>>>>>>>> to one network (the same as one used by registered users) but be >>>>>>>>> connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate >>>>>>>>>> networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or >>>>>>>>>> guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was >>>>>>>>>> which. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can >>>>>>>>>> see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is >>>>>>>>>> not currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>>>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – >>>>>>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but >>>>>>>>>> it should be an easy check. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of >>>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>>>>>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding >&
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ss. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network >>>>>>>> and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one >>>>>>>> network (the same as one used by registered users) but be connected as >>>>>>>> a Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate >>>>>>>>> networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or >>>>>>>>> guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was >>>>>>>>> which. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can >>>>>>>>> see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is >>>>>>>>> not currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – >>>>>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>>>>>>> should be an easy check. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com <mailto:n...@possumology.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au >>>>>>>>> <mailto:wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au>> on behalf of >>>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>>>>>>>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>>>>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding >>>>>>>>> with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place >>>>>>>>> as for the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks >>>>>>>>> Ronni once again for your input on this one. <> >>>>>>>>&g
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gt;>> Pete >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks >>>>>>>> (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave >>>>>>>> mine quite separate names to distinguish which was which. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see >>>>>>>> my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not >>>>>>>> currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – >>>>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>>>>>> should be an easy check. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Neil >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of >>>>>>>> Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>>>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with >>>>>>>> correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for >>>>>>>> the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni >>>>>>>> once again for your input on this one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now >>>>>>>> connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your >>>>>>>> administrator name you have always connected with. >>>>>>>> Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the >>>>>>>> 2.5GHz? >>>>>>>> Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. >>>>>>>> Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought >>>>>>>> overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. >>>>>>>> I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a >>>>>>>> Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that >>>>>>>> time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am >>>>>>>> happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest >>>>>>>> network, would that prevent me auto connecting and hence interrupt the >>>>>>>> TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete the Guest network after I’ve >>>>>>>> resolved the auto connect as Admin. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>>> Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network >>>>>>>> allows you to share you connection with guests to your house without >>>>>>>> endangering your main network with all of your devices. >>>>>>>> It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of >>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule >>>>>>>> in my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent >>>>>>>> thing as I would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve >>>>>>>> had it. I can’t think what may have changed this but wonder how I can >>>>>>>> actually alter this so my connection is in my own name - as I am known >>>>>>>> to the network as? I had a bit of a Google around but didn’t see >>>>>>>> anything specific to interrogate this one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids >>>>>>>> Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. >>>>>>>> Whilst this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am >>>>>>>> puzzled why the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far >>>>>>>> as the TC connection goes! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my >>>>>>>> apparent admin status seems in order. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any tips from anyone? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pete -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
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Further to this, I might add that I am on High Sierra 10.13.4 (MBP Retina 2013) and those that have experienced it previously indicated it was with the recent update/s and for those people it was not an issue previous to recent updates. Perhaps the sequence of updates for me along with other extraneous things has lead to this and being limited to those others duplicating that scenario. Regards Pete > On 19 Apr 2018, at 7:14 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, yes you’re right. I have been doing this every time opening the > Finder, Press “Connect as” and then enter password. Every time I do this, I > select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Every time I do it again, it > asks for me to enter password again. So I do, and also select the “keep my > password in my Keychain”. Each time entering the password, I am successful as > being connected as “Peter C...” and not Guest so it is ok in that respect. > But the fact that the keeping of password is not being kept is forcing me to > enter it each time. > > I did some Apple Support reading and other’s have experienced the same > failure to have the keychain remember the entered password, means each time > it needs re-entering. Is there a way to remove the password from the keychain > and start the process over again and perhaps trigger the remembering process > for the OS? > > Regards > > > Pete > >> On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Hi again Peter, >> >> I probably should explain more re my last reply. >> In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ (whatever >> you named it). >> When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect to >> the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for the Time >> Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right side of >> screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >> >> >>> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. >>> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. >>> >>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>> >>> >>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in >>>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect >>>> to. >>>> >>>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a >>>> “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution >>>> process. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Pete. >>>>> >>>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one >>>>>> tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network >>>>>> and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one >>>>>> network (the same as one used by registered users) but be connected as a >>>>>> Guest? That's how it seems to me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Pete >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network >>>>>>> that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks >>>>>>> (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave >>>>>>> mine quite separate names to distinguish which was which. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see >>>>>>> my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not >>>>>>> currently on, it is
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Hi Ronni, yes you’re right. I have been doing this every time opening the Finder, Press “Connect as” and then enter password. Every time I do this, I select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Every time I do it again, it asks for me to enter password again. So I do, and also select the “keep my password in my Keychain”. Each time entering the password, I am successful as being connected as “Peter C...” and not Guest so it is ok in that respect. But the fact that the keeping of password is not being kept is forcing me to enter it each time. I did some Apple Support reading and other’s have experienced the same failure to have the keychain remember the entered password, means each time it needs re-entering. Is there a way to remove the password from the keychain and start the process over again and perhaps trigger the remembering process for the OS? Regards Pete > On 19 Apr 2018, at 9:24 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi again Peter, > > I probably should explain more re my last reply. > In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ (whatever > you named it). > When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect to > the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for the Time > Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right side of > screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ > > Cheers, > Ronni > > Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > >> On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. >> Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. >> >> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >> >> >>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in >>> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect to. >>> >>> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a “Sharepoint”. >>> No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution process. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Pete. >>>> >>>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one tonight >>>>> when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network and 5ghz >>>>> only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one network (the >>>>> same as one used by registered users) but be connected as a Guest? That's >>>>> how it seems to me. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>>> >>>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that >>>>>> visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks >>>>>> (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave >>>>>> mine quite separate names to distinguish which was which. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see >>>>>> my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not >>>>>> currently on, it is remembered. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – >>>>>> maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>>>> should be an easy check. >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Neil >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>> Email: n...@p
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Hi again Peter, I probably should explain more re my last reply. In the Finder sidebar under shared is your ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ (whatever you named it). When you click it, then click ‘Connect As’ you are attempting to connect to the server ‘Pete’s Time Capsule’ click connect put the password for the Time Capsule and then you see the ‘Data’ folder and on the far right side of screen under ‘Kind’ is ‘Sharepoint’ Cheers, Ronni Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > On 19 Apr 2018, at 6:51 am, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. > Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. > > Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > >> On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in >> place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect to. >> >> Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a “Sharepoint”. >> No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution process. >> >> Regards >> >> Pete. >>> >>>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one tonight >>>> when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network and 5ghz >>>> only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one network (the >>>> same as one used by registered users) but be connected as a Guest? That's >>>> how it seems to me. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>> >>>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that >>>>> visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks (rather >>>>> than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave mine quite >>>>> separate names to distinguish which was which. >>>>> >>>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see my >>>>> main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not >>>>> currently on, it is remembered. >>>>> >>>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – maybe >>>>> the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>>> >>>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>>> should be an easy check. >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Neil >>>>> -- >>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter >>>>> Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>>> >>>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with >>>>> correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for >>>>> the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once >>>>> again for your input on this one. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pete >>>>> >>>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Peter, >>>>> >>>>> No I wouldn’t delete anythin
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Hi Peter, You have File Sharing setup on your Time Capsule Network. Look in the Finder Sidebar under Shared. Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > On 18 Apr 2018, at 8:20 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in > place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect to. > > Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a “Sharepoint”. > No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution process. > > Regards > > Pete. >> >>> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one tonight >>> when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network and 5ghz >>> only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one network (the >>> same as one used by registered users) but be connected as a Guest? That's >>> how it seems to me. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> Pete >>> >>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that >>>> visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks (rather >>>> than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave mine quite >>>> separate names to distinguish which was which. >>>> >>>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see my >>>> main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not >>>> currently on, it is remembered. >>>> >>>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – maybe >>>> the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>>> >>>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>>> should be an easy check. >>>> >>>> HTH >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> Neil >>>> -- >>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter >>>> Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> >>>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>>> >>>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with >>>> correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for the >>>> moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once >>>> again for your input on this one. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> >>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Peter, >>>> >>>> No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now >>>> connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator >>>> name you have always connected with. >>>> Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? >>>> Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. >>>> Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? >>>> >>>> I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought >>>> overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. >>>> I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Ronni >>>> >>>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <peter
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Hi Peter, I am unfamiliar with “Sharepoint” but Wikepedia seems to suggest this is a web-based, collaborative platform that integrates with Microsoft Office https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SharePoint . However, I’m not sure if/how this might relate to your problem! Hopefully wiser heads can point the way ;o) Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Date: Wednesday, 18 April 2018 at 20:20 To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect to. Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution process. Regards Pete. On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com> wrote: Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one tonight when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network and 5ghz only at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one network (the same as one used by registered users) but be connected as a Guest? That's how it seems to me. Regards Pete On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com> wrote: Hi Peter, Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was which. If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not currently on, it is remembered. If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it should be an easy check. HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once again for your input on this one. Regards Pete On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: Hi Peter, No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator name you have always connected with. Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. Regards, Ronni Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest network, would that prevent me auto connecting and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. Regards Pete. On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: Hi Peter, Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows you to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering your main network with all of your devices. It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. Regards, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.co
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Hi Neil, I’ve checked and there is just the one network which I have in place. It is the same network as all devices/MBP’s in the house connect to. Just a note, on some occasions I see that the connection is a “Sharepoint”. No idea what this means but maybe helps in the solution process. Regards Pete. > >> On 18 Apr 2018, at 6:01 am, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com >> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Neil, thanks for that suggestion, I'll have a look at that one tonight >> when I get home. Pretty sure I only have the one Wi-Fi network and 5ghz only >> at that. Is it possible for a guest to connect to one network (the same as >> one used by registered users) but be connected as a Guest? That's how it >> seems to me. >> >> Regards >> >> Pete >> >> On 17 Apr 2018, at 9:43 pm, Neil Houghton <n...@possumology.com >> <mailto:n...@possumology.com>> wrote: >> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time >>> capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that >>> visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks (rather >>> than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave mine quite >>> separate names to distinguish which was which. >>> >>> If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network >>> preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see my >>> main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not currently >>> on, it is remembered. >>> >>> If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your >>> preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – maybe >>> the guest network is currently “preferred”. >>> >>> Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it >>> should be an easy check. >>> >>> HTH >>> >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> >>> Neil >>> -- >>> Neil R. Houghton >>> Albany, Western Australia >>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>> Email: n...@possumology.com <mailto:n...@possumology.com> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au >>> <mailto:wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au>> on behalf of Peter >>> Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> >>> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>> >>> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 >>> To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au <mailto:wamug@wamug.org.au>> >>> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule >>> >>> Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are >>> working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with >>> correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for the >>> moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once again >>> for your input on this one. <> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Pete >>> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com >>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> >>> No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now >>> connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator >>> name you have always connected with. >>> Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? >>> Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. >>> Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? >>> >>> I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought >>> overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. >>> I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB >>> >>> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au >>> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a >>> Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time >>> I have never used a
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Hi Peter, Going from memory (some time & several OSes earlier) I set-up a time capsule at a rellie’s house with a main network and a guest network that visiting grandkids could use – they appeared as separate networks (rather than logging-in to the same network as user or guest) – I gave mine quite separate names to distinguish which was which. If you have both networks set-up you should see them in your network preferences when you go to advanced, under the wi-fi tab, eg I can see my main wi-fi and my iphone hotspot – even though the hotspot is not currently on, it is remembered. If you CAN see two networks here, you can re-order them to set your preference (as it says – drag networks into the order you prefer) – maybe the guest network is currently “preferred”. Of course, your problem/issue may be something else entirely – but it should be an easy check. HTH Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: n...@possumology.com From: <wamug.org.au-wamug-boun...@lists.wamug.org.au> on behalf of Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> Reply-To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Date: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 at 21:18 To: WAMUG <wamug@wamug.org.au> Subject: Re: Connection to Time Capsule Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once again for your input on this one. Regards Pete On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: Hi Peter, No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator name you have always connected with. Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. Regards, Ronni Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest network, would that prevent me auto connecting and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. Regards Pete. On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: Hi Peter, Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows you to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering your main network with all of your devices. It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. Regards, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this so my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this one. There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC connection goes! I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent admin status seems in order. Any tips from anyone? Regards Pete -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au
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Hi Ronni yes I only have the 5GHz network connection. TM backups are working correctly too with the reliable hourly backups concluding with correct recording of them. I’ll keep the Guest account in place as for the moment this is not a major issue for me. Not urgent thanks Ronni once again for your input on this one. Regards Pete > On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:55 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now connected > to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator name you have > always connected with. > Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? > Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. > Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? > > I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought > overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. > I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. > > Regards, > Ronni > > Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > > >> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a Guest >> network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time I have >> never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am happy to delete it - >> but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest network, would that prevent >> me auto connecting and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer >> to delete the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. >> >> Regards >> >> Pete. >> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Peter, >>> Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows >>> you to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering >>> your main network with all of your devices. >>> It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Ronni >>> >>> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus >>> >>>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in >>>> my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing >>>> as I would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I >>>> can’t think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter >>>> this so my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? >>>> I had a bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to >>>> interrogate this one. >>>> >>>> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids >>>> Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst >>>> this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why >>>> the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC >>>> connection goes! >>>> >>>> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent >>>> admin status seems in order. >>>> >>>> Any tips from anyone? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> Pete >>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> >> >> >> Peter Crisp >> petercr...@westnet.com.au >> >> >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Connection to Time Capsule
Hi Peter, No I wouldn’t delete anything until we can work out how you are now connected to your Wi-Fi Network as ‘Guest’ instead of your administrator name you have always connected with. Are you connected to the 5GHz on your dual-band Network, not the 2.5GHz? Have you made any changes to your 5GHz or 2.5GHz Network. Are your Time Machine backups working correctly? I have never heard of this happening before. I’ll give it more thought overnight and tomorrow as I have another job to finish tonight. I’ll get back to you if & when I can think clearly about this issue. Regards, Ronni Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB > On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:28 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a Guest > network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time I have > never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am happy to delete it - > but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest network, would that prevent > me auto connecting and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to > delete the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. > > Regards > > Pete. > >> On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Peter, >> Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows >> you to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering >> your main network with all of your devices. >> It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. >> >> Regards, >> Ronni >> >> Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus >> >>> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my >>> house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I >>> would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t >>> think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this >>> so my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had >>> a bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate >>> this one. >>> >>> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids >>> Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst >>> this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why >>> the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC >>> connection goes! >>> >>> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent >>> admin status seems in order. >>> >>> Any tips from anyone? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Pete >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > > > Peter Crisp > petercr...@westnet.com.au > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Connection to Time Capsule
Hi Ronni, thanks for your response. I really don’t recall setting up a Guest network - having had it for ~8 years I can’t recall. In all that time I have never used a Guest network nor seen the need to so I am happy to delete it - but don’t know how to. If I did delete the Guest network, would that prevent me auto connecting and hence interrupt the TC backups going on? I’d prefer to delete the Guest network after I’ve resolved the auto connect as Admin. Regards Pete. > On 17 Apr 2018, at 8:17 pm, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter, > Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows you > to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering your > main network with all of your devices. > It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. > > Regards, > Ronni > > Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus > >> On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >> >> I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my >> house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I >> would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t >> think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this so >> my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a >> bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this >> one. >> >> There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids >> Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst >> this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why >> the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC >> connection goes! >> >> I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent >> admin status seems in order. >> >> Any tips from anyone? >> >> Regards >> >> >> Pete >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Connection to Time Capsule
Hi again, with further reading on this it might be due to a bug in the OS Sierra (10.13.4) I am running to do with Auto mount of the TC. Once I set the connection to “Peter Crisp” the TC shows as mounted in the Finder (little upward pointing triangle), but the frustration is that the next time I open a new Finder window, I have to re-enter my password to reset the connection to “Peter …”. Each time I tick the remember in Keychain option but it seems to not remember it. I suspect the others in the house don’t have this issue as they’re all lagging behind in their OSX update status and the more recent updates are where this has arisen. Regards Pete. > On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my > house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I > would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t > think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this so > my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a > bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this > one. > > There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids Macbooks > default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst this isn’t > a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why the network > “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC connection goes! > > I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent admin > status seems in order. > > Any tips from anyone? > > Regards > > > Pete Peter Crisp petercr...@westnet.com.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Re: Connection to Time Capsule
Hi Peter, Did you setup a Guest Network at some stage? Using a guest network allows you to share you connection with guests to your house without endangering your main network with all of your devices. It appears as it you have two separate wi-fi base stations instead of one. Regards, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPhone 7 Plus > On 17 Apr 2018, at 7:57 pm, Peter Crisp <petercr...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > > I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my > house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I > would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t > think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this so > my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a > bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this > one. > > There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids Macbooks > default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst this isn’t > a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why the network > “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC connection goes! > > I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent admin > status seems in order. > > Any tips from anyone? > > Regards > > > Pete > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
Connection to Time Capsule
I have just last night realised that my connection to my Time Capsule in my house has me connected as “Guest”. I think this is just a recent thing as I would have recognised before now over the 8 years odd I’ve had it. I can’t think what may have changed this but wonder how I can actually alter this so my connection is in my own name - as I am known to the network as? I had a bit of a Google around but didn’t see anything specific to interrogate this one. There are 5 of us in the house - all with a Macbook and even my kids Macbooks default connection either has their name or Administrator. Whilst this isn’t a security concern to me with them so much but I am puzzled why the network “sees” me as a Guest in my own home - so far as the TC connection goes! I am able to do all other admin functions on the network so my apparent admin status seems in order. Any tips from anyone? Regards Pete -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
