Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Peter MacGregor
I'd support Ross in this. I recently did the same thing with a client of mine (not web design) even though it meant taking a significant hit on cash flow - the hassle I was getting just wasn't worth it. The funny part was, within a week or so I had three calls from other consultants I know

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Riva If they're insistent on using the photo then why not try the Windows Vista-style design? I think Microsoft have hired some half-decent designers as their Vista site is actually really nice visually. For your project I'm referring specifically to the Vista start page:

RE: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Ann Dietz
, especially if it's the full page background. Ann -Original Message- From: Ross Clutterbuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:59 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Client request! Riva If they're insistent on using the photo then why not try

RE: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Ann Dietz
Here it is... http://www.starqualitydesigns.com/Moodus/ Ann -Original Message- From: Ross Clutterbuck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 8:49 AM To: wdvltalk@lists.wdvl.com Subject: Re: [wdvltalk] Client request! Can somebody post Riva's link again please

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Portman
Thank you all for the advice and replies. This is a really great group of people. Riva • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send

RE: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Cheryl D Wise
Agreed, I rarely have to fire a client but have done so on a couple of occasions. Typically I screen the real PIA people out before they become clients. As I told one person I'd rather be a greeter at Wal-Mart than work with some people. One person I mentored a few years back told me the best

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Peter MacGregor
I suppose it's not really surprising give the history of Microsoft - but viewing the Vista Link Ross gave in FF, the first Title Experience Windows Vista overlaps the first line of the text in the paragraph! Thank heavens I am not restricted to buying only French Petrol to make my

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
(forgot to say this) I know it's lifted directly from the Windows Vista site, but I think it manages to work in the photo very well, and in my personal opinion this is really the only way you're going to be able to work in a solid photo as a background and still maintain a

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Portman
Wow! That looks great. Do you want to work with these people?? (Only kidding.) Riva Ross Clutterbuck wrote: Peter: LOL I'm not surprised either Riva: http://www.themmen.co.uk/ross/sinai_vista.jpg What you think? MOU • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk,

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-07 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
lol Riva I already have a client like that not sure I could handle another one! MOU ___ The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your Internet provider.

[wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
Hi all, I have a client that I am really regretting taking on. One of the reasons is that it is a small organization and the guy who I first spoke to said that he was getting too busy and from now on I would work with guy2. Guy2 then said that he was too busy and I would now work with guy3.

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread PBC Web Design
At 12:33 PM 7/6/2006, you wrote: My latest request is that the menu on the side not be in a box. Because the background is a lake picture with trees and sky, part of the menu is in the sky and the other part is over the trees. How do I make a menu that isn't in a box that will appear on both

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread K.F. Wu
Hi, Honestly, the first viewing of the page made me feel it's a joke; it's not just the small issue of the menu (you can always make the box without outline and with transparent background). It's the big problem of the whole page design. And I don't think anyone here would not say so. Good

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
I know! The old design was awful and they seem to be steering this design back to the old design. I don't know if I will even include this site in my portfolio . . . I find that without a colored background, the menu items are not legible. Riva K.F. Wu wrote: Hi, Honestly, the first

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
Hi Deb, Yes. I have fixed that but have not uploaded the new stylesheet yet. Thanks for pointing it out. I had a horizontal menu and they nixed (sp?) it and wanted a menu on the side. I have half a mind to tell them to find someone else to do this. Riva PBC Web Design wrote: Hi Riva,

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
What do you think would make the site look more professional? It looks as though I am stuck with that darn picture in the background . . . Riva • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Ross Clutterbuck
Riva If I were you I'd politely decline to continue the project on teh grounds that it is incresing difficult and costly for you to operate with such internal conflict on what this project is supposed to entail. Their decision-making process is beyond your scope as a developer and until such

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
Thank you Ross. I have started e-mails to them but ended up never sending them. That was probably a mistake!! Riva Ross Clutterbuck wrote: Riva If I were you I'd politely decline to continue the project on teh grounds that it is incresing difficult and costly for you to operate with such

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread PBC Web Design
At 02:25 PM 7/6/2006, you wrote: What do you think would make the site look more professional? It looks as though I am stuck with that darn picture in the background . . . Riva If you have to use the photo one possibility is making it smaller, add an oval shape around it of a solid

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread PBC Web Design
At 09:13 PM 7/6/2006, you wrote: That's a great idea Deb. Where would the text go though? Well, if you make the photo considerably smaller (like about half it's current size) then you'd have room for text next to it or you could put the text under it depending upon how much text there is.

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread Portman
Yes. Thank you. I guess I am just so stressed from looking at this site and dealing with these people that I can't think straight anymore. Riva PBC Web Design wrote: Well, if you make the photo considerably smaller (like about half it's current size) then you'd have room for text next to it

Re: [wdvltalk] Client request!!!!!

2006-07-06 Thread PBC Web Design
At 09:34 PM 7/6/2006, you wrote: Yes. Thank you. I guess I am just so stressed from looking at this site and dealing with these people that I can't think straight anymore. Suggestion then would be to take a break from it. That's what I do and it generally helps. :: Deb | PBC Web Design ::