I have written an internal Fedora RPM for web2py a while ago and tried
to follow Fedora's packaging guidelines. I'm a RHEL/CentOS sysadmin
and take care of quite a few hosting servers, my main objective was to
easily use it on our RHEL/CentOS servers with Cherokee.
I don't want to steal the
I was a bit at odds when I saw a framework with a GPL v2 license that
claims that the developed code doesn't need to be GPL v2 compatible.
Has this scenario been looked over by a lawyer? Any such document would
enable us to put customers at ease.
We have used CakePHP for our PHP projects for
Companies don't really care if I tell them that it's a no brainer, they
look at this issues trough the eyes of a business risk and consult
lawyers to minimize them. There are some who get cold feet when they
see GPL but can live with MIT or BSD.
Don't know if the analogy of linux OS / webservers
I simply said we had customers expressing concern about using GPLv2
web2py framework for the task of developing a closed source web2py
application. It was never about making closed source versions of web2py
itself. Anyway, I think this issue has been addressed with authority in
massimo's posts and
To summarize:
- a python framework licensed under a pure GPLv2 would not allow for a
closed source application development, so Massimo's exception is
crucial for such projects
- changing the license from the current GPLv2 with en exception to the
LGPL brings no improvement
- changing from GPLv2
SEO experts and SEO experts who use Delicious for ranking optimization
will have a lot of work on their hands these days :)
Yahooo should have sold the service rather than close it, IMHO.
Works for me. Tried from locations in USA (Texas), Slovenia and Serbia...
Yes, the site responds a bit slower than usual.
Traceroute looks ok. Let me know if you need any connectivity/speed tests
done... I tried downloading web2py release and just about maxed out the 10
mbit line here. I can
Very nice!
I hope we'll be able to take a peak at the source code in the future.
Seriously?? :)
Of course the layout is wrong. IE6 is ancient and probably one of the worst
pieces of software in history. Even Google started campaigns to help people
drop it already.
I don't see any reason someone should still be using IE6 or IE7 these days
and I really don't think web2py
Is there a specific PHP framework you use? Perhaps someone could offer some
comparisons based on that.
I used CakePHP a lot before starting with web2py and I always compared the
two in the beginning. It's a natural thing to do, I guess.
In PHP, when an HTTP call is made, Apache, using the PHP, interpretes the
PHP file and sends the outcome. But python, an app needs to
be triggered with a specific port. Why is this so? I am not saying PHP is
better. I just want to understand the how python functions,
the fundamentals.
My post was made in the light of web2py, perhaps it was a bit too vague.
I'm sorry if you still need to support IE6 somewhere. Truly :) Among other
things I contract for our country's government but the departments I have
to deal with have moved away from IE6 a good while ago. I can understand
I have written a calming reply yesterday but now I see it hasn't showed up.
Hm. I use the google groups web interface and this isn't the first time
this has happened. Ah well.
Anyway, it wasn't my intention to attack anyone, but it seems that I still
have a strong opinion about IE. I thought
Which wiki did you try to register for? The web2py bug tracker can be found
here:
http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list
On Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:52:15 AM UTC+1, Serpent_Guard wrote:
I tried registering with the wiki in order to post some bugs I'd found,
but the password field
I have used wymeditor for quite a few projects and it's really great. It
produces excellent code.
I see refinerycms customized the interface quite a bit. Crude old fashioned
pop-up windows are my biggest gripe with wymeditor's default design.
On Sunday, March 4, 2012 5:48:04 AM UTC+1, Massimo
Are you using apache with mod_wsgi? And your mod_wsgi group is www-data?
How about the mod_wsgi user, also www-data or some app specific user?
Perhaps you could post the relevant parts of your apache vhost
configuration?
Having root as file/directory owner is not permissive. That's
This two examples you have given, from your web2py form and from pyjamas,
are they functionally equivalent? If they are, please post the javascript
for both pages too, so that we can really compare.
When you mention this secure tag in html5 or web2py 2.0, it seems to me
that you are still
This two examples you have given, from your web2py form and from pyjamas,
are they functionally equivalent? If they are, please post the javascript
for both pages too, so that we can really compare.
When you mention this secure tag in html5 or web2py 2.0, it seems to me
that you are still
This is a problem with your web server configuration. Could you please post
how are you using web2py, with Apache and mod_wsgi or...? How do your vhost
configurations look like?
On Friday, March 16, 2012 8:02:43 PM UTC+1, george3825 wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to setup web2py and roundcube on
Setting up SNI on Apache is quite straightforward. If anyone has any
problems, ask in this thread and I'll try to help.
Upside:
- dedicated IP isn't needed
- it works in all major browsers and OSes
Downside:
- SNI on Windows XP should work in Firefox, Opera, etc. but not in IE (it
will work in
On Saturday, May 26, 2012 4:45:32 AM UTC+2, Anthony wrote:
Yes, I guess to be more clear, it should indicate that on updates, it
tries to compute the value using the fields being updated. If one of the
fields required to compute the value is not included in the update, then
the compute
I actually like having the code in html.py, but I'd vote for keeping this
as JS in layout.html. It's simple, it's practical, easily changed, leaves
less things to be kept backwards compatible in the web2py itself.
The day Bootstrap stops looking so good will come, sooner or later. Another
I believe this is an unrelated change, a case of it's not a bug, it's a
feature... It defaults to look like buttons in all browsers now.
You could change this back, of course, or even propose to web2py to have
the old defaults back...
Regards
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 7:42:07 AM UTC+2,
So, this would be a one time password that expires? And this data that the
user views is generated on the fly and also discarded later?
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 9:09:31 AM UTC+2, Liam wrote:
Dear all,
I'm looking for a way to allow non-users of my application to login given
a password
On Wednesday, May 30, 2012 6:16:21 PM UTC+2, Bill Thayer wrote:
You could also have web2py and php
share a database system like PostgreSQL.
Hello Allen,
This remark is interesting. I've been working hard for 2 days trying to
get phpMyAdmin to run with web2py but I am having
If you need a mirror quickly, I can give you a full VPS on a 100 Mbit line.
I have space on a new hardware we recently put into service (EU colocation).
On Friday, June 1, 2012 4:53:03 PM UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
Today the VPS that hosts web2py.com failed (not sure what but I can no
Doesn't work when served trough web2py, even if converted to unicode and
even if additionally percent-escaped. I see these choices:
- serve the file from the same location but directly trough another web
server, bypassing web2py altogether (works fine in apache)
- if the contract must be served
Just a heads up to everybody, Bootstrap 2.0.4 has been released a few days
ago.
I don't have a personal preference about this since I'm not using these
selectors in any project. But even if the default css doesn't use them,
some developer could already be using them for custom css definitions.
So wouldn't this break backward compatibility of web2py?
Regards
On Wednesday,
in app layout system
with class names and can adopt to the new underlying css system.
2012. június 6., szerda 15:30:08 UTC+2 időpontban LightDot a következőt
írta:
I don't have a personal preference about this since I'm not using these
selectors in any project. But even if the default css
I can confirm this, using fresh welcome application and Bootstrap upgraded
to 2.0.4.
If a menu item has both an URL specified and also additional submenus,
these don't get displayed. Regardless if this is a first or a second level
menu item. If the URL is set as None, additional submenus
. /a
9. ul class=dropdown-menu
10. ...
11. /ul
12. /li
13. /ul
Il giorno giovedì 7 giugno 2012 04:13:19 UTC+2, LightDot ha scritto:
I can confirm this, using fresh welcome application and Bootstrap
upgraded to 2.0.4.
If a menu item has both an URL specified
It has to happen sooner or later, I guess. The main problem I see are RHEL /
CentOS 5 users with stock python.
Debian Etch also has python 2.4 but I guess that's not a problem any more.
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS users are in the clear (python 2.5).
What I would do is make any crucial bug fixes needed
There is a bunch of shared hosting providers that still use RHEL/CentOS 5
and have not upgraded python nor they wish to - that's the point of having
RHEL/CentOS. You don't manually upgrade or add things.
And on most shared hosting providers you can't install your own version of
python. Trying
I can't talk about providers in general, but I do run a small hosting
company. This is all from our experience, which might or might not be
representative.
In shared hosting world, we really need to keep things locked down as much
as possible. It's a jungle out there. There is really no sane
Well, this is new to me. While not web2py related, still very valuable
information. I'll give them a try.
Thanks!
Also, python 2.6.5 is in RHEL 6 / SL 6 / CentOS 6, which many linux
hosting/VPS companies will be using for years to come.
Well, two possibilities come to mind:
- a spam group's e-mail address is registered a member of web2py-users
- a third party e-mail address is registered as a member of web2py-users and
is then set up to redirect all e-mail to this spam group.
Why is this done is beyond me... some way of
Test forum on http://pyforum.org/ is not working. Tickets are issued when
trying to post in an existing thread or when trying to open a new one.
I apologize for not giving enough information right away. I was using the
Test Forum under the Test pyForum and Miscellaneous here:
http://pyforum.org/pyforum/default/view_forum/1 and not the Members Testing
Forum under the Testing Member Category.
I was testing as an anonymous user, perhaps
You're welcome :)
I have noticed pyForum quite a while a go and have been meaning to look
closer at the code for ages - but never got to it. Something always comes up
Perhaps now I will...
Anyway, what I wanted to add is thanks for sharing this project with the
community. Looks really nice!
Congratulations!
I'm glad to see CakePHP and web2py receive an award in the same category.
IMHO, these truly are top frameworks for PHP and python.
You mean JavaScript and CSS? I guess there is no way past using CSS, but
there are a lot of choices when it comes to JavaScript libraries. Although,
jQuery is one of the best in my opinion.
Yes, I'm using it. My configuration:
Scientific Linux 6.1 in an openvz virtual machine, fully updated
python 2.6.6-20.el6
apache 2.2.15-9.sl6.2
using mod_wsgi in daemon mode.
I'm using SSL with a self signed cert, standard port 443. So far I have only
used the admin app briefly, with
This might be a different error you're seeing. Your web2py does not seem to
be configured for SSL connections. Did you pass the path of your SSL
certificate to the Rocket server? Do you have the python ssl library
installed?
This somewhat cryptic error usually means that you're trying to
I have a development environment set up, based on openvz virtual machines.
Basically, I can fire up any linux os in a matter of seconds... Well,
minutes, if I need to download the OS template first and than add web2py.
Any of the templates are possible:
I like it! Layout is nice, content categorization is similar to the
existing one, which wasn't bad. It's a very nice evolution, not a
revolution, and that's a positive thing. Looks polished and it's giving a
good impression about the web2py project.
Just a couple of things I noticed:
- main
I can't see it either.
Oops — this shared file or folder link has been removed
No proxies whatsoever. Odd...
Perhaps someone could post it on another file sharing service and provide a
link?
You have an error in your Apache configuration somewhere, that much is
obvious. Please post the part of your httpd.conf that you've changed and
any other changes that you've made to the server configuration.
I have been using WYMeditor as WYSIWYM (What You See is What You Mean)
editor and it works quite nicely with some tweaking.
https://github.com/wymeditor/wymeditor is where all the action is, their
web page is outdated.
Perhaps this is because of all the problems from the times when WYSIWYG
Installing mod_wsgi on Fedora would be simply (in shell, executed as root):
yum install mod_wsgi
I agree, most of the better known editors are bloated. I try to keep away
if I can, especially from tiny and ckeditor. I haven't used elrte before,
it seems a bit better. I have used jHtmlArea on a couple of projects with
success, but lately I prefer WYMeditor. The .js is about 120kb minified,
Well, jQuery is neded by web2py anyway.
What do you mean by it's not insured? Do you refer to the sign up checks
or to the lack of actual insurance provided by some insurance company?
As I see it, the sign up process is not much different than with any other
budget certificate issuer. The difference is only the price.
Regards
On
Looks excellent! I'll have use for these in my next project and I'll
definitely post feedback.
Your plugins are greatly appreciated. I'm currently using solidtable,
paginator, suggest widget and tablecheckbox on a project and these have
simplified my work tremendously. I only had to modify
Is Python 2.7 a must? There are python 2.6 RPMs available from EPEL
repository. They install parallel to the existing python 2.4 and thus
avoids breaking yum and other applications that rely on stock python 2.4.
Python 2.7 could be packaged in a similar way, but by using this existing
packages
Yes, rpmbuild with spec files. Actually, I build packages for several
architectures and OS versions, so I use mock - a tool that builds** RPMs in
a clean, chrooted environment. But that's pretty much equivalent to plain
rpmbuild with chroot and some additional automation.
Since you've find so many errors in web2py documentation, why don't you
post at least one of them here. For each documentation error you post,
someone will take the time to troubleshoot one of your errors. What do you
think? Sounds like a good deal to me :)
BTW, if you do want someone helping
Another solution would be to use css. Use divs for individual photos and
than assign a class with float, that should do it nicely.
Ok, guys gals, I'm in dire need of some advice.
I'm using web2py components extensively and they work fine, of course. But
I need to find a solution to make browser history aware of components being
loaded.
I'm aware of projects such as:
- history.js ( https://github.com/balupton/History.js/
Sounds really good. I guess webmail application would also be an
interesting web2py project.
Eh, if work days had about 49 hours, I'd be on it right now...
Is it possible to send a completely simplified email with web2py
gluon.tools.Mail class?
I'm using my own SMTP and the procedure itself works fine, I can send
emails to myself, etc. but the email content produced is giving me
problems. No matter how plainly are my messages constructed, Mail
The code itself works, mails get properly sent. The problem is on the other
side - I need to send mails to a pretty aged interface that parses them and
over which I have no control. It doesn't accept and parse anything that
isn't plain text, so mails with Content-Type: multipart/mixed and
It seems that nobody cares much for web2py, ajax and browser back buttons
:) Nevertheless, I made some progress and thought I'd post some findings
here If anyone searches the group with a similar goal.
Let me describe the problem once again. Imagine a scenario:
1) visitor is on Google,
Good catch, didn't think of that... Didn't work though. :)
For the sake of completeness, here is the relevant code:
if form.process().accepted:
response.flash = T('form accepted')
mail.send(to='xxx...@xx.xxx',
subject='Simply',
I just tested your code and it works fine! The raw=True does the job as
expected so I can stop using smtplib directly. Thank you!
On Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:31:57 PM UTC+1, Alan Etkin wrote:
I requested a change in Mail to support unencoded and no multipart
messages.
I believe this is the OS's requirement, not Plesk's. Plesk itself has no
python parts and AFAIK uses mod_python to enable python for customer's
sites.
If you are, ie., using CentOS/RHEL 5.x, than stock python version is 2.4
and that's hard to upgrade due to some core systems depending on it,
This brings back memories. I believe I may have had a similar problem
recently. Apache mod_wsgi, web2py 1.99.2.
I wanted to use css3pie to overcome IE8 and IE9 lack of CSS3 support. IE8
is easy going, but IE9 strictly demands a correct file-type for the PIE.htc
behaviour file in order to use
First, I apologize for stealing a thread a bit, but this seems to be
related to the original issue. This group is a wealth of knowledge so I
guess it doesn't hurt to document this here...
In the case of PIE.htc, it only needs a proper content-type and it needs to
be referenced in the css (I'm
Tickets don't get created, but there should be a trace in the database.
Take a look in the db.scheduler_run.traceback field of the task in question.
The scheduler_run.status should be FAILED and you'll see the run times,
etc. in other columns... Basically, everything about the scheduler is in
Always when I deal with big projects, the first thing I do is organize a
strict file structure. Not just web2py, I do similar things with photoshop
layers, files on my computer, etc. It just makes life that much easier.
For now, I would just reorganize your file names a bit...
ie.:
Which should help when using the nightly or devel versions of web2py, since
it comes with Bootstrap now... ;)
Anyway, whether using Bootstrap or any other css library (or even a
completely custom approach), the principle is the same. It's just plain css.
Regards
On Wednesday, June 13, 2012
, LightDot ha scritto:
I can confirm this, using fresh welcome application and Bootstrap
upgraded to 2.0.4.
If a menu item has both an URL specified and also additional submenus,
these don't get displayed. Regardless if this is a first or a second level
menu item. If the URL is set as None
I have tried your updated bootswatch.css from another thread here, which
also incorporates this fix. I confirm that BS 2.0.4 works now.
Thanks!
On Sunday, June 17, 2012 12:33:52 AM UTC+2, Paolo Caruccio wrote:
LightDot,
try to append in static/css/bootswatch.css this rule:
.dropdown-menu
, Massimo Di Pierro ha
scritto:
Can you coordinate with Andrew and Paolo and send me a single fix that
applies to latest trunk and addresses the outstanding issues?
On Sunday, 17 June 2012 08:42:50 UTC-5, LightDot wrote:
I have tried your updated bootswatch.css from another thread here
we do not
want to mantain our own modified bootswatch. People should be able to
download a theme and use it without editing. Can this be addressed in
web2py.css?
On Sunday, 17 June 2012 18:42:12 UTC-5, LightDot wrote:
I have tested the V2 versions attached with Issue 856 and they seem
I think this is closely connected to an existing Issue 687 (Compute= should
work always, not once):
http://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/detail?id=687
Regards
On Monday, June 18, 2012 11:21:57 PM UTC+2, peter wrote:
I would try removing the readable and writeable false for the compute
There was a very recent change from using .icon-chevron-right to using
.chevron-right
in web2py itself and this might be your issue.
You could test quickly by commenting out the .icon-chevron-right section in
bootswatch.css. This will affect other things, so just test if it fixes the
I was too quick to comment and too optimistic :)
It seems Bootstrap's css will need to be further tested for collisions with
current web2py css code. I'm using Carousel myself but didn't notice the
problem because I have never enabled the controls...
Regards
On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 9:35:42
Luckily, it is now :)
Red Hat EL = Scientific linux = CentOS
version 5.x has python 2.4.3
version 6.x has python 2.6.6
Fedora 17 has python 2.7.3, while 3.x can be installed in parallel since
Fedora 13.
Just to note for anyone not aware how Red Hat works, all these older python
versions get
- to update frequently a web2py file but it's better submit a big
patch. We should test all bootstrap's features to correct the eventual
collisions with web2py.css
@LightDot
Finding every collision between web2py.css and bootstrap.css it's not
simple and take much time, but the target
Correct. AFAIK, you're not supposed to overwrite the app's default
layout.html with the one from a plugin.
You can include a custom layout, ie. /views/plugin_layout_name/layout.html,
but not /views/layout.html.
Regards,
Ales
On Tuesday, June 26, 2012 11:59:40 PM UTC+2, François Delpierre
Just by the sounds of it, I doubt lack of memory would cause such
behaviour. Can't say what would though, without knowing what your
application does and how is it programmed to do that. There is basically no
information to troubleshoot with.
Regards
On Friday, July 6, 2012 8:51:38 PM UTC+2,
My guess is that you have Apache and Rocket (web2py's internal web server)
both claiming port 443 at the same time. Do you want to use Apache to run
web2py or..?
Regards,
Ales
On Friday, August 3, 2012 11:40:34 PM UTC+2, joe wrote:
Hello
I am running apache on a dedicated windows server
There are many hosting companies that won't upgrade OS provided python
versions for the lifetime of a server. Good luck requesting a python
upgrade on a Red Hat / CentOS / Scientific Linux server, this simply won't
happen.
This is the situation at the moment:
RHEL 6: python 2.6.5
Debian 6:
I'm distributing and supporting a project made with web2py as a set of RPMs
(RHEL/CentOS/SL) for a while now. No big problems... I use Mock on SL6 to
generate the RPMs.
This project is fairly complex and involves much more than just web2py app,
so my spec files wouldn't be applicaple straight
, August 29, 2012 4:39:55 PM UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
Can you tell us more. Perhaps share an example that packages web2py
On Tuesday, 28 August 2012 23:05:16 UTC-5, LightDot wrote:
I'm distributing and supporting a project made with web2py as a set of
RPMs (RHEL/CentOS/SL) for a while
When you say that you are using the same jQueryUI files, does this mean the
same old jQuery version? Version of jQuery bundled with web2py welcome app
has changed between 1.99.x and 2.0.x, so if you're upgrading your existing
app in any way, this might be a factor too.
Regards,
Ales
On
Please don't spread FUD. The news only says that the DESKTOP CD IMAGE will
not contain python 2.x, this doesn't mean Ubuntu 12.10 will remove python
2.x from the distribution. This also doesn't affect server images, or any
other Ubuntu images. The server cd image and other images will contain
Works on Firefox 15, Opera 12.02, Chromium 20.0.1132.47, all on Fedora.
Can't try IE at the moment.
But - no visible breakpoints, unable to resize the editor within the page.
I'm guessing these aren't supposed to work yet, but perhaps we should agree
on a set of basic functionality and try to
Please note, CodeMirror static files are present in web2py *Github* repo,
but not in web2py's Googlecode repo (!). This had me confused for a couple
of minutes, until I looked at the code... Basically, you're missing the
entire applications/admin/static/codemirror directory.
Regards,
Ales
On
I have added the following to web2py's CodeMirror implementation:
- line highlight (line with the cursor is highlighted)
- autofocus (focus in the editor when page is opened)
- fullscreen toggle (F11 toggles editor to fill the entire window, ESC or
repeated F11 exits to default editor size).
, 2012 8:48:44 PM UTC+2, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
Please, can you send them to me?
On Sunday, 9 September 2012 11:32:53 UTC-5, LightDot wrote:
I have added the following to web2py's CodeMirror implementation:
- line highlight (line with the cursor is highlighted)
- autofocus (focus
:
Please, can you send them to me?
On Sunday, 9 September 2012 11:32:53 UTC-5, LightDot wrote:
I have added the following to web2py's CodeMirror implementation:
- line highlight (line with the cursor is highlighted)
- autofocus (focus in the editor when page is opened)
- fullscreen toggle
Native JSON features look really interesting.
Basically, postgres can return a row or an array as JSON now. And validate
JSON. Seems quite handy!
Regards,
Ales
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:21:54 AM UTC+2, Niphlod wrote:
Happy september with the 9.2 release for everybody
About python-psycopg2 - I'd rebuild the source rpm with your 9.1
posgresql-devel, just in case. RHEL/CentOS 6 originally ships with postgres
8.4.x, so this might be an issue. Usual caveats apply - don't (re)build rpm
packages as root, etc.
Regards,
Ales
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 6:11:43
I have been running python and python3 packages side by side on Fedora ever
since python 3 came out. I'm sure all bigger distros have this taken care
of in a similar way... I was curious so I took a look:
- Debian has 2.x as 'python' and 3.x as 'python3'
- Fedora has 2.x as 'python' and 3.x as
I'd just rebuild the source RPM if I was you. Way simpler... besides you'll
need to take care of the updates all by yourself now, same as for your
postgres. Just taking Red Hat (or CentOS) updates and rebuilding them
(couple of seconds of work) really simplifies things. Your postges RPMs are
This error comes from Windows Socket API. It looks like Windows is having
problems with TCP connections, consequently the backlog becomes too big for
the buffers to handle. I guess this could be caused by the size of the
transaction too, not just by the number of connections, I'm not sure.
I'm not user that it does. I tested browser search (ctrl+f) in:
- Fedora linux: Firefox 15.0, Chromium 20.0.1132.47, Opera 12.02
- Windows 7: IE8, IE9
by using:
- windowed browser with default size editor
- windowed browser with full size editor
- full screen browser with full size editor.
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