Re: [SPAM] WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-18 Thread Altera WO Team
I can quote every single line of Maik's email. We have a lot of happy clients with running WO apps and we use WO all the time. The problem of finding good new developers is the same, we need good developers and that is hard, a good developer can be easily turned into a good WO developer. A bad

Re: [SPAM] WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-18 Thread Jean-François Veillette
Le 2014-03-18 à 12:08, Altera WO Team webobje...@altera.it a écrit : I can quote every single line of Maik's email. We have a lot of happy clients with running WO apps and we use WO all the time. The problem of finding good new developers is the same, we need good developers and that is

Re: [SPAM] WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-18 Thread Ramsey Gurley
One could argue a lot of good developers are never going to “get” the beauty of WO either. http://lukeplant.me.uk/blog/posts/why-learning-haskell-python-makes-you-a-worse-programmer/ Both of these are strongly typed. Which do you prefer, Haskell: add x y = x + y or Java: public int add(int

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Markus Ruggiero
On 05.03.2014, at 22:50, Klaus Berkling webobje...@berkling.us wrote: On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote: [...] Fourth, the tooling is showing bit rot. Q is the only person left who really has a handle on how WOLips works. My copy of rule modeler

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Markus Ruggiero
On 05.03.2014, at 12:37, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Daniel Mejia
I’m migrating everything to the JavaScript world. Regards, Daniel. On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:34, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: From: Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date: March 7, 2014 at 4:34:50 CST To: webobjects-dev

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread James Cicenia
...@kataputt.com Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date: March 7, 2014 at 4:34:50 CST To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com On 05.03.2014, at 12:37, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Jesse Tayler
for internal and personal projects, but now I’m migrating everything to the JavaScript world. Regards, Daniel. On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:34, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: From: Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Joel M. Benisch
I’m migrating everything to the JavaScript world. Regards, Daniel. On Mar 7, 2014, at 4:34, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: From: Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.com Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date: March 7, 2014 at 4:34:50 CST To: webobjects-dev

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Aaron Rosenzweig
Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date: March 7, 2014 at 4:34:50 CST To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com On 05.03.2014, at 12:37, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business

Re: [SPAM] WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Musall Maik
Hi folks, we have dozens of active WO-based projects running for happy customers. Our company has been doing WO since the early beginnings, and we still use it all the time for new projects if it fits the needs. Which it most often does, usually accompanied by some Javascript frameworks. Like

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Chuck Hill
, webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.commailto:webobjects-dev-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: From: Markus Ruggiero mailingli...@kataputt.commailto:mailingli...@kataputt.com Subject: Re: WebObjects-Projects? Date: March 7, 2014 at 4:34:50 CST To: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:webobjects-dev

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Baiss Eric Magnusson
On Mar 7, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Aaron Rosenzweig aa...@chatnbike.com wrote: … even beyond the beginning of WO to find the truth. A guess that would fit the result better than any I know would have been SimDBM written for the Dec-10 in Simula 67 around the year 1974 at the Swedish National

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Daniel Mejia
impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been down a lot. I have been looking hi and lo for opportunities to work with WO again, but apart from self-initiated projects there was nothing going on. Is this perception limited

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Ray Kiddy
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 09:50:01 -0600 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote: Yep. WO is dead. I was thinking of starting learning Ruby. I love Objective-C and iPhone development. And now was thinking about Node or Ruby for the back end. Thoughts? snip WebObjects as a brand has been DOA for

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Chuck Hill
On 2014-03-07, 4:51 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 09:50:01 -0600 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.commailto:ja...@jimijon.com wrote: Yep. WO is dead. I was thinking of starting learning Ruby. I love Objective-C and iPhone development. And now was thinking about Node or Ruby for the back

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-07 Thread Nilton Lessa
Enviado via iPad Em 07/03/2014, às 22:12, Chuck Hill ch...@global-village.net escreveu: On 2014-03-07, 4:51 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote: On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 09:50:01 -0600 James Cicenia ja...@jimijon.com wrote: Yep. WO is dead. I was thinking of starting learning Ruby. I love

WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Jürgen Simon
Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been down a lot. I have been looking hi and lo for opportunities to work

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Christoph Wick
. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been down a lot. I have been looking hi and lo for opportunities to work with WO again, but apart from self-initiated projects there was nothing going

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Klaus I. Berkling
On Mar 5, 2014, at 3:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Is this perception limited to Germany or is it even just me? Are there any project marketplaces for WO that I am not aware of? How much of a future would you guys think WO really has? I doubt that it's just Germany. I think

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Ramsey Gurley
On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Ken Anderson
, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been down a lot. I have been looking hi and lo for opportunities to work with WO again, but apart from self

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Nilton Lessa
, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009 crisis the market for WebObjects-projects has really been down a lot. I have been

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Pascal Robert
: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 15:12:49 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects. It is my impression that at least in Germany, after the 2008/2009

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Gino Pacitti
instead of being full of stress. - Mail original - De: Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com À: Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 15:12:49 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Chuck Hill
...@webtecc.com Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.commailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 15:12:49 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.commailto:si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Alan Ward
original - De: Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com À: Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com Cc: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 15:12:49 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Klaus Berkling
On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote: [...] Fourth, the tooling is showing bit rot. Q is the only person left who really has a handle on how WOLips works. My copy of rule modeler is buggy as hell and crashes 50% of the time I try to launch or save

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Pascal Robert
From what I learned, the iTunes group is still using WO, but the other groups can use whatever they want. - Mail original - De: Gino Pacitti ginok...@mac.com À: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 16:45:47 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? So if these guys

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Chuck Hill
@lists.apple.commailto:webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 15:12:49 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:37 AM, Jürgen Simon si...@webtecc.commailto:si...@webtecc.com wrote: Hello, this is not a technical inquiry, more a temperature check on the business side of WebObjects

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Timothy Worman
Oh man, am I gonna have to learn ASP if I ever want another job!!?? Crap. Maybe I can join the Apple caravan. :-) Tim UCLA GSEIS On Mar 5, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Klaus Berkling webobje...@berkling.us wrote: On Mar 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Ramsey Gurley rgur...@smarthealth.com wrote: [...]

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Klaus Berkling
On Mar 5, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Timothy Worman li...@thetimmy.com wrote: Oh man, am I gonna have to learn ASP if I ever want another job!!?? Crap. Maybe I can join the Apple caravan. :-) YMMV, there's PHP too :-) kib The era of procrastination, of half-measures, of soothing and baffling

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Jesse Tayler
how about some server-side javascript? who uses object inheritance or relies on those pesky class types anyway? you can perform an otherwise normal database backup and say “I’m going to take a mongo dump now” at the office. so, it’s not like it’s all about being effective by getting hard

Re: WebObjects-Projects?

2014-03-05 Thread Timothy Worman
...@mac.com À: webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com Envoyé: Mercredi 5 Mars 2014 16:45:47 Objet: Re: WebObjects-Projects? So if these guys are poached by Apple - what technology are they using there? Have they left WO completely? On 5 Mar 2014, at 21:23, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: It's

WebObjects projects hosting...

2007-10-31 Thread Francis Labrie
Couldn't Apple gives space and bandwidth for WOLips/Wonder/etc. community projects on http://www.macosforge.org/? Andrus Adamchik wrote: If it comes to bandwidth, I think we can afford it. I am currently paying about $5/month for hosting remote server backups. For 5 bucks my package gives

Re: WebObjects projects hosting...

2007-10-31 Thread Timmy
This just makes way too much sense. It would be nice to at least see this happen. T On Oct 31, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Francis Labrie wrote: Couldn't Apple gives space and bandwidth for WOLips/Wonder/etc. community projects on http://www.macosforge.org/? Andrus Adamchik wrote: If it comes to