On Jan 20, 2008 8:33 PM, Ian Bicking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The option no one seems to consider, but which I continue to advocate,
> is using FormEncode with htmlfill and ad hoc templates to generate the
> actual HTML forms (because once you take out the value filling, error
> filling, and v
On Jan 4, 2008 6:55 PM, Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > FormKit is not really actively maintained either.
>
> Is this sort of thing passe at this point? What approach is up to date?
>
As one of the two authors of FK, I can confirm this.
I don't know that it's passe, we are still u
On 10/26/07, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> One thing you should do is create a new working directory with
> makeAppWorDir. If you start an empty working directory, you should get
> the Example and Test contexts. Does this work? Then copy your servlets
> to that new working dire
On 10/26/07, Matt Feifarek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm finding some weird url-mapping errors... but I'm trying to use an old
> version of Webware with the newer version of mod_webkit... I'm using v
> 0.9.0. I'm reluctant to try and upgrade Webware, as
On 10/25/07, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> mod_webkit definitly works on 64bit boxes. Seems you're using a very old
> version that doesn't cope with Apache 2.2.
>
You're right!
Thanks.
I'm finding some weird url-mapping errors... but I'm trying to use an old
version of Webwa
Can anyone get this to compile?
In the past, I just moved over a good module from another system, but now
I'm on a 64bit box.
Here's what I get:
# make
/usr/bin/apxs2 -c mod_webkit.c
/usr/share/apr-1.0/build/libtool --silent --mode=compile
--tag=disable-static x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc -prefer-pic -D
On 1/11/07, sophana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are still some small things to change IMO (some optimizations,
unicode things), but it is great.
Hi Sophana... I'd be interested to hear your ideas about that... I've been
working lately on FK, including adding WSGI support, and fixing some
On 1/11/07, michelts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
To "generate" the form I use cheetah by hand. I think use FunFormKit
to validate forms isn't a good idea because it is not update anymore
(am I right?).
FormEncode and FunFormKit are by the same author... I think Ian considers
FormEncode to be h
On 9/6/06, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> FormKit is still maintained, but there's not much "action"... it pretty> much does what it does. We're not improving it much. We get the> occasional bugfix from the community, but that's about it.
That's pretty similar to Webware itself, s
On 9/6/06, Christoph Zwerschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is FormKit still maintained? If it is not actively developed any moreand not used for any other web frameworks, I think it would be good tocontinue development inside the Webware SVN and release it together with
Webware, maybe with some impr
FormKit isn't made by the same group of people as who make WebKit, for starters.I suppose that most people want to keep WebKit lean and mean; maybe FormKit is not necessary for most people.In general, in my opinion, Webkit is a pretty advanced piece of software; as in it's for advanced people. It's
On 4/2/06, sophana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm actually using formkit with success. I find it just cool as it is.Maybe the forms look should be a little more customizable (I haven'ttried a lot)Glad to hear it.FK has quite extensive support for CSS and other attributes; just make sure to go beyon
On 3/9/06, sophana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now I'm looking for a method for generating forms.formkit looks quite good, although not that simple.Hello Sophana.
I'm one of the authors of FormKit.
The apparent complexity is largely due to the crappiness of HTML, but
we've done a pretty good job (
I see your point.
While in FK these functions are packaged in the same library, there's
not much "together" in the actual logic. Basically, we have some
tag-building (string building) stuff and then some data validation
stuff. And some glue to hook it to webkit.
Either one could be removed and us
I see your point.
While in FK these functions are packaged in the same library, there's
not much "together" in the actual logic. Basically, we have some
tag-building (string building) stuff and then some data validation
stuff. And some glue to hook it to webkit.
Either one could be removed and us
Right, right.
I confused myself. You were speaking specifically about the validation
layer in FormEncode, and I confused that with FE in its entirety.
We're certainly open to improving the validation constructs in FK. I
need to look at your library at some point soon.
I know from your blog (whic
Not specifically, no. I am not very familiar with your library, but
I'm certain that we're open to the idea.
We did quite a bit of overhaul on Validators/Converters this time
around, but it's possible (likely) that your library is more
sophisticated.
Also, we're hoping to make FK more useful to p
We've released an alpha of FormKit, our form processing and generation
library for python, with extensive webkit support.
Further info in the Google group:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/FormKit4Python
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I can certainly put this into MultiSelectField;
What should be the default behavior?
1. Do not coerce single values into lists (pass the string)
2. Coerce single values (strings) into lists of one string
I guess that I vote for 2. Any code out there that has been written to
coerce after-the-fact
Hi Steve.
We remembered why we did this: it's Webkit's fault. Or perhaps it is
the fault of cgi.FieldStorage.
Even if you take FormKit out of the equation, a multiple-select
tag works this way. We can certainly "fix" this via FormKit,
but we thought it bad to change the behavior of the way webki
Hello Steve.
I wouldn't dive into making your own mods just yet; we're hoping to
release a new alpha of FormKit in the very next few days; then, you
should be able to make a subclass (or more simply, a
Validator/Converter) to make it work the way that you want.
I've tried to answer some of your q
I've seen this kind of bs on occasion.
Once in a very long while, I need to nuke .pyc files... when it
*seems* to run them rather than newer .py files.
Also, I'd look at line-ending problems (maybe there are a few lines
that have windows-y ones or something) and or indentation problems;
sometimes
Hello.
I've just started a Google Group for FormKit (the dAlchemy version).
It's called:
FormKit4Python
We're hoping to cut a new release soon, so please hop over there and
make any comments, suggestions, or whatever.
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Hi Jacob.
I'm not sure why you were having problems. Our server has been up
without problems for months. Perhaps it was a DNS failure?
The link to FK is:
http://dalchemy.com/opensource/formkit/
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 22:42:15 -0800, jacob martinson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I haven't been able
You're right, it doesn't really matter, so long as it's in sys.path.
What do WE do? We put it in site-packages. You can also put it inside of
Webware/
Webware changes sys.path so that you can import things that are inside
of the "Webware" tree without the "Webware" prefix...
So, in any of the c
Hello Jakub.
I'm not able to answer your question (I don't use UserKit). I'm just
writing because I don't think that anyone else uses UserKit either.
It's sortof dead code in webware. If you've found it useful, that's
great, but you may have trouble finding help.
It DOES seem like this may be a m
Hello Douglas.
I think that you want the self.request.fields() method in the servlet;
it contains a dictionary of all input passed from the form, and also the
query-string variables.
I'm afraid that I'm not familiar with the syntax you have below; it's
probably PSP, but I don't use that.
Dougl
You found all three :-)
Both FunFormKit and FormKit (which I am a co-author of) are fully
useable. I'm not very familiar with FormEncode, though I do remember
that it has some pretty cool ideas that inform it.
I'll refrain from offering opinions, since I'm obviously not objective,
but I'd sugge
Do a "reply-to all" in your email client.
Uwe Grauer wrote:
Why is it, that everytime i want to reply to webware-discuss messages,
i end up sending a private mail to the originator of the message?
What kind of things do other people set at sourgeforge-lists that causes
nice replies?
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Hi Chas.
Perhaps the developers can chime in on the version numbering, but I'd
say that it may be this: although the framework is quite stable, I know
that there are some things that we all want it to be that it is not yet,
so I expect this explains the wait for v 1.0.
I'm glad that you're givi
Hi Chas.
I'm not one of the developers, but I've been using webkit nearly
exclusively for almost 3 years.
I think that part of the reason that there aren't many bug fixes is that
there aren't many bugs. The bugs that are found tend to be pretty
simple, and I've seen them get resolved quickly. I
Did you try the __del__() function?
The problem is that servlets are re-used, as Geoff mentioned. They're
not destructed after they run. Even if __del__ works, it won't
necessarily work the way that you want.
If you just want to explicitly shut down the database connection, you'll
have to wait
Thanks for that.
I guess that it's not "way" :-)
But it does depend on what gets pickled; if it stays in memory, there's
no pickling. I've noticed for example that pickling new style classes
(with the getstate/setstate stuff) is pretty slow. Typical session stuff
like strings and ints should be
File based sessions are way slower. Definitely an undesirable band-aid
solution.
We've seen this sort of thing, too. We were never able to determine the
source of the bug (or whether it was a bug).
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Try changing your sessions store from Dynamic to File. What do you mean
Hello fellow Webware Heads.
From time to time, people ask this list for public sites running
Webware. We've just launched a big new site that may be interesting to
check out:
http://www.cocktaildb.com/
It's Webware (0.8.1) entirely (except for a few small bits of Twisted
for rendering images)
I think that these questions are going to be difficult to answer for
obvious reasons.
The list here is the only useful metric; how many people are subscribed?
That's a question for the mailman admin.
I've been subscribed since mid '02, and since then, there have been over
7,000 messages. I fin
Hello JZ.
I haven't used this, but your note rang a bell. I did some quick
googling, and found this:
http://jaguar.sourceforge.net/webware/unix-sockets.html
Good luck
JZ wrote:
Can webkit run on using UNIX socket instead of tcp socket? I cannot
find any information in docs.
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This is a cool idea to make a unified connection between web servers and
app servers:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/web-sig/2004-August/000518.html
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Thanks for your comments, Geoff.
Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
I did a couple of Webware releases, and I found that it was more work and
more confusing to have independent version numbers for each subcomponent
That's certainly a good argument for keeping everything together. Point
taken.
Actually, I
Chuck Esterbrook wrote:
It's difficult to say what is essential. That differs from person to person both in terms of the kits and also what each kit contains.
I absolutely agree. My desire to pare it down has more to do with newbie
experience and docs than taking up hard drive space or any noti
It is CERTAINLY not my point of view that these other kits have no
value... it's merely my opinion that Webware/webkit should be pared down
to the essentials, with these other kits being "plug-ins".
And/or, we could distribute all of the useful "kits" under the Webware
umbrella "brand" and do r
Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
I think what's needed in the short term is a volunteer to cut a new release
based on what's already in CVS. That, if I recall correctly, was the
original request that started all the discussion. There have been a few
bugfixes on the 0.8 release branch since 0.8.1, so cutti
There was a little chatter a couple of weeks ago about a new release. It
seems to have died down, so, I'd like to start a discussion to see where
people think a new release might go.
Herein lies my opinion. I have no vested control over Webware, but I and
my firm have been using it basically ex
David London wrote:
I'd like to start the petition for the release of a new version.
I understand your frustration, and I think that in sentiment, you'll get
nothing but agreement from this list, but it's not that simple, I'm afraid.
I'm certainly not one of the veterans here, but I've been aro
I'll have to experiment with this one, but my first thought would be to
take out the self.valNotEmpty validator... that may be getting applied
to the drop-down.
I'll make a similar example here and test it, and let you know, but in
the mean time, take that out.
We use EditableSelect ALL THE TI
Hi Marc.
You don't "replace" the input; you get the values. form.values() gets
them all; or you can poke at them field by field. The form object
maintains the raw (unconverted) values, and the defaults, also.
You could certainly poke into the request object itself (assuming that
it is designed
Marc Saric wrote:
While fumbling around with validators I found, that they have two common
disadvantages (for me):
1. The error-messages are hard-coded (i.e. english text).
2. Most of them actually test for two things at once, existance AND
correct format of field-input.
The Validator/Converters ar
Hello, sir.
I don't understand your question.
Your say that submit is working correctly? What problem are you having?
toshi-O wrote:
Does anyone know about how to do this?
Any help and suggestion appreciated.
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You can also subclass HTTPServlet rather than Page.
I've done that to make servlets that make images or things like that.
For this kind of thing, the "LiveHTTPHeaders" extension to
mozilla/firefox is immensely useful.
I Can't help with XUL, though ;-)
CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
I have added "applicati
You'll either have to use script, or have "more" and "fewer" actually
post the form via different actions.
When you post, you can use python code to add/remove fields to/from your
form, seed the form again, and re-paint it.
If your page is light enough, it may not be a big deal to make the
ser
I'm not sure what "pr" is, but I'm assuming it's output.
What's happening in your code is that your're outputting the field
before you give it choices. So, the tag will not reflect the changes
that you made after you output it.
Set your choices before you output the tags.
CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
H
It's quite likely that this is simply an oversight. I'll check.
Compound fields have sucked since we made FK; we mean to fix them "one day".
A short-term solution would be to dig into the compound field itself and
set validators on the individual field elements (which are in fact just
fields). It
CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
That's very strange. We've never seen that sort of thing, and we use
non-validated fields all of the time.
I'll send the code to you privately.
Roger.
I specified:
newForm.addField(Fields.TextField('mname',[Validators.MaxLength(25)],label="Middle
Name"))
It made no differen
CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
Setting an empty parameter for the error test made no difference. As
soon as I put in some error test though, e.g. Validators.MaxLength(25)
for middle name, the form posted properly. Speaking of MaxLength(),
how does one specify the width of a text field in FormKit? I saw n
Marc Saric wrote:
Although this is only for Intranet-use, I would like to add a Validator,
which prevents SQL-injection on Db-queries.
Has anyone tried to write one or an advice, where to look or how to
tackle this problem?
Hello, I'm the author of FormKit.
We've never done this specifically, but I
CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote:
... in the writeContent() method
if self.form.fname.error():
self.writeln('''\tPlease enter a first name''')
self.writeln('''\t%s''' % self.form.fname.tag())
else:
Hi Clifford.
FormKit is 3rd party software, not included with Webkit, but I'm one of
the two authors, so I'll answer.
The form.dump() method is very very simple, and not really meant for
permanent use. It's just to make sure that your form works. Of course,
it /can/ be used, but it's ugly, as y
Peter Maas wrote:
I work at a little software company that has delivered some
iis/asp based apps to a corporate customer. The apps are
used by 50-1000 employees. The asp code is vbscript (quite
messy) and I'd like to port these apps to Python. I run a
test installation of Webware which is my favour
A year ago or so, a few of you talked about integrating WK with Twisted.
Those discussions of last year revolved around various integration
levels: moving servlets to resources, for example, but at this point I'd
like to consider Twisted just as an adapter: writing an adapter in
Twisted to marsh
I don't think that there is any such thing. We did a similar search a
couple of years ago; it's pretty hard to remove this kind of thing from
a larger system (say, Zope) as it tends to be pretty framework specific.
Lots of people have rolled their own. We did.
You may look at what Ian has put in
Greg McClure wrote:
I was curious about the maturity and activity on the Webware project. I have
a new project that would benefit a great deal from being implemented in
Python. However a lot of the various frameworks seem to be, well, orphaned
or not very active. That's a concern because I don't wa
I'm not sure what the *best* solution to that is, but if you've got
something that you like, and are merely having trouble with the blank
page, I can help.
self.endResponse() simply stops output; it doesn't send a redirect
message to the browser.
You want "self.sendRedirectAndEnd()" which you
Ian Bicking wrote:
Actions are always -- that's what defaultAction is there for.
I don't think so. Actions only happen when there's _action_XXX in the
request. But maybe you've changed this behavior.
from Servlet.py (CVS):
Great! But this is not what is in the current version. I was talking
a
Ian Bicking wrote:
I don't think this is new to CVS, but I don't have a copy of 0.8.1
handy, and CVS history still scares me ;) It's at the end of
Page.respond, where if no actions are found it calls defaultAction --
Yeah, I checked. It's not there. Only actions registered in actions()
are lo
Ian Bicking wrote:
We have defaultAction now. It's only wonky because it doesn't call
preAction/postAction, where all other actions do. But if we get rid
of those, then it's not a problem. Anyway, defaultAction now just
calls writeHTML.
I don't think output is an action. Output is always; ac
Here is a proposal:
1. having a "default action" construct that defaults to None, but can be
set in a SitePage. If an action is in the request, it's run instead of
default.
2. There be a method in page that sets a redirect address, but DOES NOT
end the transaction. I suggest .setRedirectURI( )
Ian Bicking wrote:
I use 3 too, though I've sometimes added a "self.setup()" to my
SitePage, and allowed servlets to override that instead of awake.
It's more consistent because it has no trans argument, and I
Agreed. We like that pattern, too. It's just basically adding a
"postAwake" into th
Ian Bicking wrote:
Where it gets all annoying, though, is preAction and postAction, which
are like an anemic form of the writeHTML, writeHead, writeTitle,
writeStyleSheet etc. setup that Page has for normal requests. Or,
where you don't want to write anything, but way to treat the action as
a
Ian Bicking wrote:
If you're using Page.sendRedirectAndEnd it won't be a problem -- that
immediately terminates the request. (I think it still calls sleep,
but that's it)
Yeah, that's new. We are using it, but it's weirdly inconsistent and
changes behavior depending on when it is called. There
Ian Bicking wrote:
I haven't been using actions very much up until now, but I used them
in the Wiki and found the method layout to be suboptimal. I think
other people have had the same experience.
Yep. We've been grouchy about this for a couple of years. We made very
similar changes to what yo
I like the design, but the small versions don't read well. They'll
probably need to be adapted so that the reversed text is either axed or
legible. And maybe a crop-in on the snake's face for the small one, for
the same reason.
This is pretty SOP for folks who do identity design (as you probabl
We've seen this, too. It's a long-standing bug.
Basically, our theory was that the app server keeps trying to send the
output data, even when the connection has been lost. You'll see one of
those messages for each "chunk" of data, 'till the buffer is empty.
We got around this by moving huge bin
Ian Bicking wrote:
If it's the browser, I sometimes force a real refresh by putting some
random number in a variable in the URL, e.g., somepage?z=10394.
It's also pretty easy to set http headers that prevent caching:
.setHeader( "Pragma", "no-cache" ) # for http1.0 clients
.setHeader( "Cache-Co
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another thing, how can i have action w/ long name, like this
I can't write the def Save this(self), due to space trouble ..
someone can help me ?
Your action syntax is slightly wrong. (It may be the "old-style" syntax,
though).
The correct syntax is
and then your
Ben Parker wrote:
awake. My view (I'd love to hear others) is that an unhandled exception
in awake() is called a bug and should be fixed in development. I don't want
the framework to force me to write sleep() with extra conditional logic to
avoid clobbering an exception raised from a bug I may cod
Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
That would mean that sleep() has to be coded "defensively" so that it still
works properly even if awake() failed halfway through (which is a change to
current semantics):
I remember that this was basically the result of our discussions, yes.
At the time, I thought it w
Shane Hathaway wrote:
It sounds like a servlet can re-awaken in a different thread from the one
in which it was put to sleep. If that happens, changes made before
sleeping get registered with a different transaction than the transaction
being committed. The new transaction is unaware of the chan
Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
Aha. Exceptions can definitely cause sleep() to be skipped.
If an exception happens during respond() or during awake() then sleep() does
not get called. This smells like a bug to me.
I always thought that this was funny. We wrap up the EndResponse(s) that
we raise wi
Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
I recommend setting those three options to the same value and seeing if your
problem goes away.
We run all of our app servers fixed that way, as per your earlier
advice, actually.
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Ian Bicking wrote:
If it helps, Webware preallocates its threads, and reuses them
indefinitely.
I'm not sure if this is the case if you are running scheduled tasks in
Webware, though I believe that's implemented with a single
preallocated thread as well. Maybe Matt or someone can confirm if
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 02:17:59PM -0500, Geoffrey Talvola wrote:
| No. A servlet will be used in one thread to handle a request, then it will
| be put back into the servlet pool, and later it will be used in another
| thread to handle another request. This is the same on every platform --
| Linu
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:03:00PM -0500, Tim Peters wrote:
| Alas, it wasn't clear in the original report whether threads *are* getting
| created and destroyed, or whether the threads in the pool hang around
| forever. If the latter, it doesn't matter how ofter tids get reused;
| whether on Linux
On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 10:22:13PM -0500, Tim Peters wrote:
| [Matt Feifarek, w/ some ugly thread symptoms seen only on Windows]
|
| Matt, what does this print for you if you run it on your Linux box?
|
| """
| import thread, time
|
| def worker():
| print thread.get_ident(
On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 01:48:48PM -0500, Shane Hathaway wrote:
|
| It sounds like a servlet can re-awaken in a different thread from the one
| in which it was put to sleep. If that happens, changes made before
| sleeping get registered with a different transaction than the transaction
| being co
Hello.
We've run into an interesting problem using ZODB 3.3a2 and Webware
Webkit's threaded application server (http://webware.sourceforge.net) on
Windows (but not Linux).
The symptom that alerted us to the problem was that object attributes
sometimes -- but inconsistently -- failed to be pers
JZ wrote:
I have a problem with dynamic added field to the form. The following
code creates one input field and two submit buttons. I would like to
add more (up to 4) input fields after pressing "more" button. It does
not work and I have no idea how to solve it.
First, you shouldn't test for "i
We had to subclass the Server to get it to pass class instances around.
Something like this:
---
from Webware.MiscUtils.PickleRPC import Server, Transport
class OurServer(Server):
def __init__(self, uri):
Server.__i
Ian Bicking wrote:
On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 02:00 PM, Matt Feifarek wrote:
One major difference seems to be that FFK expects you to use it to
build your form layout as well as the tags and validation methods,
whereas FormKit is less featureful, but (in my opinion) is more
flexible
Randall Randall wrote:
On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 10:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi there,
What's the major difference between FormKit and FunFormKit? Which
form kit should be used?
One major difference seems to be that FFK expects you to use it to
build your form layout as well as
Randall Randall wrote:
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 02:39 PM, Randall Randall wrote:
On Thursday, September 18, 2003, at 12:54 PM, Matt Feifarek wrote:
Randall Randall wrote:
I need to create a number of forms that depend on how
many objects there are to modify. If there are 3, there
Aaron Held wrote:
I'm still not very clear on the "recommended" way to create
forms in awake(), since the way I'm doing it, by manipulating
self._forms, doesn't seem very natural. If this is the right
way, I can create an example for your Examples folder. If
not, and you find the time before
Randall Randall wrote:
This should be no problem; we do it all the time. Just make sure that
you're using different submit methods (actions) for each one.
That seems tricky; I'd had every form using the same submit method
and the method was cycling through every form in self._forms to
find the su
jects into one form?
Look in the examples for the "MultiFormExample.py" and follow that
precedent.
-- Matt Feifarek
dAlchemy
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt, your problem sounds like a simple timeout limitation. Which means it
should be possible to fix via a configuration value or similar.
It seems like it should be that simple, but I'm not sure that the
appserver has any way of knowing that the client has "stopped".
Dietmar Schwertberger wrote:
I can see
StreamOut Error: (10053, 'Software caused connection abort")
in the console window.
I don't have a solution for you, but I can say that we've seen this as
well; we saw it a long time ago, when accidentally serving large binary
files with a servlet. We wo
If I spawn task threads from a Webware applications (say to refresh some
global application object every 10 minutes), it prevents the appserver
from shutting down cleanly.
At least, I think that's the problem.
What's the correct/best way to add our own threads to applications and
still have th
I've been researching a move of my website to Unicode instead of the
Latin-1/Ascii mess that it's now. I realized that WK/FFK may limit
that process; so my question is, is there a way (easy or hard) to have
WK/FFK treat both input and output as unicode? That includes both
Page.write() on the
We've
got a small webware-oriented "unicode howto" that may be instructive:
http://dalchemy.com/opensource/unicodedoc/
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Hello,
I'm wondering how can i handle unicode in webware.
In fact i use openTAL as the template system. but when the template
contain some lati
Ian Bicking wrote:
there when you needed it. It also doesn't force you to make a page
public or not public -- a page could be public sometimes and private
others. The SecurePage style doesn't allow that, and I don't really see
That's a very good point.
If we were to use a separate User/user
Ian Bicking wrote:
Registration and profile editing are both usually application-specific.
I *would* like to have a login built into Webware (WebKit, actually),
and password management would be easy enough too.
That's consistent with our experience with our own "UserAccountKit"
Then we add so
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