David London wrote:
I'd like to start the petition for the release of a new version.I understand your frustration, and I think that in sentiment, you'll get nothing but agreement from this list, but it's not that simple, I'm afraid.
I'm certainly not one of the veterans here, but I've been around since Ww 0.5, and this has been a problem since then.
Since it basically works so well, the luminaries (Chuck, Geoff, Tavis, Ian, etc.) don't seem to need to work on it. Lots of them may use CVS or even self-hacked versions.
Personally, my firm only uses the last release, for reasons similar to what you describe, but as much as I'd love a current release, we're really in no position to "demand" anything unless we step up ourselves. And a "petition" is pretty much that: a demand.
And I'm not comfortable demanding anything of these guys; they've already given us so much. They don't owe us anything. In fact, we probably owe them. If your firm deploys this code to paying clients, why not make it a priority to volunteer some company resources to getting a new release done?
In the past, those guys have asked for volunteer release coordinators. And in the past, people have stepped up to do that. Our firm has considered doing it, but we don't really feel qualified, nor do we have any concept of the time commitment involved. We've never done anything like it before, and we're not such cracker-jack programmers.
So, rather than demand a release from the original authors, let's talk about what a new release would mean (which kits? what features? what version of python is supported? etc.) and how we might go about getting it done.
Some ideas:
* we could start a discussion about what should be included in the next release, and what should not
* we could take up a collection and *hire* one or more of the original authors as consultants to cut a release for the community
* we could again ask for a volunteer
Here's a very out-dated release notes text: http://webware.sourceforge.net/oldsite/Webware-0.8.1/Docs/ReleaseProcedures.html
... my 2 cents
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