Re: [weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[gjr80]

That could well fit the symptoms. I guess just keep an eye on the logs, any 
FTP timeouts etc will show up. Logwatch 
 can useful for picking up 
out of the ordinary log events and providing you with a daily summary by 
email.

Gary

On Thursday, 8 March 2018 10:40:34 UTC+10, Steve2Q wrote:
>
> There was a community wide internet problem today; that may have been the 
> problem. Each time I checked this afternoon it has been ok.
>
> Steve 
>
>

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Re: [weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Steve Meltz]

There was a community wide internet problem today; that may have been the
problem. Each time I checked this afternoon it has been ok.

Steve

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[gjr80]

Hmm, seems all is still not 100%. Looked at your site at 414pm 7 March and all 
was correct (plots and CSS) but then at 416pm the wind vector plot disappeared. 
Back at 418 and 420pm. I am at a loss, nothing worse than a variable 
intermittent problem to try to troubleshoot.

Gary

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Steve2Q]

Gary...subtitle "A complete Mystery"  I decided to follow your lead and try 
to see if my css was not being uploaded to the site. It does appear in the 
*/Weather* directory there. I then decided to use the  *tail -f 
/var/log/syslog  *command to see if there were any errors; I saw none. I 
then set *debug =1 *and looked at *syslog*; again I did not see any ftp 
errors. At this point I still had the stripped webpage. I then decided to 
delete the syslog (I don't know why I decided to do this!). I rebooted the 
system and now the full web page is back!  Maybe there was a hosting error 
which resolved just while I was doing my troubleshooting, or maybe it was 
gremlins!

Again, thanks to you and Andrew for always being willing to lend a hand.

Steve


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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[gjr80]

Judging by the type of errors in the log (timeouts, can't create directory, 
unable to build connection) I would be starting with your hosting provider, 
maybe there is something in the logs on their side. Seems there is an issue 
of some desciption during most report cycles so it should be too hard to 
spot. As for the different appearances, when I visted your site just now 
the weewx.css file could not be found so that fairly much kills all of your 
site formatting leaving you with a very crude text/image layout. Perhaps 
some of the browsers/devices may have cached some files so that may be why 
some have more 'formatting' than others. But going by the logs (small 
random upload failures) I would expect the missing css will shortly be 
uploaded.

Interesting that your gauges seem to be working fine (though it is hard to 
tell if nothing is chnagign regularly) but the gauges don't use FTP to 
upload any files to your host.

Gary

On Wednesday, 7 March 2018 07:06:30 UTC+10, Steve2Q wrote:
>
> Andrew: I just got home and checked the site. There are no longer any 
> missing charts. On my cell phone using Chrome, the site appears as it 
> always has, the "the bells and whistles" version. However, using Firefox on 
> both my phone and Desktop and Chrome on the Desktop it shows as the 
> stripped down version. Must be those net neutrality gremlins!!?
>
> Steve
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Steve2Q]

Andrew: I just got home and checked the site. There are no longer any 
missing charts. On my cell phone using Chrome, the site appears as it 
always has, the "the bells and whistles" version. However, using Firefox on 
both my phone and Desktop and Chrome on the Desktop it shows as the 
stripped down version. Must be those net neutrality gremlins!!?

Steve

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Andrew Milner]

When I checked your site an hour ago I saw what you meant.

When I just checked it again it seems to be working correctly and in full 
colour with all bells and whistles

Have you changed something???



On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 19:04:15 UTC+2, Steve2Q wrote:

> Oh..this is my site, so you can see the display..   
> www.photokinetics.org/Weather What is interesting 
> now is that the displays look very different on my desktop v my cell phone. 
> The phone looks "normal" ie a colored background and all the other typical 
> elements on the weewx standard webpage. On the desktop it appears very 
> different...ie mostly text.
>
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Steve2Q]

Oh..this is my site, so you can see the display..   
www.photokinetics.org/Weather What is interesting 
now is that the displays look very different on my desktop v my cell phone. 
The phone looks "normal" ie a colored background and all the other typical 
elements on the weewx standard webpage. On the desktop it appears very 
different...ie mostly text.


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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Andrew Milner]

I'd blame Trump and his attempts at stopping net equality for all!!  Could 
be the beginnings of multi-tiered internet!!  They have to introduce 
'issues' to persuade the populace to cough up readies for 'better' = what 
we should have = service .



On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 06:57:04 UTC+2, gjr80 wrote:

> Andrew is right, the logs are your friend. you might find it useful to run 
> with debug=1 so you get a bit more details about what (well how many) files 
> are being generated. Are you ftp'ing or rsync'ing to a remote web server or 
> hosting locally, if remote it might be worth seeing what is being 
> ftp'd/rsync'd. If it happens relatively frequently you might need to spend 
> a bith of time in front of a terminal listing the contents of public_html 
> (or wherever) on your weeWX machine to see what is being generated after 
> each cycle.
>
> Unless you are pushing the bounds and your reports are taking nearly as 
> long to process as your archive period it is unlikely the length of your 
> archive period is the issue. Perusing your logs and looking at the typical 
> time taken to generate (and ftp/rsync) all reports/images will give you a 
> feel for whether this may be a problem.
>
> Be interesting if it is a browser caching issue, seems odd though, as 
> there appears to have been a number of these issues recently.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 13:43:24 UTC+10, Steve2Q wrote:
>>
>> Hi: in the last few days I noticed that some charts are not always 
>> visible, but this is seemingly random; sometimes they are all there then 
>> there may be one or more missing with just the names showing (see picture). 
>> I have a 2 minute archive interval, and sometimes one or more intervals may 
>> go by before the web page updates. However no data appears to be 
>> lost..there are no gaps in the charts. Where would be a good starting point 
>> to start troubleshooting?
>>
>> Thanks, Steve
>>
>>
>>

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[gjr80]

Andrew is right, the logs are your friend. you might find it useful to run 
with debug=1 so you get a bit more details about what (well how many) files 
are being generated. Are you ftp'ing or rsync'ing to a remote web server or 
hosting locally, if remote it might be worth seeing what is being 
ftp'd/rsync'd. If it happens relatively frequently you might need to spend 
a bith of time in front of a terminal listing the contents of public_html 
(or wherever) on your weeWX machine to see what is being generated after 
each cycle.

Unless you are pushing the bounds and your reports are taking nearly as 
long to process as your archive period it is unlikely the length of your 
archive period is the issue. Perusing your logs and looking at the typical 
time taken to generate (and ftp/rsync) all reports/images will give you a 
feel for whether this may be a problem.

Be interesting if it is a browser caching issue, seems odd though, as there 
appears to have been a number of these issues recently.

Gary

On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 13:43:24 UTC+10, Steve2Q wrote:
>
> Hi: in the last few days I noticed that some charts are not always 
> visible, but this is seemingly random; sometimes they are all there then 
> there may be one or more missing with just the names showing (see picture). 
> I have a 2 minute archive interval, and sometimes one or more intervals may 
> go by before the web page updates. However no data appears to be 
> lost..there are no gaps in the charts. Where would be a good starting point 
> to start troubleshooting?
>
> Thanks, Steve
>
>
>

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[weewx-user] Re: Graphs not always visible, skips archive interval, no data loss

[Andrew Milner]

A good place to start is by looking at the log!!

Depending on the pc/cpu you are using it is possible the report interval is 
too short, and needs to be increased to say 5 minutes.

You could always just try and refresh the page when the plot is 'missing' - 
it could just be a delay in your server delivering the image to the browser



On Tuesday, 6 March 2018 05:43:24 UTC+2, Steve2Q wrote:

> Hi: in the last few days I noticed that some charts are not always 
> visible, but this is seemingly random; sometimes they are all there then 
> there may be one or more missing with just the names showing (see picture). 
> I have a 2 minute archive interval, and sometimes one or more intervals may 
> go by before the web page updates. However no data appears to be 
> lost..there are no gaps in the charts. Where would be a good starting point 
> to start troubleshooting?
>
> Thanks, Steve
>
>
>

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