Re: Version tracking in Wget binaries

2007-10-12 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Among other things, version.c is now generated rather than parsed. Every time make all is run, which also means that make all will always relink the wget binary, even if there haven't been any changes. I personally find that quite annoying. :-( I hope

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Tony Godshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The usefullness is in trying to be unobtrusive to other users. The problem is that Wget simply doesn't have enough information to be unobtrusive. Currently available bandwidth can and does change as new

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Josh Williams
On 10/12/07, Tony Godshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I do not claim to be unobtrusive. Merely to reduce obtrusiveness. I do not and cannot claim to be making wget *nice*, just nicER. You can't deny that dialing back is nicer than not. Personally, I think this is a great idea. But I

Re: wget does not compile with SSL support

2007-10-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Thomas Wolff wrote: So I think it's clear the version thus produced was invoked. Yeah, guess it couldn't be that easy! :) Hm... well, can you verify that src/config.h has been correctly generated to #define HAVE_SSL? If you go to src/ and type rm

Re: wget does not compile with SSL support

2007-10-12 Thread Thomas Wolff
Thomas Wolff wrote: Hi, as requested, I am sending you the output of configure and config.log for checking the problem that my compiled wget does not retrieve over https (Unsupported scheme). Thomas, I don't see that anything went wrong at all with the configuration. This makes me

Re: Version tracking in Wget binaries

2007-10-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hrvoje Niksic wrote: Micah Cowan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Among other things, version.c is now generated rather than parsed. Every time make all is run, which also means that make all will always relink the wget binary, even if there haven't

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/12/07, Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tony Godshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: available bandwidth and adjusts to that. The usefullness is in trying to be unobtrusive to other users. The problem is that Wget simply doesn't have enough information to be unobtrusive.

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Tony Godshall
On 10/12/07, Josh Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/12/07, Tony Godshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I do not claim to be unobtrusive. Merely to reduce obtrusiveness. I do not and cannot claim to be making wget *nice*, just nicER. You can't deny that dialing back is nicer

Re: anyone look at the actual patch? anyone try it? [Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth]

2007-10-12 Thread Jim Wright
I don't want this to spiral down to Micah bashing. He has brought a lot of good energy to the project, and gotten things moving forward nicely. Thanks. I know of instances where this option would be useful for me, and others have chipped in. I think we all agree it isn't perfect and there is no

Re: anyone look at the actual patch? anyone try it? [Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth]

2007-10-12 Thread Tony Godshall
... I guess I'd like to see compile-time options so people could make a tiny version for their embedded system, with most options and all documentation stripped out, and a huge kitchen-sink all-the-bells version and complete documentation for the power user version. I don't think you

Re: anyone look at the actual patch? anyone try it? [Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth]

2007-10-12 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Tony Godshall wrote: [Jim] Well, we need the plugin architecture anyway. There are some planned features (JavaScript and MetaLink support being the main ones) that have no business in Wget proper, as far as I'm concerned, but are inarguably

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Hrvoje Niksic
Tony Godshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My point remains that the maximum initial rate (however you define initial in a protocol as unreliable as TCP/IP) can and will be wrong in a large number of cases, especially on shared connections. Again, would an algorithm where the rate is

Re: working on patch to limit to percent of bandwidth

2007-10-12 Thread Josh Williams
On 10/12/07, Hrvoje Niksic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I don't see the value in attempting to find out the available bandwidth automatically. It seems too error prone, no matter how much heuristics you add into it. --limit-rate works because reading the data more slowly causes it to