Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Szervusz Kristof! Köszönöm, hogy használod a Wicket-et! If you want an example with Hibernate binding, then you might look into the CD-App example. This is probably the most complex example we have to date. This example is not present any more in the CVS HEAD (I think), but should be in the

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Kristof Jozsa
Juergen Donnerstag wrote: A couple of additional questions: - is real Spring-integration (I mean full DI for Pages, not a pull-approach) planned for release 1.0, 1.0.x or 1.1? I saw it getting discussed on this list recently but haven't seen any decisions. wicket-contrib-spring contains two means

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Juergen Donnerstag
- anyone working already on an Eclipse-plugin? :) as with Spindle for Tapestry, I think it could be a big step forward to get more people interested in yet another framework after the first stable release.. I completely agree but until now we focussed on Wicket. Have you done some

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Kristof Jozsa
Juergen Donnerstag wrote: - anyone working already on an Eclipse-plugin? :) as with Spindle for Tapestry, I think it could be a big step forward to get more people interested in yet another framework after the first stable release.. I completely agree but until now we focussed on Wicket. Have you

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Jonathan Locke
even the simplest of the ideas you listed below would be super neat! as far as page navigation goes, i have a few comments... if it helps any, i believe this is not going to be any /long term/ trouble. right now, i would not base a million dollar large-scale web app on wicket... but i believe

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
A page is instantiated when: - you clicked a bookmarkable link (e.g. http://localhost:8080/wicket-examples/navomatic?bookmarkablePage=wicket.examples.navomatic.Page2); - you went to the Home page; - you instantiated it yourself or had a page factory instantiate it, e.g. by using a PageLink or

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
You're not? We do. Though the web application part is just a part of the whole, we're using Wicket for our 7 man year + project right now. The fact that we don't have javascript support etc. build in yet, doesn't mean it is not useable. You can do Javascript, AJAX, whatever right now if you

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Gili
Err, sorry to interject but I also feel that we don't do enough large-scale development on Wicket. Eelco, I understand you have been using Wicket for your project but that is one person doing one project and over the past few months we've run into a lot of issues that make it clear that

Re: [Wicket-user] wicket 1.1 and Ajax

2005-03-29 Thread Chris Turner
Hi All, Having spent a couple of days investigating ajax (to meet some requirements that we have in a struts application for one of my customers) I decided to take a good look that the Echo2 stuff. Here are my thoughts: I'm not sure that the Echo2 stuff is actually targeting the right end use

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Gili, You are contradicting yourself. First you say that Wicket isn't ready for production use, and then you say some big ass companies need to use it. Guess what, those big ass companies aren't going to use Wicket when we keep saying that Wicket isn't ready for production use. Furthermore, the

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Gili
Martijn Dashorst wrote: Gili, You are contradicting yourself. First you say that Wicket isn't ready for production use, and then you say some big ass companies need to use it. Guess what, those big ass companies aren't going to use Wicket when we keep saying that Wicket isn't ready for production

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Eelco Hillenius
First, did you used packaged images in your JSP? Guess not. The resources had an issue. But that's fixed - again. And what gives you any idea about what we're using in our applications? The app I have been working on in a team of three pretty much uses all of the HTML components there are,

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Jonathan Locke
Gili wrote: Err, sorry to interject but I also feel that we don't do enough large-scale development on Wicket. Eelco, I understand you have been using Wicket for your project but that is one person doing one project and over the past few months we've run into a lot of issues that make it

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Jonathan Locke
gili, i really think most of your problem is that you don't really understand where wicket is now. it's been rapidly changing underneath you until the last couple of days. we've discovered and solved /all/ of these problems you've run into. and if we haven't please bug your problem

Re: [Wicket-user] Page instantiation

2005-03-29 Thread Martijn Dashorst
Gili wrote: I think it is safe to say that I am talking about Wicket as I have seen it last: which is version 0.9.19 and a little peeks into CVS. Anytime I discuss anything about it, I am discussing based upon public releases. I don't expect that to change. OK, then we are clear about that.