Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-13 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva
12.09.2017, 18:48 +04:00 from Abderrahmane Reggad : >Therefore I was satisfied with the study of the 3 configurations (nm, fm and >afmi) to find the afmI phase to be the most stable. Then I do not understand: your "afmi" in fact becomes nonmagnetic, and its energy should be equal to nm case. Bes

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thank you Gerhard for your advise I read and I understand What do you think if using the empirical parameters known give you calculated values for band gap and magnetic moment ten times or more than the experimental one. Before using my value for alpha parameter, I used the alpha value equal to

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Abderrahmane Reggad [jazai...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. September 2017 16:57 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide Hi Martin I still confus

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Lyudmila I have forgotten to add the article link http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921452617303915 ___ Wien mailing list Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at/mailman/listinfo/wien SEARCH the MAILING-LIST

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Martin I still confused and not convinced with my results. It's not the band gap of NiS to take as the only criterion for the choice of the amount of excact exchange, but also the experimental values of magnetic moment. This amount allows me to get magnetic moment values close to the experimen

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Lyudmila in the following article I studied the 3 different possible orderings for the NiAs structure for the NiS compound and I found that the I-type order is the most stable which is consistent which all theoritical and experimental results. It's found also that all transition metal compoun

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread Lyudmila Dobysheva
11.09.2017, 17:24 +04:00 from Abderrahmane Reggad : I have repeated the calculation using ec and cc criterion equal to 0.1 and 0.0001 respectively and I have found the magnetic moment to be lesser with the value of 0.0002 MB. Maybe I missed the point in your discussion but I'd like to make

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-12 Thread pieper
Hi, A. Reggad There are no questions in your last posts so the case seems to be closed. However, I am curious, and there seems to be something to learn in addition to the nice comments made by G. Fecher: First, is the band gap (of NiS) really a good observable to fix the HF mixing (for VS)

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-11 Thread Laurence Marks
The only point I was making was that you have to be able to justify whatever fraction is used. On Sep 11, 2017 2:55 PM, "Abderrahmane Reggad" wrote: > Hi Laurence > > The amount of 0.05 of exact exchange is the value that gives a gap value > equal to the experimental one for nickel sulphide and

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-11 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Laurence The amount of 0.05 of exact exchange is the value that gives a gap value equal to the experimental one for nickel sulphide and close values for magnetic moments for some 3d transition metal sulphides like CrS, FeS, CoS and NiS. You can check my article about the nickel sulphide http:

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-11 Thread Laurence Marks
Why are you using 0.05 for the amount of exact exchange? You must justify that this is valid (you, not me). On Sep 11, 2017 2:24 PM, "Abderrahmane Reggad" wrote: > Hi all > > I have repeated the calculation using ec and cc criterion equal to 0.1 > and 0.0001 respectively and I have found the

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-11 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi all I have repeated the calculation using ec and cc criterion equal to 0.1 and 0.0001 respectively and I have found the magnetic moment to be lesser with the value of 0.0002 MB. Here are the input files VS.struct *** VS-hex H LATTICE,NONEQUIV.ATOMS: 3 164_P-3m1 MODE OF CALC=R

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-10 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Before doing the calculation again with the new energy and charge criterion I let you this old article http://journals.jps.jp/doi/abs/10.1143/JPSJ.14.196 Best regards ___ Wien mailing list Wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at http://zeus.theochem.tuwien.

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-08 Thread Laurence Marks
es Gutenberg - University > 55099 Mainz > and > Max Planck Institute for Chemical Physics of Solids > 01187 Dresden > > Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Gavin > Abo [gs...@crimson.ua.edu] > Gesendet

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-08 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Abderrahmane Reggad [jazai...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. September 2017 17:11 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide Hi All I have used the PBE+EECC calculation for 3 configura

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-08 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
87 Dresden Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Gavin Abo [gs...@crimson.ua.edu] Gesendet: Freitag, 8. September 2017 03:14 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadiu

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Gavin Abo
Perhaps the -ec 0.001 and -cc 0.001 are too large of values. As I recall, to be well-converged, it is usually best to use about the default values seen in the post [1] or WIEN2k 17.1 usersguide [2] as: -cc 0.0001 -ec 0.0001 It sounded like about the default value for -ec was good unless some

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread E.A.Moore
[mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of Abderrahmane Reggad Sent: 07 September 2017 16:11 To: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Subject: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide Hi All I have used the PBE+EECC calculation for 3 configurations: nm, fm

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi All I have used the PBE+EECC calculation for 3 configurations: nm, fm and afm I and I found that the afm I is the most stable. The energy criterion and charge are 0.001 Ry and 0.001 e respectively. I don't worry about if the material is really antiferromagnetic or paramagnetic because of: 1-

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Gerhard 1- The charge criterion was 0.001 e 2- I didn't started from a converged PBE calculation 3- The amount of exact exchange use leads for results consistent with experiment for the other 4 compounds. 5- Geometrical optimization leads to AFM 1 to be the most stable 6- i found only experimen

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Gavin Abo
The problem is that I want to know if it's possible to get a such value of 0.05 MB for atomic magnetic moment for the AFM state of vanadium sulphide in NiAs structure. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe you are saying that you opened the case.scf file in a text editor or did a "grep -e :

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread pieper
: 07 September 2017 08:12 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Subject: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide 0.05 muB does not mean that it is antiferromagnetic ! what was your charge convergence criterion ? You did never answer my question whether you started th

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread E.A.Moore
t: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide Sorry but there is obviously a lot of nonsense in the comments where you should first think about: Please explain why a spin polarized calculation will always result in a ferromagnetic (or antiferromagnetic) state ? How d

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread pieper
Your problem is 'if it's possible to get' AF VS with 0.05 mu_B/Vanadium in DFT? IF (capitals are on purpose here) you did everything right to properly converge your calculations to the necessary numerical precision, then you give the answer yourself: Yes, it is possible if one uses GGA+U or +EE

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von E.A.Moore [e.a.mo...@open.ac.uk] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. September 2017 11:02 An: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide I have been following this thread and I think there is

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread E.A.Moore
- From: Wien [mailto:wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] On Behalf Of Fecher, Gerhard Sent: 07 September 2017 08:12 To: A Mailing list for WIEN2k users Subject: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide 0.05 muB does not mean that it is antiferromagnetic ! what was

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-07 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
6 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide Hi Martin The problem is that I want to know if it's possible to get a such value of 0.05 MB for atomic magnetic moment for the AFM state of vanadium sulphide in NiAs structu

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-06 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Hi Martin The problem is that I want to know if it's possible to get a such value of 0.05 MB for atomic magnetic moment for the AFM state of vanadium sulphide in NiAs structure. Hafner and Hobbs have found all the calculations converged to the non magnetic state because they have used the GGA met

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-06 Thread pieper
I took an admittedly brief look at your link, and I still don't understand where your problem really is. I have made calculations for 5 3d transition metal sulphides with the method PBE+EECE and I have found that all the results are ok with the exception of the vanadium sulphide. I have made

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-05 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
I have made calculations for 5 3d transition metal sulphides with the method PBE+EECE and I have found that all the results are ok with the exception of the vanadium sulphide. I have made 3 calculations (nm, fm and afmI ) to determine the magnetic state for all the compounds and I found them to ha

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-05 Thread pieper
cal Physics of Solids 01187 Dresden Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Abderrahmane Reggad [jazai...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. September 2017 00:29 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic momen

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-04 Thread Fecher, Gerhard
Physics of Solids 01187 Dresden Von: Wien [wien-boun...@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at] im Auftrag von Abderrahmane Reggad [jazai...@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 5. September 2017 00:29 An: wien@zeus.theochem.tuwien.ac.at Betreff: Re: [Wien] About the magnetic

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-04 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Thanks martin Experimentally they found that the vanadium sulphide is a pauli paramagnetic but I have found it to be antiferromagnetic like other transition metal sulphides but the magnetic moment value equals almost zero despite the fact that vanadium has 3 inpaired electrons. Best regards _

Re: [Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-02 Thread pieper
Be aware that Hund's rules do rest on certain assumptions about the relative strength of intra- and inter-atomic couplings. There are, after all, a lot of para- or diamagnetic materials around. Try to look that up. Is your Vanadium sulphide magnetically ordered from experiment? In your case th

[Wien] About the magnetic moment of vanadium in vanadium sulphide

2017-09-02 Thread Abderrahmane Reggad
Dear wien2k users I have calculated the magnetic moment of vanadium sulphide in NiAs structure using the EECE méthod with alpha parameter equals to 0.05. despite the fact that the number of inpariated electrons is equal to 3 I found that the magnetic moment of vanadium is equal to 0.05 MB which