Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

For fellow newbies, to activate these user scripts 1. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tools/User_scripts 2. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:MyPage/common.js 3. Search for Magnus' scripts 4. click on "Create" at top right 5. paste script i.e., importScript( 'User:Magnus_Manske/dragref.j

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

These are great -- and love the videos. THANK YOU -- dreams can come true! :-) - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Sure, maybe it gets more people involved in coding as well. Ha

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

Three cheers for these scripts, Magnus! Scott On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Magnus Manske wrote: > OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, > it lets you > *drag'n'drop references between statements > *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

My concern is that I don't want to bring up anything that might be even a little negative or critical -- as I think this is a delicate issue that could have a real blow-back effect on Wikidata. It would be framed from a constructive perspective, and would reference these upcoming tools, but what h

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Sure, maybe it gets more people involved in coding as well. Having thigs > show up in a "proper" way after dropping would be nice, but I'd have no idea > where to start. Ok If you write down what the exact issue is maybe Thiemo, Jonas, Adrian

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

Sure, maybe it gets more people involved in coding as well. Having thigs show up in a "proper" way after dropping would be nice, but I'd have no idea where to start. Speaking of: Do I suggest that new gadget on Phabricator, or a Wikidata page? Actually, I made that script a while ago, but it broke

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:25 PM Lydia Pintscher wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske > wrote: > > The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on > it > > for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is > nothing > > equivalent in WMF

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, it > lets you > *drag'n'drop references between statements > *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto statements > *drag'n'drop Wikipedia links a

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

OK, this thread seems appropriate, so I just fixed up one of my scripts, it lets you *drag'n'drop references between statements *drag'n'drop URL references from Wikipedia (sidebar preview) onto statements *drag'n'drop Wikipedia links as new statements (asks for a property to use) https://www.wikid

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on it > for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is nothing > equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK. The Wikidata UI is > improved c

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

The Visual editor has a whole UI team behind it, who've been working on it for years. Yes, citations are only a small part of it, but there is nothing equivalent in WMF or German chapter for Wikidata, AFAIK. The Wikidata UI is improved constantly, but I don't think there is anyone, let alone a whol

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

These are great, important suggestions. But like with the library science resources, it seems like Wikidata is again trying to re-invent an existing wheel. Why are the existing tools in Wikipedia not being migrated and/or pathway'd into Wikidata? The stripping of Wikipedia citations to push it to W

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

I sometimes feel that I need a "citation needed" button on claims. :) /Finn On 07/07/2016 04:12 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve Wikidata. One component here wou

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

While the proposal of all statements requiring citation is obviously overshooting, I believe we all agree that more/better citations improve Wikidata. One component here would be a social one, namely that it first becomes good practice, then the default, to cite statements. For that, improved techn

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Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

I understand the intention behind the RFC but it's pretty clear that if enforced these changes would effectively ruin Wikidata. This underlying issue is that Wikidata does not have a good enough mechanism to fully cite the way Wikipedia does, and even Wikipedia does not require the type of granular

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Hoi, Thanks for pointing this out. If this is to be our policy it will destroy our data and the commitment of many of our regular and trusted contributors. Thanks, GerardM On 7 July 2016 at 11:39, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The current RfC: > > > https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_

[Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

The current RfC: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Requests_for_comment/Verifiability_and_living_persons would make massive changes to the way Wikidata operates (for all content, not just that about living people) Very few people have commented. I urge everyone to read the proposals, an