[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T341781: Show structured data by default

[Spinster]

Spinster merged a task: T362476: Show wikitext and structured data on one 
screen (structured data not in a separate tab).

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Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, 
GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, 
Akuckartz, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, 
SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, KimKelting, Tramullas, Acer, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T244847: Future of the OpenRefine Wikidata reconciliation interface

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  After hearing reconciliation service (re)users, hearing emerging ideas, and 
seeing the reality of the Wikimedia movement's capacities, I decided to also 
create this ticket: T362149: Alternative, affordable, lower-barrier 
approach(es) to reconciliation <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T362149>

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  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244847

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GFontenelle_WMF, jdtoy, SandraF_WMF, JeanFred, Fuzheado, Eugene233, 
PabloCastellano, Loz.ross, RShigapov, Spinster, Samantha_Alipio_WMDE, 
WMDE-leszek, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Abbe98, tfmorris, David_Haskiya_WMSE, 
Lokal_Profil, Mvolz, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Regisrob, Pintoch, Aklapper, 
Danny_Benjafield_WMDE, S8321414, Astuthiodit_1, AWesterinen, karapayneWMDE, 
Invadibot, maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Thadguidry, 
Tore_Danielsson_WMSE, Nandana, Namenlos314, Lahi, Gq86, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T341781: Show structured data by default

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  Showing the structured data by default (not in a separate tab) would IMO very 
much help with its broader adoption.

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To: Spinster
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GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, 
Akuckartz, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, 
SandraF_WMF, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, 
Silverfish, _jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Fuzheado, Jane023, 
Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, Ricordisamoa, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337106: Faceted, structured data-based MediaSearch on Wikimedia Commons

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  Related:
  
  - T326244: Investigate using Search API Facets from ElasticSearch 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T326244>
  - T251573: (Tool idea) Build a prototype / proof of concept faceted search 
for Structured Data on Commons <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T251573> (I 
also created that ticket a few years ago but I am certainly thinking I want 
more than prototyping and more than an external tool)

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  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337106

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Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 
Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, 
rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Fuzheado, 
Wikidata-bugs, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Lydia_Pintscher, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337106: Faceted, structured data-based MediaSearch on Wikimedia Commons

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  Also mentioned this ticket on the general SDC talk page: 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data#Faceted,_SDC-powered_MediaSearch_for_Wikimedia_Commons

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To: Spinster
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Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 
Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, 
rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Fuzheado, 
Wikidata-bugs, aude, Daniel_Mietchen, El_Grafo, Dinoguy1000, Lydia_Pintscher, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275787: Faceted search for Commons location of creation

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  Created overarching task for faceted search. I would really like to see that 
implemented and it would be great to get a conversation going: T337106: 
Faceted, structured data-based MediaSearch on Wikimedia Commons 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T337106>

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275787

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To: Spinster
Cc: Jheald, ChristianFerrer, Aklapper, Gehel, dcausse, CBogen, JeanFred, 
Spinster, Husky, Keegan, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Lokal_Profil, Multichill, 
Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, toberto, Invadibot, GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, 
Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, 
JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, 
_jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, 
Wong128hk, Fuzheado, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T337106: Faceted, structured data-based MediaSearch on Wikimedia Commons

[Spinster]

Spinster added projects: Commons, Wikidata.

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Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 
Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, LawExplorer, _jensen, 
rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Ixocactus, Wong128hk, Fuzheado, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T275787: Faceted search for Commons location of creation

[Spinster]

Spinster added a parent task: T337106: Faceted, structured data-based 
MediaSearch on Wikimedia Commons.

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T275787

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To: Spinster
Cc: Jheald, ChristianFerrer, Aklapper, Gehel, dcausse, CBogen, JeanFred, 
Spinster, Husky, Keegan, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Lokal_Profil, Multichill, 
Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, toberto, Invadibot, GFontenelle_WMF, maantietaja, 
Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, Nandana, 
JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Ramsey-WMF, Cparle, SandraF_WMF, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, 
_jensen, rosalieper, Taiwania_Justo, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Ixocactus, 
Wong128hk, Fuzheado, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T244847: Future of the OpenRefine Wikidata reconciliation interface

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  In T244847#8502964 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244847#8502964>, 
@Pintoch wrote:
  
  > Here is the current status of this issue:
  >
  > The team at TIB (headed by @Loz.ross) is now maintaining the current 
wrapper and has contributed improvements to deploy it on other Wikibase 
instances:
  > https://gitlab.com/nfdi4culture/ta1-data-enrichment/openrefine-wikibase
  > Thank you to them!
  
  So the Wikidata reconciliation service currently falls under the 
responsibility of a German research group... I know TIB does amazing work for 
the Wikibase ecosystem (thank you indeed @Loz.ross and colleagues) but for 
Wikidata, this surely is a weird situation.
  If I'd have the money and the people, I'd jump to help, but I don't.
  
  > Prompted by the bad performance of this endpoint, Ontotext offers alternate 
endpoints for certain entity types, powered by their own search index over 
Wikidata. This video explains their approach 
<https://www.ontotext.com/knowledgehub/videos/kgf21-talks-reconciliation-server-demonstration-against-wikidata/>.
 The endpoints are:
  >
  > - https://reconcile.ontotext.com/people
  > - https://reconcile.ontotext.com/organizations
  > - https://reconcile.ontotext.com/locations
  >
  > Thank you Ontotext (@VladimirAlexiev among others).
  
  I, too, have been very enthusiastic seeing this initiative. However, I've 
tried the Ontotext reconciliation service several times, and I've had quite a 
few issues with it:
  
  - it produces *a lot* of wrong matches for me. Up to 30 to 40% of the "100% 
confident" matches are just plain wrong (see screenshot below - I just tried it 
again)
  - the service provides only 3 suggested matches when it's uncertain, and 
these tend to be wrong as well, even if a correct value is present (see second 
screenshot)
  
  F36869693: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F36869693>
  F36869695: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F36869695>
  I would currently not use the Ontotext alternatives for any real world 
application for that reason, and I have discouraged trainees from the GLAM 
sector from using them. (The 'old' Wikidata reconciliation service works much 
better and is still extremely workable when it's up, in my experience.)
  @VladimirAlexiev can such issues be reported somewhere, and if so where? Is 
Ontotext willing and able to improve upon the above services?

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  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244847

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To: Spinster
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JeanFred, Fuzheado, Eugene233, PabloCastellano, Loz.ross, RShigapov, Spinster, 
Samantha_Alipio_WMDE, WMDE-leszek, Addshore, Lydia_Pintscher, Abbe98, tfmorris, 
David_Haskiya_WMSE, Lokal_Profil, Mvolz, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Regisrob, 
Pintoch, Aklapper, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, maantietaja, 
ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Thadguidry, Tore_Danielsson_WMSE, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T194767: Set up OpenRefine on Cloud VPS

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  Yay! So many kudos to everyone who helps with the #paws 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/paws/> version of OpenRefine! 

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To: Spinster
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Pintoch, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, 
maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T194767: Set up OpenRefine on Cloud VPS

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  Is this task still valid? Does it make sense to do "other OpenRefine cloud 
Wikimedia things" besides the PAWS installation?

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Pintoch, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, 
maantietaja, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Nandana, Lahi, Gq86, GoranSMilovanovic, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T188291: Display point features (coordinates) from the results of a SPARQL query on a map in Wikipedia

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  It's possible, but not straightforward. With a few Wikimedians we're trying 
to figure it out.
  
  Examples for now:
  
  - Second map at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Spinster/Map_test has 
colored pins and small cards (no images)
  - https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anv%C3%A4ndare:Ainali/kartographer uses map 
pin symbols, colors, cards that include images
  
  I would also like to include links to Wikipedia articles but am stuck. I have 
requested SPARQL help at 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Request_a_query#Help_with_a_SPARQL_query_for_Kartographer
  
  I can imagine a big collection of Kartographer-SPARQL examples would make 
sense; the examples at 
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:Kartographer#Via_Wikidata_query 
are good but not enough to help people like me to build things with confidence.

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T188291

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To: ECohen_WMDE, Spinster
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Sabas88, CamelCaseNick, Ainali, Rehman, Spinster, Laurentius, Yair_rand, 
MSantos, Liuxinyu970226, Capankajsmilyo, Haros, putnik, Evad37, Jonas, Yurik, 
Aklapper, Ayack, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, AWesterinen, karapayneWMDE, 
Invadibot, MPhamWMF, maantietaja, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Alilje, 
Nabetaro, Nandana, Namenlos314, Lahi, Gq86, Looniverse, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, 
GoranSMilovanovic, Sturm, QZanden, EBjune, Orienteerix, merbst, LawExplorer, 
Ddproxy, _jensen, rosalieper, JGirault, Scott_WUaS, phabyogi, Xmlizer, 
GAllegre, Susannaanas, ferdbold, lxbarth, jkroll, Planemad, Wikidata-bugs, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T188291: Display point features (coordinates) from the results of a SPARQL query on a map in Wikipedia

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  I did a quick test, here's a very simple one I just created! 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Spinster/Map_test

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To: ECohen_WMDE, Spinster
Cc: Abbe98, Conny, Theklan, ECohen_WMDE, Larske, Dipsacus_fullonum, Sabas88, 
CamelCaseNick, Ainali, Rehman, Spinster, Laurentius, Yair_rand, MSantos, 
Liuxinyu970226, Capankajsmilyo, Haros, putnik, Evad37, Jonas, Yurik, Aklapper, 
Ayack, mrephabricator, Astuthiodit_1, AWesterinen, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, 
MPhamWMF, maantietaja, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Akuckartz, Alilje, Nabetaro, 
Nandana, Namenlos314, Lahi, Gq86, Looniverse, Lucas_Werkmeister_WMDE, 
GoranSMilovanovic, Sturm, QZanden, EBjune, Orienteerix, merbst, LawExplorer, 
Ddproxy, _jensen, rosalieper, JGirault, Scott_WUaS, phabyogi, Xmlizer, 
GAllegre, Susannaanas, ferdbold, lxbarth, jkroll, Planemad, Wikidata-bugs, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T181062: Adapt QuickStatements2 to be able to work with structured data on Commons as well

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  FYI, #openrefine <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openrefine/> is (as 
of its version 3.6) now also able to batch add #structureddataoncommons 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/structureddataoncommons/> to Wikimedia 
Commons files. Version 3.7 will do batch uploads too. See 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:OpenRefine for more info.
  
  Lookup of M-ids (and retrieval of Wikitext and existing SDC statement values) 
is now possible there thanks to the Wikimedia Commons Reconciliation Service, 
see also #reconciliation 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/reconciliation/>. 
https://commonsreconcile.toolforge.org
  
  That said, QuickStatements remains a very useful tool for batch editing SDC 
too, especially for larger batches I think.

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181062

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To: Spinster
Cc: So9q, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Magnus, David_Haskiya_WMSE, matthiasmullie, 
Spinster, Multichill, Husky, Jheald, Ramsey-WMF, ChristianKl, Abit, Aklapper, 
SandraF_WMF, Astuthiodit_1, karapayneWMDE, Invadibot, GFontenelle_WMF, 
maantietaja, FRomeo_WMF, Zblace, CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, 
Tore_Danielsson_WMSE, Nandana, JKSTNK, Lahi, Gq86, E1presidente, Cparle, 
GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, Tramullas, Acer, LawExplorer, Salgo60, Silverfish, 
_jensen, rosalieper, Scott_WUaS, Susannaanas, Fuzheado, Jane023, Wikidata-bugs, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T237991: Changes to Structured Data on Commons should trigger page refresh

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  I have discovered this bug too, while testing SDC edits with #openrefine 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openrefine/>. See this discussion on 
Multichill's talk page 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Multichill#Category:INaturalist_images_missing_SDC_depicts_may_need_a_poke>.
  
  As I understand correctly, to circumvent this issue, we would need to 
introduce null edits into OpenRefine that trigger a page update.
  
  Maintenance categories like these are very helpful to discover SDC batch 
editing related tasks, and I think it would be great if it can be fixed on the 
Commons side.

TASK DETAIL
  https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T237991

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To: Spinster
Cc: Spinster, matmarex, Schlurcher, Keegan, Cparle, Multichill, matthiasmullie, 
Ramsey-WMF, AntiCompositeNumber, Tgr, Addshore, Jarekt, Aklapper, 
Astuthiodit_1, VPuffetMichel, karapayneWMDE, ycrepeau, toberto, Invadibot, 
GFontenelle_WMF, Mohammadmalek554, maantietaja, Y.ssk, FRomeo_WMF, Muchiri124, 
CBogen, ItamarWMDE, Nintendofan885, Akuckartz, keithbrianpadilla, 
Saimongoltinio, WikimeSteve, ppelberg, Nandana, JKSTNK, marcella, Revansx, 
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T297995: Remove authentication from Wikimedia Commons Query Services (WCQS)

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  FYI, #OpenRefine <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/openrefine/> will 
likely implement a SPARQL importer in the upcoming time (May-August 2022) 
through an Outreachy internship 
<https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/1212>. Many OpenRefine users 
have requested to make it possible to start OpenRefine projects from a SPARQL 
query.
  
  I have explicitly asked to also investigate if it is even possible for us to 
start a project from a WCQS query. 
<https://github.com/OpenRefine/OpenRefine/issues/4812> In our user research (as 
part of the Wikimedia-funded project to include Wikimedia Commons 
functionalities in OpenRefine 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/CS%26S/Structured_Data_on_Wikimedia_Commons_functionalities_in_OpenRefine>),
 Wikimedia Commons users have asked for this feature.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T244847: Future of the OpenRefine Wikidata reconciliation interface

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: Wikidata edits are throttled after using TABernacle tool

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  I have updated the task name and description, also tagging @Magnus. Not sure 
where exactly this issue can be fixed.
  
  I also discovered this ticket: T243151: Should Tabernacle be viewed as an 
automatic tool? <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243151> - no idea if this 
is related at all.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: Wikidata edits are throttled after using TABernacle tool

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: Wikidata edits are throttled after using TABernacle tool

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again..." to "Wikidata edits are throttled after using TABernacle tool".
Spinster updated the task description.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T257405: wdreconcile.toolforge.org acting as though HTTP 502 Gateway errors are cached

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  I'm doing some cleanup of OpenRefine tasks in preparation for new development 
related to #structureddataoncommons 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/structureddataoncommons/>  (see this 
page 
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Structured_Data_on_Wikimedia_Commons_functionalities_in_OpenRefine>
 for more context) and I wonder if this issue is still relevant, or if this 
task can be closed?
  
  https://wdreconcile.toolforge.org is deprecated and 
https://wikidata.reconci.link is its replacement for a while already.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: My Wikidata edits are getting throttled again...

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  July 7, 2021: it has happened again. I have just used TABernacle 
<https://tabernacle.toolforge.org/> for just a few edits to several labels, and 
I think I've heard that I'm not the only one having this throttling issue right 
after using this tool.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282719: Wikidata tool request: Users can enter an ISBN to see if a Wikidata item exists, if not it makes a new one based on the data available (works like 'Cite' tool on W

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  In T282719#7088419 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282719#7088419>, 
@John_Cummings wrote:
  
  > Hi Sandra
  >
  > I've updated the description to include the FRBR model as the basis for 
creating and matching items. Is it logic to say that new items the based on 
ISBN number (or other similar ID) should be Instance='edition' in Wikidata?
  
  No, you're trying to simplify something that is not that simple.
  
  On Wikipedia, which only uses text strings, I guess it's fine to take an ISBN 
number and then use a database to look it up and retrieve strings of text to 
build up a (single) reference. On Wikidata, where we are dealing with 
multilingual structured data, a 'book' is a cluster of sometimes dozens of 
multilingual layered entities.
  
  To make it very clear, as I think I didn't succeed in doing that with my 
earlier comment: I think it is NOT a good idea to ask for a tool for this. It's 
not simple matter that should be automated. This is stuff that needs 
knowledgeable human review.
  
  If someone has a ISBN number and wants to 'have that ISBN on Wikidata', they 
should need to do at least the following checks (and this list is 
non-exhaustive; I'm actually not a librarian so I will probably miss important 
things and get some things wrong):
  
  - Is there already any work-level and/or edition-level item that corresponds 
with the book? If so, any new items need to correspond correctly with the 
existing ones. If not, new items need to be created for both levels.
  - A check needs to happen whether the ISBN is of a translation. Maybe we 
already have Wikidata items for the (original language) work, and/or for an 
edition of a translation in another language. If that is the case, correct 
connections need to be made.
  - The book needs *both* a work-level item and an edition-level item. (This is 
exactly what FRBR is about.)
  - Both the work item and the edition item need the correct statements in the 
right place: author, publisher, date of publication and other metadata. 
Correctly. I don't know of any centralized databases that get this stuff right 
where we can retrieve this; this step probably needs deeper human research than 
just a check with a (any) database. Worldcat is (in my experience) pretty messy 
at this point so please do NOT use Worldcat as a sole source.
  - If lookups on Wikidata need to happen for the right author and publisher, 
that needs to be done _with care_ - if the author, is, say, named John Johnson 
where we have dozens of people with a similar name, a thorough check is needed 
to make sure the right one is chosen. In my experience, it is always best to 
actually go on Wikidata and do a bit of (non-tool) research at this point, 
because there may be items for humans with just initials or with a slightly 
different spellings that can't be caught by a tool.
  - If an item for the author/publisher is not found, should a new one be 
created? I'm not sure - there's so much opportunity for introduction of errors 
and duplicates here.
  
  Let me state it very clearly: I'm not a fan of this task at all. I think 
describing books on Wikidata is simply too complex for a single-purpose tool. 
If describing books correctly is an intricate piece of reality that needs a few 
years of education in library science, then it's not something that we can 
magically simplify on Wikidata by 'toolifying' it.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T282719: Wikidata tool request: Users can enter an ISBN to see if a Wikidata item exists, if not it makes a new one based on the data available (works like 'Cite' tool on W

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  If someone ever develops this, it needs to be done with the greatest of care. 
If not, such a tool could produce excessive duplicate and wrongly modeled 
items, producing a huge amount of work for the community to clean up.
  
  See https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Books for some input 
on modeling. This community needs to be consulted.
  
  - Books need to conform to the FRBR description model, in order to conform 
with the level of data quality that libraries also apply. This tool needs to 
make sure all necessary items on work and edition/translation level are checked 
and created if necessary.
  - Make sure the end user, even if they are beginners, do correct matching 
with existing authors, publishers, locations of publishing. I'm actually not 
sure what would need to be done if new items need to be created at this 
level... do we even want that?
  - Avoid creation of duplicates (duplicate works, editions, authors, 
publishers, locations of publishing).
  
  Other input very welcome. I'd rather see no tool than one that introduces 
large amounts of erroneous data.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T277999: Wikidata page scrolls back to "In more languages" block after every change of DOM

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  I had this problem in Chrome and not in Firefox. Got rid of it by turning off 
the Local Live Clock gadget.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T207705: Implement the Extended Date/Time Format Specification

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  I accidentally bumped upon this, wasn't aware this was proposed. Although I'm 
one of Wikidata's greatest fans, I've always found its current date/time system 
very limited, especially when it comes to modeling intervals and uncertainties 
in an easily machine-readable way. The current 'solution' with qualifiers is, 
IMO, less than ideal.
  
  This proposal looks like a really good step in the right direction. Although 
I definitely see how updating the massive amounts of date/time data already in 
Wikidata to a newer and more refined format will be a PITA, I think it's a 
better solution for the long run.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: My Wikidata edits are getting throttled again...

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  As I resumed editing yesterday after a brief pause, the problem has gone 
away. I can now edit normally again. Not sure if we want to keep this ticket 
open for the potential case when it happens again?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T270858: My Wikidata edits are getting throttled again...

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  Since an hour or two, my Wikidata edits are being throttled. However, I 
haven't done any large-scale edits recently (see below).
  F33973716: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F33973716>
  
  (Usually I succeed in doing these edits after trying several times.)
  
  This is the third time this type of 'out of the blue' throttling happens, and 
has each time happened without a clear reason. A first occurrence was reported 
in T255804 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255804>. The second occurrence 
happened on November 25; I then briefly discussed that with @Multichill and 
@Reedy without filing a ticket - no cause was found and the problem went away 
after a week or so.
  
  As can be seen in my edit history of the past day 
<https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?target=Spinster=all==2020-12-26=2020-12-28=50=Special%3AContributions>,
 I haven't run large batch edits recently. My last batch edit, using 
OpenRefine, dates from December 22 
<https://editgroups.toolforge.org/b/OR/64b01922cea/> (five days ago).
  Some hours ago, I used the TABernacle tool for some edits to labels and 
descriptions, and I used the Mix'n'match gadget on one item, but those have 
created only a dozen edits or so. All my other edits are slow, manual ones.
  
  Filing this ticket as it's interesting that this pops up again IMO.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] T256617: Make link to entity/concept URI visible in left side menu for all Commons files

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  In T256617#6338031 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256617#6338031>, 
@CBogen wrote:
  
  > @Spinster it seems like the concept URI links are there for all files with 
structured data and are missing for files without structured data. Is there a 
use case for needing M-IDs for files without structured data?
  
  I have been asked the question by GLAM staff active in the Dutch Digital 
Strategy network, as part of an investigation we are doing re: to what extent 
Wikimedia projects are in alignment with this national strategy, which is 
heavily Linked Open Data focused (see this post in This Month in GLAM 
<https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/May_2020/Contents/Netherlands_report>
 for context). The question was posed in the context of 'older' (i.e. pre-SDC) 
uploads done by Dutch GLAMs and whether these can be approached as Linked Open 
Data as well.
  
  Use cases include:
  
  - GLAMs want to be able to link to 'their' files on Commons in a uniform, 
LOD-compliant way, from the corresponding files in their collection management 
systems. Easy (and uniform) retrieval of M-IDs from Commons, also from files 
that don't have SDC yet, makes it possible for GLAMs to point back from their 
own collection management systems (stating, in Linked Open Data, that an asset 
in their collection corresponds to one on Commons).
  - GLAMs want to add structured data to their 'older' Commons uploads in a 
straightforward way. Easy (and uniform) retrieval of M-IDs from Commons makes 
it easier for any external tool to be able to do batch SDC edits, also to files 
that don't have structured data yet.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T257341: Add ORES article quality predictions to the WDQS

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T256617: Make link to entity/concept URI visible in left side menu for all Commons files

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TASK DESCRIPTION
  At this moment, some files on Wikimedia Commons have a link to their concept 
URI (e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/entity/M91260656) in the left side menu, 
but not all files have this.
  F31910439: image.png <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/F31910439>
  
  It's my impression that this link is present for recently uploaded files 
(probably after a specific #structureddataoncommons 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/structureddataoncommons/> deployment), 
but not for older files.
  
  I'm currently working on a project with WMNL that analyzes GLAM contributions 
to Wikimedia projects in comparison to Dutch national strategic architecture 
and recommendations re: digital heritage 
<https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter/May_2020/Contents/Netherlands_report>,
 and one of the recommendations will include the importance of being able to 
link to (also older) Wikimedia Commons files as Linked Open Data. So also for 
older uploads it will be important that GLAMs will be able to discover, and 
point to, the persistent Linked Open Data identifiers of files that they have 
uploaded to Commons.
  
  Hence this feature request: to make these URIs visible for all Commons files.
  
  (This would probably also include making these concept URIs discoverable via 
API; but as I'm not an active API user I'm not sure about the status of this, 
and whether this needs a separate ticket.)

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T166166: Figure out OAI-PMH endpoint compatibility for Commons

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  Wow, this is an old one but it is still relevant. Pinging @David_Haskiya_WMSE

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

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  In T221921#6097113 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221921#6097113>, 
@CBogen wrote:
  
  > 
  
  
  
  > - The work to create a SPARQL endpoint for Commons has been re-prioritized. 
Our teams will be working on it over the next few months and the search team is 
currently estimating the work involved.
  
  I'm super happy and relieved to hear this. Thank you!
  
  > - We want to emphasize that while we do expect a SPARQL endpoint to be part 
of a medium to long term solution, it will only be part of that solution. Even 
once the SPARQL endpoint is production-ready, it will still have limitations in 
terms of timeouts, expensive queries, and federation. Some use cases will need 
to be migrated, over time, to better solutions — once those solutions exist.
  
  Understood. These concerns do seem to be focused on technical limitations, am 
I correct? In terms of context, I think in the above thread I haven't expressed 
clearly enough that a SPARQL endpoint is also quite important for Wikimedia 
Commons to be considered a serious citizen of the Linked Open Data web, being a 
currently rather standard style of endpoint for LOD repositories worldwide, 
including the ability to do federated queries across repositories. It's an 
important element for Wikimedia projects to be potentially taken seriously in 
GLAM+ worldwide knowledge infrastructure. For future better solutions (again, I 
assume, technically more stable?) I hope we'll stay committed to being 
compliant with what the rest of the semantic web is doing.
  
  As for a SPARQL endpoint being challenging for many end users from an UX 
perspective - I would say: don't underestimate our end users and community. I 
have been wildly surprised at how many people in and around the Wikimedia 
community - not just a narrow group of power users, but I would say also lots 
of 'regular' contributors! - have mastered SPARQL and actively use it. A lot of 
it also thanks to the great work on the Wikidata Query Helper and several 
volunteer-built tools to make building queries easier.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T221921: Provision search endpoint for SDC. Requirements from Product Team.

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  The GLAMs that I interact with also ask very impatiently for a SPARQL 
endpoint, as a means for themselves and for supporting Wikimedians to check and 
maintain their own collections on Commons. WDQS is a crucial component of 
refined batch maintenance and editing tools as well (think PetScan, 
TABernacle), and it powers structured data-driven lists and galleries, which 
have been quite important for several SDC GLAM pilots.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T242225: Document input format for all data types for wbcreateclaim, wbsetclaim, wbsetclaimvalue, etc. somewhere

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T239155: QuickStatements adds duplicate structured data statements on Wikimedia Commons

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T188291: Display point features (coordinates) from the results of a SPARQL query on a map in Wikipedia

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  I want this too. Actually a deceptively simple thing that would be quite 
useful on Wikimedia Commons as well.
  
  For instance, on gallery pages about artist James Ensor 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:James_Ensor> I want to include 
dynamic Wikidata-driven maps indicating the cultural institutions that have his 
works in their collection (simple query <https://w.wiki/CZ4>), where the map 
auto-updates as we add more works (and corresponding collections/institutions) 
on Wikidata.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T238443: Add P180 (Depicts) and P6243 (Digital representation of) structured data to Commons files representing artworks by Jakob Smits

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  And thanks to the Minefield tool, I have successfully added structured data 
to the files in that category now! \o/
  
  https://tools.wmflabs.org/quickstatements/#/batch/22170
  https://tools.wmflabs.org/quickstatements/#/batch/22157

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T181062: Adapt QuickStatements2 to be able to work with structured data on Commons as well

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  We're at the #wiki-techstorm-2019 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wiki-techstorm-2019/> and @Husky is 
building a tool, aptly named Minefield, to convert filenames to M item numbers, 
see T238908: Minefield: A tool to convert Commons page title to media ID and 
back <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238908>. For now this can provide help 
in formatting the right commands for QuickStatements.

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  @Husky is building a tool, aptly named Minefield, to convert filenames to M 
item numbers, see T238908: Minefield: A tool to convert Commons page title to 
media ID and back <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238908>, which will 
provide a missing link to be able to feed the necessary edits into 
QuickStatements.

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  The comment below is a good one to take into account in the context of 
technical scoping/prioritization in the 
#wmse-tools-for-partnerships-2019-blueprinting 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wmse-tools-for-partnerships-2019-blueprinting/>
 project:
  
  In T181062#3787951 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T181062#3787951>, 
@SandraF_WMF wrote:
  
  > FYI, @ChristianKl commented on QuickStatements2 functionality at 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data/Get_involved/Tools:
  > "One of the big problems with QuickStatements is that it's an external 
tool. Given that banning a user that has an active QuickStatement batch running 
doesn't stop the batch, there talk on the Wikidata Admin chat that we sometimes 
might to temporarily block the QuickStatementBot. Undoing QuickStatement 
batches is also generally cumbersome. I think it would be very valuable if the 
functionality would be integrated more natively. If Wikidata (or Commons for 
that matter) would have a representation of all the edits that come from a 
batch as a batch it could provide an easy way to undo/redo the batch or discuss 
it. ChristianKl (talk) 11:05, 26 November 2017 (UTC)"

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  Can my colleagues from the #structureddataoncommons 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/structureddataoncommons/> team do 
anything to make it easier to include filename-to-Mid conversion in 
QuickStatements? It is actually a blocker to do proper Commons-related batch 
edits like for instance outlined in T238443: Add P180 (Depicts) and P6243 
(Digital representation of) structured data to Commons files representing 
artworks by Jakob Smits <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238443> and I'll be 
happy to help give things a push if needed.
  
  According to @Multichill a file's M ID is identical to its page ID (example 
in file info 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Dead_Vlei,_Sossusvlei,_Namibia,_2018-08-06,_DD_085.jpg=info>)
 and there are also Concept URI links in the left hand sidebar on Commons file 
pages, but perhaps retrieving these for usage in tools like QuickStatements can 
be made easier?

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  In T238443#5668475 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238443#5668475>, 
@LucasWerkmeister wrote:
  
  > My best idea so far is to make the SPARQL query concatenate all the image 
titles, separated by pipe characters –
  >
  >   SELECT (GROUP_CONCAT(wikibase:decodeUri(STRAFTER(STR(?image), 
"http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:FilePath/;)); separator = " | ") AS 
?images) WHERE {
  > ?item wdt:P170 wd:Q3157590.
  > ?item wdt:P18 ?image.
  >   }
  >
  > – and then copy+paste the result <https://w.wiki/C9$> into ACDC 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Gadget-ACDC> (it 
will split the list into individual files again).
  
  That's indeed a way to get the files into AC/DC, thanks! However, then I need 
to give each file an other SDC statement (i.e. make each image point to another 
Q item), which is the tricky part of my request and which is something AC/DC 
can't do...
  
  > I can’t think of a way to do it with QuickStatements, because as far as I 
know for that we need to turn the titles into M-IDs;
  
  Yes, I suspected this would be the blocker... Any idea if there's any 
progress in finding a solution for this? Anything that can be done by the 
#structured-data-backlog 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/structured-data-backlog/> team to help?
  
  > and I don’t know a way to turn the files from the query results into a 
PagePile either (which would be easier to add to ACDC than this copy+pasted 
list).
  
  I think the approach you proposed above is already great, thanks!

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  Not correct to assign this to me, as I actually want to ask around at the 
#wiki-techstorm-2019 
<https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/wiki-techstorm-2019/>  whether someone 
else can solve this (it may require coding).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T238443: Add P180 (Depicts) and P6243 (Digital representation of) structured data to Commons files representing artworks by Jakob Smits

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  In T238443#5668132 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T238443#5668132>, 
@Salgo60 wrote:
  
  > Have you seen Magnus Manske sdc_tool.
  >
  > - tweet <https://twitter.com/MagnusManske/status/1175014645893087232?s=20>
  > - User:Magnus_Manske/sdc_tool.js 
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Magnus_Manske/sdc_tool.js>
  
  Yes, I have, but that can't do this specific thing I want to (which is to 
assign different structured data to each image individually).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T232829: [Tool idea] ISA-ART: an ISA Tool fork, specifically to tag artworks (on Wikidata)

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  In T232829#5657980 <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232829#5657980>, 
@Spinster wrote:
  
  > Actually, the Wikidata Art Depiction Explorer (WADE) does this. Yay!
  >  https://art.wikidata.link/ 
  
  Well, not entirely - you can't create campaigns or sets to work on 
specifically, but that can be a feature request for WADE.

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T232829: [Tool idea] ISA-ART: an ISA Tool fork, specifically to tag artworks (on Wikidata)

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  Actually, the Wikidata Art Depiction Explorer (WADE) does this. Yay!
  
   https://art.wikidata.link/ 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T220219: Wikidata property statistics service

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  carltondance 
<https://phab.wmfusercontent.org/file/data/x4afihvohymocmj6ivw4/PHID-FILE-etst6beo57ac2x74xxpx/meme-aWwke.gif>
  
  My enthusiasm will even be larger if the result will be reasonably usable by 
people without coding skills 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T178224: Tours are broken: TypeError

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T168057: create slide deck with Wikidata showcases

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CHANGES TO TASK DESCRIPTION...* Crotos http://zone47.com/crotos
* Cosmos http://zone47.com/crotos/cosmos/
* Callisto http://zone47.com/crotos/callisto/
* SQID https://tools.wmflabs.org/sqid/#/...* CauseGraph
* Wikidata's Nearby feature https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:Nearby
* 

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Closed] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T165962: Request creation of wikidata-documentation labs project

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@Aklapper Thanks for your quick reply! It is a request to create a project in Phabricator I guess (I'm still trying to get familiar with the workflows and culture here).

I fixed the tags. Yes, it is absolutely related to Wikidata's WikiProject Documentation; I'd like to use Phabricator to do project management for that, and have the impression that we'll have more features when it's a separate project. It definitely makes sense to tag all tasks with #wikidata and #documentation automatically, if that wouldn't necessarily flood unrelated people's worklists.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165962EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, GoranSMilovanovic, Ivana_Isadora, QZanden, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331, Jay8g___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T165989: Update and maintain Wikidata:Introduction

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T164461: [Hackathon doc sprint] A step-by-step process for the Query Service

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159215: Wikidata documentation sprint

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T165972: Create a Wikidata Tour / tutorial about special values

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T165971: Create a Wikidata Tour / tutorial about ranks

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T165903: Improve Wikidata tours

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Block] T165903: Improve Wikidata tours

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T165903: Improve Wikidata tours

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TASK DESCRIPTIONCheck and improve the Wikidata tours (interactive tutorials). Do they cover the things newcomers need to learn?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T159215: Wikidata documentation sprint

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159514: Who are the target users of our documentation

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In T159514#3279121, @Spinster wrote:
The 5 current main personas used by the Wikidata team (under construction! may need refinement!) are


an active editor on Wikidata
an occasional Wikidata editor
an active editor on a larger Wikipedia
an active editor on a small Wikipedia
a data (re-)user working for a small startup



And when seeing this very helpful list, I think these are good starting points to think about documentation.
As personas for documentation, I would think about the following dimensions / characteristics:


not experienced at all with data(bases) -> extremely experienced
not experienced at all with any Wikimedia project but not Wikidata -> extremely experienced with 1 or more Wikimedia projects that are not Wikidata
working for an organisation that is a (potential) data provider/donator, e.g. a GLAM
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159514: Who are the target users of our documentation

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The 5 current main personas used by the Wikidata team (under construction! may need refinement!) are


an active editor on Wikidata
an occasional Wikidata editor
an active editor on a larger Wikipedia
an active editor on a small Wikipedia
a data (re-)user working for a small startup
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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How about this for a start, replacing the text in the 'Getting Involved' block on the Wikidata homepage?

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159215: Wikidata documentation sprint

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In 2014? someone already worked on this, here are their notes: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Thepwnco/Documentation_Overhaul/Summary_and_FeedbackTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159215EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: johl, SpinsterCc: Fuzheado, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Crang115, nichtich, Tarrow, Rfarrand, anirudh24seven, Spinster, Jonas, Trizek-WMF, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, PurpleBasil, GoranSMilovanovic, Ivana_Isadora, QZanden, cmadeo, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Tobias1984, Mbch331, Jay8g, fgiunchedi___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159215: Wikidata documentation sprint

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Google Drive folder with notes: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B9jfaELxxRSxdGxQZ2JOLWMzdkU?usp=sharingTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159215EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: johl, SpinsterCc: Fuzheado, Alicia_Fagerving_WMSE, Crang115, nichtich, Tarrow, Rfarrand, anirudh24seven, Spinster, Jonas, Trizek-WMF, Lea_Lacroix_WMDE, Aklapper, PurpleBasil, GoranSMilovanovic, Ivana_Isadora, QZanden, cmadeo, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Tobias1984, Mbch331, Jay8g, fgiunchedi___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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EDIT DETAILS...* Agenda-setting, prioritizing...

TLet me first explain a trend that I notice while working with GLAM partners - and it's a bit scary to me. GLAMs themselves have spent a lot of time and effort on their own (individual and shared) platforms, image banks, open data repositories ... and have noticed that 1) maintaining these often does not work due to obsolescence of technology, lack of new funding, new insights and 2) it's better to use those platforms that their audiences actually use... such as Wikimedia platforms.
Especially in Linked Open Data strategies, I see the trend popping up that some groups of GLAMs are thinking about using Wikidata - and perhaps later also structured Wikimedia Commons - as basic linked open data infrastructures and repositories for themselves. 

Additionally, typical requests from external data providers include:...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165653EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, PurpleBasil, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, cmadeo, Acer, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Tobias1984, Deskana, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, JeanFred, Mbch331, Jay8g, fgiunchedi, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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EDIT DETAILS...  - Statistics of use and re-use of specific sets of data, both on Wikimedia projects and externally (see T138697)

  - And they would actually really love it if we'd embrace something like [[ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Image_Interoperability_Framework | IIIF ]] - so let them work from their own image repositories, with us embedding that.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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EDIT DETAILSFrom her experience working with various GLAMs (cultural institutes) on Wikidata projectdonating or contributing data to Wikidata, User:Spinster outlines some requests and needs that these organizations have, that might at first sight be different from our own community's needs, User:Spinster outlines some requests and needs that these organizations have - and that might be different from our own community's needs.but that would help to make our projects more useful to valuable external partners who can help us fulfill our mission.

(example project: [[ https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Flemish_art_collections,_Wikidata_and_Linked_Open_Data | Flemish museums contributing their collection data to Wikidata ]])

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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EDIT DETAILS...  - Integrity of data from external providers (e.g. how to make sure that correct statements, sourced to an external data provider, are not vandalized or changed in an incorrect manner) (see also [[ T138708 |- Signed Statements ]])...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165653EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, PurpleBasil, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, cmadeo, Acer, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Tobias1984, Deskana, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, JeanFred, Mbch331, Jay8g, fgiunchedi, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Edited] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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EDIT DETAILS...  - Integrity of data from external providers (e.g. how to make sure that correct statements, sourced to an external data provider, are not vandalized or changed in an incorrect manner) (see also [[ T138708 | Signed Statements ]])...TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165653EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, PurpleBasil, GoranSMilovanovic, QZanden, cmadeo, Acer, Puik, D3r1ck01, Envlh, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, Base, matthiasmullie, aude, Tobias1984, Deskana, Ricordisamoa, Fabrice_Florin, JeanFred, Mbch331, Jay8g, fgiunchedi, Tgr___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T165653: Group discussion: what do GLAMs want from Wikidata and structured data on Commons, and how to act upon that?

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TASK DESCRIPTIONFrom her experience working with various GLAMs (cultural institutes) on Wikidata projects, User:Spinster outlines some requests and needs that these organizations have - and that might be different from our own community's needs.

Discussion to follow:


What to do with these observations?
What else do we need to know/ask from external contributors?
Agenda-setting, prioritizing...


Typical requests from external data providers include:


Keeping Wikidata and external data sources linked and in sync
Ways, workflows, easy tools for external organizations to keep track of edits happening to 'their' data on Wikidata
Integrity of data from external providers (e.g. how to make sure that correct statements, sourced to an external data provider, are not vandalized or changed in an incorrect manner)
Statistics of use and re-use of specific sets of data, both on Wikimedia projects and externally
And they would actually really love it if we'd embrace something like IIIF - so let them work from their own image repositories, with us embedding that.
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159216: [Hackathon doc sprint] Beginner documentation about Wikidata

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I have experience creating short demo videos about Wikidata. Will bring my recording equipment to the hackathon (= my laptop and headphones with integrated microphone).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T159215: Wikidata documentation sprint

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I have experience creating short demo videos about Wikidata. Will bring my recording equipment to the hackathon (= my laptop and headphones with integrated microphone).

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T160828: SPARQL for Wikidata workshop for muggles @ Wikimedia Hackathon 2017 Vienna

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146140: wishlisted: Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets add-on

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Great! Thank you so much :-)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146140EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: Tomayac, SpinsterCc: Spinster, Tomayac, Aklapper, dachary, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146740: Create an operational reconciliation service for Wikidata on OpenRefine

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TASK DESCRIPTIONIt would be extremely helpful if OpenRefine would include an *operational* reconciliation service with Wikidata. It would make data imports so much easier, by offering a tool with which values from an external dataset can be matched much more easily and correctly with Wikidata.

You can earn money by coding it: there's a bounty of currently $265.

For more info, see this issue on GitHub. Reposting here to draw more attention to it.

@Magnus created a reconciliation API on the Wikidata side, but the implementation on the OpenRefine side is still missing. See the thread on GitHub linked above for input on that.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146740EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Spinster, Magnus, Aklapper, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T146140: wishlisted: Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets add-on

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Thanks for the example! It is handy in case of single queries, but what about checking many values for many Wikidata items at once? I have created an actual example / use case of a dataset that I'm currently working with and that is a typical workflow for me. See the example here.

(I don't intend to burden you specifically with this request - I put this here on Phabricator in the hopes that other developers may see it too, and might be interested in looking into this!)TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146140EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Spinster, Tomayac, Aklapper, dachary, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T146140: wishlisted: Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets add-on

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Hi Tom, thanks for the quick reply! I know and use these functions, I actually mean something different: give me the specific value(s) for one specific property/statement, rather than all statements as happens in WIKIDATAFACTS.

For instance, if I have a cell containing Q1282569, I'd like to ask specifically for the English-value label of its P109 property (profession), and then in a next cell to the right for instance its P569 (date of birth) and in another next cell its P570 (date of death).
Next row I might have another Q-number for which I'd also ask its P109, and then P569, P570, etc. Each cell requests one property specifically. I hope I'm making myself clear.

As this is very Wikidata-centric I thought about a separate add-on rather than integrated in the current Wikipedia-centered one, but maybe they can be integrated too.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146140EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Spinster, Tomayac, Aklapper, dachary, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T146140: wishlisted: Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets add-on

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TASK DESCRIPTION@Tomayac has written an excellent add-on for Google Spreadsheets, Wikipedia Tools for Google Spreadsheets, which I use very intensively.

While using it, I have often thought how incredibly handy it would be to have a similar tool, but with Wikidata-focused commands - Wikidata Tools for Google Spreadsheets. Unfortunately I'm not a programmer so can't write this myself, but I would be extremely grateful to anyone who would build this.

Features that would be great to have:


Start from a cell with either a Wikidata Q number or an en:Article Title (or other language code)
Ability to retrieve the value of a specific property for that Q number or Wikipedia article link; either as a resulting Q number, or its label in a given language, or the string/whatever in case of (e.g.) time properties, identifiers, etc.


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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Updated] T138697: Statistics dashboard for data on Wikidata

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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138708: [Epic] Signed statements

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Great idea. When you are at the point where this needs testing by external partners, I'll be happy to help approach some.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138708EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: jayvdb, Scott_WUaS, tfmorris, Spinster, TomT0m, Denny, Eloquence, JanZerebecki, T.seppelt, Aklapper, daniel, Zppix, Lydia_Pintscher, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, TheDJ, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T138916: Wikidata gadget request: Search for this item in Mix'n'Match

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TASK DESCRIPTIONI use the Mix'n'Match search feature extremely frequently when editing Wikidata. It works very well when you want to complete all potential authority control properties for an item (mostly a person, but can be a concept or a geographical feature or a building too, for instance).

I'm not a coder but I have a hunch that it could be quite easy to create a gadget that adds a link to the Mix'n'Match search for the current item to the toolbar on the left.
The gadget could use the English label of the item as search string, with fallback to the label in another language where a label *is* present. (I know this is not perfect, but it would work in many cases.)

An example:
Item https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q2351102 is the Belgian artist Leo Copers. Has "Leo Copers" as English label.
Permalink for search for his name in Mix'n'Match is http://tools.wmflabs.org/mix-n-match/?mode=search=Leo%20Copers==
The gadget could link to this permalink URL. With one click I can then take a look and complete the item's authority statements/matches.TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138916EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, Zppix, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Ricordisamoa, Sjoerddebruin, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T138697: Statistics dashboard for data on Wikidata

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I am extremely unfamiliar with Phabricator. Might this be turned into a separate project?TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138697EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, Zppix, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Created] T138697: Statistics dashboard for data on Wikidata

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TASK DESCRIPTIONWishlist for a statistics dashboard which allows to keep track of edits to a certain dataset on Wikidata, and re-use of that dataset.

Some input and first ideas here:
https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Training_sessions/Proposals/Wikidata_and_GLAM_intermediate_workshop/backupetherpad#Statistics_breakout_group (GLAM+Wikidata session during Wikimania 2016)

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Flemish_art_collections,_Wikidata_and_Linked_Open_Data/Visualizations_and_statistics contains a wishlist by 8 museums who have donated data to WikidataTASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138697EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: Aklapper, Spinster, Zppix, D3r1ck01, Izno, Wikidata-bugs, aude, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137743: SPARQL or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Triples

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Our Etherpad: https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/SPARQLatWikimania2016TASK DETAILhttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137743EMAIL PREFERENCEShttps://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/To: SpinsterCc: OrenBochman, Ata, Esh77, Jonas, Legoktm, Smalyshev, Kghbln, Base, Lydia_Pintscher, Lucie, Spinster, Aklapper, Multichill, Zppix, Avner, debt, Gehel, D3r1ck01, FloNight, Izno, Psychoslave, jkroll, Wikidata-bugs, Jdouglas, aude, Deskana, Manybubbles, Mbch331___
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Commented On] T137743: SPARQL or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Triples

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I’m not going to the hackathon but will be there on Wednesday and would love to attend this.

I'm not a programmer. I’m able to take existing queries and modify them a bit. I'm also able to build WDQ queries and then use the converter. Would like to learn to build SPARQL queries from scratch.

Haven’t been able to figure out the scenarios and questions below, though, and would like to learn this (if it is doable via Wikidata’s SPARQL engine):


Give me all the paintings that are depicted in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q17337965 and put them on a map - this should be retrieved via the coordinates of their collections
Give me all the artworks in one art collection + all their inventory numbers + the reference URLs in the references for the inventory numbers (that last part is something I can’t do yet)
Give me all the artists who are creators of artworks of one art collection, show each artist only once, and put them on a map based on their birth date
I’d like to see an interesting and working use case for the Graph and the Dimensions display mode
Is it possible to generate a graph visualization of 8 different art collections and their connected artists (so that you see which artists are represented in multiple collections)?
I'd like to work with pagepiles and/or with sets of handpicked Wikidata items, but have a hunch that this is not possible, is this correct? If it is possible, how to do it?
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[Wikidata-bugs] [Maniphest] [Changed Subscribers] T68108: Store media information for files on Wikimedia Commons as structured data

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