Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

"AGK" wrote in message news:a342424e0906051009g38d27b9dked2193916a6dc...@mail.gmail.com... > > >> If not, is there a group of people somewhere who chase up copyvios like >> this? > > > I suppose the Free Software Foundation would be the body responsible for > chasing up copyright violations, but,

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"Andrew Turvey" wrote in message news:5465232.561244846011734.javamail.sys...@atsl_laptop... > - "Unionhawk" wrote: >> >> Well, I mean, what difference does it make? I guess it probably should >> have a link, but, honestly, with the number of Wikipedia images being >> reused these days, I do

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"Ray Saintonge" wrote in message news:4a32892b.90...@telus.net... > Sam Korn wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: >>> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: (Photo: >>> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia)

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"Steve Bennett" wrote in message news:b8ceeef70906112226t56603352y27a9fc22fbea9...@mail.gmail.com... > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: >> (Photo: > href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) >> >> I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. >

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I do not think hosting the license is *quite* necessary, and I could be persuaded, especially before their webmaster has a chance to digest lunch. I think a caption below the image, which links to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/user:WikiWitch would be an exemplary citation. "geni" wrote in messa

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; >> What would we say in response? >> >> Is it written down anywhere? >> >> - "Sam Korn" wrote: >> > From: "Sam Korn" >> > To: "English Wikipedia" >> > Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 17:26:32 GMT +00:00 GMT

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Sam Korn wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Michael Peel wrote: >> >> On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:13, Sam Korn wrote: >>> >>> Right.  I certainly agree that it would be better to name the author. >>> >>> But when articles are reused, they generally link to the Wi

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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Michael Peel wrote: On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:13, Sam Korn wrote: Right.  I certainly agree that it would be better to name the author. But when articles are reused, they generally link to the Wikipedia article without giving a list of usernames; I don't see why t

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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Michael Peel wrote: > In the case of the images that I've taken myself and uploaded to > Commons (CC-BY-SA license), pretty much the only thing I'm after for > myself is attribution. I believe that's a standard stance amongst > photographers that aren't also aft

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On 12 Jun 2009, at 11:13, Sam Korn wrote: > Right. I certainly agree that it would be better to name the author. > > But when articles are reused, they generally link to the Wikipedia > article without giving a list of usernames; I don't see why that > would be different for images. Images a

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- "Unionhawk" wrote: > > Well, I mean, what difference does it make? I guess it probably should > have a link, but, honestly, with the number of Wikipedia images being > reused these days, I don't think it would be worth it to attempt to > track them all down... > - --Unionhawk Good ch

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Sam Korn wrote: > On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: >>> (Photo: >> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) >>> >>> >>> >>> I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. >> Hell no. You d

Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: (Photo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. Hell no. You didn't even credit the author. Photo: WikiWitch a

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: > (Photo: href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) > > I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. Hell no. You didn't even credit the author. Photo: WikiWitch at Wikipedia, under GFDL. That's about the min

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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Well, I mean, what difference does it make? I guess it probably should have a link, but, honestly, with the number of Wikipedia images being reused these days, I don't think it would be worth it to attempt to track them all down... - --Unionhawk Carch

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Casey Brown wrote: > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Andrew > Turvey wrote: >> I've seen (source:Wikipedia) quoted a few times on media pictures now. > > Well, that's the media. :-)  They're used to being able to just say > random things like "source: Reuters" tha

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2009/6/6 Anthony : > "no synopsis can substitute for what the text of the > licensesays, > and if in doubt the reuser should seek a proper legal opinion" ( > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > Can I put the question in another way: > > Suppose a media company lawyer came to us and said "we've found this photo > on Wikimedia that we would like to use - how can we do this and comply with > the copyright" > > What would we say in respo

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2009/6/6 AGK : >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia >> was >> written specifically to deal with this precise question. > And a very good guide it is. It would be ideal if more media organisations > followed its advice. It's useful to point people to :-

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> > Yes - > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia > was > written specifically to deal with this precise question. And a very good guide it is. It would be ideal if more media organisations followed its advice. AGK __

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2009/6/5 Andrew Turvey : > Can I put the question in another way: > Suppose a media company lawyer came to us and said "we've found this photo on > Wikimedia that we would like to use - how can we do this and comply with the > copyright" > What would we say in response? > Is it written down anyw

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:55 PM, geni wrote: > 2009/6/6 Angela : >> On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: >>> (Photo: >> href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) >>> >>> I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. >> >> Adding the license wouldn't

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2009/6/6 Sam Korn : > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:21 AM, > Falcorian wrote: >> We have a policy: >> >> [[Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content]] > > It would be good to have something that specifically referred to reuse > of images, since I think that is probably more common than reusing > text. > > Sa

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2009/6/6 Angela : > On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: >> (Photo: > href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) >> >> I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. > > Adding the license wouldn't be much harder: > > (Photo: > href="http://en.wikiped

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 12:21 AM, Falcorian wrote: > We have a policy: > > [[Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content]] It would be good to have something that specifically referred to reuse of images, since I think that is probably more common than reusing text. Sam -- Sam PGP public key: http://en.

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Falcorian wrote: > We have a policy: > > [[Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content]] > > --Falcorian > ROTFL. It's a Wikipedia policy, not a users' policy. Unless somebody does something about enforcing it it's a paper tiger. Ec ___ WikiEN-l mailing

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Sam Korn wrote: > (Photo: href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) > > I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. Adding the license wouldn't be much harder: (Photo: href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parl

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iday, 5 June, 2009 17:26:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Unionhawk wrote: > So, how *should* it > be attributed? I'm confused... (Photo: Wikipedia )

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uot;Sam Korn" wrote: > From: "Sam Korn" > To: "English Wikipedia" > Sent: Friday, 5 June, 2009 17:26:32 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, Portugal > Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Unionhawk wrote:

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David Gerard wrote: > 2009/6/4 Andrew Turvey: > >> It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as >> this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232 >> However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of >> attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)" >> If not, is th

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> > If not, is there a group of people somewhere who chase up copyvios like > this? I suppose the Free Software Foundation would be the body responsible for chasing up copyright violations, but, if they are anything like almost every other non-profit in the world, they probably don't have the tim

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Andrew Turvey wrote: > -- "Casey Brown" wrote: > >> Well, that's the media. :-) They're used to being able to just say >> random things like "source: Reuters" that make no sense whatsoever. >> ;-) >> > Yeah - but the difference there is that they're actually paying Reuters for > it and

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Stephen Bain wrote: > On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Andrew wrote: > >> However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of >> attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)" >> > No. What's needed is: > > 1) A copy of the GFDL. For web uses, a link to the GFDL is generally > accep

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Unionhawk wrote: So, how *should* it be attributed? I'm confused... (Photo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Houses_of_Parliament.jpg";>Wikipedia) I imagine that would satisfy *almost* everyone. -- Sam PGP public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sam_Kor

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- "Casey Brown" wrote: > From: "Casey Brown" > Well, that's the media. :-) They're used to being able to just say > random things like "source: Reuters" that make no sense whatsoever. > ;-) Yeah - but the difference there is that they're actually paying Reuters for it and using it wit

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So, how *should* it be attributed? I'm confused... Go Freedom! Unionhawk On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as > this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232 > > However, does this comply with the GDFL license?

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On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > Just out of interest, what is "doing it right" in this context. Is a link to > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Houses_of_Parliament.jpg > plus an extended text along the lines of, say, the bottom of > http://www.answers.co

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On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Andrew Turvey wrote: > > However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of > attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)" No. What's needed is: 1) A copy of the GFDL. For web uses, a link to the GFDL is generally accepted as complying with this. 2) Th

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2009/6/4 Andrew Turvey : > Just out of interest, what is "doing it right" in this context. Is a link to > http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Houses_of_Parliament.jpg > plus an extended text along the lines of, say, the bottom of > http://www.answers.com/topic/bahrain-football-cl

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I've seen (source:Wikipedia) quoted a few times on media pictures now. - "David Gerard" wrote: > From: "David Gerard" > To: "English Wikipedia" > Sent: Thursday, 4 June, 2009 21:55:23 GMT +00:00 GMT Britain, Ireland, > Portugal > Subject:

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2009/6/4 Andrew Turvey : > It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as > this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232 > However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of > attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)" > If not, is there a group of people somewher

[WikiEN-l] GDFL compliance

It's great to see more and more people re-using Wikipedia content. such as this: http://euobserver.com/9/28232 However, does this comply with the GDFL license? All it says by way of attribution is "(Photo: wikipedia)" If not, is there a group of people somewhere who chase up copyvios like thi