Tom,
1. You appear to be trying to convince the members of this list, and possibly
later by extension, the members of the Wikimedia community, to communicate in a
less stridently adversarial mode than is currently apparent.
2. I completely agree with all points expressed, and consider Dennett to
Re http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-27407017
Please remember that the EU Courts explicitly allow for a public
interest exemption which almost by definition covers anyone passing
Wikipedia's notability criteria.
Also, please consider the appropriate response for those of us
including Kathy
This seems like very good advice, Tom. Have you tried it?
A.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote:
Hi,
I remember once I shared here some thoughts from Dennett on the importance
of making mistakes
Hi,
During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions
about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly
Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them
(reasons explained in the RFC as discussed during the Wikidata session),
On 14 May 2014 14:26, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote:
How to compose a successful critical commentary [...]
That strikes me as very long winded, and so not conducive to a
succinct email exchange.
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@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
This is highly needed, thanks for sharing.
Dennis Pierri
On 14/05/2014, at 08:56, Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton.alvare...@okfn.org
wrote:
Hi,
I remember once I shared here some thoughts from Dennett on the importance
of making
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.ukwrote:
On 14 May 2014 14:26, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote:
How to compose a successful critical commentary [...]
That strikes me as very long winded, and so not conducive to a
succinct
On 15 May 2014 09:20, Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org wrote:
This seems like very good advice, Tom. Have you tried it?
I agree, it sure is great advice. A shorter version is the management
classic good news sandwich. Here's a version similar to those you
might see used in emails:
1. Your
On 15 May 2014 12:22, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote:
How to compose a successful critical commentary [...]
That strikes me as very long winded, and so not conducive to a
succinct email exchange.
This style of communication is indeed quite longwinded and can be rather
2014-05-15 11:25 GMT+02:00 David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com:
During the Zürich Hackathon I met several people that looked for solutions
about how to integrate external open datasets into our projects (mainly
Wikipedia, Wikidata). Since Wikidata is not the right tool to manage them
(reasons
Andy, you seem concerned that people won't take the time to fully read
responses composed this way. I think it's important to get to the point as
well and appreciate the reminder. However, I think it may be possible to
follow the form and keep disagreements brief. :)
Maggie
On Thu, May 15, 2014
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com
wrote:
Thanks for the pointer, How can I put this open data on Wikidata is a
question that I have been asked many times, this page was needed.
Thanks for your comment!
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Samuel Klein
Good point Asaf :-)
2014-05-15 5:20 GMT-03:00 Asaf Bartov abar...@wikimedia.org:
This seems like very good advice, Tom. Have you tried it?
A.
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:26 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga
everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote:
Hi,
I remember once I shared here some
David,
This is an interesting question. I think that a dataset is just like
any other table such as the ones included in Wikipedia, with lots more
entries and maybe even pieces attached that can't go on Wikipedia such
as pictures, audio, short films, pieces of software code, or other
media.
So I
Jane,
Thanks for your input! I never thought as datasets as incorporating images,
but just as a table (whose elements might point to images, but not contain
them). Are people in the GLAM scene expecting other files embedded when
talking about datasets?
Well, if it is a standard format (csv or
Micru,
There are several related aspects of datasets, that I would enumerate as:
1) Storing / archiving datasets
2) Editing / manipulating datasets
3) Using excerpts (e.g. specific data) from datasets
Each of these involves a different, but related set of tools.
It isn't entirely clear to me,
Hi Robert,
TBH I asked the question as NPOV as possible because I have my own bias. By
stating it in general terms I hope that the conversation isn't forced in
any particular direction.
There are technical limitations to reuse external datasets, like how do you
control that the external site
On 15 May 2014 12:42, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote:
You will find more details here
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/How_to_deal_with_open_datasets
Your comments, thoughts and ideas are appreciated!
Thanks for the pointer, How can I put this open data
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Kevin, Andreas, et al:
It took me a couple days, but I've assembled my list of files, exceeding
the 10 I had committed to:
http://wikistrategies.net/wikimedia-commons-is-far-from-ethically-broken/
I hope this annotated list of interesting deletion discussions on Commons
is helpful to those who
On 15 May 2014 23:20, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote:
A final detail, directed mainly to Wil (and anybody interested in the Board
resolution that's been discussed): I don't think it's been mentioned that
the directive to develop an image suppression feature was rescinded a year
Pete, you know the toothbrush image you talk about on your blog still
shows up on a Commons search for electric toothbrush, right? It's in
Category:Nude
or partially nude people with electric
Pete,
I am sure that I speak on behalf of all of the Commons community when
I say that it is disheartening to continually hear the mantra commons
is broken, when that could not be further from the truth. Your blog
post, helps to present some of that reality, so I thank you, both on
my behalf and
On 15 May 2014 22:22, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote:
Pete,
I am sure that I speak on behalf of all of the Commons community when
I say that it is disheartening to continually hear the mantra commons
is broken, when that could not be further from the truth. Your blog
post,
Nathan wrote:
A lot of the issues Kevin is probably referring to revolve around the 2011
debate, and many of the most blatant problems have since been cleaned up.
Perhaps some of the most blatant problems have been addressed, but I'm
skeptical. I admit I haven't been following this discussion
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:20 PM, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.comwrote:
Andreas, in response to your last message -- I'm perfectly fine with the
examples you provided! I just happen to think they do a better job
supporting my position (Commons is healthy and productive)
I'd have been
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:09 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:
Pete, you know the toothbrush image you talk about on your blog still
shows up on a Commons search for electric toothbrush, right? It's in
Category:Nude
or partially nude people with electric
toothbrushes
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 9:42 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote:
Nathan wrote:
A lot of the issues Kevin is probably referring to revolve around the 2011
debate, and many of the most blatant problems have since been cleaned up.
Perhaps some of the most blatant problems have been addressed,
Risker,
The solution to the problem is entirely within the control of Commons -
recategorize the image to improvised vibrators instead of electric
toothbrush and you're done. I wouldn't dare do it myself, it would be the
kinunderstandd of provocative activity from someone who doesn't really
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:03 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote:
We're getting a long way off topic of the still frame on MOTD, but I
agree, and wish that the WMF would make this a priority for their
multimedia and search team.
Many improvements have been suggested by the
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