Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I applaud this action. Great. The next step is making it not so easy for the NSA to harvest their ill gotten gains. We could and should share our data from cache servers that are much closer to our users ie outside the USA. The benefit would not be so much in frustrating the NSA but more in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Comet styles
for an organization taking on the NSA for spying..why are we using https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and running with our tail between our legs? On 3/10/15, Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl wrote: this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional support of WMF for. Thanks for doing that. dariusz pundit On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Michelle Paulson mpaul...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy Learning patterns

2015-03-10 Thread Josh Lim
This is great, Emeric! We’d be glad to take a look at this. :) For our part, Wikimedia Philippines has a travel policy as part of our Expense Policy, and it’s been working well for us for the last 3-4 years now. We’ll be glad to share our policy as well.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
I created draft of the article about the case https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Wikimedia_v._NSAin English Wikipedia. I'm not sure it's not too soon to move this draft to the main namespace. Please add content and then move it to main ns when you think it's ready. Best On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Johan Jönsson
2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com: for an organization taking on the NSA for spying..why are we using https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and running with our tail between our legs? (For non-technical readers: the HTTP protocol is the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy Learning patterns

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Symonds
Not with WMUK. most of our reimbursements are travel-related, but they fall under the expense policy as the others do. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread വിശ്വപ്രഭ
Greatly done! This is not just news. It is a mark that will be recorded in bold letters in the history of human's quest for knowledge. -user:ViswaPrabha https://ml.wikipedia.org On 10 March 2015 at 18:15, Tomasz Ganicz polime...@gmail.com wrote: https is generaly increasing privacy of the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
https is generaly increasing privacy of the users. http can be listen by anyone. It is like using walkie-talkie - anyone with radio-scanner can listen :-) 2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles cometsty...@gmail.com: for an organization taking on the NSA for spying..why are we using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Ivan Martínez
That's great! Pending for translation. 2015-03-10 10:21 GMT-06:00 Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com: There's a relevant research project outlined on Meta, about HTTPS: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy Here's the nutshell description: Since we started

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy Learning patterns

2015-03-10 Thread Jean-Frédéric
Since so many movement entities have some take on this document, I have started listing them at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Travel_Policy Feel free to expand. :-) -- Jean-Frédéric jean-frederic.berthe...@wikimedia.fr ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Samuel Klein
Michelle and Geoff - thank you. This is a big step; I am glad that WMF can help move this case forward. Chris Keating writes: I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights / human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end of US politics, some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Andrew Lih
Probably a good time for everyone to know about EFF's HTTPS Everywhere: HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox, Chrome, and Opera extension that encrypts your communications with many major websites, making your browsing more secure. Encrypt the web: Install HTTPS Everywhere today.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Gregory Varnum
Kudos to the Legal Team on this important case! -greg aka varnent On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 9:01 AM, ViswaPrabha (വിശ്വപ്രഭ) vp2...@gmail.com wrote: Greatly done! This is not just news. It is a mark that will be recorded in bold letters in the history of human's quest for knowledge.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Pete Forsyth
There's a relevant research project outlined on Meta, about HTTPS: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Wikimedia_referrer_policy Here's the nutshell description: Since we started switching to HTTPS and an increasing portion of inbound traffic happens over SSL, Wikimedia sites stopped

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Chris Keating
Curious question, by the way: how controversial would you expect this move to be domestically? From e.g. a Swedish perspective, the NSA is an intelligence agency of a foreign power and the other mentioned organizations are either largely uncontroversial and seen in a positive light (Amnesty,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread James Alexander
Aye, I also only have anecdotal evidince at this point (from my father who has been messaging me and myself) but the comments I've seen in the american press have been 10:1 (higher on tech sites) with generally more thoughtful comments then usual and where there are critiques they are not bad

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Data privacy, encrypted links and recent change captures

2015-03-10 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:15 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: Could we have an update on what is being done over the last year to protect the privacy of user data sent between datacenters? Someone in ops could add more detail on the actual work in progress, but you can watch

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Pete Forsyth
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not American, but the other co-plaintiffs seem to be civil rights / human rights organisations who are firmly at the left-wing/progressive end of US politics I am an American, and I'm not so sure about that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread David Gerard
It's difficult to overstate how much people love us. We tell them everything about everything, and we're mostly right and try to stay neutral. But it's all written by just people! So it's cosy as well. With SOPA, we discovered that: when Wikipedia says you suck, you *suck*. So I'd expect that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Data privacy, encrypted links and recent change captures

2015-03-10 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 01/01/2014 9:11 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: John Vandenberg, 30/12/2013 08:10: Are the Wikimedia transit links encrypted, especially for database replication? MySQL has replication over SSL, so I assume the answer is Yes. If not, is this necessary or useful, and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Johan Jönsson
2015-03-10 8:53 GMT+01:00 Michelle Paulson mpaul...@wikimedia.org: Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing suit against the National Security Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency, the Department of Justice

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimédia France travel policy Learning patterns

2015-03-10 Thread Michael Maggs
If anyone wants to compare and contrast, you can find WMUK's expenses policy (covering travel and other expenses) here: https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Expense_policy Best regards Michael Michael Maggs Chair, Wikimedia UK Emeric Vallespi mailto:emeric.valle...@wikimedia.fr 9

[Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Michelle Paulson
Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing suit against the National Security Agency https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency, the Department of Justice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice, and the U.S. Attorney

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Raymond Leonard
In the U.S., there is also a strong minority contingent of Libertarians, who tend to be on the right-wing/conservative part of the political spectrum. These are natural allies for both privacy governmental non-intrunsion. I think that they would welcome WMF joining this legal action. Yours,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Wow! I am proud to be a volunteer working with an organisation daring to take such steps. I hope that this will bring concrete results. Best regards, Yann 2015-03-10 8:53 GMT+01:00 Michelle Paulson mpaul...@wikimedia.org: Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

2015-03-10 Thread Michael Maggs
Thank you for taking this action. All the best, Michael Michelle Paulson mailto:mpaul...@wikimedia.org 10 March 2015 07:53 Hi All, I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is filing suit against the National Security Agency