Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread James Salsman
If the Foundation Endowment paid for translations of articles across Wikipedias, it would still be like a Foundation Grant in terms of the legal effect on the DMCA safe harbor provisions and the practical effect on whether mistakes could bring the Foundation into disrepute. Maybe the Foundation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread Peter Southwood
Difficult, yes. Impossible, no. Part of the problem can be that some Wikipedias are somewhat fussy about the language you use. There are users who object to anyone using a word not approved by some authority, but cannot suggest what to do when there is no such word. Cheers, Peter

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
Using a term from another language while creating an article and then later localizing that term isn't that difficult, and should not be described as impossible. What it does although identifies a problem with our current production system; it is easy to move an article, but it is not easy to make

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Yes, I mentioned something like this in one of my emails in this thread. Every language goes through a period of creating terminology. Some languages successfully create native words (Icelandic is a famous example), some languages are fine with taking foreign words (um, English took a lot from

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread Peter Southwood
Part of the problem may be that the vocabulary is lacking. It is very difficult to explain a concept in one language when you know the words only in another language, and it would be considered original research by some Wikipedias to make up words for the job. I have struggled with translations

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
It should also be possible for an editor to let the payment go back to foundation. This would probably be the case for many users in industrial countries. Perhaps it wasn't clear enough but the interface to manage translations would be for someone other than the involved translators, aka a third

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread John Erling Blad
You guys are making the whole idea way to complex. There should be no editorial board. That goes against the whole wiki-way of doing things. There should be no additional foundation, that makes the whole idea unmanageable. It will also cost way more than the gain. Make thing DarnSimpleā„¢! A single

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

2018-03-04 Thread WereSpielChequers
Pine, there is one possible way to fund such translation in the future; The Foundation is building up an endowment. When that endowment has grown to the point where the annual return is sufficient to fund the Foundation, then you could re-purpose the annual fundraiser from collecting money to host