Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons tagging and/versus categorization

2014-05-20 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 02:44, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Regarding hierarchy, there's absolutely no technical reason, as far as I'm aware, that categories must be hierarchal. It's certainly an intended feature that categories have subcategories and the capability to be hierarchal (i.e., you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Timothy Sandole and (apparently) $53, 690 of WMF funding

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2014 08:26, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm giving this thread a poke because we're still waiting for answers to questions. The most recent email was from Srikanth on May 7. But Benghazi! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 00:05, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Russavia's post directed to me earlier in this thread managed in one stroke to confirm just about everything that I said: that comments from those who aren't regular participants on Commons are to be belittled and ignored, that even a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 20 May 2014 00:14, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I did give serious consideration to going and properly categorizing the image, but given the underlying threat from Russavia, and my disinclination to be blocked, I'll leave it to someone who finds the Commons experience less

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 May 2014 23:20, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: A final detail, directed mainly to Wil (and anybody interested in the Board resolution that's been discussed): I don't think it's been mentioned that the directive to develop an image suppression feature was rescinded a year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons' frontpage probably shouldn't prominently feature a decontextualised stack of corpses.

2014-05-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 May 2014 23:54, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: I was using oversight rather loosely to mean there's a body of people looking over the process sufficient to catch any terrific fumbles before they get out of the gate, rather than any stricter sense of the term. I view the scrutiny

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 May 2014 17:42, edward edw...@logicmuseum.com wrote: Geni: You seem to think its straightforward. If you think that you should be able to propose a study design. It is straightforward in my field. I have already studied most of the Wikipedia articles in that area, and they all contain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 May 2014 19:27, Anthony Cole ahcole...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with those above who highlight the flaws in the current scholarly peer-review process. If enWikipedia is to embrace scholarly review (and we should) we need to confront and address the well-known problems with peer review in

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Metrics - accuracy of Wikipedia articles

2014-05-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 May 2014 23:14, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: For what it's worth, there was a recent external study of Wikipedia's medical content that came to unflattering results: http://www.jaoa.org/content/114/5/368.full Osteopaths. Perhaps we could ask the chiropractors and homeopaths

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 09:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Every time I see Fae or Russavia in a from: line, I dread opening the email. Fae, posts like this, where any actual point you have is buried under a mountain of your overwhelming bitterness, with you tag-teaming with Russavia on *his*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 10:41, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: My response on this thread for Erik's unacceptable public behaviour as a Foundation senior manager have nothing whatsoever to do with Wikimedia UK or the wikimediauk-l list, so your using your authority on a different list to punish me is

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 16:25, Michael Snow wikipe...@frontier.com wrote: To illustrate how silly this can get on some level, consider the fact that justifiably or not, the media and the general public often treat the content of Wikimedia projects as if it reflects on the reputation of the Wikimedia

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 17:05, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) bjor...@wikimedia.org wrote: For example, others are blasting Victor (whom I may have met, but if I have it slipped my mind in the middle of all the other people I've met) for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 17:36, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: I think Steven's interpretation here is pretty sound - yes, it's legitimate for us to do this, but we should be a bit cautious :-) Infrastructure tools yes, GIMP probably not. Inkscape, however ... we have such a huge

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 18:03, Pete Forsyth petefors...@gmail.com wrote: I assume good faith on the part of the people who choose to work for the WMF. Shouldn't we all? I think this statement seriously neglects the context of this discussion. - d. ___

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 20:49, Zack Exley zex...@wikimedia.org wrote: OK -- I think that's all you need from me. Now enjoy yourselves as you continue to grind Wikipedia to a whining halt. It's important to note that threads like this are pretty much entirely raised by people who aren't actually

Re: [Wikimedia-l] COI editing by WMF staff

2014-04-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 April 2014 22:05, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: You haven't mentioned it on this list, but you actually accused Zack of violating the sockpuppetry policy on his talk page, and you threaten to pursue further action. But the most cursory review of the sockpuppetry policy, which I assume

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 April 2014 13:03, Craig Franklin cfrank...@halonetwork.net wrote: Grants directed to the development specific functionality that Wikimedia can use and which can later be included in other project's core offerings? Sure, I don't think anyone has a problem with that. But I think that

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 April 2014 21:08, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: It's a difficult question. I'm in favour in general, and I think it's a good idea to support projects that we use and need the money. The problem I have with it (and that is absent in your points above) is in how far we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Sponsorship/donations to other organizations

2014-04-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 April 2014 21:57, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also personally support in-kind donations (i.e. dedicate an FTE or portion of an FTE to integration work that benefits a non-profit, or implements a feature that is requested for a specific platform, etc.). Training or consultation

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 April 2014 11:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: I'm used to the secrecy, but I find it deeply disturbing that such a comment could have been made during a public workshop in passing; however, it would fit perfectly in the alleged divisions between some chapters and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fuck the community, who cares

2014-04-07 Thread David Gerard
On 7 April 2014 22:40, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: I'm not sure I want to be subscribed to this mailing list any more. :-( What happened to the intelligent conversation that used to take place here? This year, Fae and Russavia. - d.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Updating the typography on all Wikimedia sites

2014-03-26 Thread David Gerard
On 27 March 2014 01:38, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2. Non-Wikipedia projects on Tuesday, April 1th. Closer! Getting closer! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2014-03-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 March 2014 13:31, Daniel Zahn dz...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote It's hard to credit that people are still pushing for the WMF to accept Bitcoin payments after the worlds major venue for trading them, the Magic: The Gathering

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-03-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 March 2014 16:31, Chris McKenna cmcke...@sucs.org wrote: These days I wouldn't dare upload an image that was not either my own work or public doman due to life+100 because I couldn't guarantee that it wont be delted. Even with my own work I'm wary because of recent cases of amateur

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-03-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 March 2014 16:56, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: On 3/2/14, 5:31 PM, Chris McKenna wrote: There is a further disconnect in that Commons is taking an increasingly ultra-conservative approach to the definition of Free, whereas most other projects are working to a definition of Free for

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-03-02 Thread David Gerard
On 2 March 2014 13:51, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Its a pretty accurate description. What do you think the law says? It's possible, if you want people and organisations to stop their moves against you, that snideness and word play may not serve to convince them that you have any evidenced

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 February 2014 08:27, Delirium delir...@hackish.org wrote: But the other Wikimedia projects are *also* supposed to share that goal: of producing a Free-as-in-freedom encyclopedia whose contents can be safely reused and adapted by a wide range of other people and organizations, who should

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 February 2014 16:05, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 February 2014 08:18, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: This supports what I noted: Commons increasingly just can't be relied upon as a repository for the other Wikimedia projects. Given the general failure of such projects

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 February 2014 22:03, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: We remain convinced that something is fundamentally wrong when its practical result is self-inflicting the highest possible loss of contents. And we remain convinced that there is space for a way more prudent implementation of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA

2014-02-26 Thread David Gerard
On 24 February 2014 20:51, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: However, over the last months certain Wikimedia Commons administrators have conducted massive deletions of these contents, in many cases involving entire categories. The burden of proof has been inverted: instead of having to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Open letter on open letters (Was: Open letter from Wikimedia Argentina regarding URAA)

2014-02-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 February 2014 16:46, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: If anyone wants to create meaningful and lasting change to Commons, then please create a Request for Comment on Commons[1] rather than making a fuss and criticising Commons (volunteer) administrators in non-Commons discussion channels,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK slide scanner

2014-02-18 Thread David Gerard
On 19 February 2014 00:34, Newyorkbrad newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: I'm surprised not to see any replies to this particular thread. It seems to me to be a no-brainer (to use a nonce-word that I hate) that imaging equipment for local wiki organizations in a position to make good use of it to

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK slide scanner

2014-02-15 Thread David Gerard
be a useful thing that an organisation could use to make very good friends with GLAMs and individuals. - d. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_elephant -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: 15 February 2014 20:00 Subject: Re: [Wikimediauk-l] WMUK

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Textbooks Which Borrow Heavily from Wikipedia

2014-02-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 February 2014 21:41, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: I'm meeting with the Boundless team tomorrow. Excellent! How could they improve attribution? What download formats or APIs would we like to see to enable reposting to Wikibooks, or better cross-platform collaboration? Yeah,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Botopedia?

2014-02-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 February 2014 12:40, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Before you do that in the future, perhaps it would be a good idea to understand why a project had to, after years of trying to work with a valued editor and to mitigate the problems caused, finally remove him from the project.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Botopedia?

2014-02-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 February 2014 16:42, Harold Hidalgo hah...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps it would be a good idea to understand how bad ArbCom managed the Rich Farmbrough case by putting him against a slow death that would ultimately end in a year-long ban handled by a single administrator. Risker has not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Speakerthon update

2014-01-19 Thread David Gerard
On 18 January 2014 11:29, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: The Speakerthon event is in progress at New Broadcasting House in London: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:BBC_voice_project We've already added sound files to the (English) Wikipedia articles on Tim

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2014 14:19, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: FYI it's against the bylaws of at least 4 chapters (Argentina, Chile, Uruguay and Venezuela) to promote content in non-free formats. Do you have the precise wording handy? e.g. What constitutes promotion? - d.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2014 15:03, Ted Chien hsiangtai.ch...@gmail.com wrote: From my knowledge when I was working as an engineer in the multimedia software company back in 2006, if there's no transcoding to MP* formats, no patent fee is required. So if you upload MP4 files then download them without

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread David Gerard
A pile of press is linked at the top of the talk page. - d. On 17 January 2014 16:43, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: There's an article about the debate up from yesterday on Ars:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 January 2014 17:12, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: property yoke. Commons' great benefit to the world is no-questions-asked reusability, and I don't want to see it compromised in this fashion, license freebie or otherwise. I'm with User:David

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2014 13:37, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: 3. The CNET interview with MPEG-LA's legal folks seems to indicate a bizarre stance: Yes, they intentionally have scary, inconsistent and confusing licensing terms. This is to make sure people with deep pockets wind up paying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2014 14:14, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: This proposal asks to move to a free as in beer model, where content will be free to view, but not necessarily to reuse (and with the opaque license, it may not even be possible to tell). We could choose to make that change, but

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2014 16:02, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: Instead, I'd neutralize backdoored to something like, unwittingly shifting our cherished values for the worse. This is about the fourth time this has come around; I hope you can understand that it's harder to credit unwittingly

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 January 2014 15:36, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Todd Allen toddmal...@gmail.com wrote: This proposal asks to move to a free as in beer model, where content will be free to view, but not necessarily to reuse (and with the opaque license, it may

Re: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: Should we support MP4 Video on our sites?

2014-01-16 Thread David Gerard
It is important to note that WMF itself is not in any way neutral on this issue: adding MPEG4 is explicitly listed as a 2014 goal for the Multimedia team. That is, it has already been determined that this is *going to happen*. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Multimedia/2013-14_Goals#Activities

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2014 14:42, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: What does indeed make a difference and creates a sense of human interaction is custom messaging over templated messaging. It's the human interaction bit. I was *delighted* when I got a thank you for an edit, and really

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 January 2014 21:20, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 14 January 2014 12:29, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: I'd rather call is a systemic bias which makes us favor standardised technological whizbangs just because we can measure them rather than for an actual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 January 2014 20:28, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: For 1: because it'd be impossible to accurately associate notifications with the person, I assume. Apparently that's the reason. However, being able to thank IP contributors for their contribution would be FANTASTIC. Saying

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thanking anonymous users

2014-01-10 Thread David Gerard
by accident. Kevin Rutherford Sent from my iPhone On Jan 10, 2014, at 4:03 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 January 2014 20:28, Oliver Keyes oke...@wikimedia.org wrote: For 1: because it'd be impossible to accurately associate notifications with the person, I assume. Apparently

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Relationship between Wikimedia and oDesk

2014-01-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 January 2014 12:12, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's expressly forbidden, 'frowned upon' would be the words I'd use. Apart from that, I have a feeling this whole thread is a storm in less than a glass of water. Odesk is a system where people can offer or take

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF employee writing articles for $300

2014-01-05 Thread David Gerard
On 6 January 2014 00:23, Russavia russavia.wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, this is not being brought up because of anything to do with your own vicious and odious personal attacks on individuals on Commons in any manner whatsoever. Back under the bridge. - d.

[Wikimedia-l] Porn blocking in the UK: en:wp blocks on O2

2013-12-22 Thread David Gerard
For your amusement: http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Porn blocking in the UK: en:wp blocks on O2

2013-12-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 December 2013 19:31, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 December 2013 13:35, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: For your amusement: http://pseudomonas.dreamwidth.org/120535.html We are strictly-HTTPS to censorious regimes like the UK, aren't we? If people chose to opt

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution: Media about living people

2013-12-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 December 2013 12:25, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote: Undue or unsourced negative information about living people is one aspect of that, and what most of the formal BLP-related policy, and the process around things like OTRS, is intended to address. The flipside is undue or unsourced

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-11 Thread David Gerard
On 10 December 2013 23:13, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 11/12/13 06:58, Tomasz W. Kozlowski wrote: I'm sure those reading this list can Google the topic themselves, so I won't link to the many angry discussion that are taking place on the interwebs right now; I tried

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's accept Bitcoin as a donation method

2013-12-11 Thread David Gerard
It's *completely* wrong to call these things Ponzi schemes. *Technically*, they're pump-and-dumps. - d. On 11 Dec 2013 10:59, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: I demand that the Wikimedia Foundation start accepting the following: Litecoin Namecoin PPCoin Feathercoin Craftcoin

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface

2013-12-10 Thread David Gerard
There's a whole site full of possible inspirations: http://tabcloseddidntread.com/ https://medium.com/i-m-h-o/a30bbe8b54a5 Perhaps next year? - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fundraising banner obscuring site interface

2013-12-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 December 2013 14:24, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 12/10/2013 03:07 AM, David Gerard wrote: There's a whole site full of possible inspirations: Mind you, you are comparing apples (a small floaty reminder that /can/ overlap with part of the sidebar when scrolling

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Textbooks Which Borrow Heavily from Wikipedia

2013-11-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 November 2013 07:26, James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com wrote: They are under a CC BY SA license and if you follow the links seen here http://books.google.ca/books?id=7avpQBAJpg=PA2058 they do eventually attribute Wikipedia. They are being offered for free on amazon.com

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Wikimania 2015 - Call for Jury volunteers

2013-11-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 November 2013 18:58, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Yes if it's South enough to be in the middle of the Channel for best neutrality. Jersey 2015! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Commons-l] LibreOffice's LibreLogo and diagram generation

2013-11-03 Thread David Gerard
and diagram generation To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List common...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com David Gerard, 02/11/2013 23:08: I'm going holy crap! at what you can do with LibreLogo for diagram generation. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki

Re: [Wikimedia-l] New access to non-public information policy, re-ID requirements and data retention

2013-10-23 Thread David Gerard
On 24 October 2013 00:07, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: On 10/23/2013 07:01 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote: (I myself can think of one and only one, but am curious if there are others.) I can also think of exactly one off the cuff (and it is almost certainly the same); but I can think of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Education] How to force to enable Visual Editor

2013-10-16 Thread David Gerard
On 16 October 2013 06:08, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Chris, as Ziko put it. Would you like a novice driver with a Learner's permit to drive on a Crowded street or a High speed expressway or in a deserted ground? Visual Editor for newbies has caused a lot of pages to

[Wikimedia-l] Someone wants to put their promotional photo on Wikipedia. What's best practices?

2013-10-11 Thread David Gerard
I just got a phone call and followup email today asking about how to upload a photo to be on a Wikipedia article. This has got to be an incredibly common request. What's a standardised way to handle it? Here's the text I wrote back with: === OK - the key point with contributing a picture to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Someone wants to put their promotional photo on Wikipedia. What's best practices?

2013-10-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 October 2013 20:49, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: For this category of people we have OTRS: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/OTRS#Licensing_images:_when_do_I_contact_OTRS.3F :) If you want to cut the queue, just contact a volunteer to have the ticket processed. Yes, there's

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Someone wants to put their promotional photo on Wikipedia. What's best practices?

2013-10-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 October 2013 20:56, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials Oh, that's pretty much exactly what I was thinking of. Thank you! - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Someone wants to put their promotional photo on Wikipedia. What's best practices?

2013-10-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 October 2013 20:58, Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net wrote: Can't you point them towards: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_licenses to explain a lot of this? I've just followed up with: === Here are useful pages to read

Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo

2013-10-09 Thread David Gerard
Referring to John and Federico as these two individuals comes across as attempting to depersonalise and deprecate your opposition. Are you quite sure this is the effect you're after? On 9 October 2013 07:13, James Alexander jalexan...@wikimedia.org wrote: The legal team have provided some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] It's time to reclaim the community logo Message-ID

2013-10-09 Thread David Gerard
The big problem is that it's pretty obvious WMF could legally obliterate Federico and John, and pointing the legal equivalent of an M1 Abrams tank at them - as you have - does give the impression that this is the aim. I suggest, however, that this would not only fail to win hearts and minds, but

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] access to journals

2013-09-24 Thread David Gerard
fyi -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathleen McCook klmcc...@gmail.com Date: 24 September 2013 12:25 Subject: [WikiEN-l] access to journals To: English Wikipedia wikie...@lists.wikimedia.org In an effort to enhance access options for people who aren’t affiliated with

[Wikimedia-l] Planned school curriculum by MPAA

2013-09-24 Thread David Gerard
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/09/mpaa-school-propaganda/ “This thinly disguised corporate propaganda is inaccurate and inappropriate,” says Mitch Stoltz, an intellectual property attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, who reviewed the material at WIRED’s request. “It suggests,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 September 2013 13:06, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: Drafting on wiki is more of a good process than an ideal way to publish the content, in my opinion. why? Because turning MediaWiki from a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia blog moving to WordPress.com

2013-09-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 September 2013 20:03, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: Mediawiki is indeed the most versatile platform, but that just means it's okay at most things. It doesn't mean it's better than other platforms explicitly designed for a particular job ;-) Wordpress is a ridiculously

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Internet.org and Wikipedia Zero ?

2013-08-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 August 2013 10:28, Jens Best jens.b...@wikimedia.de wrote: I would suggest to keep distance to this wannabe-NGO which more or less only exists to serve the interests of commercial players which mostly do * not* stand for a free and open web. internet.org is nothing what will serve the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 August 2013 20:39, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: YMMV, but I'd prefer if the solid value returned from my donation went to someone in more dire need of it - i.e. if my donation could be used to directly improve access for others who may not enjoy it. Indirectly any donation to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 August 2013 13:57, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.com wrote: At Wikimania there was (not for the first time) discussion that not much support and advice there is available to Chapter board members. On Sunday afternoon a small group of us (myself, Markus Glaser, Michał Buczyński,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal - Training for Wikimedia movement boards

2013-08-13 Thread David Gerard
On 13 August 2013 15:39, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: True. Even worse, many do not even try to be board members (or active chapter members, for that matter) because they (think they) don't have enough experience. It's crucial to ensure the availability of growing paths

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Visual Editor temporary opt-out

2013-08-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 August 2013 07:44, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: That said, this doubt is tempered by the _enormous_ selection bias we see in the on-wiki discussion. Namely that (a) the discussion has only been advertised to logged-in users, and (b) that nearly everyone participating in the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] An idea that may improve Wikipedia's fundraising

2013-08-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 August 2013 18:46, Matthew Walker mwal...@wikimedia.org wrote: In addition what use would giving a donor a DVD set serve? They clearly already have access to the site -- with the caveat that some countries have restricted use restrictions from the local government. If instead we are

Re: [Wikimedia-l] a compromise proposal for visual editor dogfooding

2013-08-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 August 2013 18:46, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: I wonder sometimes if maintaining help/documentation pages would be a sensible thing for WMF to have a (part?) time staffer working on, but I guess this gets into the muddy area of paying people for volunteer tasks The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why the WP will never be a real encyclopaedia

2013-08-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 August 2013 22:19, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: So you mostly agree with m, but prefer to come out knee-jerking first and only after that showing that you somehow agree. No, he's saying you're full of it, because you are. Under your definition, there has never been an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 10:59, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: de:wp convinced you. What would it take to convince you on en:wp? (I'm asking for a clear objective criterion here. If you can only offer a subjective one, please explain how de:wp convinced you when en:wp hasn't.) Hi

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 19:27, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:36 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Erik, James - how did de:wp convinced you when en:wp hasn't? I don't really agree with your framing - it's not about who's convincing who, but being

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 20:48, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the concern derives from one of the subpages of the article: https://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/7/31/1375269604628/KS8-001.jpg (Credit to David Gerard for digging that out; this same issue

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 21:00, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 July 2013 20:48, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: I believe the concern derives from one of the subpages of the article: https://image.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/audio/video/2013/7/31/1375269604628/KS8-001.jpg (Credit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 21:47, Ryan Lane rl...@wikimedia.org wrote: Why would we expect that we weren't being targeted? Knowing what people are looking up is powerful knowledge. That doesn't make it one dot less reprehensible. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l

Re: [Wikimedia-l] NSA

2013-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2013 23:01, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's just naive. Of course it was always denied until it became impossible to deny it. That's how these things work. But I have honestly assumed for many years that virtually everything transmitted over almost any electronic

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 07:39, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: I can dream up horrors you can't even imagine. Consider a template consisting if two single quotes. For a demonstration, see http://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Martijn_Hoekstra/Lovecraftian_horror2 D-: That's like a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 09:06, Martijn Hoekstra martijnhoeks...@gmail.com wrote: 6. Announce a date from where on saving a page with a transcluded legacy template will be blocked. Expect public outcry. An important consideration that all developers must keep in mind is that though the current syntax

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 15:44, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: It's interesting how an essentially social question (being welcoming to new people by a Visual editor) turns quickly into a debate on software. .nl has yet to experience the software in question, and the social issues

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 17:03, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: If the overwhelming community sentiment is that the cost of continuous improvement with a large scale user base is larger than the benefit (as it was on dewiki), we'll switch back (or to a compromise), and use a more rigid set of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 21:47, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: Why should a consensus of any arbitrary number of power editors be allowed to define the defaults for all editors, including anonymous and OK - so why were those people listened to on de:wp? What happened there that they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Let's have the courage to sit down and talk about VisualEditor

2013-07-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 July 2013 22:27, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 30 July 2013 21:47, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: Why should a consensus of any arbitrary number of power editors be allowed to define the defaults for all editors, including anonymous and OK - so why were those

Re: [Wikimedia-l] On the gentrification of Wikipedia, by Superbass (was: Visual Editor)

2013-07-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 July 2013 23:41, Marc A. Pelletier m...@uberbox.org wrote: Nostalgia for the good old days of hand-spun wikitables with baroque hacked together syntax notwithstanding. MediaWiki wikitext should indeed be set on fire and put in a bin and fired into the sun, with any other horrible and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Feedback for the Wikimedia Foundation

2013-07-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 July 2013 03:12, Everton Zanella Alvarenga everton.alvare...@okfn.org wrote: Maybe a new community (less conservative?) to build a good encyclopedia can come up if a new platformn be invented? Hence power users as a snarl word. After the uprising of the 17th of June The Secretary of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The soft underbelly of the WP: the sponsored private fiefdoms that thrive in the blind spots

2013-07-23 Thread David Gerard
On 23 July 2013 12:07, Rui Correia correia@gmail.com wrote: I've have my setting on receive copy of own emails, but did not receive this email that I sent out. Can someone please confirm? It went out. What you're seeing is that GMail refuses to show you messages you sent to a list, even

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 July 2013 00:06, Richard Symonds richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk wrote: I'd say that yes, you want uniform pictures, with a uniform idea behind them. For example, all professional, or all slightly informal, or all crazy. It doesn't matter so much about tattoos, but they need to all have

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images

2013-07-15 Thread David Gerard
On 15 July 2013 21:41, Matthew Roth mr...@wikimedia.org wrote: I find this to be a terribly sexy proposition. I would urge geni to become the new manager for equipment approvals. geni is a Commons admin. Nitpickers so formidable that Counsel has expressed his admiration for their l33t

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