I wrote an open letter to Lila because I saw Philippe Beaudette saying he was
taking advice from English Wikipedia Arbcom on the matter of offsite
harassment. The problem is that is that Arbcom has an history of harassing. So
it should not be giving any advice on the matter of stopping it.
To
Uhm, was JurgenNL steward? I thought TBloemink was, not JurgenNL.
-Yena Hong (Revi)
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2015. 2. 2. 오후 11:49에 Trillium Corsage trillium2...@yandex.com님이 작성:
I wrote an open letter to Lila because I saw Philippe Beaudette saying he
was taking advice from
I wasted the few minutes necessary to read Trillium's blog post, and I
don't recommend anyone else make that same mistake. He's taken a few
incidents in a 7 year period, presented them utterly without the totally
necessary context, and ignored any evidence that might make it clear how
silly and
One is a steward the other is an administrator, I may have reversed their
roles, but they are definitely the two that stalked Moiramoira.
Thanks for the notification, I'll doublecheck which is which and see about
correcting that.
Trillium Corsage
02.02.2015, 14:55, Hong, Yena
Nathan, there is no context that could possibly justify those evidenced
incidents of harassment and stalking. There is no excuse. The information is
out there for anyone who wants to read about them, but it's wrong to attempt to
rationalize them in a sea of details and that's why I didn't do
It is true that our Arbitrators have not always behaved as we would wish,
and the cases that Trillium brings are are especially egregious, those
familiar with the the Arbcom leaks or indeed who have followed the actions
of the Committee, or dealt with individual Arbitrators on the English
If the WMF is consulting any specific entity of an individual Wikimedia
project out of 800 for a crosswiki matter, that's ridiculous, period. I
don't see why bother looking into the specific merits of the entity in
question, or the allegations about them.
Nemo
Because the Arbitration Committee does have experience dealing with
harassment. Not many projects have such a body dedicated to dealing with
conflict. You are of course right that a general consultation should be
made, and I'm sure if there are other bodies you can point to the WMF would
love to
