Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-06-29 Thread Pine W
Hello, July 1 is almost here. Can we get an update about the status of the draft revisions and the Board deliberations? Thanks, Pine ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-06-01 Thread Pine W
Since Wikimania is in July this year, perhaps we could do this there: public review discussion of the WMF plan, and using that as a point of departure to continue the discussion of planning from WMCON. Sam I would suggest not using this WMF proposed plan as a starting point for talking

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-06-01 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
hi, as a stepping down FDC member I agree with Risker only to some extent. Sure, the FDC will have trouble with capacity for evaluation of the whole plan. However, it is possible to single out some programs (the famous 'core' vs. 'non-core' division) and comment on them. It does not exclude a

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-31 Thread Pine W
Hi Sam, That all sounds good. A couple of quick points: 1. What is meant by excellent goals and plans is open to interpretation and dependent on context. For example, an excellent annual plan for a new user group will look much different than an excellent annual plan for WMFR or WMF, and I'm not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-31 Thread Amy Vossbrinck
Sent from my iPhone On May 30, 2015, at 4:01 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: @Garfield - I would love to hear what sort of community feedback you are hoping for; and what you would ideally get out of it. Was this past week's input helpful? Are you looking for additional

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-31 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: 1. What is meant by excellent goals and plans is open to interpretation and dependent on context. For example, an excellent annual plan for a new user group will look much different than an excellent annual plan for WMFR or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16 (Ido)

2015-05-31 Thread ido ivri
From: Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com To: Dariusz Jemielniak dar...@alk.edu.pl, Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16 Message-ID: caatu9wlhkf44ogkagyq2_-j1n_8kpwrturnok5

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-30 Thread Sam Klein
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 11:38 AM, Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com wrote: 2015-05-28 11:42 GMT+02:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: The WMF talks about eating your own dog food[2] in terms of engineering, but it would be good if something similar would take place in the annual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-30 Thread Pine W
Perhaps in July we can have an office hour to discuss improvements to annual planning for all orgs including WMF? Annual plans for any organization are a pain to develop and involve some guesswork about what will happen during the year. However, given the natures of annual fundraising and grant

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-30 Thread Samuel Klein
@Garfield - I would love to hear what sort of community feedback you are hoping for; and what you would ideally get out of it. Was this past week's input helpful? Are you looking for additional feedback over the coming weeks? Liam writes: It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-29 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
perhaps you're right. But keep in mind that the FDC has been set up specifically as a committee advising the Board in this specific area, and is composed of people with particular competence in finance, grants, etc. Whichever body is chosen though, a longer feedback/comment period is necessary.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Pine W
It does make sense to me that there would be at least a month between publication of the full draft plan, including the documentation that requested, and the closure of the comment period. In its current form the plan is too vague for me to support it as written. I think that the WMF audit

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Liam Wyatt
This draft WMF annual plan was first published on Meta on the 25th.[1] It was then announced by the mailing list late on the 26th. Yet the document itself says, The comment period for this version will close May 29, 2015. This gives approximately 3 days to engage in community consultation on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-05-28 17:38 GMT+02:00 Cristian Consonni kikkocrist...@gmail.com: This. in particular: It would be good if the WMF would *try to set a good example* by following the rules that it sets for others, itself. (as a clarification, I strong agree with Liam, especially in the point above). I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
I think it is safe to say that the FDC had a pretty clear consensus since the very beginning that WMF should lead by example. Also, the FDC's addition to general community feedback is possibly the only practical way to deal with this issue - as the Board receives the plan too late to make major

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Dariusz Jemielniak
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Dariusz Jemielniak da...@friend.pl To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 18:08:08 +0200 Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16 Hi Liam, Within the FDC, during the very

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-28 Thread Cristian Consonni
2015-05-28 11:42 GMT+02:00 Liam Wyatt liamwy...@gmail.com: The WMF talks about eating your own dog food[2] in terms of engineering, but it would be good if something similar would take place in the annual planning too... Chapters are required to submit their annual plans to a two *month*

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-27 Thread Tilman Bayer
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi Pine, I have answered your questions in the text of your email. Regards, Garfield On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: ... * Are SMART goals documented for each department? If so,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Garfield Byrd
Hi Pine, I have answered your questions in the text of your email. Regards, Garfield On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Garfield, Thanks for this update. * Is this intended to be the last annual plan, as WMF shifts to a quarterly planning cycle? If so,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Pine W
Garfield, Sounds good. I look forward to seeing further development of the Plan. Thank you for your work on this. Partially because of my involvement with Cascadia Wikimedians' planning and budgeting, I'm aware of how much work is likely involved in developing WMF's annual plan. Pine On May 26,

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Garfield Byrd
The draft Annual Plan for FY 15-16 https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2015-16 is available for ​community input and ​ comments. Please post any suggestions on the Talk page

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Foundation Annual Plan for FY 15-16

2015-05-26 Thread Pine W
Hi Garfield, Thanks for this update. * Is this intended to be the last annual plan, as WMF shifts to a quarterly planning cycle? If so, how will Fundraising know how much money to raise each quarter/year? * Are SMART goals documented for each department? If so, where can we see them? * I see