Hi all,
Considering that at this point it is James vs. the world, and has been for
quite some time ... have we flogged this dead horse enough yet? [1]
--Ed
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:HORSEMEAT
On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
Thomas
Pine wrote:
...
I think Erik addressed your question about pay in a way that is very
reasonable and I would ask you to re-read his comments
Thank you very much for asking me to do this. I overlooked the video
mentioned in Erik's comments and I see now that it may be the root of
the problems
James,
Is there evidence that WMF has a worrisome talent retention problem? Gayle
seems to think that the answer is generally no. If there is evidence to the
contrary that has more weight than anecdotal Glassdoor reviews, I would be
interested in seeing that evidence.
I would distinguish
Hoi,
In my country health care insurance is compulsory. If anything this means
that everyone can see a doctor and believe it or not, investment in health
care is beneficial to the wealth of a nation.
I am appalled that people consider health care something that is best left
to the individual. It
If you know nothing about surveys or statistics it is probably a good idea
not to describe a properly calculated metric (yes, I sat down and did the
math) as absurd, and then claim efficacy of your own informal survey.
Just sayin.
Incidentally I am not sure your point about the glassdoor reviews
James,
I'm a little confounded as to why you're still looking to Glassdoor as your
primary source of information on employee satisfaction after Gayle indicated
that she has much more comprehensive data on this subject from the employee
survey.
Also, I will stand up and say that I, for one, am
On 5 January 2013 19:32, ENWP Pine deyntest...@hotmail.com wrote:
Also, I will stand up and say that I, for one, am not a fan of WMF trying to
match market pay in the SF area. I am interested WMF in retaining qualified
and motivated employees, and I am interested in employee job satisfaction
On Jan 5, 2013 7:51 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone in IT knows that there's such a thing as charity scale, where
you get paid less because you're working for a nonprofit in exchange
for less stress and/or doing actual good in the world.`
Less stress? Wikipedia?
--
Andy
Sorry to top post - but, I'm just replying to the thread in general.
One of my biggest frustrations with this thread is that it seems to
focus on technical staff.
The Wikimedia Foundation is a non profit. There is an entire department
of people who do programming in grants/education/and dare
On 4 January 2013 18:17, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
And then again we would be comparing the salary I had in such company
after 5 years of (hopefully good) work, not the one I had at the beginning.
It would be very unusual for an employer to disregard previous
experience when setting a
On 01/04/2013 10:53 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
On 4 January 2013 18:17, Quim Gil q...@wikimedia.org wrote:
And then again we would be comparing the salary I had in such company
after 5 years of (hopefully good) work, not the one I had at the beginning.
It would be very unusual for an employer
On 1/4/2013 12:17 PM, James Salsman wrote:
Even the best medical plans don't protect medical debtors the way that
the ability to finance long term personal debt with greater salary and
savings does.
Right, and the best approach would be for employees to get no health
insurance at all, I'm sure
Does anyone object to the idea of surveying donors to find their opinions
on whether the Foundation should pay market rate for labor?
I would object to the precedent being set that donors from around the
world, however old or young, are able to directly decide the salaries of
staff at the WMF.
Michael Snow wrote:
... You think that having people mortgage their future and simply
giving them more cash, which they don't ultimately enjoy other
than to pay loans at distressed interest rates, is a greater benefit
to them than providing the best insurance coverage we can offer?
No, I
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013 2:54 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm proud of people like Leslie who work for less money than other
opportunities but for a cause. They stand for their beliefs and their
values, I strongly
On 3 January 2013 08:08, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
Does that sound like the
kind of people who would want to risk losing talent because their
donations were limited to a fundraising goal set based on the
blatantly false assertion that we aren't able to raise enough money to
pay
On 1/3/2013 12:08 AM, James Salsman wrote:
Leslie, the most frequent cause of bankruptcy in the U.S. is
unanticipated medical expenses. If one of your family members faced
such unanticipated expenses, and you realized you could save them from
bankruptcy and perhaps even save their life by
Le 29/12/2012 22:14, Leslie Carr a écrit :
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 29/12/2012 17:01, Leslie Carr a écrit :
I knew that I wouldn't be getting
bonuses, stock options, massages, breakfast, lunch, dinner, baristas,
onsite personal trainers, onsite
On 2 January 2013 19:25, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 29/12/2012 22:14, Leslie Carr a écrit :
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 29/12/2012 17:01, Leslie Carr a écrit :
I knew that I wouldn't be getting
bonuses, stock options, massages,
Le 02/01/2013 18:42, Oliver Keyes a écrit :
On 2 January 2013 19:25, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
You're comparing your standard of living with extreme ways of life, and
you reach the conclusion that yours is moderate. However, if you compare
with the rest of mankind, you're still
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 2:50 PM, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
Le 02/01/2013 18:42, Oliver Keyes a écrit :
On 2 January 2013 19:25, cyrano cyrano.faw...@gmail.com wrote:
You're comparing your standard of living with extreme ways of life,
and
you reach the conclusion that yours is
On Dec 30, 2012, at 3:40 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
The April fundraiser is on translated messages IIRC.
I'm sorry, I don't understand what this means. Where are plans for the
April fundraiser being discussed?
It means multivariate testing in X languages is
The April fundraiser is on translated messages IIRC. Your suggestion is not at
all practical for the fundraising team to implement.
Also it is terrible idea, which ignores the high costs of planning to hold
deliberations in a few months which is designed to nullify the results of
recently
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value
goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to
optimize the messaging from volunteer submissions in advance, then run
the whole
Le 29/12/2012 17:01, Leslie Carr a écrit :
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value
goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to
optimize the messaging from volunteer
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Leslie Carr lc...@wikimedia.org wrote:
That's accurate. But there's no dentists onsite, no massage center, no
chefs, no barista making my latte, etc, etc
I'm a pretty good barista, so for a small fee, I'd be happy to make your
coffee ;)
I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis... You only seem
to be talking about one variable - the message.
On Dec 28, 2012 9:46 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value
goal, we agree to use multivariate
That would be complex, and could be a disaster... I'd appreciate some input
from folks like Tango.
On Dec 28, 2012 9:46 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value
goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B
I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis
I mean as in the tests done May 16, September 20, and October 9
reported at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/We_Need_A_Breakthrough
without adjusting the best performing pull-down delivery combined
banner/landing page from
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 1:45 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
How about for the April fundraiser, instead of setting a dollar value
goal, we agree to use multivariate analysis instead of A/B testing to
optimize the messaging from volunteer submissions in advance, then run
the whole
I'm on a train so this will be brief... But let's say we do what you
suggest, and it only raises 90% of what is needed. What then?
I've had to pare back WMUKs budget in the past few weeks to what the FDC
granted. It's difficult enough to do on a smaller budget, I dread to think
how the WMF would
On Dec 28, 2012 10:12 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not quite sure what you mean by multivariate analysis
I mean as in the tests done May 16, September 20, and October 9
reported at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2012/We_Need_A_Breakthrough
without adjusting
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