Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Sam, The main misconception (which is understandable, but also often pointed out already) is that Wiki Loves Monuments can be fundamentally different projects from a goals-and-outcomes point of view, based on the interests and strenghts of the local organizers and the local situation. In some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Lodewijk
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Maria Cruz mc...@wikimedia.org wrote: snip All in all it is good to have something 'to shoot at' but I would prefer that these reports are produces more in concert with the stakeholders involved and affected, rather than 'announced' and 'presented' to the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Edward Galvez
Hi Lodewijk, Thanks for your feedback about the process. It's been very valuable. I have a few follow up questions below: Sure, the team did reach out in the collection phase - after all, without the data such evaluation would be impossible. But after that, the conclusions were drafted

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] This week on the Wikimedia Blog

2015-05-07 Thread Fabrice Florin
Hi folks, Here are some of the stories featured this week on the Wikimedia Blog: • It’s time for some #tastydata https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/07/time-for-tasty-data/ • The #100wikidays challenge https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/05/06/100wikidays-challenge/ • Editing Wikipedia as community

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
Regaring measuerment of editor retention - this is tricky - as in fact many participant created new accounts only to join the contest. Some of them had accounts on Wikipedia (but different) - some others - abandoned their accounts and created a new ones for various reasons (the most trival - they

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Anders Wennersten
Editor retention really consists of three components *new temporary contributors. WLM helps here, and even if they leave after a few edits this is of value for the projects. They have learned to edit, and will be more open to correct an error or complement an article very much later when using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikinews and free journalism

2015-05-07 Thread Aleksey Bilogur
There has been coverage in the Signpost. Try following through this link: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Sandboxaction=editsection=newpreview=yespreload=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Templates/Index_preloadpreloadparams[]=wikinews On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Rodrigo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Pine W
Hi, I wasn't involved in this evaluation, but I would like to say that, as someone who recently worked for WMF Learning and Evaluation, I believe that the LE team is interested in producing useful and accurate reports. So, I am optimistic that feedback from the community about methodology and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Lodewijk
Hi Edward, Thanks for the questions. The Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list would have made a very logical starting place to ask for initial feedback. But also sending an email to the people who shared their data with you to work with in the first place, or people who worked on internal

[Wikimedia-l] Organizational effectiveness research for Wikimedia organizations

2015-05-07 Thread Winifred Olliff
Greetings, Wikimedia colleagues! In November 2014, we launched a pilot self-assessment tool for Wikimedia organizations to help us identify areas where we as Wikimedia organizations might leverage our strengths and address our challenges to achieve better results. We have some aggregate data

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Maria Cruz
On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I hope that at some point WLM organizers can be given the tools, enthusiasm and support to create their own evaluation on a larger scale. That way I hope that some of the flaws can be avoided thanks to a better

[Wikimedia-l] Evaluation by WMF of Wiki Loves Monuments is failing to understand the community

2015-05-07 Thread Mohammed Bachounda
I organized a contest Wiki Loves Monuments wiki and loves earth in algeria and coordinate on the rest of each arabic country who has organised the contest I had a lot of fun to organize during 2013 2014 till 2015 now In algeria ;with astonishment ;many do not know what that meant wikipedia;

[Wikimedia-l] Wikinews and free journalism

2015-05-07 Thread Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton
Hello guys, I'm struggling to find any kind of discussion/research about wikinews and the relation with free journalism (free as defined here: http://freedomdefined.org/Definition). Did you know any kind of paper, article about it? Or even articles about free journalism (free mean fre,

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: Invitation to WMF April 2015 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, May 7, 18:00 UTC

2015-05-07 Thread Praveena Maharaj
REMINDER: This meeting starts in 30 minutes. -- Forwarded message -- From: Praveena Maharaj pmaha...@wikimedia.org Date: Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:55 PM Subject: Invitation to WMF April 2015 Metrics Activities Meeting: Thursday, May 7, 18:00 UTC To: Wikimedia Mailing List