Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread John Mark Vandenberg
On 16 Mar 2016 07:07, "Moushira Elamrawy"  wrote:
>
> Hello Fae,
>
> Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context.
> Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
> fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
> generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.
>
> I am not sure though if the factors that you have listed are relevant; I
> think it is a matter of using a word in a certain context where it
actually
> fits, without realizing how a broader audience would perceive it.
>
> In any case, thanks for the note :-)
>
> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_%28creative_process%29

That is a woeful article, for a useless word with no fixed meaning. As far
as I can tell the component all usages agree on is "thinking" is involved.
See the many comments on the talk page.

A good test for whether a word should be used in communications to a wide
audience is how widely translated a Wikipedia article is. If it would be
translated to a different concept in other languages, it isn't a good
concept for this type of communication.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Pete Forsyth
But...but...Moushira just acknowledged the point. Gracefully, I think.
Can't we simply trust her to incorporate the feedback into future
announcements?

For anybody who had trouble discerning what the consultation is about, its
first question makes it clear:

"How can we make Wikipedia more interactive for Readers?"

Great question.
-Pete

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 8:39 PM, Craig Franklin 
wrote:

> Hi Moushira,
>
> The problem when you use jargon like "ideation" in this context is that
> you're essentially excluding anyone who isn't familiar with the particular
> terminology used in the field.  Especially so when there are plenty of
> plain-English alternatives that can be used in its place.  Note that there
> is a whole bunch of thought from experts that that word in particular is a
> particularly obnoxious piece of jargon:
>
> * http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/26/pf/corporate-jargon/
> * https://hbr.org/2008/08/why-jargon-feeds-on-lazy-minds.html
> *
>
> http://www.lifed.com/10-cringeworthy-business-jargon-examples-that-should-be-banned
>
> It's hardly the worst example I've seen out of the WMF, but while we're on
> the topic it should be pointed out.  Just because it's used elsewhere, it
> doesn't mean that the WMF has to fall into the same trap.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
> On 16 March 2016 at 10:07, Moushira Elamrawy 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Fae,
> >
> > Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context.
> > Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
> > fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
> > generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.
> >
> > I am not sure though if the factors that you have listed are relevant; I
> > think it is a matter of using a word in a certain context where it
> actually
> > fits, without realizing how a broader audience would perceive it.
> >
> > In any case, thanks for the note :-)
> >
> > [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_%28creative_process%29
> >
> > Moushira
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Fæ  wrote:
> >
> > > On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy 
> > > wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early
> > > engagement
> > > > in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
> > > ...
> > >
> > > Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
> > > however there seems to be a lot of odd jargon in Wikimedia
> > > announcements over the last few months. It would be great to see more
> > > 'official' emails aimed at volunteers, written in plain and
> > > grammatically complete English. Phrases like "ideation phase" may be
> > > frequently used during meetings at the Wikimedia Foundation offices,
> > > but are unlikely to be heard in real life by volunteer contributors,
> > > and are unlikely to be easily understood outside of corporate America,
> > > especially by those without English as their first language.
> > >
> > > Sorry again about picking at your announcement rather than any other,
> > > it just stood out today.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Craig Franklin
Hi Moushira,

The problem when you use jargon like "ideation" in this context is that
you're essentially excluding anyone who isn't familiar with the particular
terminology used in the field.  Especially so when there are plenty of
plain-English alternatives that can be used in its place.  Note that there
is a whole bunch of thought from experts that that word in particular is a
particularly obnoxious piece of jargon:

* http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/26/pf/corporate-jargon/
* https://hbr.org/2008/08/why-jargon-feeds-on-lazy-minds.html
*
http://www.lifed.com/10-cringeworthy-business-jargon-examples-that-should-be-banned

It's hardly the worst example I've seen out of the WMF, but while we're on
the topic it should be pointed out.  Just because it's used elsewhere, it
doesn't mean that the WMF has to fall into the same trap.

Cheers,
Craig

On 16 March 2016 at 10:07, Moushira Elamrawy 
wrote:

> Hello Fae,
>
> Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context.
> Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
> fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
> generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.
>
> I am not sure though if the factors that you have listed are relevant; I
> think it is a matter of using a word in a certain context where it actually
> fits, without realizing how a broader audience would perceive it.
>
> In any case, thanks for the note :-)
>
> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_%28creative_process%29
>
> Moushira
>
> On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Fæ  wrote:
>
> > On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy 
> > wrote:
> > ...
> > > The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early
> > engagement
> > > in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
> > ...
> >
> > Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
> > however there seems to be a lot of odd jargon in Wikimedia
> > announcements over the last few months. It would be great to see more
> > 'official' emails aimed at volunteers, written in plain and
> > grammatically complete English. Phrases like "ideation phase" may be
> > frequently used during meetings at the Wikimedia Foundation offices,
> > but are unlikely to be heard in real life by volunteer contributors,
> > and are unlikely to be easily understood outside of corporate America,
> > especially by those without English as their first language.
> >
> > Sorry again about picking at your announcement rather than any other,
> > it just stood out today.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Fae
> > --
> > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

2016-03-15 Thread Deborah Tankersley
Hi Sam,

We're glad you're using the Portal page more than usual and we hope that
with upcoming future enhancements, you'll continue to enjoy it!

For your first question - we are currently focusing on the wikipedia.org
portal page at this time. We have no immediate plans to update the
individual wiki's with this code but that doesn't mean that anyone in the
community can't use our code to update another wiki to use the meta data
and images as we did, in the search results.

For your second question, we actually have a ticket
 open to look for input exactly
like that. When a user types in a few words that are not in the language
that has been previously selected, we're hoping to be able to switch to
that "new" language on the fly. I agree that it'll be a very neat feature
for us to have on the portal!

Thanks for your input!

Cheers,

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Klein  wrote:

> I'm using the portal much more these days!  Two thoughts, a few days in:
>
> = Is there a way to turn on thumbnailing on the individual language wikis
> too?
>
> = Auto-suggesting language based on charset would be nice.  when searching
> in multiple languages I always forget once to switch to the target language
> and end up getting search results for kanji on he.wp or for hebrew on ja.wp
>
> Thanks, SJ
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Michael Jahn 
> wrote:
>
> > I've played around a bit. Feels very cool!
> > Michael
> >
> > 2016-03-11 3:27 GMT+01:00 Deborah Tankersley  >:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
> > >  portal page with a brand new search box that
> is
> > > more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as
> available)
> > in
> > > the search results (see attached image).
> > >
> > > This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> > > JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript
> > enabled
> > > browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> > > ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> > > Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when
> > choosing
> > > a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> > > browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will
> > not
> > > be displayed.)
> > >
> > > We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> > > Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search
> > box.
> > > When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will
> be
> > > displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer
> to
> > > search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot
> of
> > > one of the ways we test our code, visually.
> > >
> > > We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
> > >
> > > On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
> > >
> > > Deb
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
Hello Fae,

Ideation phase [0], is a term widely used in product and design context.
Now, I see your point around how volunteers who are not related to these
fields, might not be familiar with it. Possibly something like, idea
generation, or brainstorming could have replaced it.

I am not sure though if the factors that you have listed are relevant; I
think it is a matter of using a word in a certain context where it actually
fits, without realizing how a broader audience would perceive it.

In any case, thanks for the note :-)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_%28creative_process%29

Moushira

On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 1:51 AM, Fæ  wrote:

> On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy 
> wrote:
> ...
> > The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early
> engagement
> > in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
> ...
>
> Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
> however there seems to be a lot of odd jargon in Wikimedia
> announcements over the last few months. It would be great to see more
> 'official' emails aimed at volunteers, written in plain and
> grammatically complete English. Phrases like "ideation phase" may be
> frequently used during meetings at the Wikimedia Foundation offices,
> but are unlikely to be heard in real life by volunteer contributors,
> and are unlikely to be easily understood outside of corporate America,
> especially by those without English as their first language.
>
> Sorry again about picking at your announcement rather than any other,
> it just stood out today.
>
> Thanks,
> Fae
> --
> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread
On 15 March 2016 at 22:33, Moushira Elamrawy  wrote:
...
> The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early engagement
> in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.
...

Hi, sorry to target your email with a more general observation,
however there seems to be a lot of odd jargon in Wikimedia
announcements over the last few months. It would be great to see more
'official' emails aimed at volunteers, written in plain and
grammatically complete English. Phrases like "ideation phase" may be
frequently used during meetings at the Wikimedia Foundation offices,
but are unlikely to be heard in real life by volunteer contributors,
and are unlikely to be easily understood outside of corporate America,
especially by those without English as their first language.

Sorry again about picking at your announcement rather than any other,
it just stood out today.

Thanks,
Fae
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[Wikimedia-l] User interaction on Wikipedia --call for submissions

2016-03-15 Thread Moushira Elamrawy
Greetings,

Following up on the reading strategy.

The reading team is launching an experiment that supports early engagement
in ideation phase, with a wide variety of users.

This aims at allowing a public space, where editors, staff and readers, can
submit and discuss ideas around our how to enhance user interaction with
content and with each other on Wikipedia.  We plan to run this for 4 weeks,
where after two weeks we can start to narrow down ideas and discuss them in
details.  Please check the link below, and feel free to submit ideas, ask
questions or leave a comment, and help us spread the word.

https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User_Interaction_Consultation

Best,
Moushira
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

2016-03-15 Thread Sam Klein
I'm using the portal much more these days!  Two thoughts, a few days in:

= Is there a way to turn on thumbnailing on the individual language wikis
too?

= Auto-suggesting language based on charset would be nice.  when searching
in multiple languages I always forget once to switch to the target language
and end up getting search results for kanji on he.wp or for hebrew on ja.wp

Thanks, SJ

On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 4:25 AM, Michael Jahn 
wrote:

> I've played around a bit. Feels very cool!
> Michael
>
> 2016-03-11 3:27 GMT+01:00 Deborah Tankersley :
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
> >  portal page with a brand new search box that is
> > more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available)
> in
> > the search results (see attached image).
> >
> > This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> > JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript
> enabled
> > browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> > ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> > Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when
> choosing
> > a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> > browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will
> not
> > be displayed.)
> >
> > We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> > Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search
> box.
> > When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
> > displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
> > search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot of
> > one of the ways we test our code, visually.
> >
> > We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
> >
> > On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
> >
> > Deb
> >
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> > Product Manager, Discovery
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

2016-03-15 Thread Deborah Tankersley
Hello,

We disabled this small feature on the wikipedia.org portal page because it
essentially didn't work; due to a bug in the API that it uses. We
documented it here: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126409 and on the
Portal Improvements page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia.org_Portal_Improvements#Minor_updates_to_the_Portal_page
.

Cheers,

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 2:41 PM, MF-Warburg 
wrote:

> What happened to the search box "Find Wikipedia in your language"?
>
> 2016-03-11 3:27 GMT+01:00 Deborah Tankersley :
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
> >  portal page with a brand new search box that is
> > more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available)
> in
> > the search results (see attached image).
> >
> > This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> > JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript
> enabled
> > browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> > ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> > Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when
> choosing
> > a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> > browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will
> not
> > be displayed.)
> >
> > We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> > Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search
> box.
> > When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
> > displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
> > search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot of
> > one of the ways we test our code, visually.
> >
> > We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
> >
> > On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
> >
> > Deb
> >
> > --
> > Deb Tankersley
> > Product Manager, Discovery
> > Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

2016-03-15 Thread MF-Warburg
What happened to the search box "Find Wikipedia in your language"?

2016-03-11 3:27 GMT+01:00 Deborah Tankersley :

> Hello!
>
> I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
>  portal page with a brand new search box that is
> more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available) in
> the search results (see attached image).
>
> This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript enabled
> browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when choosing
> a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will not
> be displayed.)
>
> We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search box.
> When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
> displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
> search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot of
> one of the ways we test our code, visually.
>
> We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
>
> On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
>
> Deb
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Maps-l] Wiki maps news and updates

2016-03-15 Thread Richard Symonds
Indeed.  Can't wait for a full rollout!
On 15 Mar 2016 18:57, "Cornelius Kibelka" 
wrote:

> Wow, this looks amazing! I'm looking forward to use it other Wikis,
> especially Wikipedia and Meta.
>
> Thank you for your great work!
>
> On 15 March 2016 at 12:27, Magnus Manske 
> wrote:
>
> > Great work!
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:13 AM Yuri Astrakhan <
> yastrak...@wikimedia.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The quest to bring maps to Wikipedia continues:
> > > * Kartographer has launched for WikiVoyage
> > > * Julien Girault will help maps with his UI expertise
> > > * Talk to us at the FreeNode IRC channel #wikipedia-interactive
> > >
> > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Kartographer
> > >
> > > Last week we enabled Kartographer extension for Wikivoyage sites,
> > allowing
> > > users to add maps to wiki pages without any additional wmflabs and
> > > JavaScript tricks.  Now you can simply add a  or 
> to a
> > > wiki page, or even use the Visual Editor to insert a map. Additionally,
> > you
> > > can:
> > >
> > > * add markers and polygons visually
> > > * edit geojson and see how it changes the map on each keystroke
> > > * add auto-numbered markers (either numbers or letters), and have
> > multiple
> > > counters
> > > * have multiple "groups" of markers/polygons and showing them on the
> same
> > > map or on separate maps (e.g. all food and all drink maps and one
> > combined
> > > map)
> > > * markers can be of any color, 3 sizes, and contain many different
> icons
> > > * markers and polygons can be clicked and will show popups with wiki
> text
> > > and images
> > > * very fast full screen popup map
> > >
> > > Feedback: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Maps
> > > Bugs & TODOs: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/kartographer/
> > > All maps-related tasks: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/maps/
> > >
> > > == What's next? ==
> > > There will be plenty of cleanup and polishing work to make Kartographer
> > > work seamlessly. We will need to address the missing functionality
> > reported
> > > to us by the community, and help migrate existing wmflabs-based maps to
> > the
> > > new platform. Lastly, VE editing will need some more work to become
> > > indispensable.
> > >
> > > Yet, our site is still set on the bigger target - maps for all of
> > > Wikipedia. For that we are waiting for more hardware, plus we will need
> > to
> > > improve our static maps service to be able to handle wiki-load.
> > >
> > > Hardware task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125126
> > >
> > >
> > > Thank you Max Semenik, Ed Sanders, Alex Kosiaris, Brandon Black, Chris
> > > Koerner, Chris Steipp, Tomasz Finc, and Wes Moran for making this
> > possible.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Maps-l] Wiki maps news and updates

2016-03-15 Thread Cornelius Kibelka
Wow, this looks amazing! I'm looking forward to use it other Wikis,
especially Wikipedia and Meta.

Thank you for your great work!

On 15 March 2016 at 12:27, Magnus Manske 
wrote:

> Great work!
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:13 AM Yuri Astrakhan 
> wrote:
>
> > The quest to bring maps to Wikipedia continues:
> > * Kartographer has launched for WikiVoyage
> > * Julien Girault will help maps with his UI expertise
> > * Talk to us at the FreeNode IRC channel #wikipedia-interactive
> >
> > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Kartographer
> >
> > Last week we enabled Kartographer extension for Wikivoyage sites,
> allowing
> > users to add maps to wiki pages without any additional wmflabs and
> > JavaScript tricks.  Now you can simply add a  or  to a
> > wiki page, or even use the Visual Editor to insert a map. Additionally,
> you
> > can:
> >
> > * add markers and polygons visually
> > * edit geojson and see how it changes the map on each keystroke
> > * add auto-numbered markers (either numbers or letters), and have
> multiple
> > counters
> > * have multiple "groups" of markers/polygons and showing them on the same
> > map or on separate maps (e.g. all food and all drink maps and one
> combined
> > map)
> > * markers can be of any color, 3 sizes, and contain many different icons
> > * markers and polygons can be clicked and will show popups with wiki text
> > and images
> > * very fast full screen popup map
> >
> > Feedback: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Maps
> > Bugs & TODOs: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/kartographer/
> > All maps-related tasks: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/maps/
> >
> > == What's next? ==
> > There will be plenty of cleanup and polishing work to make Kartographer
> > work seamlessly. We will need to address the missing functionality
> reported
> > to us by the community, and help migrate existing wmflabs-based maps to
> the
> > new platform. Lastly, VE editing will need some more work to become
> > indispensable.
> >
> > Yet, our site is still set on the bigger target - maps for all of
> > Wikipedia. For that we are waiting for more hardware, plus we will need
> to
> > improve our static maps service to be able to handle wiki-load.
> >
> > Hardware task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125126
> >
> >
> > Thank you Max Semenik, Ed Sanders, Alex Kosiaris, Brandon Black, Chris
> > Koerner, Chris Steipp, Tomasz Finc, and Wes Moran for making this
> possible.
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[Wikimedia-l] Research showcase: Evolution of privacy loss in Wikipedia

2016-03-15 Thread Dario Taraborelli
This month, our research showcase
 hosts
Andrei Rizoiu (Australian National University) to talk about his work
 on *how private traits of
Wikipedia editors can be exposed from public data* (such as edit histories)
using off-the-shelf machine learning techniques. (abstract below)

If you're interested in learning what the combination of machine learning
and public data mean for privacy and surveillance, come and join us
this *Wednesday
March 16* at *1pm Pacific Time*.

The event will be recorded and publicly streamed
. As usual, we will be hosting
the conversation with the speaker and Q on the #wikimedia-research
channel on IRC.

Looking forward to seeing you there,

Dario


Evolution of Privacy Loss in WikipediaThe cumulative effect of collective
online participation has an important and adverse impact on individual
privacy. As an online system evolves over time, new digital traces of
individual behavior may uncover previously hidden statistical links between
an individual’s past actions and her private traits. To quantify this
effect, we analyze the evolution of individual privacy loss by studying the
edit history of Wikipedia over 13 years, including more than 117,523
different users performing 188,805,088 edits. We trace each Wikipedia’s
contributor using apparently harmless features, such as the number of edits
performed on predefined broad categories in a given time period (e.g.
Mathematics, Culture or Nature). We show that even at this unspecific level
of behavior description, it is possible to use off-the-shelf machine
learning algorithms to uncover usually undisclosed personal traits, such as
gender, religion or education. We provide empirical evidence that the
prediction accuracy for almost all private traits consistently improves
over time. Surprisingly, the prediction performance for users who stopped
editing after a given time still improves. The activities performed by new
users seem to have contributed more to this effect than additional
activities from existing (but still active) users. Insights from this work
should help users, system designers, and policy makers understand and make
long-term design choices in online content creation systems.


*Dario Taraborelli  *Head of Research, Wikimedia Foundation
wikimediafoundation.org • nitens.org • @readermeter

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Cross-wiki notifications beta feature now available on all wikis

2016-03-15 Thread Florence Devouard

I concur

Very useful feature. Thanks a lot !

Flo

Le 13/03/16 22:16, Anna Stillwell a écrit :

I enabled it last week and found two new messages. Thank you. Very useful.
/a

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 6:31 AM, David Cuenca Tudela 
wrote:


Finally it is here! Now I don't miss conversations that are happening
elsewhere.
I know that many don't like it, but combined with Flow it works like a
charm :)

Thanks
Micru

On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Biplab Anand 
wrote:


This is amazing.
Thanks.
On 13 Mar 2016 03:20, "Andy Mabbett"  wrote:


Cross-wiki notifications


This is great, thank you.

Two requests:

Please could we have two icons, one for local notifications, another

for

those from elsewhere?

And could we have some way to avoid mass notifications when we are
mentioned in a newsletter like The Signpost, This Week in GLAM, or the
Wikidata Weekly Summary, which are posted to many talk pages?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia.org portal page update!

2016-03-15 Thread Michael Jahn
I've played around a bit. Feels very cool!
Michael

2016-03-11 3:27 GMT+01:00 Deborah Tankersley :

> Hello!
>
> I'm very pleased to announce that we've updated the Wikipedia.org
>  portal page with a brand new search box that is
> more prominent and will now display meta data with images (as available) in
> the search results (see attached image).
>
> This was a large effort by the Discovery Portal team to develop a
> JavaScript-only version of the language picker, so that JavaScript enabled
> browsers will see all the new meta data. Alongside that effort, we also
> ensured that in JavaScript (JS) disabled browsers (or older Internet
> Explorer versions), our visitors won't have a bad experience when choosing
> a language to search in. (Note: in older IE versions and JS disabled
> browsers, the type-ahead and meta data search results information will not
> be displayed.)
>
> We also implemented a shorter language code (ie: EN for English, ES for
> Spanish, etc) to allow for more characters to be typed into the search box.
> When a user toggles the language selector, the full language name will be
> displayed in the dropdown for easy finding of the language you prefer to
> search in. For the more technical minded - I've attached a screenshot of
> one of the ways we test our code, visually.
>
> We're interested in hearing your feedback or if you have any questions!
>
> On behalf of the very happy Wikipedia.org Portal Team,
>
> Deb
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Disabe Media Viewer for non-logged-in users and logged-in users on Wikimedia Commons

2016-03-15 Thread rupert THURNER
On Mar 14, 2016 23:47, "Fæ"  wrote:
>
> On 14 March 2016 at 22:12, Marc A. Pelletier  wrote:
> > On 16-03-14 05:01 PM, Vi to wrote:
> >> Ignoring a wide community
> >> consensus is *always* a mistake.
> >
> > It is.  I never advocated otherwise.
> >
> > That old RfC, however, does not show a wide community consensus, let
> > alone a consensus of the actually impacted community.
> >
> > -- Coren / Marc
>
> You could walk in the shoes of others, as Jimbo advocates, and you
> could create an RFC to show whether users prefer it, rather than
> putting the burden of proof onto a community that has already
> established what it wanted.

Marc just look at the German Wikipedia which recently voted for the switch
on of visual editor. It was community driven and caused no stir.

I really fail to understand that you guys always go down a confrontational
path instead of inventing a solution so all users have the option to
choose. Maybe a media tab or similar.

Rupert

Rupert
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