Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FDC_2013-2014_Round_1 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_checklist/2013-2014_round1 [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index [6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [7]
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Itzik, As far as I understand, the activity report is a requirement in the chapters agreement, which the WMF is finally starting to take somewhat seriously. (§8 [1]) But otherwise I agree that the FDC process requires quite a bit of time spent on it throughout the year. Best regards, Bence [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundationoldid=86480 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi Garfield, Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? To everyone else on the list: I wasn't sure if any progress had been made towards re-purposing the internal wiki, so started a discussion on Meta, please add your thoughts there: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_wikis#Are_we_re-purposing_Internal.3F . Thehelpfulone On 16 July 2013 14:12, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Hi, Garfield correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember that WMF said that even an automated translation of the annual report was fine, same was for the financial report. Is that still the case or do you need human translation? As, as far as I know, most entities are already doing an annual activity and financial report, automated translation wouldn't burden entities much. Best, -- Christophe On 16 July 2013 15:21, Bence Damokos bdamo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Itzik, As far as I understand, the activity report is a requirement in the chapters agreement, which the WMF is finally starting to take somewhat seriously. (§8 [1]) But otherwise I agree that the FDC process requires quite a bit of time spent on it throughout the year. Best regards, Bence [1] http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedia_Foundationoldid=86480 On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal.
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Itzik Edri it...@infra.co.il wrote: Hi Garfield, I must say I'm surprised from the new requirements. Eligible entities of last year now need to send by 15 September documents about 2012 - a year that is totally unrelated to the FDC process that started only this year? Why it been decided only now? We are not hiding a thing, but not only by 30th July we need to send FDC Q2 report, by 1st October annual plan budget for 2014, and by 31 October FDC Q3 report.. Hey, not everyone are big chapters, and we are really need time also to *work* and execute the program we asked the money for... So financial report can be translated from the financial report we sent to the Israeli authority (again, more money spends on translation as probably our employees don't have time for that and have other paper work, and this is also going to work if there is no special format and different numbers and metrics requsted by the FDC and not different from what we already have on the report we made..). But about the 2012 activity report? What format? what information need to be there? this is totally something we need to collect from start and mean more administrative work. Itzik Hi Itzik, Some administrative burden (reporting, accounting for use of funds, etc.) is part of almost any grant or external funding. On the surface, this doesn't seem unreasonable. It does seem like it can be difficult for entities who have not received recent or substantial funding to meet the requirements when they don't have the money to pay for administrative help. Perhaps chapters in that situation should ask for small grants for that purpose in the run up to FDC qualification, and then build future admin costs into the FDC proposal? ~Nathan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Russian Wikipedia in trouble /yet/ again
Hi, I posted a report in the Spanish daily ElDiario.es about this theme. http://www.eldiario.es/turing/Wikipedia-SOPA-Duma_0_152934722.html Best regards. 2013/7/10 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com On 10 July 2013 21:20, Yaroslav M. Blanter pute...@mccme.ru wrote: I do not see any reaction whatsoever from Wikimedia.ru , but from our WLM experience you probably remember that they are ... hmm ... not the fastest to react, and usually only do it after other people start complaining that they do not. WMRU are aware - I asked about this on the comcom list and they noted it was actually a serious issue - but I would expect they don't do anything until they're quite sure the community is moving in that direction, for probably-sensible reasons. - d. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- *Atentamente: Iván Martínez Presidente Wikimedia México A.C. wikimedia.mx Imagina un mundo en donde cada persona del planeta pueda tener acceso libre a la suma total del conocimiento humano. Eso es lo que estamos haciendo http://es.wikipedia.org. * ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown mbr...@wikimedia.org Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation Absolutely, more consistency is important. I think everyone has to have the same tattoo as Juliana to be allowed to work for WMF. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WIKIPEDIA-Tattoo.JPG Happy inking, Steffen -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stepro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone thehelpfulonew...@gmail.com wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ If by both lists you are referring to Internal-l and Wikimedia-l, this doesn't appear to be the case, as I don't have a record of an e-mail from Garfield on July 15th or 16th to Wikimedia-l. ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
On 16 July 2013 16:48, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Klein, 16/07/2013 17:32: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Thehelpfulone wrote: Please could you explain why was this message only sent to Internal-l, given the discussions on this list in April about shutting down Internal-l? Hello THO, if you check the original message again - I believe it was sent to both lists.SJ Impossible, I think. Internal-l is not listed on https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfohttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo, and mailman rejects messages sent to a mixed audience of secret and public lists. (Maybe Filip/the admins can be allowed to make it listed?) Nemo is correct: when you said that I thought it was just my inbox so I double checked the list archives, looking at this month'shttp://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2013-July/thread.html thread view I don't think it was sent to both lists. We have a privacy setting on some lists so if you send an email to a private mailing list and a public one then Mailman will not allow the email to go through as a layer of extra protection. Internal-l is set as one of those private lists. -- Thehelpfulone https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Thehelpfulone ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Dear members of the Wikimedia community: On July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTC that same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FDC_2013-2014_Round_1 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_checklist/2013-2014_round1 [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index [6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [7] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org* -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Chris Keating chriskeatingw...@gmail.comwrote: (Rumor has it that HR is soon going to introduce a new caring and loving penguin into the habitat. Perhaps the HR penguin can mediate should matters escalate quickly.) Erik - to be frank I think this would be a serious mistake. A penguin would have no understanding of the Wikimedia culture. I mean they spend all their time huddling on ice-floes! What's that got to do with creating an encyclopedia? I notice that hardly ANYONE edits Wikipedia from the South Pole, despite it being the only place that everyone can agree is in the Global South. Indeed, what's the whole contribution of Antarctica been to the Wikimedia movement? Sweet fanny adams, that's what. But it doesn't even warrant a mention in the Foundation strategic plan! There is literally a whole continent that we don't care about. I suppose because you don't get many icebergs in San Francisco somehow you think Antarctica does't matter. The penguins should be much more comfortable on Wikisource. -- ~Keegan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTCthat same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:FDC_2013-2014_Round_1 [4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_checklist/2013-2014_round1 [5] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index [6] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal [7] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours#Upcoming_office_hours -- Garfield Byrd Chief of Finance and Administration Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext 6787 415.882.0495 (fax) www.wikimediafoundation.org Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! *https://donate.wikimedia.org* ___ Internal-l mailing list interna...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/internal-l ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
Lodewijk, 16/07/2013 21:33: 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? It seems more likely they'll expand the definition of core to cover all they do. Nemo Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Wikimania Hong Kong: invitation to the WCA WOS (seminar for organizations)
Dear friends, In Hong Kong, the Wikimedia Chapters Association (WCA) offers a seminar for Wikimedia Organizations. Chapters, thematic organisations, user groups - everybody who is interested in the organisations is welcome! On Wednesday, August 7th, the seminar will be asking for *input*. We try to gather different perspectives from different people, coming from different kind of Wikimedia organisations, continentes, with different roles, backgrounds etc. Topics are, i.a., chapter ways and the role of money. On Thursday, August 8th, we expect some more *action*. Join the WCA action groups discuss about our three action fields: Advice (peer review), Research, Outreach. Please have a look at our seminar page on the Wikimania wiki, and join by adding your name to the list. Kind regards Markus Glaser, WCA Council Chair Dr. Ziko van Dijk, Deputy Chair http://wikimania2013.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Chapters_Association_-_Organisations_Seminar Ziko van Dijk voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland deputy chair Wikimedia Chapters Association Council Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland Postbus 167 3500 AD Utrecht http://wikimedia.nl ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Internal-l] 2013-2014 Round 1 FDC eligibility status IRC office hours
FDC have on ongoing dialog and discussion with WMF and the Board on how to handle WMF, as we in FDC want WMF to be handled a all other entities as far as is reasonable, recognizing some unique differences between WMF and other entities. In this discussion that is still ongoing, we have agreed *WMF shall be handled in Round 2, so they are treated before their budget year begins as for all other entities also *FDC have stated it want to have a proposal from WMF covering both the total and also some pinpointed programs in their budget with with money numbers for its budget for these pinpointed programs. How to pick these and if it also should be the total is still open. As it is only early next year this has to be resolved we will now wait until we have handled Round 1 before we continue this issue We miss out this year but think it is more vital to get it right for 2014-2015 Anders secretary of FDC Lodewijk skrev 2013-07-16 21:33: resending, was bounced. 2013/7/16 Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org Maybe this has been asked elsewhere already, apologies in that case, but could someone clarify why the Wikimedia Foundation is not eligible any more (and did not seem to send a letter of intent) for the FDC process? Does this mean WMF will only do core programs and shut down all other? Or is there another explanation I did not think of yet (this is of course, assuming the WMF is still intending to eat it's own dog food)? Best, Lodewijk 2013/7/16 Garfield Byrd gb...@wikimedia.org Dear members of the Wikimedia community: Today, July 15, the Wikimedia Foundation published a list of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) eligible entities [1] based the eligibility criteria [2] established in the FDC framework. Entities that submitted Letters of Intent [3] are categorized in 'Yes', 'Yes, If', and 'No' categories based the eligibility criteria. Please let us know if you believe there are any corrections to be made to this list. A more detailed eligibility checklist document has also been created. [4] This document outlines eligibility gaps that need to be closed by September 15, 2013. Any entity in the Yes, If category must post all missing documents on Meta by September 15 to be eligible for FDC funding. Entities in the “No” column who are currently ineligible for FDC funding or those who decide not to proceed with an FDC application are welcome to consider applying to the WMF Grants program. [5] On September 15, WMF will post the final list of the entities eligible to apply for FDC funding if they are eligible. Please note that entities will need to remain in compliance with all Chapter Agreements and Grant Agreements until funds are sent in order to receive a grant through the FDC process, even if eligibility is confirmed as Yes on 15 September. The detailed eligibility checklist has improved since the last round. You’ll now note that the final column now outlines upcoming requirements (e.g. per chapter or grant agreements or current grant requirements) to maintain FDC eligibility status. These are noted as “potential gaps,” and as those deadlines come up, entities will need to fill those gaps (for example, by posting their documents and linking to them from the Reports page on Meta) in order to maintain their eligibility status with the FDC. We hope this change allows entities, the FDC, and the FDC staff to track eligibility better and ensure that everyone is informed of potential as well as current issues that may affect eligibility. All entities that apply for FDC funding will be required to maintain eligibility throughout the duration of the proposal review process until funds are sent (or until the decision on whether to send funds is made). We encourage you to get in touch with us if you have any questions about your entity's gaps or potential gaps. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Index As a reminder, all applications for FDC funding from eligible entities must be submitted by October 1, 2013 via the FDC portal. [6] The FDC proposal form will be posted by August 15, 2013 on the FDC portal. Please contact us if you have any questions about submitting your proposal. WMF staff will reach out to all the of the entities that submitted Letters of Intent individually to discuss their eligibility. In addition, the FDC support staff has scheduled two IRC office hours to provide more explanation about the eligibility status. [7] We look forward to meeting with you on Thursday, July 18 at 0:00 UTC or at 16:00 UTCthat same day. Please feel free to submit any questions in advance. Do let me know if you have any questions, clarifications or concerns about the eligibility process, or if you need clarifications. We are here to support you. Sincerely, Garfield Byrd [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_status/2013-2014_round1 [2] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FDC_portal/Eligibility_criteria [3]
[Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process
I've seen that there is a new Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic. With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption. Micru [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WeRelate [2] http://www.werelate.org -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Staff Images
Did she get permission to use the trademark in that way by WMF legal? :-) On 17/07/2013 1:41 AM, Steffen Prößdorf steffen.proessd...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi there, 2013/7/15 Melanie Brown mbr...@wikimedia.org Hello Everyone, As for the insights on staff photos, thank you for your feedback. Yes, we are in the process of creating some more consistency in our staff photos for the Wikimedia Foundation Absolutely, more consistency is important. I think everyone has to have the same tattoo as Juliana to be allowed to work for WMF. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WIKIPEDIA-Tattoo.JPG Happy inking, Steffen -- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Stepro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process
David Cuenca, 16/07/2013 22:29: I've seen that there is a new Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic. With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption. If you're interested in this, you should join the efforts of the https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SPCom Garfield and Geoff also kindly shared some information on the costs for Wikivoyage adoption: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#Cost_of_Wikivoyage Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process
Thanks for pointing that out, I have seen that there is a proposed process https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_process#Adopting_an_existing_project_into_Wikimedia However it is not that clear what is the status of the SPCom... is it meant to become a user group? Micru On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.comwrote: David Cuenca, 16/07/2013 22:29: I've seen that there is a new Wiki Adoption Request [1] for WeRelate [2], a wonderful project that might help sourcing birth/death dates and hence copyright status. I was wondering if there should be a standard procedure for this kind of adoption requests. It is very easy to add a support for a project, but not that easy to evaluate the hidden costs (migration, legal deffense, etc), which might require some expertise on the topic. With all this information at hand, maybe it would be easier to take informed decissions and evaluate the kind of success that is expected from a given adoption. If you're interested in this, you should join the efforts of the https://meta.wikimedia.org/**wiki/SPComhttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SPCom Garfield and Geoff also kindly shared some information on the costs for Wikivoyage adoption: https://meta.wikimedia.org/** wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#**Cost_of_Wikivoyagehttps://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_budget#Cost_of_Wikivoyage Nemo -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone could make it look at least as good as Brandon's profile pic! It would be amazing Feel free to change anything you want. It can't get any worse! Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
winning!! I think I overheard the legal department say something about this being original and probably not infringing anyone else's marks :) On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:11 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone could make it look at least as good as Brandon's profile pic! It would be amazing Feel free to change anything you want. It can't get any worse! Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Matthew Roth Global Communications Manager Wikimedia Foundation +1.415.839.6885 ext 6635 www.wikimediafoundation.org *http://blog.wikimedia.org/* ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I love everything about this. On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:11 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone could make it look at least as good as Brandon's profile pic! It would be amazing Feel free to change anything you want. It can't get any worse! Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.orgwrote: I love everything about this. I do, too. I was just afraid to say it. -h On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:11 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! This morning I presented a submission (if you can call it that...) for a Wikivoyage logo... actually it flies and it's alive :) https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikivoyage/Logo_2013/Submissions#Option_19_-_Snake_on_a_magic_towel It promised not to eat Rory nor Tux... yet :) If only someone could make it look at least as good as Brandon's profile pic! It would be amazing Feel free to change anything you want. It can't get any worse! Micru ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Heather Walls + Communications Design Manager + Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I've had enough with these snakes on my magic towel... . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I knew it! Not even a day and the Wicked Towel Organization already complaining! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: I've had enough with these snakes on my magic towel... . ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe -- Etiamsi omnes, ego non ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
I just watched The Hitchhiker's Guide the Galaxy again this weekend and the towel reminded me of that. Really Hoopy Froods always know where the their towel is. Maybe the snake's name is Hoopy. On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:47 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I knew it! Not even a day and the Wicked Towel Organization already complaining! --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Snake on a magic towel... help needed transforming a shitty logo into something wonderful
This snake is awesome! It can lay eggs of travel knowledge like Yoshi does for Mario and it could strangulate and swallow foul editors alive. On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: I just watched The Hitchhiker's Guide the Galaxy again this weekend and the towel reminded me of that. Really Hoopy Froods always know where the their towel is. Maybe the snake's name is Hoopy. On Jul 16, 2013, at 5:47 PM, David Cuenca dacu...@gmail.com wrote: I knew it! Not even a day and the Wicked Towel Organization already complaining! --- Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
[Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
Hi, it came to my attention very recently that a link to a YouTube video has been included in our fundraising banners[1] last year, enabling people by default to watch a video about Wikipedia loaded through a YouTube iframe / element. There's been a small discussion about this on IRC, and I've been asked to seek the opinion of the wider community on this matter, which I hope to achieve by starting a thread on this list. I wonder how the solution used in the banners reflects on our values, especially since we prefer to use a proprietary service over our own Wikimedia Commons, and effectively invite our users to expose their data (such as their IP address) to an external website (because no one's going to read the small information about YouTube privacy policy). I am told that there are technical limitations behind the decision to prefer YouTube over Commons, but I'm not really convinced about that; I generally think that we should not include links to websites that can track our users in our banners, and YouTube (as well as websites that use Google Analytics for statistical purposes) definitely falls under that definition. [On an unrelated note, it might be worth pointing out that the video on YouTube is listed as CC-BY and as CC-BY-SA on Commons, which introduces confusion and might lead to creation of derivative works that are released without the ShareAlike clause, which - I believe - it's not what the author of the video was after.] == References == * [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?banner=B12_1227_ThankYou_5pillarsforceBannerDisplay=true Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
From what I understand the technical limitations are actually real; mostly they operate around throwing the number of donors (or potential donors) we get at the video. (Having said that, I'm neither opsen nor fundraising, and will promptly cram it. But: to the best of my knowledge there is a lot of reasoned thinking behind the decision) On 17 July 2013 03:44, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: Hi, it came to my attention very recently that a link to a YouTube video has been included in our fundraising banners[1] last year, enabling people by default to watch a video about Wikipedia loaded through a YouTube iframe / element. There's been a small discussion about this on IRC, and I've been asked to seek the opinion of the wider community on this matter, which I hope to achieve by starting a thread on this list. I wonder how the solution used in the banners reflects on our values, especially since we prefer to use a proprietary service over our own Wikimedia Commons, and effectively invite our users to expose their data (such as their IP address) to an external website (because no one's going to read the small information about YouTube privacy policy). I am told that there are technical limitations behind the decision to prefer YouTube over Commons, but I'm not really convinced about that; I generally think that we should not include links to websites that can track our users in our banners, and YouTube (as well as websites that use Google Analytics for statistical purposes) definitely falls under that definition. [On an unrelated note, it might be worth pointing out that the video on YouTube is listed as CC-BY and as CC-BY-SA on Commons, which introduces confusion and might lead to creation of derivative works that are released without the ShareAlike clause, which - I believe - it's not what the author of the video was after.] == References == * [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Main_Page?banner=B12_1227_** ThankYou_5pillars**forceBannerDisplay=truehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?banner=B12_1227_ThankYou_5pillarsforceBannerDisplay=true Tomasz __**_ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.**org Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-lhttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@**lists.wikimedia.orgwikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org ?subject=**unsubscribe -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Tomasz W. Kozlowski tom...@twkozlowski.net wrote: (such as their IP address) to an external website (because no one's going to read the small information about YouTube privacy policy). Except for the good people of tosdr.org: http://tosdr.org/#youtube http://tosdr.org/blog/suzanne-youtube.html I am told that there are technical limitations behind the decision to prefer YouTube over Commons, but I'm not really convinced about that; I generally think that we should not include links to websites that can track our users in our banners, and YouTube (as well as websites that use Google Analytics for statistical purposes) definitely falls under that definition. +1 Youtube does not need free advertising on Wikipedia. Also, why the Wikimedia shop uses Shopify.com instead of the many FOSS alternatives? http://shop.wikimedia.org/ -- Fajro ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
Also, why the Wikimedia shop uses Shopify.com instead of the many FOSS alternatives? http://shop.wikimedia.org/ I have transitioned away from the shop (it's now moving to the fundraising team) so the future of that is in their hands but I can say that the biggest thing was that the FOSS alternatives required more resources then we were able to give at the time and the decision was made that getting it up and running made a lot more sense then not doing anything for now. There are a couple very powerful FOSS options for stores that I would love to see us move to eventually (and would offer us more then we are getting now to be honest) but they will require some investments of time/money/staff resources that we need to decide are worth it and that question is not easy. James James Alexander Legal and Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation (415) 839-6885 x6716 @jamesofur ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] About the wiki-adoption process
David Cuenca, 17/07/2013 00:36: Thanks for pointing that out, I have seen that there is a proposed process https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/New_project_process#Adopting_an_existing_project_into_Wikimedia However it is not that clear what is the status of the SPCom... is it meant to become a user group? Not sure what you mean by user group, it's meant to be a WMF committee. Nemo ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
On 17 July 2013 04:12, Fajro fai...@gmail.com wrote: Youtube does not need free advertising on Wikipedia. To be frank,[1] youtube has twice our annual unique visitors every /month/. I would agree: they don't need advertising. [1] my apologies to Frank - I'll be Oliver from hereonin -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
Hi Tomasz everyone else, I think it's appropriate I respond to this issue, since it was the video that I directed that was used in the campaign last year that you talk about. So last year at Wikimania in Washington D.C. (July 2012) my team conducted a series of interviews with around 100 Wikipedians which resulted in a series of videos being produced: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Impact_Of_Wikipedia.webm http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Impact_of_Wikipedia http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You_All Once I took a breath after all the video production was done at Wikimania, I started to evaluate what our options were for where this video could go. On the fundraising team we had used banners to host still images (.jpgs) in the past. We wanted to make a video we could put into banners but in July 2012 there was no open source HTML5 video player built into mediawiki. .Webm was not deployed on commons and I was told that Wikimedia did not have the technical capabilities to host video on that scale. Nevertheless I insisted and wanted to use open source video. I thought it was crazy that every other site on the internet could do this and we couldn't. Basically I asked everyone I could find at WMF who had anything to do with open source video (a little bit abruptly) 'Pretty please with sugar on top can we make open-source video work for Wikimedia?' Rob Lanphier told me that (the technical elements of this were over my head) we were painfully close to having .webm done, and it was going to be a bunch of details for his team to fix. I got in touch with Michael Dale and told him that if Kaltura could make .webm a reality, the fundraiser would be his first 'customer' - when I say that all I meant was that the fundraiser would be the first to use the video format on a mass scale. In November 2012, the new player was deployed: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2012/11/08/introducing-wikipedias-new-html5-video-player/ My thanks to everyone who made it happen - we actually had a player that would work on many (but not all) devices and it had the added benefit of open source closed captions, which I had never seen anywhere else. It was awesome, but the reality of it was that WMF just didn't have enough servers or bandwidth to support video on that scale - even if it was open source. Everyone in the engineering department who I spoke to agreed that it was impossible. I had to speak to the legal department about embedding a video from a third party (if that was even possible). I was told that if we were to have a link from a third party, on each and every video we would have to provide this disclaimer: This video is hosted by YouTube.com subject to its Terms of Usehttp://www.youtube.com/t/terms and Privacy Policy http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/privacy/. If you prefer,view on Wikimedia Commonshttp://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Thank_You/Dumisani_Ndubane . I disliked this workaround because it was inelegant and counter to the open source philosophy of Wikimedia, *but it would function*. It would play the video on a large scale to millions of potential viewers and if users didn't want to use Youtube.com a link to the video on Commons would be under each and every video. When the banner went live in late December https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page?banner=B12_1227_ThankYou_5pillarsforceBannerDisplay=true , it was great that it worked. I thought maybe this might spark conversations about open source video within the Wikimedia community and (to be really honest Tomasz) I was expecting to see this thread start the moment that the banners went live, because I think it is something that the community should concern itself with. Video production is something that every smartphone owner now has in their pocket. Think about where that will be in ten years. Even if it's a site that could mine data, I disagree that just providing links is a bad thing. How many links at the bottom of Wikipedia articles provide links to all kinds of sites that mine data? Those pages don't link to the policies of those sites, they just show an external link. To be fair, Yes it's a prominent, big button that we linked to Youtube.com and the disclaimer link to commons is small text. I'm a visual person and I like to avoid text if I have a big flashy button to click instead. In my view, this whole argument would provide reason to: 1.) Only use a third party video option sparingly, as-needed until there are better open-source video options to use. 2.) Put more resources into open source video. As for the licensing options on YouTube -- There are only 2 licensing options that YouTube provides and nevertheless people have used that video in creative ways: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEbfGP43bjI I'm also aware that the German chapter produced a very nice video last year as well that links from Vimeo.com that displays on their homepage: http://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Hauptseite
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:09 PM, Victor Grigas vgri...@wikimedia.orgwrote: My thanks to everyone who made it happen - we actually had a player that would work on many (but not all) devices and it had the added benefit of open source closed captions, which I had never seen anywhere else. It was awesome, but the reality of it was that WMF just didn't have enough servers or bandwidth to support video on that scale - even if it was open source. Everyone in the engineering department who I spoke to agreed that it was impossible. I had to speak to the legal department about embedding a video from a third party (if that was even possible). I was told that if we were to have a link from a third party, on each and every video we would have to provide this disclaimer: The other bit that Victor didn't mention (and I was in the room for these meetings too) is that the links that were used were Youtube's privacy enhanced mode links. They don't actually store any user data unless the user plays the video (and ours weren't set to play by default) - you had to choose to play them, presumably after you read the disclaimer that Victor mentions. There was certainly informed consent there - I may be misremembering, but I believe all the videos were also hosted on commons as well, so that one could search and watch them there instead. Victor could confirm that, though. pb *Philippe Beaudette * \\ Director, Community Advocacy \\ Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. T : 1-415-839-6885 x6643 | phili...@wikimedia.org | : @Philippewikihttps://twitter.com/Philippewiki ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Re: [Wikimedia-l] Use of YouTube videos in fundraising banners
Hi Victor, thanks for your e-mail, I does indeed provide a lot of valuable background information! I'm being told that the technical limitations I mentioned in my opening e-mail are somehow related to Squid and Varnish (the caching software we use) and our infrastructure being unable to serve videos at this scale. However, as you correctly write, that banner only served those millions of our viewers a cached image that was uploaded to donate.wm.org (so it was cached the usual way) and /only/ if they had clicked the play button were they served the full video. I'm no specialist when it comes to server loads, but if YouTube does not lie to me, that particular video was viewed only 78,000 times, which does not seem that much. The solution that was used was indeed inelegant and contrary to our free culture (not the open source crap) values; effectively, people were directed to use a proprietary service which (1) infringes their privacy, (2) does not even allow to correctly licence the video. (I wonder if the author of the remix is aware that their work should be released under CC-BY-SA.) I can't speak about others, but I block fundraising banners by default and did not see that until Steven W. mentioned it to me at the 2013/14 WMF budget discussion page on Meta. Providing links to websites that hurt our readers' and users' privacy directly from banners which are visible to tens of millions of them /is an evil thing/ and cannot be compared to including links inside Wikipedia articles; the scales just don't match. This includes linking to websites that use Google Analytics to track their visits as well as websites such as YouTube which use different techniques to achieve this goal (and perhaps some others as well). Giving users a very visible 'play' button and adding a short sentence about privacy is not that far from that; nobody's going to read it, and even if they do, they might not be exactly aware of what those long documents written in complicated legalese mean. I believe that in addition to the two options you mentioned, there is also a third way: not to include any videos unless we are capable of using our own resources, ie. serving people content governed by our own privacy policy and served by our own machines. (I see that Philippe sent another e-mail in the meantime; let me just mention that /not/ autoplaying videos on page load is no achievement; /playing/ them, on the other hand, is a good reason for painful death and reincarnation as a demon. Also, uploading videos to Commons without actually using them and preferring a proprietary service is in no way better.) Tomasz ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
