Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Dominic McDevitt-Parks
On 20 February 2014 00:56, HaeB haebw...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, but I think these concerns are overblown. I do not intend to fill everyone's inbox with a back-and-forth, but I do want to clarify some of my points. First, IANAL, but an academic ... who makes their first tentative edit or

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Lodewijk
Maybe I missed something, but could you please explain why the Terms of Use would be the best place to make this kind of decisions? As I understand it, the Terms of Use are Wikimedia-wide, and I'm not 100% certain this is the kind of rule we'd want to apply on all projects the same way. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread HaeB
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Dominic McDevitt-Parks mcdev...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 February 2014 00:56, HaeB haebw...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, but I think these concerns are overblown. I do not intend to fill everyone's inbox with a back-and-forth, but I do want to clarify some of my

[Wikimedia-l] Accounts on the Wikimedia UK wiki

2014-02-20 Thread Katie Chan
Dear all, As you may be aware, Wikimedia UK wikihttps://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Main_Pagewas migrated from WMF servers https://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page to that of WMUK back in September. If you previously had an account on the old wiki, but have not requested password for your account on the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

2014-02-20 Thread Bence Damokos
Dear Community Members, The Affiliations Committee has put together a public response to the Board's decision to express the dissatisfaction with the process and outcome of the decision, and thereby the opportunity lost to actually discuss and address the Board's underlying concerns. This

[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Tomasz W. Kozlowski
The BBC reports that at least 22 people have died today in Kiev, Ukraine, as result of the violent clashes between the opposition and the government forces. I have briefly visited Maidan Nezalezhnosti in March 2012 on my way to a Wiki Loves Monuments workshop; the city of Kiev and the square

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
Some WMUA members stay on barricades. Other help in hospitals. IDK if right now but they do regularly. --Base 20.02.2014 15:25, Tomasz W. Kozlowski написав(ла): The BBC reports that at least 22 people have died today in Kiev, Ukraine, as result of the violent clashes between the opposition and

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Laura Hale
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Bohdan Melnychuk bas...@yandex.ru wrote: Some WMUA members stay on barricades. Other help in hospitals. IDK if right now but they do regularly. --Base I've blogged about this issue at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Dennis Pierri
In Venezuela we are going through the same situation! We students are being brutally repressed by government forces just for peacefully protesting, they've killed several students in cold blod, and they infiltrate our parades to generate destruction and chaos just to try and justify their

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Srikanth Ramakrishnan
Stay safe everyone! On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: In Venezuela we are going through the same situation! We students are being brutally repressed by government forces just for peacefully protesting, they've killed several students in cold blod,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Position of Wikimedia Spain about URAA

2014-02-20 Thread Patricio Lorente
Dear friends: There's a response from the Board of Trustees in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Israel/Letter_to_the_BoT_regarding_URAA#Response_from_Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees Regards, Patricio 2014-02-20 2:15 GMT-03:00 Yael

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Victor Grigas
My heart goes out to everyone involved in these situations. Please stay safe. On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan srik.r...@wikimedia.in wrote: Stay safe everyone! On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:22 PM, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com wrote: In Venezuela we are going

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Galileo Vidoni
Please refrain from using this list for political claims. The purpose of this thread was to know if our WMUA fellows are safe. Thanks, Galileo Vidoni Presidente A. C. Wikimedia Argentina El 20/02/2014 12:53, Dennis Pierri dennis6...@gmail.com escribió: In Venezuela we are going through the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
I visited Ukraine twice. The first time was when I was five years old, mostly in the country side and in some magical historic towns like Chernihiv, Nizhyn and Kozelets. I also spent one day in Kyiv, which left me very strong and fond memories of open blue skies, tasty ice cream, and lovely city

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread geni
On 20 February 2014 17:32, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: Please refrain from using this list for political claims. The purpose of this thread was to know if our WMUA fellows are safe. That is already a political question. Most of Ukraine or even Kiev is no more dangerous than usual.

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Bohdan Melnychuk
Unfortunately you are wrong. There is a risk to be attacked by so called titushky just somewhere near own house. My friend saw buses with gunned titusky in sleeping district of Kyiv on the other from the center side of the Dnipro river. Titusky are criminals and they would not ask you if you

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Nathan
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: Please refrain from using this list for political claims. The purpose of this thread was to know if our WMUA fellows are safe. Thanks, Galileo Vidoni Presidente A. C. Wikimedia Argentina Galileo, that is not the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread effe iets anders
it seems my email was rejected, trying to send again: Maybe I missed something, but could you please explain why the Terms of Use would be the best place to make this kind of decisions? As I understand it, the Terms of Use are Wikimedia-wide, and I'm not 100% certain this is the kind of rule

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi all, A few notes from my own perspective: 1) I'm glad to see this lively debate! I hope the right solution comes out of it and is iron-clad against contingencies, insofar as possible :) 2) I don't want to see the projects used and misused as a platform to achieve goals other than our mission

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Galileo Vidoni
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:32 PM, Galileo Vidoni gali...@gmail.com wrote: Please refrain from using this list for political claims. The purpose of this thread was to know if our WMUA fellows are safe. Thanks, Galileo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Anders Wennersten
phoebe ayers skrev 2014-02-20 20:16: 3) I think this proposal is trying to addressing a long-standing issue of COI editing. That issue was recently brought to the forefront again by the actions of a few companies, but it's been an issue for a long while. Please remember this is a description

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Nathan
Is there a way to incorporate the local policy by reference into the TOU, something like The Wikimedia Foundation requires that all users being paid to contribute follow the disclosure, conflict or related applicable policy on each project where said users contribute.? Might that be a solution to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Anders Wennersten m...@anderswennersten.se wrote: phoebe ayers skrev 2014-02-20 20:16: 3) I think this proposal is trying to addressing a long-standing issue of COI editing. That issue was recently brought to the forefront again by the actions of a few

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Position of Wikimedia Spain about URAA

2014-02-20 Thread Santi Navarro
Gracias Patricio Dear friends: There's a response from the Board of Trustees in https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Israel/Letter_to_the_BoT_regarding_URAA#Response_from_Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_of_Trustees Regards, Patricio

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread
Having led an all day workshop with different GLAM organizations in Cornwall, fresh in my mind are the stories of woe from respected museum professionals who have run into hot water on the English Wikipedia by creating official looking accounts to make edits for their institution and/or using

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Anders Wennersten
phoebe ayers skrev 2014-02-20 21:28: How do you seeing this as a restriction on contribution? As it is proposed it's not saying edits will be rejected, only that contributors who are paid to edit should note this on their userpage or in edit summaries. I think that every edit would still be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: My dear friends in Ukraine, you are cool people and excellent Wikimedians. Know that I care about you and wish you peace and freedom. Please be safe; I trust you to do the right thing. This. -- ~Keegan

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine -- is everyone safe?

2014-02-20 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: My dear friends in Ukraine, you are cool people and excellent Wikimedians. Know that I care about you and wish you peace

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 3:46 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.orgwrote: Maybe I missed something, but could you please explain why the Terms of Use would be the best place to make this kind of decisions? As I understand it, the Terms of Use are Wikimedia-wide, and I'm not 100% certain

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Proposed amendment to the Wikimedia Terms of Use

2014-02-20 Thread Luis Villa
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to incorporate the local policy by reference into the TOU, something like The Wikimedia Foundation requires that all users being paid to contribute follow the disclosure, conflict or related applicable policy on

[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 7 -- 19 February 2014

2014-02-20 Thread Wikipedia Signpost
News and notes: Foundation takes aim at undisclosed paid editing; Greek Wikipedia editor faces down legal challenge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-19/News_and_notes WikiProject report: Countering Systemic Bias