[Wikimedia-l] Re: Hiba Abu Nada, RIP

[attolippip]

very sad news, thank you, Andy, for sharing this. a loss of any innocent
life is sad, and loss of civilians to unjustified violence in any and all
wars is horrible... and losing a fellow Wikimedian is especially painful --
i wish to read a book by her some day, for now i can only commemorate her
in the wikiway by translating the article about her into Ukrainian:

https://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=5087934

(and then improving it, as more sources will appear)

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сб, 28 жовт. 2023 р. о 15:45 Andy Mabbett  пише:

> I just learned that a Wikimedian, Hiba Abu Nada, was one of the
> casualties in Gaza. She was 32, and died on 20 October, during an
> airstrike.
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiba_Abu_Nada
>
> May the region soon be at peace.
>
> --
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[Wikimedia-l] Re: Goodbye and see you around

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Oh, Biyanto, so sorry to read you are leaving Wikimedia Indonesia -- but I
am glad you are moving to your next adventure: wishing you all the best
with your studies. And I hope we shall be able to meet in the wikiverse
at some point!

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ср, 29 черв. 2022 р. о 13:30 Gnangarra  пише:

> Hi Biyanto
>
> Sad to see you leave WMID, but I hope that your studies go well and enjoy
> yourself in Sweden.  I also hope you keep involved with ESEAP as your
> insights have always been appreciated
>
> Good Luck
> Gnangarra
>
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 17:59, Biyanto Rebin 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Tomorrow is my last day working at Wikimedia Indonesia. Goodbye is a
>> thing that we should celebrate. I am very grateful to have a wonderful
>> chance to collaborate with my local community, local organisation, and
>> international community also various chapters and affiliates. I will
>> continue my volunteering activity while enjoying my next journey as a
>> master student in Digital Humanities in Uppsala University, Sweden.
>>
>> In the last 3 months, I have been doing collaboration work with Rachmat
>> Wahidi, our new Chair of the Board of Executive with his new teams. I am
>> sure WMID will achieve more in the future under his leadership with a more
>> diverse team, lots of local communities, strong grass root movement and
>> continuous support from the local community members, and our presence in
>> the ESEAP community makes us one of the biggest communities in the region.
>>
>> You can always contact me via my personal email (biyanto.i...@gmail.com).
>>
>> From one of the sunniest cities in the Southern Hemisphere, Jakarta.
>>
>> Best,
>> Biyanto
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Книжковий Арсенал 2022: потрібні волонтери

[attolippip]

Усім привіт!

25—29 травня пройде XI міжнародний фестиваль «Книжковий Арсенал» у Києві.
Плануємо мати стенд з презентацією ГО «Вікімедіа Україна» на фестивалі, і
потрібні волонтери, які будуть у ці дні (або один чи кілька днів) чергувати
на стенді.

Волонтери отримають футболки, у яких потрібно буде в ці дні там бути. А
також інші сувеніри із символікою проєктів Фонду Вікімедіа та «Вікімедіа
Україна». Серед можливих завдань, окрім чергувати на стенді та розказувати
й представляти проєкти, може бути також фотографування значущих людей для
Вікіпедії та відвідини заходів на фестивалі для фотографування (звісно,
чергуючись із іншими волонтерами). За потреби можна буде покрити витрати на
дорогу та проживання (або розмістити у когось із вікіпедистів у Києві).

Попередньо планували зосередитися на поширенні матеріалів та інформації про
«свободу панорами», фотоконкурси, освітню програму, і, звісно, про
залучення до проєктів Фонду Вікімедіа. Але конкретніше це почне
викрастилізовуватися вже ближче до заходу. Вітаються й ідеї з оформлення
стенду чи продумування активностей. До 17 лютого ще маємо вирішити чи
будемо й якісь заходи у програмі організовувати, тож якщо у Вас є якісь
думки й щодо цього, пишіть.

Якщо Ви могли б долучитися, заповніть, будь ласка, цю коротку форму, щоб
зібрати необхідну інформацію: посилання на форму для зголошення


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[Wikimedia-l] Re: News about some CTeam transitions in Wikimedia Foundation

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Hello, Ashwin, would this link work for you?
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org/message/N6GHEXM3KTPODS33VQAN7NZKMMPNFA4S/

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пн, 26 лип. 2021 о 13:49 Ashwin Baindur  пише:

> Hi Lodewijk,
>
> I could not locate the email you mentioned on the Wikimedia-l list. Has it
> been sent to some other list? This reply is a matter of interest to all
> here, since the query has been raised on this list.
>
> I would appreciate the url about this in case it's addressed to another
> list. Thanks in advance.
>
> Best wishes, Ashwin
>
>
>
> REPLY TO: News about CTeam transitions from Wikimedia Foundation
>
> On Mon, 26 Jul, 2021, 7:19 am effe iets anders, 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Philip,
>>
>> just to make sure, are you aware of the email under the topic "REPLY TO:
>> News about CTeam transitions from Wikimedia Foundation" ? I believe that
>> was sent within the day.
>>
>> Best,
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 2:18 PM Philip Kopetzky <
>> philip.kopet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I find it quite worrying that after a month no one has deemed it
>>> necessary to reply to the concerns voiced by a former chair of the WMF
>>> Board of Trustees. There isn't even a PR-level denial of there being a
>>> crisis.
>>>
>>> The C-Suite turnover would be a major challenge for any company or
>>> organisation. Just describing it as a "natural part of evolution" doesn't
>>> explain what direction this "evolution" is taking and why so many of the
>>> C-Suite don't deem this worth sticking around for. In the meantime, the
>>> "smooth operation" is leading to uncertainty and stagnation that is wasting
>>> valuable time and momentum for the implementation of the 2030 strategy.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 at 23:36, Christophe Henner <
>>> christophe.hen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Heather, you have been someone I have always loved to talk with.


 I have fond memories with you there, such as talking with you and Zack
 on Thanksgiving eve having beers in the Foundation office creating the
 Museums of Things People don't Want To Know. Or crafting my email in Esino
 Lario to announce my term as chair, everyone sitting on the floor in a room
 with you, Katherine, Greg, and Juliet. I have so many others.


 Wherever you will go next they will be as lucky as we have been to
 count you as part of our movement. Perhaps even more as you take your
 experiences with you.


 Most people in the movement might not know you, but you have made a big
 difference behind the scenes.


 You reshaped how we are positioning ourselves in the world and provided
 a speaker to our voices. I am sad to see you leave the Foundation, I only
 hope we will keep on seeing you around and that, life willing, we will have
 other drinks.


 Grant, I left when you joined so I can only remember the job interview
 I gave you. We never had the chance to create memories allowing me to make
 an email like I can for Heather. But nonetheless, I can only fare you well
 for the future.


 And remembering our discussions and your experiences, I can just hope
 you will start on your own project!


 Raju, thank you for the update.


 Change is natural in an org, but it had been years since we had that
 level of turnover. I do understand, running orgs myself and being a former
 chair of the board right after the last crisis, that those are very tough
 situations.


 I also know that when you are in the middle of change it is tough to
 make decisions that can be fully understood.


 However, it might be good if some better information about the
 situation were provided.


 Here one can only have theories about the situation, and remember with
 concern the the last time such turmoiled happened.


  In the span of 6 months the Foundation lost its CEO, COO, CCO, CTO,
 CoS (Chief of Staff). That is more than half of the C-Suite. When facing
 such turnover, it usually is a sign of deeper issues.


 As everyone in org theory loves to say, never waste a good crisis.


 As usual, we all have the best of the movement at heart. Any criticism
 comes from a place of deep care about our movement; as members of the loyal
 opposition. We can be wonderful allies and support if you allow us to be.


 Le lun. 28 juin 2021 à 9:14 PM, Raju Narisetti <
 rnarise...@wikimedia.org> a écrit :

> Dear All,
>
> On behalf of the Foundation Board, I’m writing to share with you that
> Chief Creative Officer Heather Walls and Chief Technology Officer Grant
> Ingersoll will 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Serbia board members

[attolippip]

Welcome, Teodora!
Thank you Filip, Marko and the whole team!
And congratulations, Miroslav! :)

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пн, 9 груд. 2019 о 23:37 Filip Maljkovic  пише:

> Hello everyone,
>
> Wikimedia Serbia held its General Assembly last night, when I formally
> stepped down as the president of the chapter, after being in that
> position for 6 years. Miroslav Loci (aka Mickey Mystique) was
> unanimously elected as the new president of Wikimedia Serbia.
>
> Marko Adam stepped down as a board member and Teodora Lukić is the newly
> elected board member. Therefore, the board of Wikimedia Serbia now
> consists of the following people:
>
> 1. Miroslav Loci - president
> 2. Đorđe Stakić - vice-president
> 3. Filip Maljković
> 4. Miljan Simonović
> 5. Bojana Satarić
> 6. Teodora Lukić
>
> It has been a privilege to serve as the president of Wikimedia Serbia
> and I'm certain that it will remain a stable and regionally strong
> chapter in the following years.
>
> Cheers,
> Filip Maljković
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board of Wikimedia Venezuela

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Congratulations! And warm welcome to Marianny and Lourdes!

Best regards,
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пн, 10 груд. 2018 о 10:40 Oscar Costero  пише:

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> At our seventh general assembly on November 24, the members of Wikimedia
> Venezuela elected its new board, whose members are the following:
>
> * Oscar Costero (re-elected)
> * Ybsen Lucero (re-elected)
> * Marianny Contreras
> * Lourdes Herrera
> * Samuel Cirilo
>
> Ybsen and Samuel have been in previous boards, while Marianny and Lourdes
> are new to our board, please join me in welcoming them. I also would like
> to thank Kevin Dels, Jin Kadaba and Tomas Guardia for their work as now
> former board members.
>
> During our assembly we proposed a new set bylaws to tackle the current
> outflow of volunteers and members that migrated the country in past years.
> We decided to have a new volunteer role in communication with the board
> that oversight our activities and engage with members, volunteers and
> expats in wiki activities around the globe. Jin Kadaba (Perú) and Santiago
> de Viana (Spain) were elected to this new post.
>
> I am delighted to be able to work with these people in favor of the mission
> and vision of our movement.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Oscar Costero
> Presidente | Wikimedia Venezuela
> J-40129321-2
> http://wikimedia.org.ve
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Foundation has soft launched!

[attolippip]

It also does not seem to work correctly on mobile (android):

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMFnewsiteonandroidmobile.png

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On Wed, Aug 8, 2018, 17:47 Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> On 8 August 2018 at 15:23, Shabab Mustafa 
> wrote:
>
> > I had to turn off my anti-tracking extension to see this site properly.
>
> This is how it appears for me, in Firefox (current version) with
> AdBlockPlus enabled:
>
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Screenshot_-_2018-08-08_-_Wikimedia_Foundation_blog.png
>
> AdBlockPlus is reportedly active on 100 million devices.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New board at Wikimedia Estonia

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Congratulations! And thank you for keeping us in the loop :)

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2018-02-18 17:07 GMT+02:00 Tanel Pern :

> Dear friends,
>
> Wikimedia Eesti is happy to announce the election of a new board at our
> yesterday's general assembly. The new board sees the return of
> long-standing board member Eva Lepik. Other members of the new board
> include Märt Põder, Käbi Suvi and Nicolás Tamargo de Eguren.
>
> On my part, I would like to thank Wikimedia Eesti for their trust and
> support over the last four years, and wish the new board the best of luck.
>
> Tanel Pern,
> (soon to be) ex-WMEE board
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMIL General Assembly meeting and Board elections 2017

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Congratulations!

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2017-05-09 12:01 GMT+03:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel 
:

> Dear all,
>
> Yesterday (8.5.17) Wikimedia Israel (WMIL) held a general assembly meeting,
> during which the members held the elections for members of the Board of
> WMIL.
>
> The results of the elections are as follows:
>
> Itzik Edri,(reelected)
> Deror Lin, (reelected)
> Ido Ivri, (reelected)
> Hana Yariv (reelected)
> Dana Dekel (reelected)
>
> Audit committee: Oved Cohen (reelected).
>
> The new Board then proceeded to reelect Itzik Edri as the chairperson, and
> to elect Ido Ivri as the Board Secretary
>
>
> Regards,
> Itzik
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why We Read Wikipedia in your language

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and Ukrainian :) and per Amir about instructions

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antanana

2017-04-21 20:03 GMT+03:00 Amir E. Aharoni :

> If I want this done for Hebrew and Russian, do I just reply to this thread?
> Or did I miss the instructions in the first email? :)
>
> בתאריך 21 באפר׳ 2017 19:46,‏ "Leila Zia"  כתב:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > ==Background==
> > In November 2016, I presented the result of a joint research that
> > helped us understand English Wikipedia readers better. (Presentation
> > at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIaMuWA84bY ). I talked about how
> > we used English, Persian, and Spanish Wikipedia readers' inputs to
> > build a taxonomy of Wikipedia use-cases along several dimensions,
> > capturing users’ motivations to visit Wikipedia, the depth of
> > knowledge they are seeking, and their knowledge of the topic of
> > interest prior to visiting Wikipedia. I also talked about the results
> > of the study we did to quantify the prevalence of these use-cases via
> > a large-scale user survey conducted on English Wikipedia. In that
> > study, we also matched survey responses to the respondents’ digital
> > traces in Wikipedia’s server logs which enabled us in discovering
> > behavioral patterns associated with specific use-cases. You can read
> > the full study at https://arxiv.org/abs/1702.05379 .
> >
> > ==What do we want to do now?==
> > There are quite a few directions this research can continue on, and
> > the most immediate one is to understand whether the results that we
> > observe (in English Wikipeida) is robust across languages/cultures.
> > For this, we are going to repeat the study, but this time in more
> > languages. Here are the languages on our list: Arabic, Dutch, English,
> > Hindi, Japanese, Spanish (thanks to all the volunteers who have been
> > helping us translating all survey related documents to these
> > languages.:)
> >
> > ==What about your language?==
> > If your language is not one of the six languages above and you'd like
> > to learn about the readers of Wikipedia in it (in the specific ways
> > described above), please get back to me by Monday, April 24, AoE. I
> > cannot guarantee that we can run the study in your language, however,
> > I guarantee that we will give it a good try if you're interested. The
> > decision to include more languages will depend on: our capacity to do
> > the analysis, the speed at which your community can help us translate
> > the material to the language, the traffic to that language, a couple
> > of sentences on how you'd think the result can help your community,
> > and your willingness to help us document the results for your language
> > at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_
> > Wikipedia_Reader_Behaviour
> > (Quite some work will need to go to have readable/usable
> > documentations available and we are too small to be able to guarantee
> > that on our own for many languages.)
> >
> > Best,
> > Leila
> >
> > --
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> > Senior Research Scientist
> > Wikimedia Foundation
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Danish Wikipedia turns 15

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Happy Birthday! ;)

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2017-02-02 0:03 GMT+02:00 Johan Jönsson :

> It's Danish Wikipedia's turn to turn 15. (:
>
> In those 15 years, the Danish community and passers-by have together
> created a bit over 223000 articles. They had a small meet-up in Copenhagen
> to celebrate a few hours ago, and some of the attention from the Danish
> media is collected here:
> https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Presse_2017
>
> //Johan Jönsson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Congratulation, Hebrew Wikipedia

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Wow, congratulations!
כל הכבוד

:)

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2016-12-29 17:10 GMT+02:00 Itzik - Wikimedia Israel 
:

> Hi,
>
> I'm happy to share with you that this morning the 200,000th article has
> been written on the Hebrew Wikipedia - The Southern Pudu (there is not
> article about him in English!):
> https://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A4%D7%95%D7%93%D7%95_%D7%
> 93%D7%A8%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%99
>
> Yesterday we released to the press a list of the top 20 most viewed
> articles on HEWP during the last year. Most of the news outlets in Israel
> published the list, but alongside the list, we added also some statistics:
> An average of 45 articles are written on by 760 active editors and 150 very
> active editors. The number of very active editors increased by 20% compare
> to last year [1] - while number globally increased only by 0.11% [2] and 0%
> on ENWP [3] .
>
> We are really proud of the Hebrew community and Wikimedia Israel volunteers
> who run and support great projects and initiatives, alongside the community
> members, to consistently increase the number of editors and their activity.
> This achievement is thanks to their efforts!.
>
>
> Happy near year from Israel!
>
>
> Some of the coverage about the most viewed articles on HEWP:
>
>- http://net.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1225240
>-
>http://www.mako.co.il/news-money/tech-q4_2016/Article-
> c3f561fba944951004.htm
>-
>http://reshet.tv/item/news/economics/computers-science-
> technology/wikipedia-most-read-2016-79561/
>- http://hakolkalul.nana10.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=1225272 (minute
>21:15)
>-
>http://www.mako.co.il/news-channel2/first-edition-q4_2016/Article-
> c7cea84f8464951004.htm?sCh=e3be6603e7478110&pId=25483675
>(minute 38:39)
>- http://www.calcalist.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3704729,00.html
>- http://www.ch10.co.il/news/335964/#.WGUkkht97mE
>- http://www.israelhayom.co.il/article/439575
>- http://mizbala.com/news/117472
>- http://www.maariv.co.il/news/israel/Article-568404
>- http://www.kipa.co.il/tarbut/70410.html
>- http://www.kipa.co.il/tarbut/70410.html
>- http://www.pc.co.il/it-news/231238/
>- http://www.ice.co.il/media/news/article/460324
>- http://tech.walla.co.il/item/3026625
>- http://www.hidabroot.org/article/215941
>
> [1] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryHE.htm
> [2] http://reportcard.wmflabs.org/#secondary-graphs-tab
> [3] https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/SummaryEN.htm
>
>
>
> *Regards,Itzik Edri*
> Chairperson, Wikimedia Israel
> +972-54-5878078 | http://www.wikimedia.org.il
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment!
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMDE-update: Christian Rickerts might become Undersecretary of State

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Wow. Good luck with all this :)

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2016-12-05 13:06 GMT+02:00 Tim Moritz Hector :

> Dear Wikimedians,
>
> On Saturday, the Green Party has resolved the coalition agreement for the
> future Berlin government and nominated their future government officials.
> The
> new designated Minister of economics, Ramona Pop, asked Christian to become
> her Undersecretary of State for the new Berlin ministry of economy, energy
> and enterprises. Now things are going to happen quite quickly: The future
> senate is scheduled to be constituted on December 8th. Right after that,
> Christian would take on the new responsibility.
>
> The Supervisory Board of Wikimedia Deutschland and Christian agree that
> this is a great opportunity that he should accept. I also see this as a
> huge compliment to our work at Wikimedia Deutschland.
>
> We are aware that this opportunity brings a lot of change for our
> organisation for the near future as well. Christian and I are currently
> working on the next steps together with our staff and community. We will
> provide you with regular updates regarding the transition process.
>
> Thank you very much and kind regards
>
> Tim Moritz Hector
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Direction] WMF Board of Trustees 2016 priorities

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Dear Chris,

A quick answer:
Yes, all Board Committees have been updated.
I guess it just takes some time to update the pages with all the changes :)

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2016-06-28 23:48 GMT+03:00 Chris Keating :

> Thanks Christophe!
>
> Just a quick question...
>
> >
> > The HR committee[2] will work toward that end, and the Board as whole is
> > ready to take any steps necessary to provide her, and the staff, with the
> > best environment possible.
> > [2] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/HR_Committee
>
>
> Has the HR Committee been updated to reflect the new Board - does it still
> consist of Patricio, Guy and Jimmy?
>
> Chris
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Welcome Delphine Ménard as WMF's Annual Plan Grants Program Officer

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Great news!
Congratulations Delphine!

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Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-06-20 15:55 GMT-07:00 Katy Love :

> Hi Wikimedians,
>
> Today WMF's Community Resources team is joined by Delphine Ménard as our
> newly appointed Annual Plan Grants
>  (APG) Program Officer. In
> that
> role, Delphine will support both funding streams included in the Annual
> Plan Grants program, including Simple Annual Plan Grants and the Funds
> Dissemination Committee's
> 
> (FDC) full process APG, with her focus on the FDC.  We are excited to have
> her join our team.
>
> Some of you may know Delphine as [[user:notafish]]. She's a longtime
> Wikimedian who has played many roles in our movement. She was WMF's
> Chapter's Coordinator many years ago, then a member of the Board of
> Wikimedia Deutschland, and most recently, a member of the Funds
> Dissemination Committee herself. Her wide array of experiences and roles
> will serve her well as the new APG Program Officer.
>
> In the weeks ahead, Delphine will be reaching out to the FDC-funded
> organizations and will also be leading the Board's recruitment to fill four
> open seats on the FDC. I know she is looking forward to working with all of
> you. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Katy Love
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Freedom of panorama today approved by Belgian parliament

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WOW, wonderful news indeed!

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Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-06-17 1:38 GMT+02:00 Romaine Wiki :

> Hi all,
>
> Great news!
>
> Freedom of panorama has been voted today in the Belgian parliament.
> A mayority voted in favour of freedom of panorama, including commercial
> use.
>
> Soon images of artworks and modern buildings in Belgium can be restored on
> Commons.
>
> But first the law needs to be published in the Staatsblad, and ten days
> later it will be official, but that is just a formality. (Will keep you
> updated on that.)
>
>
> Article in the news in Dutch:
> http://deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws/politiek/1.2685852
>
>
> In the past weeks, as well as since the campaign in Europe last year, we
> from Wikimedia Belgium have worked hard on this subject and communicated
> with the members of the parliament informing what this subject means for
> Wikipedia.
>
> With the founding of Wikimedia Belgium in 2014, this subject was a priority
> for us.
>
> Thanks all for the support!
>
> Let's get this implemented elsewhere too!
>
> Greetings from Belgium,
> Romaine
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Florida Librarians of Wikipedia

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Welcome! And congratulations :)

P.S. Are all members of the UG already subscribed to this list?
The page says that the talk page [1] is the best place to contact the group.
Maybe we need to post welcomes there, as Lane did :)

[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Florida_Librarians_of_Wikipedia

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2016-05-12 14:52 GMT+03:00 Carlos M. Colina :

> Dear all,
>
> It is my pleasure, on behalf of the Affiliations Committee, to announce
> the recognition of a new WIkimedia User Group: Florida Librarians of
> Wikipedia [1]
>
> As their name implies, they are librarians, and they want to focus on
> training other librarians on how to contribute to the different Wikimedia
> projects, especially Wikipedia. Apart from that, they have already
> organized some edit-a-thons and they're looking forward to organize more,
> as well as meetups of Wikimedians (librarians an non-librarians).
>
> Welcome to the family!
>
> 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Florida_Librarians_of_Wikipedia
> --
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> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya junain."
> Carlos M. Colina
> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 | www.wikimedia.org.ve
> 
> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> Phone: +972-52-4869915
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wiki Conference India 2016, logo challenge

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Dear Sailesh,

Thank you for the info :)

In Ukraine we usually ask people to publish their works under CC-zero
license [1], so we do not have to mention the author (and the license) on
pins and pens, but we mention the author(s) and license if there is enough
space for that (they are mentioned below on the conference banner here) [2]

[1]
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2015_Вікі_Львів_конференція_19–20.IX_2.svg
[2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Вики_баннер2.jpg

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Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-05-05 15:27 GMT+03:00 sailesh patnaik :

> Dear All,
>
> WikiConference India is inviting everyone to participate in the logo
> challenge.  The logo should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons by 10th May
> 2016 and should be licensed under CC-BY-SA 4.0.
> You can also vote for the proposed logos.
>
> For more information:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikConference_India_2016/Logo_Challenge
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
>
> --
> ---
> *Sailesh Patnaik* "*ଶୈଳେଶ ପଟ୍ଟନାୟକ*"
> Programme Associate, Access To Knowledge
> Centre for Internet and Society
> Phone: +91-7537097770
> *LinkedIn* : https://www.linkedin.com/in/sailesh-patnaik-551a10b4
> *Twitter* : @saileshpat
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

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Dear Lorenzo,

You can ask the chapters that voted already, if they are okay with
publishing the list.
I think. Personally I do not see a problem, but who knows.

JFYI, Wikimedia Ukraine has not voted yet, as we wanted to talk to the
candidates via skype/hangouts before making the final decision [1] [2] [3]
[4] [5] [6]
And during Wikimedia Conference we had a chance to talk only to three
people.
So we shall have a Board sitting on Friday, I hope.

[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:B1mbo#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ainali#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Siska.Doviana#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
[4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Effeietsanders#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
[5]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MADe#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats
[6]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Legoktm#Affiliate-selected_Board_seats

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2016-05-03 18:40 GMT+03:00 Laurentius :

> Il giorno mar, 03/05/2016 alle 08.05 -0400, Lane Rasberry ha scritto:
> > Or - I could be wrong. Should the list of voting chapters be reported?
> > What is the correct interpretation of closed voting in this case?
>
> At the end of 2015, before starting the election process, there has been
> some discussion about this on Meta.
> The result was in favour of publishing, after the end of the election,
> the list of affiliates who voted.
> The idea of publishing a partial list during the voting process was not
> proposed; personally I think it's fine and it makes sense, but I'd like
> to hear a few opinions about this from the involved affiliates.
>
> Lorenzo
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] New Wikimedia Italy Board

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Welcome :)

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Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-04-13 17:58 GMT+03:00 Ginevra Sanvitale :

> Dear all,
> I'm glad to announce the new composition of Wikimedia Italy board:
>
> Board of Directors
> *President: Lorenzo Losa [[User:Laurentius]]
> *Vice-President: Cristian Consonni [[User:CristianCantoro]]
> *Secretary: Ginevra Sanvitale [[User:Atropine]]
> *Treasurer: Simone Cortesi [[User:Cortesi]]
> *Programme Coordinator: Luca Martinelli [[User:Sannita]]
>
> Ombudspersons:
> *Maurizio Codogno [[User:.mau.]]
> *Roberto Corda [[User:DracoRoboter]]
> *Iolanda Pensa [[User:Iopensa]]
> *Francesco Carbonara [[User:Fcarbonara]] (stand-in)
> *Giovanni Augulino [[User:Triquetra]] (stand-in)
>
> We would also like to thank the former ombudspersons Marina Milella and
> Federico Cantoni, as well as Saverio Giulio Malatesta for his candidacy.
>
> Best,
> (and sorry for the double posting!)
>
>
> Ginevra
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Access and Participation in the ASBS

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Dear all,

As you are (probably) aware, the 2016 affiliate-selected Board seats
process has started already. And I do think that the process is broken
somewhere [1]. The democracy principles even in my country, though it is
far from being a role model for transparency and governance, state that
people are equal and they have rights and responsibilities. But the process
at the moment is not fair and equal footing is not provided for. It is
great to have dedicated friends across the Movement that can translate your
statement into German or Chinese, but as long as not all statements are
translated into the languages used in all affiliates eligible to vote, I
deem the process broken.

Thus I formally request that WMF spend enough resources to have all
nominations pages translated into all languages requested by the affiliates
eligible to vote [2] [3] and all languages used already by the nominees. I
am sure that the three facilitators cannot provide it. And there are limits
to what volunteers can do [4] or how fast. If WMF refuses, I am going to
use my own money [5], it costs 150 UAH (around 6 USD) to have a page
translated into Swedish, for example :) I can manage 7 pages translated
into as many languages as my personal budget will allow, but I shall do it
fairly at least, so we won’t have Susanna’s statement only in English and
Spanish, while Osmar’s is also in German, Catalan and French. WMF spends
considerable resources (mostly in staff time) on supporting the three
"community-elected" seats, but these two seats are not lesser board seats
than the three "community" ones.

The nominees write their statement in English. Nothing wrong with that, of
course. But for a tiny little (and big) thing: not everybody understands it
well enough to make an informed choice. But even among seven board members
of Wikimedia Ukraine, two DO NOT SPEAK English, so they can read the
statements only if they [the statements] are translated into Ukrainian.
They have no choice, actually. In discussing whether to endorse my
candidacy, they either have to believe the rest of the Board members that I
am the most wonderful candidate and the others are just not as wonderful
and that’s it, or they are to ignore the Board meeting where this decision
is to be made. They can spend time editing Wikipedia or reading instead.

And beyond the language issue, there is the informing and participation
issue: I am not sure how this process is organised in other affiliates, and
how you make your decisions to vote for this or that possibility (in terms
of this, I believe that there are seven possibilities presented at the
moment, by us, as nominees. So you can accept or decline what we seven
offer). You (actually) do not know us and if we are going to be great or
poor as Board members of WMF, and if we are the right-for-the-moment
choice, but you are going to choose. Are you really going to choose just
based on your personal contacts? Remember, in most cases administrators are
chosen more objectively, as it is almost impossible to get to know them
first personally. They are ‘judged’ by their deeds before, during and
after… Were you going to ask your communities what they think about the
candidates? And the members of your affiliate? If not, please consider this
option. We do have a sad example of an appointed Board member being not
accepted by us, as the Community.

I am sorry for the long letter. I do believe I have a right to request (and
suggest) this. I was a part of a team that made sure that the Ukrainian
community REALLY knows about the elections so the eligible users on UKWP
have voted [6] [7] And we really worked to make that happen. As you can
see, Board elections may be of great importance to the whole community. So
(at least) informing your own members is important, I believe.

Best regards,

antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv

Wikimedia Ukraine

[1] There is a question about the ‘turnout in this selection process’
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliate-selected_Board_seats/2016/Questions#Turnout_in_this_selection_process
so you’d think that people care. But do they? Really?
[2] I think that contacting each affiliate eligible to vote and asking them
if they need help to translate the statements and if yes, what languages
are required by memberships/affiliates’ leadership to read the statements.
By doing this we also make sure that they are aware of the upcoming
elections and are engaged

[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters

[4] Because they just may be not willing to do it

[5] well, I was going to translate into Ukrainian all statement anyway,
translating is the best way to read the statement thoughtfully :)
[6] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2015-May/077966.html
[7]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Stats
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Ukraine’s Board

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Dear all,

I want formally introduce to you Wikimedia Ukraine’s Board, elected by our
General Assembly on December 27, 2015.

We can do it only now, as we have just recently successfully completed the
requirements from our state to change the people responsible for the
chapter officially [1].

Three people has decided not to run this year, and I want to thank them
wholeheartedly for all their time and efforts spent on our projects and
making this world better for a change:


   -

   [[User:Amakuha]], Andrii Makuha. He has been our Chair for the last two
   years; his calm personality helped us a lot, especially during the most
   turbulent times of transferring «power» from one to another Chapter Board
   «without pain» [2], as Andrii has tried his best to understand everyone and
   continue the dialogues even when it seems that we won’t be able to come to
   any acceptable terms. By the way, awarding Wikizghushchivka [3] was his
   idea.
   -

   [[User:NickK]], Mykola Kozlenko, our Treasurer, with great analytical
   skills and profound knowledge about the Community (and I am talking not
   only about our local community, but the global one as well) and the
   Wikimedia Movement. He is actively engaged in Wikimedia Ukraine’s projects,
   though he lives in France and can contribute almost only via Internet. But
   he was able to be a vital part of organizing the rather successful regional
   conference WIkimedia CEE Meeting in Kyiv in December 2014.
   -

   [[User:Ліонкінг]], Levon Azizian. He is a lawyer in real life, a
   passionate Wiki(m|p)edian. He is blessed with the skills to make the
   dreams ideas come into reality, as he is very convincing and one
   just gets the feeling that (s)he can do it. And so they do it :) And then
   there is only a pure wonder of: wow, we have organized a wikiconference in
   2 weeks; wow, we have organized a CEE Meeting in a month; wow, we can
   actually (but it is really hard!) organize wikitrainings for two weeks
   non-stop in Luhansk region, go to librarians, preach about editing
   Wikipedia… and just around the corner there is a real war zone…


These three are my dear friends, and I was really sorry to see them not
running. But it was our dream from a long ago: to have more great
Wiki(m|p)edians join the chapter and get interested in our projects. So
here we have our newly elected three Board members:


   -

   [[User:Olena Zakharian]], Olena Zakharian. She was (and still is!) our
   press secretary, she is very keen about Nature and Freedom of Speech, she
   believes in our Mission and has contributed greatly to most of our projects
   before and she is a crucial part of our Board becoming more transparent for
   our Community.
   -

   [[User:Helgi]], Oleh Yatsozhynskyi. He is an active member of Ukrainian
   Wikipedia community, he has joined the organization only in September, but
   he is an invaluable part of us now (especially his directness :)) He is
   responsible for Wikiexpeditions now [4], and he is full of ideas and desire
   to implement them (and that’s something really really important, you know)
   -

   [[User:Pavlo1]], Pavlo Lakiichuk. He is the Secretary of the Board now,
   so he is responsible for all the boring stuff around the process of making
   decisions. He is also an active member of our local community, he cares
   about wikiprojects a lot. He has initiated a number of meetings for
   creators of “real” encyclopedias and wikipedians to talk a few issues over
   and get to know each other better (well, it works! quite a few myths were
   dismissed by talking over a cup of tea :) )


The other four members of the Board, re-elected for this year, are:

   -

   [[User:Ilya]], Illia Korniiko. He is our Chair now. He codes. :) WLX
   Jury Tool is his pet project, but he was deprived of almost all chances to
   work on it, as our state’s bureaucratic system is quite a monster to
   overcome...
   -

   [[User:Юрій Булка]], Yurii Bulka. He is responsible for Wikipedia
   Education Program in Ukraine. And he was the one to suggest and implement
   the project of digitizing and making available the phonograph cylinder
   collection of Filaret Kolessa (early 20th century) [5]
   -

   [[User:Friend]], Pavlo Sokhan. He is an administrator of uk.wikiquote,
   works in a library. He has contributed greatly into organizing of the first
   Wikimedia CEE Spring article contest in 2015. He is now responsible for our
   book scanning kit [6] and we hope to get lots of stuff scanned and uploaded
   to Wikiprojects :)
   -

   and [[user:antanana]], Nataliia Tymkiv. I am an administrator of
   Ukrainian Wikipedia, and I am quite active in a lot of Wikimedia Ukraine’s
   projects. I am a member of Simple Annual Plan Grants Committee [7]


I am sorry for a bit long introduction. But I do believe that it is vital
for us all to work together, so even if you do not read the whole letter
and remember all the names, you’ll be able to find the info abou

[Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

[attolippip]

+1 to Yurik



best regards,
antanana

2016-02-27 1:23 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan :

> Lodewijk, this is a very valid point, thanks.  My understanding is that
> this process done in private has lost some of its credibility with the
> staff and the community, and thus I would like to get some understanding on
> how we can do that same process in the open, without offending anyone.  In
> the wiki world, I think most of the time people
> have publicly nominated candidates for various roles, and that has not been
> a concern. Of course the nick names provide some degree of anonymity, so
> this might not be exactly the same.
>
> On Feb 27, 2016 01:57, "Lodewijk"  wrote:
>
> > While I love public discussions, I must say I always feel a bit awkward
> to
> > discuss people in public, unless there is no other choice.
> >
> > To discuss people without them agreeing to it, may even be considered
> rude
> > by some. You're throwing up names, which can realistically only lead to
> > people supporting it, because if you would be against it, it would
> possibly
> > be a slap in the face of someone you like.
> >
> > If you really see a serious potential candidate, why not send it to the
> > board? or, once a public call is being made, point those people to it.
> >
> > Lodewijk
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <
> yastrak...@wikimedia.org
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > For the inside, I would think Yana W would be a good candidate, but as
> > Raul
> > > Veede suggested on FB, it would be bad to loose her expertise in her
> > > current role.
> > >
> > > Dan, I think you are right that we are not yet ready to have a drop-in
> > > replacement simply because we should figure out what went wrong first.
> > > Possibly we shouldn't even have an ED, but rather have a flatter
> > > community-driven committee that allocates funds, and projects getting
> > > resources from it. And this committee would, in affect, be the
> > > direction-determining force.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Oliver Keyes 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm agreed with Dan and Nathan (well, Nathan's implied point) both.
> > > >
> > > > Right now we need stability. I'd much prefer an interim ED appointed
> > > > from inside the organisation or movement, ideally someone who has
> been
> > > > watching what's been going on. And then time for healing and
> > > > reflection in that space of stability that lets us make a better
> > > > decision.
> > > >
> > > > I have no particular opinions on Lessig - or on Creative Commons -
> > > > except to note that the organisational leaders are the people whose
> > > > opinions on trauma around reorganisations least matter, insofar as,
> > > > structurally, they are both the people least likely to be messed over
> > > > by them and the people most detached from any swirling mass of
> feeling
> > > > that exists in the employee base. I'd be interested instead in
> hearing
> > > > from current or former employees (I know a couple and they are not as
> > > > positive, but it's a small sample size) to make any evaluation more
> > > > informed.
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Dan Andreescu <
> > dandree...@wikimedia.org
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I met him, he's amazingly focused and radical, I appreciate his
> brand
> > > of
> > > > intellect very much. But I think suggesting candidates for the ED
> > > position
> > > > at this time is jumping two steps ahead of where we are.
> > > > >
> > > > > We just screwed up. We were all dragged through months of an
> awkward
> > > > collapse of our leadership and organizational structure. Before we
> > start
> > > > piling the rubble of this collapse back up into the same exact shape
> > > with a
> > > > different keystone, let's take a breath and think.
> > > > >
> > > > > First we should make sure we understand what, more or less, failed.
> > It
> > > > was not just Lila. Second, we should talk about what options we have
> > and
> > > > what criteria we should use to evaluate those options.
> > > > >
> > > > > We can be patient. We have reaffirmed our respect for each other
> and
> > we
> > > > trust each other enough to share ideas, emotions, and proposals. This
> > is
> > > > our foundation, and it hasn't collapsed.
> > > > >
> > > > >   Original Message
> > > > > From: Yuri Astrakhan
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 16:47
> > > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > > > Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Lawrence Lessig for ... WMF
> > > > >
> > > > > I would like to continue the discussion of who, in an ideal case,
> > would
> > > > be
> > > > > a good fit for the ED position. This person has to fit culturally,
> > > share
> > > > > movement's values, and be a trusted figure in the time of
> rebuilding.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lawrence Lessig seems to have a very strong support in the
> community,
> > > and
> > > > > even attempted to run (unsuccessfully) a large organization called
> > > United
> > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katy Love to direct WMF Resources team

[attolippip]

Congratulations! :)
To us all :)

Best regards,
antanana
Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-02-26 1:02 GMT+02:00 Maggie Dennis :

> Hello, all.
>
> I am delighted to announce that Katy Love has agreed to step into the role
> of Director of Resources in the Community Engagement department, picking up
> the baton so ably carried by Siko Bouterse before her. Katy has been with
> the Wikimedia Foundation since January 2013, beginning as the first program
> officer to work with the Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC). I’m grateful
> to her for moving into this role and am looking forward to collaborating
> with her closely in WMF’s Community Engagement department.
>
> We will be hiring her replacement to oversee the FDC/full annual plan
> grants program in the weeks ahead.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Maggie
>
> P.S. Their page! https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources
>
> --
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> Interim Sr. Director of Community Engagement
> Director, Support and Safety
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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[Wikimedia-l] (no subject)

[attolippip]

Thank you Ido and +1 to your message.

I would also +1 to Yaroslav's message, but I want to note, that though most
volunteers would not care about smth (seemingly) far away like WMF and its
troubles, they WOULD care about backlogs of bugs that are piling up, lack
of strategic approach to high-priority things like the Education extension
etc. And some volunteers (no doubt) are really upset by repeated cycles of
bad press we are getting. Unnecessarily...

Best regards,
antanana
Board Member of WMUA

2016-02-18 23:52 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter :

> On 2016-02-18 21:20, Leila Zia wrote:
>
>> Hi Dariusz,
>>
>> I want to share with you the following relatively scattered thoughts and
>> leave it to you to decide how to continue engaging with us. :-) I hope you
>> find them helpful:
>>
>> * BoT has been too silent, given the state of matters. I'm much more
>> worried about our volunteers when I say this, than the WMF's staff (which
>> I'm one of).
>>
>
> To be honest, most volunteers do not care. We understand of course that if
> things would go really wrong, for example, servers stop running, or money
> runs out and ads are introduced, or English Wikipedia admins continue
> resigning/being desysopped without proper replacement, so that we have ten
> active admins, then we are in serious trouble. But as far as things are
> running quasi-normal, we just continue. I was making 50 to 100 edits per
> day five years ago, I am making 50 to 100 edits per day now, I will
> probably still be making 50 to 100 edits per day in five years, unless I
> die or leave because of a serious demotivation - and this demotivation is
> unlikely to be related to WMF. I think staff are way more vulnerable to all
> kinds of events.
>
>
> * Because of the lack of clear communications by the BoT, I'm uncertain
>> whether there is an acknowledgement by the BoT about the issues we are
>> facing. What can assure me at the moment is to see a list of items the BoT
>> sees as problematic, and a plan for addressing them, and a schedule for
>> when we should expect seeing them addressed. (Half-jokingly: maybe we need
>> a phabrictor board for the BoT to track specific tasks that can be shared
>> publicly and their prioritization).
>>
>>
> This is a cool idea. It is a pity it has zero chances to be realized.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Another goodbye

[attolippip]

Oh, Siko... I am really sorry to see this letter of yours.
But I am truly grateful for all your support and understanding.
In wikiworld being awfully far in real life does not matter that much,
so I have always felt that you are near...

Thank you

Warm regards,
antanana
Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-02-12 3:24 GMT+02:00 Siko Bouterse :

> Dear friends and colleagues,
>
> I’ve had the amazing privilege of serving this movement in a staff capacity
> for the past 4 ½ years, but I’ve now decided to move on from my role at the
> Wikimedia Foundation.
>
> Transparency, integrity, community and free knowledge remain deeply
> important to me, and I believe I will be better placed to represent those
> values in a volunteer capacity at this time. I am and will always remain a
> Wikimedian, so you'll still see me around the projects (User:Seeeko),
> hopefully with renewed energy and joy in volunteering.
>
> This movement has become my home in so many unexpected ways, and I’m truly
> honored to have learned from so many of you. It was an amazing experience
> to have partnered with smart, bold, and dedicated community folks to
> experiment with projects like Teahouse, IdeaLab, Inspire, Individual
> Engagement Grants, and Reimagining Grants. I’ve seen you create some really
> incredible content, ideas, tools, programs, processes, committees and
> organizations, all in the service of free knowledge.
>
> I expect my last day to be Thursday, February 25th. I have full confidence
> in Maggie Dennis's abilities to lead the Community Engagement Department,
> and I trust that my team will remain available to support the community’s
> needs for grants and other resources throughout this time of transition.
>
> Much love,
> Siko
>
> --
> Siko Bouterse
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> *Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge. *
> *Donate  or click the "edit" button today,
> and help us make it a reality!*
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell <3

[attolippip]

<3 <3 <3
may you fare well
it was pleasure working together...
you have inspired me a lot
and I am thankful for all your work

see you <3

warm regards,
antanana
Wikimedia Ukraine

2016-02-09 19:49 GMT+02:00 Anna Koval :

> Dear friends,
>
> During the past three years, I have been privileged to be a part of this
> movement and this organization.
>
> I have been honored to be your colleague and to work with you in service of
> the sum of all knowledge.
>
> In particular, I wish to note particular projects that have inspired me
> very much.
>
>- Working with Philippe Beautdette, Maggie Dennis, James Alexander, and
>Jan Eisfeldt to keep our community safe from threats of harm. [1]
>- Working with Patrick Earley, Nick Wilson, Erica Litrenta, Sherry
>Snyder, Oliver Keyes, and James Forester on the rollout of
> VisualEditor. [2]
>- Working with Yana Welinder and Heather Walls to design a user-friendly
>trademark policy. [3] [4]
>- Working with Siko Bouterse to support Individual Engagement Grants and
>movement diversity. [5] [6]
>- Working with Jake Orlowitz to promote the Wikipedia Library and the
>Wikipedia Adventure. [7] [8]
>- Working with Jaime Anstee, Edward Galvez, Amanda Bittaker to encourage
>evaluation and learning. [9]
>- Working with Asaf Bartov to encourage regional cooperation in Central
>and Eastern Europe. [10]
>- Working with Floor Koudijs. Tighe Flanagan, Kacie Harold, Samir
>Elsharbaty, Rodney Dunican, Sage Ross, Jami Mathewson, and LiAnna Davis
> on
>the Wikipedia Education Program. [11]
>
> The Wikipedia Education Program is especially near and dear to my heart. It
> is a means of educating readers, recruiting contributors, and creating
> quality content. Since 2014, the number of education initiatives around the
> world has increased by 36%. [12] [13] And 25% of all education programs are
> in one of the regions that I directly supported. [14] I am so proud of what
> they have accomplished. And I am enthusiastic about what great things they
> have yet to achieve.
>
> I want to thank and compliment my current manager, Floor Koudijs. She is a
> competent, considerate, conscientious leader, and her diplomacy skills are
> unsurpassed. I am confident that the education team and the education
> program will continue to excel under her leadership. They are in the best
> hands.
>
> I want to thank and compliment my hiring manager, Maggie Dennis. She had
> faith that, although I wasn’t an active community member, I could be taught
> to be a good community advocate. I am so proud that I proved her right. She
> taught me how to work in accordance with and to have the utmost respect for
> the wiki way. [15]
>
> Wikipedia is a miracle, a monument to altruism. It is vital to the internet
> ecosystem, and it is vital to the education system. I hope that more young
> people especially will find their way to it and help out. And when they do,
> I hope that they are met with wise mentorship from veteran community
> members, just as I was.
>
> I intend to remain a Wikipedian even after I am no longer a WMF staff
> member. And, with that promise, I’ll see you on the wikis. [16]
>
> All the best,
> Anna Koval, M.Ed.
>
> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Threats_of_harm
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/VisualEditor
> [3] https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Trademark_policy
> [4]
>
> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/10/29/designing-a-user-friendly-trademark-policy/
> [5] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IEG
> [6] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Diversity_Conference
> [7] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Library
> [8] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wikipedia_Adventure
> [9] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation
> [10] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Central_and_Eastern_Europe
> [11] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education
> [12]
>
> https://outreach.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Education/Countries&oldid=70367
> [13] https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/Countries
> [14]
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File%3ACEE_2015_State_of_the_CEE_Movement_Presentation.pdf&page=28
> [15] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_wiki_way
> [16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Msannakoval
>
> --
>
> Anna Koval, M.Ed.
> Manager, Wikipedia Education Program
> Wikimedia Foundation
> +1.415.839.6885 x 6729
> Skype: annakoval.wiki
> ako...@wikimedia.org
> education.wikimedia.org
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

[attolippip]

Hello everybody.

What grieves me most is that this edit was done by only a few people,
however powerful [1]
And to make this edit a lot of work and far more trust was involved... [2]

[1]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees&diff=104353&oldid=103933
[2]
https://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=Board_of_Trustees&diff=102702&oldid=101417

Best regards,
antanana
Board member of Wikimedia Ukraine

2015-12-29 3:39 GMT+02:00 James Heilman :

> As Patricio stated the "Board has a responsibility to ... ensure that the
> Board functions with *mutual confidence*"
>
> My fellow trustees need no reason beyond lack of trust in me to justify my
> removal. No reason beyond that is needed per our board by laws.
>
> There was not any COI or legal impropriety on my part. I have done what I
> believe is in the best interest of our movement. I hope Patricio and I can
> work together to provide greater explanation in the coming days.
>
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> MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
>
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[Wikimedia-l] Wiki Loves Earth 2015 winners announced!

[attolippip]

Hi everyone and sorry for crossposting :)

Best regards,
antanana
ED of Wikimedia Ukraine

-- Forwarded message --

We are happy to announce the results of Wiki Loves Earth photo contest! And
we would like to take this occasion to thank those of you who helped us
make this WLE happen, be it by coordinating a national contest or providing
technical help, uploading photos or working in a jury.

So, the winning photo is...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Shangrila_Resorts.jpg , a photo of
Lower Kachura Lake from Pakistan by Zaeem Siddiq. Top-15 also includes
photos from (alphabetically) Austria, Brazil, Estonia, France, Germany,
Rep. of Macedonia, Poland, Portugal, Russia, Thailand, Tunisia amd Ukraine

The top-15 photos were published in Wikimedia blog :
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/15/wiki-loves-earth-winners/
 . We have
also published a jury report with full results and some comments from the
jury :
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wle-jury-report-2015-lores.pdf

As results are public now, we would like to ask you to do the following:
* Please translate this post into your language! Translations can be done
at
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Drafts/See_the_stunning_winning_photographs_from_Wiki_Loves_Earth_2015
, and we would especially love to see translations into languages of
winners (Arabic, Estonian, French, German, Macedonian, Polish, Portuguese,
Russian, Thai and Urdu)!
* Please add descriptions of this photos into your language - and consider
adding them to articles of your Wikipedia (and write th! em if you don't
have yet!)
* and of course feel free to add to articles and/or nominate for featured
or quality images any of 108,000 Wiki Loves Earth images:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Images_from_Wiki_Loves_Earth_2015

Thanks again to those who helped this edition of Wiki Loves Earth become a
success and hope to see you in May 2016 for the next edition!

For the international team,
Mykola Kozlenko (NickK)
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Join the community review of 11 annual plan grants proposals to the FDC

[attolippip]

Thank you very much!
Your work is really appreciated. It was very very useful

Best regards,
antanana
ED of Wikimedia Ukraine

2015-10-09 8:42 GMT+03:00 Anders Wennersten :

> I have now reviewed these proposals (with the exception of WMDE, being too
> complex, and WMSE, due to COI). It is the fourth consecutive year I do this
> and most entities has been there all years.
>
> I want to share my general finding that there has been a major improvement
> in most of the proposals and plans, especially among the older chapters.
>
> I find we are reaching a new level of professionalism in these entities,
> where I also have a feeling is related to a set of very successful
> recruitment of new EDs
>
> Being an old chapter board member and FDC member it is most satisfying
> seeing this important progress!
>
> Anders
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Den 2015-10-06 kl. 21:32, skrev Katy Love:
>
>> Hello, Wikimedians!
>>
>> I want to share with you that the community review period for the Annual
>> Plan Grants (APG) program is underway for eleven proposals. These
>> organizations are requesting unrestricted funding to support their annual
>> plans, including both programmatic and operational costs. These requests
>> in
>> Round 1 total roughly US$4.2 million, out of US$6 million available in
>> both
>> rounds this year. In mid-November, Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC),
>> [1]
>> a volunteer committee made up of members of the Wikimedia community, will
>> convene. They will meet in San Francisco to discuss these proposals in
>> detail and make a recommendation to the WMF Board of Trustees on use of
>> these funds.
>>
>>  From now until 30 October, we invite everyone to review the proposals,
>> and
>> to provide thoughts and ask questions on the discussion pages of the
>> proposals. You can begin your exploration of the proposals on the
>> community
>> review landing page here:
>>
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/Proposals/2015-2016_round1/Community_review
>> .
>>
>>
>> About community review: Annual plan grant proposals are submitted to the
>> FDC on 1 October. That is followed by a 30-day open comment period. During
>> this community review, all are invited to provide input on and ask
>> questions about specific proposals on the discussion pages of the proposal
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising

[attolippip]

Sad news indeed.
Is there a public discussion about this issue anywhere?
Can we get the WMF comments about it publicly?

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2015-08-18 21:42 GMT+03:00 Romaine Wiki :

> Hi all,
>
> Sad news.
> The title of this thread seems a bit hard, but that is practically the
> situation as it looks now.
>
> *Background*
> Wiki Loves Monuments is the yearly photo contest since 2010, organised by
> many local Wikipedia communities and local chapters. For this contest a
> banner is shown on top of Wikipedia pages in the specific countries to
> attract attention from the public to participate in enriching Wikipedia
> with photos of the local cultural heritage.
>
> Wiki Loves Monuments depends for at least 99% on the banner. When there is
> no banner, the uploads and results drop dramatically, as possible
> participants are not informed and can't easily find the contest site. Also
> participants need time to go on location to take photos and see the banner
> above Wikipedia afterwards to find their way back.
>
>
>
> *What is the situation?*
> * The fundraising team plans to have a fundraising banner in Italy during
> the month September.
> * The local team of Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy is organising the
> contest in Italy and needs a banner as well.
>
> As there can be shown only one banner at the time, there have been talks
> about these conflicting banners. Result: Wiki Loves Monuments get only
> 37,5% of the time, the fundraising banner 62,5% of the time.
>
> Now you maybe think that 37,5% of the time is still large, but the
> appearances are deceptive because of the different ways the banner is used,
> and because the differences in numbers of upload throughout the month
> September. Also the banner is not shown at all during two full weeks,
> important weeks to attract participants. In the end I estimate, based on
> the usage and issues of previous years, etc, that only 10-15% of the
> uploads are made in comparison what normally would have been expected.
>
> This is what I would call a devastating effect.
>
> And this is purely because of bad planning at WMF:
> * They haven't checked which countries participated continuously the past
> years.
> * They haven't informed which countries are likely to participate.
> * And they say they can't move the fundraising banner to another month,
> but it is still a mystery why that isn't possible.
>
> This same issue was originally the case in two countries, but somehow it
> was possible to move it for the second country.
>
> This is really sad for Italy. Extra sad because of the difficult copyright
> situation in Italy, what requires the local team already to do much much
> much more work than in most other countries, just to have a normal contest.
> The Italian team does a great job this year.
>
>
> *My conclusion*
> The community is working very hard on improving and expanding the content
> of Wikipedia by organising Wiki Loves Monuments. I always thought that this
> was the number one priority of the whole Wikimedia movement. Did I made a
> wrong assumption somehow?
>
> But when it actually matters, the community project bears the bunt. This
> is sad, very sad.
>
>
> Please all, support the Italian team, they do a great job and deserve a
> successful contest.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Romaine
>
>
>
> PS: I am one of the international organisers of Wiki Loves Monuments this
> year, but this e-mail is written on my personal account only.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell

[attolippip]

May you fare well!

We have published a few blog posts and you have been a great help to us.
Wish you all the best!

Best regards,
antanana
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2015-06-18 19:25 GMT+03:00 Fabrice Florin :

> Hello everyone,
>
> After three great years working at the foundation, the time has come to
> say goodbye.
>
> I will be leaving WMF at the end of June, to spend more time with my
> family, focus on personal art projects and consult part-time on worthy
> causes.
>
> I would like to thank all the community and team members I have had the
> pleasure to work with over the years. It has been an honor to serve our
> movement together — and to help our contributors share free knowledge with
> each other and the world.
>
> I’m particularly grateful to Katherine Maher and our WMF communications
> team for being such wonderful collaborators. I really enjoyed working with
> them to manage and edit the Wikimedia blog, help grow our team and publish
> some great stories together, to celebrate the heroes of our movement.
>
> Going forward, WMF's Juliet Barbara will manage the Wikimedia blog, in
> close collaboration with Ed Erhart. As many of you know, Ed is the former
> editor-in-chief of the Wikipedia Signpost and has now joined our team for
> the summer. I've worked with him for nearly a month now and find him
> uniquely qualified for this project. Starting today, please contact them
> directly with any questions about the blog (they are Cc:d on this message).
>
> After June 30, you can reach me at  — or follow
> me on Twitter ( @fabriceflorin ) or on my blog ( http://fabriceflorin.com
> ).
>
> The last three years have been an incredible experience for me, and I am
> grateful for all that I have learned from so many of you. You’ve been an
> inspiration to me and I have many fond memories of our time together. I
> wish you all the best with the next chapter of the Wikimedia movement and
> can’t wait to see what you’ll come up with next.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
> Fabrice
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

[attolippip]

Oh, Liam, you are right :)

We award the "best newbie of the month" on Ukrainian Wikipedia and award
him/her with a can of condensed milk via post [1]
(we also award with a can of condensed milk the "best contributor of the
month", and want to do it is a few smaller wikiprojects as well (Wikiquote,
f.ex.))

For this we create the lists with all contributions (main namespace only)
for all users per project per months [2] and look if the contributions are
in line with the rules (no copyright violation, vandalism etc.). Then a
message on the talk page with a picture of a can and after the winner gives
us his/her postal address, we send him/her the can itself :) [3]

It is sweet. I can vouch for that :)

[1]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%88%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8E
[2]
https://ua.wikimedia.org/wiki/%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%88%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8E/bb:%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F
[3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Zgushchivka_poshtoyu

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2015-06-11 22:04 GMT+03:00 Liam Wyatt :

> And the award for for the first negative comment on this thread that is
> designed to be "about things going right" goes to Trilliam.
> Congratulations on being the official "party pooper" of Wikimedia-l. There
> will be cake tomorrow.
>
> To return to nice things, and in response to the previous message by A
> ntanana:
> I learned a few months ago that in the Ukrainian Wikipedia they don't give
> out "barnstars", the give out "cans of condensed milk"! Why? Because
> they're sweet :-)
>
> https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%97%D0%B3%D1%83%D1%89%D1%96%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0
>
>
> And, please correct me if I'm wrong Antanana, but you also identify the
> "best newbie" each month on the Ukrainian Wikipedia and physically send a
> can of condensed milk to that person in the mail?! I think that's just the
> coolest, funnest, most unique way of celebrating new contributors I've
> heard of!
>
> -Liam / Wittylama.
>
> wittylama.com
> Peace, love & metadata
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] What's cool?

[attolippip]

Dear Johan,
Our greetings to you! [1]

And Ukrainian Wikipedia now has one more article because of Danish
Wikipedia :)) [2]
(and because of 100wikidays challenge, of course [3])

[1]
https://wikimediaukraine.wordpress.com/2015/06/11/wikipedia-danskoiu-siahnula-200-tysiach-statei/
[2] https://uk.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1957629
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/100wikidays

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2015-06-11 1:11 GMT+03:00 Johan Jönsson :

> As of writing, Danish Wikipedia is now 32 articles from reaching 200,000.
> It's midnight in Denmark now, so it will at some point tomorrow, CET.
>
> //Johan Jönsson
> --
>
> 2015-06-04 14:41 GMT-07:00 phoebe ayers :
>
> > I need a break from thinking about things going wrong. And so per Milos'
> > observation that discussion here is falling off, I thought I'd start an
> > open discussion thread about things going right.
> >
> > What's a cool thing you just discovered or are involved in that is
> > happening in the Wikimedia world?
> >
> > My contribution: the SF Wikimedia list just had an announcement about an
> > edit-a-thon (organized by Jake Orlowitz at the wmf office) that is
> > happening during the American Libraries Conference, which is in SF this
> > year. 30,000 librarians attend ALA! I'm super pleased we are infiltrating
> > library conferences :)
> >
> > What's happening over in your part of the project?
> >
> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

[attolippip]

in my humble opinion, what's the big deal?

we usually vote openly in the projects
and everything bad/great about this or that user is revealed really openly
(sometimes too openly, but well... nothing to be done here)
it is our own decision whether to vote and how to vote, isn't it?


best,
antanana
ED of Wikimedia Ukraine

2015-06-04 1:14 GMT+03:00 Michael Peel :

>
> > At the link, you can find
> > List votes: Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections 2015
> > https://vote.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SecurePoll/list/512
>
> I personally don't mind it being made public that I voted in this
> election, but this really is something that voters should be clearly
> informed about when they place their votes!
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] While Election committee counts the votes...

[attolippip]

There were only 9 votes from Ukrainian community in 2013, I believe

So this year we just made sure that our community REALLY knows about the
elections, thus we:

- translated the candidates statements into Ukrainian
- prepared a short table with the essence of these statements in Ukrainian
and posted it in the Village pump [1]
- created a list of everybody eligible to vote from Ukrainian Wikipedia and
sent them a message with invitation to vote and with the links to read more
about the candidates via talk pages
- and just talked :)

[1]
https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D1%8F:%D0%92%D0%B8%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B8_%D0%92%D1%96%D0%BA%D1%96%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%B4%D1%96%D0%B0-2015

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antanana
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2015-06-01 1:00 GMT+03:00 Johan Jönsson :

> 2015-05-31 22:57 GMT+02:00 Milos Rancic :
>
> > ... it would be good to talk a bit about the state of our community
> > and movement.
> >
> > Initially, I was quite positively surprised by the fact that this will
> > be the best WMF Board elections ever in the terms of turnout of
> > voters. It will beat 2007 elections and it will be likely 2.5 times
> > better than previous one.
> >
> > I would really like to know what's so different than in 2013. Also, if
> > this is the sign of the community health, how come that we are now
> > better than we were at the peak of our movement?
> >
>
> There's a fair chance the difference says far more about the amount of
> effort spent getting the word out about the election, than about how much
> the movement cares about it compared to previous elections.
>
> //Johan Jönsson
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Hong Kong diary

[attolippip]

yep. i strongly agree

'an understanding of some basic concepts and ideas' is really important, i
believe
but what-makes-wikiworld-go just doesn't seem to work within a 'formal'
organization
i wonder if a 'visible' hierarchy 'reverts' users into ordinary people...

ziko, thank you for sharing this!

best regards,
antanana


2013/8/20 Pavlo Shevelo 

> Hello Ziko,
>
> I like your diary very much and I just love your point regarding
> "fundamental
> lack of political education among the activists".
>
> Regards,
> Pavlo
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Ziko van Dijk  >wrote:
>
> > Dear friends of free knowledge,
> >
> > Over the past days I have been approached by many of you with kind
> remarks
> > on the experimental WCA year; actually, I am fine and looking forward to
> > finish some work discussed on in Hong Kong. (Let yourself be surprised.
> :-)
> > ) Thank you, and see you again soon in Wikimedia country.
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Ziko/Hong_Kong_diary
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Ziko
> >
> >
> >
> 
> > Dr. Ziko van Dijk
> > voorzitter / president Wikimedia Nederland
> >
> > Vereniging Wikimedia Nederland
> > Postbus 167
> > 3500 AD Utrecht
> > http://wikimedia.nl
> >
> >
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[Wikimedia-l] WMUA chapter mailing list switched to 'read-only' mode

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Dear all,

as a member of the board in question, i would like to explain more

But let's not pretend this is a question of a sudden need to set up a new
mailing list.  That's not what this is about (q) A.

yep. totally agree. this all is about searching for transparent and
convenient forms of communication
especially within the chapter. but it is really difficult, it seems :((
(if possible at all)
...and failing

we (as a community) were discussing:
- a new mailing list (with a public archive), for announcements - if it is
open, than looking for volunteers is easier, as one can offer help
even if (s)he is not a member of the organization
- to leave this mailing list (the one, that was 'switched to 'read-only'
mode' by the board's decision) for talking - there are some people that are
used to
solving problems by talking them[problems] out-of-their-wits with a fair
lot of letters (so to say)
- to use irc channel for those wishing to hear answers ASAP and without
being drown by e-letters (and publish these logs afterwards)

the need was not sudden, but it was too late expressed. it just irritates
people to get lots of letters
and it irritates them to hear something critical or unpleasant...
unfortunately, people TEND to act on their irritation
thus the above-mentioned Board decision was made...

(...) and we can assume the WMUA membership will judge their action as they
see fit (q) A.

and i do believe so

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