Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Domas Mituzas]

End of an era. It was a pleasure to work with JB and Stu. I'd like to echo
the amusement about them being "outsiders".
At the time when Stu was appointed, he was an editor and has been on the
foundation-l pulse for extended amount of time and was the only board
member interested in the technology/operational aspect of running whatever
we were running at the time.
Jan-Bart on the other hand bought his way in with the Kennisnet server
donation, which served as a base for our European domination. Well played
sir. :-)

Thanks for your service, you both. I doubt this Google-puppet board will
match your contributions any time soon.

Greetings from the dark side,
Domas

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:10 PM, Lodewijk 
wrote:

> While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.
>
> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and has
> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed on
> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>
> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the past
> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>
> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice thankyou
> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>
> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>
> Best,
>
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Subhashish Panigrahi]

Jan-Bart and Stu, thank you so much for your great contribution to the
movement!

Best,
Subha

On 1/9/2016 1:20 PM, Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive) wrote:
> All the best and Thanks you Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West.
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:
>
>> Goodness, yes.  Lodewijk, what a fitting thread.
>>
>> We spend more time reflecting on mistakes made, but JB and Stu were often
>> responsible for the things that were done well, and without fanfare.  They
>> could always be relied upon to consider the impact of decisions on the
>> movement and society, and not just on [the current version of] the
>> Foundation.
>>
>> Thank you both for the dedication and creativity you put into your work -
>> going above and beyond the requirements of being a trustee. Future trustees
>> of all stripes have some mighty large shoes to fill.
>>
>> Sam
>> On Jan 8, 2016 2:29 PM, "Katy Love"  wrote:
>>
>>> I've worked with Jan-Bart for three years,  and I too want to thank him
>> for
>>> his many years of service to the movement and the board, as well as to
>> the
>>> annual plan grant program and to the Funds Dissemination Committee!
>>>
>>> As one of the Board FDC representatives to the FDC for several years,
>>> Jan-Bart, you provided leadership and support to us as we developed,
>>> refined and evaluated the program. As others have said, it's clear how
>> much
>>> this movement means to you, and you've been a significant presence and
>>> supporter to many.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all you've given!
>>> Katy
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Florence Devouard 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you for this message Lodewijk !

 I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
 Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
 memory of ever regretting that decision ;)

 I wish you both the best !
 JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...

 Anthere

  Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :

 While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving
>>> the
> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu
>>> West
> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
>> think
> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
>> didn't
> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board
>>> with
> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
>>> place.
> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat),
>> and
> has
> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind
>>> the
> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
>> disagreed
> on
> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems.
>>> He
> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>
> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people
>> who
> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
>>> with
> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
> past
> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he
>> served
> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>
> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> thankyou
> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
>>> did,
> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
>>> like
> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy
>> and
> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may
>> even
> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun
>> with
>>> us
> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>
> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
>>> hope
> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>
> Best,
>
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Katy Love]

I've worked with Jan-Bart for three years,  and I too want to thank him for
his many years of service to the movement and the board, as well as to the
annual plan grant program and to the Funds Dissemination Committee!

As one of the Board FDC representatives to the FDC for several years,
Jan-Bart, you provided leadership and support to us as we developed,
refined and evaluated the program. As others have said, it's clear how much
this movement means to you, and you've been a significant presence and
supporter to many.

Thank you for all you've given!
Katy

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Florence Devouard 
wrote:

> Thank you for this message Lodewijk !
>
> I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
> Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
> memory of ever regretting that decision ;)
>
> I wish you both the best !
> JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...
>
> Anthere
>
>  Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :
>
> While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
>> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
>> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
>> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
>> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
>> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
>> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.
>>
>> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
>> has
>> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
>> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
>> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed
>> on
>> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
>> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
>> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>>
>> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
>> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
>> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
>> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
>> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
>> past
>> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
>> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>>
>> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
>> thankyou
>> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
>> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
>> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
>> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
>> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
>> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
>> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
>> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>>
>> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
>> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Samuel Klein]

Goodness, yes.  Lodewijk, what a fitting thread.

We spend more time reflecting on mistakes made, but JB and Stu were often
responsible for the things that were done well, and without fanfare.  They
could always be relied upon to consider the impact of decisions on the
movement and society, and not just on [the current version of] the
Foundation.

Thank you both for the dedication and creativity you put into your work -
going above and beyond the requirements of being a trustee. Future trustees
of all stripes have some mighty large shoes to fill.

Sam
On Jan 8, 2016 2:29 PM, "Katy Love"  wrote:

> I've worked with Jan-Bart for three years,  and I too want to thank him for
> his many years of service to the movement and the board, as well as to the
> annual plan grant program and to the Funds Dissemination Committee!
>
> As one of the Board FDC representatives to the FDC for several years,
> Jan-Bart, you provided leadership and support to us as we developed,
> refined and evaluated the program. As others have said, it's clear how much
> this movement means to you, and you've been a significant presence and
> supporter to many.
>
> Thank you for all you've given!
> Katy
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you for this message Lodewijk !
> >
> > I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
> > Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
> > memory of ever regretting that decision ;)
> >
> > I wish you both the best !
> > JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...
> >
> > Anthere
> >
> >  Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :
> >
> > While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> >> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving
> the
> >> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu
> West
> >> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
> >> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
> >> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board
> with
> >> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> place.
> >>
> >> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
> >> has
> >> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> >> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind
> the
> >> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed
> >> on
> >> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> >> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems.
> He
> >> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> >>
> >> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> >> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> >> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
> >> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
> with
> >> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
> >> past
> >> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
> >> the board in many positions, including as chair.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> >> thankyou
> >> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
> did,
> >> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
> like
> >> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
> >> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> >> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
> >> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with
> us
> >> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> >> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> >>
> >> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
> hope
> >> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Lodewijk
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> >>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Nurunnaby Chowdhury (Hasive)]

All the best and Thanks you Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West.

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 5:22 AM, Samuel Klein  wrote:

> Goodness, yes.  Lodewijk, what a fitting thread.
>
> We spend more time reflecting on mistakes made, but JB and Stu were often
> responsible for the things that were done well, and without fanfare.  They
> could always be relied upon to consider the impact of decisions on the
> movement and society, and not just on [the current version of] the
> Foundation.
>
> Thank you both for the dedication and creativity you put into your work -
> going above and beyond the requirements of being a trustee. Future trustees
> of all stripes have some mighty large shoes to fill.
>
> Sam
> On Jan 8, 2016 2:29 PM, "Katy Love"  wrote:
>
> > I've worked with Jan-Bart for three years,  and I too want to thank him
> for
> > his many years of service to the movement and the board, as well as to
> the
> > annual plan grant program and to the Funds Dissemination Committee!
> >
> > As one of the Board FDC representatives to the FDC for several years,
> > Jan-Bart, you provided leadership and support to us as we developed,
> > refined and evaluated the program. As others have said, it's clear how
> much
> > this movement means to you, and you've been a significant presence and
> > supporter to many.
> >
> > Thank you for all you've given!
> > Katy
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Florence Devouard 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for this message Lodewijk !
> > >
> > > I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
> > > Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
> > > memory of ever regretting that decision ;)
> > >
> > > I wish you both the best !
> > > JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...
> > >
> > > Anthere
> > >
> > >  Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :
> > >
> > > While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> > >> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving
> > the
> > >> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu
> > West
> > >> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> think
> > >> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> didn't
> > >> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board
> > with
> > >> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> > place.
> > >>
> > >> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat),
> and
> > >> has
> > >> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> > >> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind
> > the
> > >> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> disagreed
> > >> on
> > >> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > >> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems.
> > He
> > >> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > >>
> > >> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> > >> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> > >> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people
> who
> > >> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
> > with
> > >> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
> > >> past
> > >> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he
> served
> > >> the board in many positions, including as chair.
> > >>
> > >> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> > >> thankyou
> > >> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
> > did,
> > >> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
> > like
> > >> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy
> and
> > >> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> > >> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may
> even
> > >> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun
> with
> > us
> > >> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> > >> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> > >>
> > >> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
> > hope
> > >> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> > >>
> > >> Best,
> > >>
> > >> Lodewijk
> > >> ___
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Jan-Bart de Vreede]

Hi All,

It has been an honour, this movement and its goals is one of the greatest 
things in the world and I am glad to be a part of it. The diversity of opinion 
is enormous which sometimes makes things hard, but at the same time that is one 
of our biggest strengths. I am grateful to have had the opportunity to get to 
know so many of you and am sure that I will continue to contribute in some way 
and meet a lot of you again.

I have been mulling over a longer message with some more reflections over the 
past days but I think I need a couple more weeks to formulate that properly.

Here is hoping to see a lot of you at Wikimania! 

Thank you!

Jan-Bart


> On 07 Jan 2016, at 06:17, rupert THURNER  wrote:
> 
> thank you both. i enjoyed seeing jan-bart beeing the movements best man in
> many situations. and i appreciated money talks and croissant with stu, who
> was open to globalize the movement in a financial aspect while always
> paying attention that it does not become FIFA. some videos from sunny haifa
> and netherlands:
> * stu, mr decentralization: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULO0ppoxBs8=2951
> * jan-bart, mr 1 mio $$, and stu, mr 100 years:
> https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULO0ppoxBs8=3912
> * jan-bart, mr stroupwaffel: https://youtu.be/5C0aNWfwaaw?t=835
> * jan-bart, mr hiring sue gardner: https://youtu.be/eCrMJMh4gX0?t=25
> 
> best,
> rupert
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard 
> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you for this message Lodewijk !
>> 
>> I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
>> Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
>> memory of ever regretting that decision ;)
>> 
>> I wish you both the best !
>> JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...
>> 
>> Anthere
>> 
>> Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :
>> 
>> While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
>>> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
>>> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
>>> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
>>> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
>>> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
>>> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.
>>> 
>>> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
>>> has
>>> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
>>> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
>>> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed
>>> on
>>> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
>>> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
>>> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>>> 
>>> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
>>> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
>>> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
>>> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
>>> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
>>> past
>>> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
>>> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>>> 
>>> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
>>> thankyou
>>> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
>>> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
>>> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
>>> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
>>> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
>>> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
>>> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
>>> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>>> 
>>> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
>>> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Lodewijk
>>> ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Tanweer Morshed]

The contribution of Jan-Bart and Stu cannot be ignored.They have immensely
put effort for the movement, and were involved for a long time. Thank you
Jan-Bart and Stu for your commitment and contribution.


Regards,
Tanweer

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chris Keating 
wrote:

> I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have served
> the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many years
> and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
> pleasure to work with both of you.
>
> Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the future!
>
> On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF board I
> am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at board
> meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?
>
> Chris
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
> >
> > Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation
> over
> > these years.
> >
> > Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance
> of
> > the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been
> deeply
> > important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money
> entrusted
> > to us by donors.
> >
> > Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is difficult
> > to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I find
> > myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the
> board,
> > but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the board
> (this
> > time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving
> > the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu
> West
> > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
> > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
> > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board
> with
> > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> > place.
> > >
> > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
> > has
> > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind
> the
> > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> disagreed
> > on
> > > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems.
> He
> > > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > >
> > > Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> > > already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> > > education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
> > > went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
> > with
> > > his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
> > past
> > > years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he
> served
> > > the board in many positions, including as chair.
> > >
> > > I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> > thankyou
> > > coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
> > did,
> > > that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
> > like
> > > to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy
> and
> > > effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> > > appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may
> even
> > > have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with
> > us
> > > though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> > > mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> > >
> > > I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
> hope
> > > to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Theo10011]

A big Thank you from me too, to both these wonderful people. We've
certainly had our share of disagreements in other venues, but I've always
thought highly of both.

Stu is an excellent financial strategists, with an understanding for what
matters. His work with the audits and general business acumen were big
resources. I am grateful to have had our share our disagreements, it
afforded me the opportunity to know how knowledgeable Stu is and how
passionate he is about our goals. Thank you Stu.

I spent a few days around Jan-Bart, and he truly is a warm, wonderful
presence to be around - gregarious and funny, a true mensch. He was more
community oriented and supportive than any elected trustee I've known over
the years (Perhaps with the exception of Sj). A positive influence and a
voice of reason in any contentious discussion I've seen. Thank you
Jan-Bart.
Warm Regards
Theo

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Jan Bart, I am grateful for our trip to Brussels. You have done good.
>
> Stu you have done your thing and it is not mine. Thank you that I have
> never taken an interest.
> Thanks,
>  GerardM
>
> On 6 January 2016 at 10:44, Tanweer Morshed 
> wrote:
>
> > The contribution of Jan-Bart and Stu cannot be ignored.They have
> immensely
> > put effort for the movement, and were involved for a long time. Thank you
> > Jan-Bart and Stu for your commitment and contribution.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tanweer
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chris Keating <
> chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have
> > served
> > > the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many
> > years
> > > and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
> > > pleasure to work with both of you.
> > >
> > > Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the
> > future!
> > >
> > > On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF
> > board I
> > > am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at
> > board
> > > meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling <
> steven.wall...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
> > > >
> > > > Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation
> > > over
> > > > these years.
> > > >
> > > > Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial
> governance
> > > of
> > > > the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been
> > > deeply
> > > > important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money
> > > entrusted
> > > > to us by donors.
> > > >
> > > > Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is
> > difficult
> > > > to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I find
> > > > myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the
> > > board,
> > > > but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the board
> > > (this
> > > > time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk <
> lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > While we have long discussions on this list about board
> composition,
> > we
> > > > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are
> > leaving
> > > > the
> > > > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and
> Stu
> > > West
> > > > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> > think
> > > > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> > didn't
> > > > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the
> board
> > > with
> > > > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> > > > place.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat),
> > and
> > > > has
> > > > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe
> > he
> > > > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force
> behind
> > > the
> > > > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> > > disagreed
> > > > on
> > > > > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > > > > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than
> > problems.
> > > He
> > > > > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I
> recall
> > > > > already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> > > > > education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people
> > who
> > > > > went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised
> there
> > > > with
> > > > > his big smile. I can't remember 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Chris Keating]

I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have served
the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many years
and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
pleasure to work with both of you.

Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the future!

On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF board I
am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at board
meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?

Chris

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling 
wrote:

> Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
>
> Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation over
> these years.
>
> Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance of
> the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been deeply
> important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money entrusted
> to us by donors.
>
> Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is difficult
> to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I find
> myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the board,
> but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the board (this
> time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk 
> wrote:
>
> > While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving
> the
> > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
> > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
> > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
> > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
> > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> place.
> >
> > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
> has
> > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
> > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed
> on
> > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
> > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> >
> > Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> > already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> > education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
> > went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
> with
> > his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
> past
> > years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
> > the board in many positions, including as chair.
> >
> > I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> thankyou
> > coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
> did,
> > that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
> like
> > to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
> > effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> > appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
> > have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with
> us
> > though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> > mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> >
> > I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
> > to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Lodewijk
> > ___
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Jan Bart, I am grateful for our trip to Brussels. You have done good.

Stu you have done your thing and it is not mine. Thank you that I have
never taken an interest.
Thanks,
 GerardM

On 6 January 2016 at 10:44, Tanweer Morshed  wrote:

> The contribution of Jan-Bart and Stu cannot be ignored.They have immensely
> put effort for the movement, and were involved for a long time. Thank you
> Jan-Bart and Stu for your commitment and contribution.
>
>
> Regards,
> Tanweer
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chris Keating 
> wrote:
>
> > I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have
> served
> > the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many
> years
> > and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
> > pleasure to work with both of you.
> >
> > Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the
> future!
> >
> > On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF
> board I
> > am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at
> board
> > meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling  >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
> > >
> > > Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation
> > over
> > > these years.
> > >
> > > Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance
> > of
> > > the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been
> > deeply
> > > important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money
> > entrusted
> > > to us by donors.
> > >
> > > Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is
> difficult
> > > to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I find
> > > myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the
> > board,
> > > but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the board
> > (this
> > > time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > While we have long discussions on this list about board composition,
> we
> > > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are
> leaving
> > > the
> > > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu
> > West
> > > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> think
> > > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> didn't
> > > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board
> > with
> > > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in
> > > place.
> > > >
> > > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat),
> and
> > > has
> > > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe
> he
> > > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind
> > the
> > > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> > disagreed
> > > on
> > > > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > > > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than
> problems.
> > He
> > > > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > > >
> > > > Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> > > > already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> > > > education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people
> who
> > > > went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there
> > > with
> > > > his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in
> the
> > > past
> > > > years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he
> > served
> > > > the board in many positions, including as chair.
> > > >
> > > > I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
> > > thankyou
> > > > coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they
> > > did,
> > > > that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd
> > > like
> > > > to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy
> > and
> > > > effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> > > > appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may
> > even
> > > > have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun
> with
> > > us
> > > > though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> > > > mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
> > hope
> > > > to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Lodewijk
> > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Steven Walling]

Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.

Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation over
these years.

Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance of
the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been deeply
important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money entrusted
to us by donors.

Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is difficult
to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I find
myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the board,
but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the board (this
time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk 
wrote:

> While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.
>
> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and has
> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed on
> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>
> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the past
> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>
> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice thankyou
> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>
> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>
> Best,
>
> Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Tito Dutta]

All the best :) :)

On 6 January 2016 at 16:25, Theo10011  wrote:

> A big Thank you from me too, to both these wonderful people. We've
> certainly had our share of disagreements in other venues, but I've always
> thought highly of both.
>
> Stu is an excellent financial strategists, with an understanding for what
> matters. His work with the audits and general business acumen were big
> resources. I am grateful to have had our share our disagreements, it
> afforded me the opportunity to know how knowledgeable Stu is and how
> passionate he is about our goals. Thank you Stu.
>
> I spent a few days around Jan-Bart, and he truly is a warm, wonderful
> presence to be around - gregarious and funny, a true mensch. He was more
> community oriented and supportive than any elected trustee I've known over
> the years (Perhaps with the exception of Sj). A positive influence and a
> voice of reason in any contentious discussion I've seen. Thank you
> Jan-Bart.
> Warm Regards
> Theo
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Jan Bart, I am grateful for our trip to Brussels. You have done good.
> >
> > Stu you have done your thing and it is not mine. Thank you that I have
> > never taken an interest.
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > On 6 January 2016 at 10:44, Tanweer Morshed 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The contribution of Jan-Bart and Stu cannot be ignored.They have
> > immensely
> > > put effort for the movement, and were involved for a long time. Thank
> you
> > > Jan-Bart and Stu for your commitment and contribution.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tanweer
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chris Keating <
> > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have
> > > served
> > > > the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many
> > > years
> > > > and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
> > > > pleasure to work with both of you.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the
> > > future!
> > > >
> > > > On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF
> > > board I
> > > > am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at
> > > board
> > > > meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling <
> > steven.wall...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your
> participation
> > > > over
> > > > > these years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial
> > governance
> > > > of
> > > > > the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have
> been
> > > > deeply
> > > > > important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money
> > > > entrusted
> > > > > to us by donors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is
> > > difficult
> > > > > to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I
> find
> > > > > myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the
> > > > board,
> > > > > but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the
> board
> > > > (this
> > > > > time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk <
> > lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > While we have long discussions on this list about board
> > composition,
> > > we
> > > > > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are
> > > leaving
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and
> > Stu
> > > > West
> > > > > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> > > think
> > > > > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> > > didn't
> > > > > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the
> > board
> > > > with
> > > > > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem
> in
> > > > > place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis'
> seat),
> > > and
> > > > > has
> > > > > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I
> believe
> > > he
> > > > > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force
> > behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> > > > disagreed
> > > > > on
> > > > > > affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
> > > > > > constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than
> > > problems.
> > > > He
> > > > > > served both as treasurer and vice chair.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Michael Maggs]

I'd like to add my word of thanks from Wikimedia UK, as well.  Both 
Jan-Bart and Stu as long-standing and experienced trustees have been 
notably welcoming, friendly and open, and both have been extremely 
helpful in maintaining good WMF board / chapter board relations.  I know 
I can speak for others at Wikimedia UK as well, who have had excellent 
relations with them over the years.


It has been a pleasure to work with you both, and I and my colleagues 
wish you all the best for the future.


Best regards


Michael


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Lodewijk wrote:

While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.

Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and has
been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed on
affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
served both as treasurer and vice chair.

Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the past
years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
the board in many positions, including as chair.

I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice thankyou
coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.

I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
to see you around in our movement in many different ways.

Best,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Sydney Poore]

I also want to thank Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West for their work as
Trustees. I had the pleasure of working with both of them and know
them to be committed to the wikimedia mission.

I hope you all stay engaged.
Warm regards,
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Cristian Consonni
 wrote:
> 2016-01-06 8:10 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk :
>> [...] But in the mean time, I'd like
>> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
>> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
>> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
>> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
>> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
>> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>>
>> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
>> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>
> Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all your contributions to the movement
> over many years.
>
> Cristian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Anna Stillwell]

Thank you both for your service.
Warmly,
/a

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Sydney Poore  wrote:

> I also want to thank Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West for their work as
> Trustees. I had the pleasure of working with both of them and know
> them to be committed to the wikimedia mission.
>
> I hope you all stay engaged.
> Warm regards,
> Sydney Poore
> Sydney Poore
> User:FloNight
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> at Cochrane Collaboration
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Cristian Consonni
>  wrote:
> > 2016-01-06 8:10 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk :
> >> [...] But in the mean time, I'd like
> >> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
> >> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> >> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
> >> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with
> us
> >> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> >> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
> >>
> >> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
> hope
> >> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
> >
> > Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all your contributions to the movement
> > over many years.
> >
> > Cristian
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Amy Vossbrinck]

Yes and a very big thank you to Stu for all of his work on the Audit
Committee!!

Take care, Amy

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:52 AM, Katie Chan  wrote:

> Thank you both. Hope to continue to see you around. :)
>
> KTC
>
> On 06/01/2016 16:11, Anna Stillwell wrote:
>
>> Thank you both for your service.
>> Warmly,
>> /a
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Sydney Poore 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I also want to thank Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West for their work as
>>> Trustees. I had the pleasure of working with both of them and know
>>> them to be committed to the wikimedia mission.
>>>
>>> I hope you all stay engaged.
>>> Warm regards,
>>> Sydney Poore
>>> Sydney Poore
>>> User:FloNight
>>> Wikipedian in Residence
>>> at Cochrane Collaboration
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Cristian Consonni
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 2016-01-06 8:10 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk :

> [...] But in the mean time, I'd like
> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy
> and
> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may
> even
> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with
>
 us
>>>
 though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>
> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I
>
 hope
>>>
 to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>

 Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all your contributions to the movement
 over many years.

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Philippe Beaudette]

I consider myself honored to think of both Jan-Bart and Stu as friends.
They are both exceptional people, who steered the WMF through a serious
period of growth and rarely, if ever, put a foot wrong in so doing.  My
hat's off to both of you.

Best,
pb

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 2:55 AM, Theo10011  wrote:

> A big Thank you from me too, to both these wonderful people. We've
> certainly had our share of disagreements in other venues, but I've always
> thought highly of both.
>
> Stu is an excellent financial strategists, with an understanding for what
> matters. His work with the audits and general business acumen were big
> resources. I am grateful to have had our share our disagreements, it
> afforded me the opportunity to know how knowledgeable Stu is and how
> passionate he is about our goals. Thank you Stu.
>
> I spent a few days around Jan-Bart, and he truly is a warm, wonderful
> presence to be around - gregarious and funny, a true mensch. He was more
> community oriented and supportive than any elected trustee I've known over
> the years (Perhaps with the exception of Sj). A positive influence and a
> voice of reason in any contentious discussion I've seen. Thank you
> Jan-Bart.
> Warm Regards
> Theo
>
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Gerard Meijssen  >
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Jan Bart, I am grateful for our trip to Brussels. You have done good.
> >
> > Stu you have done your thing and it is not mine. Thank you that I have
> > never taken an interest.
> > Thanks,
> >  GerardM
> >
> > On 6 January 2016 at 10:44, Tanweer Morshed 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The contribution of Jan-Bart and Stu cannot be ignored.They have
> > immensely
> > > put effort for the movement, and were involved for a long time. Thank
> you
> > > Jan-Bart and Stu for your commitment and contribution.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tanweer
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Chris Keating <
> > chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just wanted to add my thanks as well as both Jan-Bart and Stu have
> > > served
> > > > the movement with a huge amount of dedication and commitment for many
> > > years
> > > > and helped steer the WMF through many challenges. It has been a real
> > > > pleasure to work with both of you.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you both for everything you have done and best wishes for the
> > > future!
> > > >
> > > > On a more practical note as there is now no Dutch person on the WMF
> > > board I
> > > > am concerned that there is now no obvious supplier of stroopwafel at
> > > board
> > > > meetings - has a proper impact assessment been conducted?
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Steven Walling <
> > steven.wall...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your
> participation
> > > > over
> > > > > these years.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial
> > governance
> > > > of
> > > > > the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have
> been
> > > > deeply
> > > > > important to making sure Wikimedia is a good steward of the money
> > > > entrusted
> > > > > to us by donors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jan-Bart, my friend, you are a force to be reckoned with. It is
> > > difficult
> > > > > to sum up the total impact of your leadership in the movement. I
> find
> > > > > myself falling back on memories not just of your formal role on the
> > > > board,
> > > > > but of your warmth and generosity of spirit. I hope leaving the
> board
> > > > (this
> > > > > time) doesn't mean your Wikimania streak will be broken. ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 11:11 PM Lodewijk <
> > lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > While we have long discussions on this list about board
> > composition,
> > > we
> > > > > > seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are
> > > leaving
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and
> > Stu
> > > > West
> > > > > > have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I
> > > think
> > > > > > there are not many people who can recall the days that the board
> > > didn't
> > > > > > have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the
> > board
> > > > with
> > > > > > them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem
> in
> > > > > place.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis'
> seat),
> > > and
> > > > > has
> > > > > > been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I
> believe
> > > he
> > > > > > chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force
> > behind
> > > > the
> > > > > > accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly
> > > > disagreed
> > > > > on
> > > > > > 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Katie Chan]

Thank you both. Hope to continue to see you around. :)

KTC

On 06/01/2016 16:11, Anna Stillwell wrote:

Thank you both for your service.
Warmly,
/a

On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Sydney Poore  wrote:


I also want to thank Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West for their work as
Trustees. I had the pleasure of working with both of them and know
them to be committed to the wikimedia mission.

I hope you all stay engaged.
Warm regards,
Sydney Poore
Sydney Poore
User:FloNight
Wikipedian in Residence
at Cochrane Collaboration


On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Cristian Consonni
 wrote:

2016-01-06 8:10 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk :

[...] But in the mean time, I'd like
to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with

us

though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.

I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I

hope

to see you around in our movement in many different ways.


Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all your contributions to the movement
over many years.

Cristian

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[Florence Devouard]

Thank you for this message Lodewijk !

I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and 
Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no 
memory of ever regretting that decision ;)


I wish you both the best !
JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...

Anthere

 Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :

While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.

Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and has
been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed on
affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
served both as treasurer and vice chair.

Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the past
years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
the board in many positions, including as chair.

I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice thankyou
coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.

I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
to see you around in our movement in many different ways.

Best,

Lodewijk
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

[rupert THURNER]

thank you both. i enjoyed seeing jan-bart beeing the movements best man in
many situations. and i appreciated money talks and croissant with stu, who
was open to globalize the movement in a financial aspect while always
paying attention that it does not become FIFA. some videos from sunny haifa
and netherlands:
* stu, mr decentralization: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULO0ppoxBs8=2951
* jan-bart, mr 1 mio $$, and stu, mr 100 years:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULO0ppoxBs8=3912
* jan-bart, mr stroupwaffel: https://youtu.be/5C0aNWfwaaw?t=835
* jan-bart, mr hiring sue gardner: https://youtu.be/eCrMJMh4gX0?t=25

best,
rupert


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:12 AM, Florence Devouard 
wrote:

> Thank you for this message Lodewijk !
>
> I would like to join the messages already posted to thank both Stu and
> Jan-Bart. I was on the board when we ask them to join us and I have no
> memory of ever regretting that decision ;)
>
> I wish you both the best !
> JB, can we expect to see you in Italy next summer ? I sure hope so...
>
> Anthere
>
>  Le 06/01/16 08:10, Lodewijk a écrit :
>
> While we have long discussions on this list about board composition, we
>> seem to almost ignore the fact that two long time veterans are leaving the
>> Wikimedia Foundation board, as scheduled. Jan-Bart de Vreede and Stu West
>> have been around longer than many regular editors nowadays, and I think
>> there are not many people who can recall the days that the board didn't
>> have them on it. I have never had the pleasure to serve on the board with
>> them, but a little thank-you from our community side, would seem in place.
>>
>> Stu joined the board already in 2008 (filling Michael Davis' seat), and
>> has
>> been a solid power on the board's audit responsibilities (I believe he
>> chaired the audit committee for quite a while) and was a force behind the
>> accountability of movement affiliates. While we often strongly disagreed
>> on
>> affiliate issues, I appreciate the fact that he always remained
>> constructive and wanted to think about solutions rather than problems. He
>> served both as treasurer and vice chair.
>>
>> Jan-Bart was on the board even longer, since early 2007, and I recall
>> already working with him through Kennisnet (a Dutch foundation for
>> education and IT) before that. Jan-Bart is one of those rare people who
>> went to ALL wikimania conferences, and can be easily recognised there with
>> his big smile. I can't remember a theme Jan-Bart didn't work on in the
>> past
>> years (Affiliates, HR, searching a new Executive Director) and he served
>> the board in many positions, including as chair.
>>
>> I'm sure that the WMF communications staff and/or board has a nice
>> thankyou
>> coming up - with a more accurate description of the awesome work they did,
>> that I now made up from the top of my head. But in the mean time, I'd like
>> to do it myself: Thank you Jan-Bart and Stu for all the time, energy and
>> effort that you poured into our movement. I know that not all of us
>> appreciate this as much as we perhaps should, and sometimes you may even
>> have perceived us as hostile. I do sincerely hope that you had fun with us
>> though, and I'm confident that you made a big dent in our impossible
>> mission of sharing the sum of all knowledge with everyone.
>>
>> I hope to meet you again soon, at least in Italy at Wikimania, and I hope
>> to see you around in our movement in many different ways.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Lodewijk
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